Subject: Rev Wm Martin etc excellent link http://gaz.jrshelby.com/rocky-cr-settlement.htm John W. Sproull, Thomas Sproull, David Burt Willson, James McLeod Willson, The Reformed Presbyterian and Covenanter, 1876 Myers, Shinkle [etc.], p.172-173 Rev. William Richardson, of Waxhaw, was the only minister within a hundred miles. They "applied to him to supply them with preaching; he consented, and directed them to build a church, as he would preach for them on week days. The first preaching day was on Monday; he named the church (which they had built according to his directions) Catholic. It is situated fifteen miles south-east from Chester Court House, near the Rocky Mount road.* Rev. William Martin emigrated from Ireland at least-as early as 1772; he was the first covenanting preacher in the settlement. I have in my possession, from Henry and Margaret Malcolm, a letter written to their son-in-law John Lin, in which they refer to Mr. Martin as being over here in this Rocky Creek settlement. This letter is dated May 30th, 1773, County Antrim, Ireland, in answer to one from his son-in-law, John Lin. The reference to Mr. Martin is in these words: " We hear it reported here that Mr. Martin and his Covenanters had ill getting their land, and John Cochrane had the occasion of all their trouble." I suppose that this trouble about laud was, that they expected to settle all down close together in a colony ; but such was then the situation of the country that they had to scatter and select lands at a considerable distance from each other. They were entitled to bounty lands, a hundred acres to each head of a family, and fifty to each member. Those who had means bought from the old settlers. Rev. William Martin bought from William Stroud a plantation one mile square, six hundred and ibny acres, on the north side of Big Rocky Creek, on which he built a rock house and a rock spring bouse. The place selected for a church was two miles east of Catholic on the Rocky Mount road, near the house now occupied by Mrs. James Barber Ferguson. It is described as having been a log building; was burnt down by the British in 178O.** After Martin was released by Coruwallis at Winnsboro, owing to the disturbed state of the country, he went to Mecklenburg, N. C. ... After the war, when Mr. Martin returned to Rocky Creek, he was employed as supply at Catholic for three years. He was dismissed by the people of Catholic on account of becoming intemperate. He however, did not quit preaching. He preached at a school house at Edward McDaniel's, about a mile or two west of the place, at which a brick church, was afterwards built. He also went down to Jackson's creek in Fairfield, and preached there. I recollect that Richard Gladney was a Covenanter in that neighborhood, and doubtless there were others. He was also in the habit of crossing the Catawba river and preaching at the house of William Hicklin, who had moved from Rocky Creek to Lancaster. He frequently preached at other places, often at private houses. A congregation afterwards built him a church two miles east from the site of the one formerly burnt down near the Rocky Mount road, on a beautiful hill, in rear of what was called Earle's House, in a fine grove of trees. The lands are now all cleared up, and there is a negro house now on top of that hill, where the church once stood. =================================================

I did a little research on this and, briefly, here is what I found. Covenanter's = Scottish predecessor of the Presbyterian's Huguenots = (aka French, History also reveals them in Scotland and later in Ireland) They are the Protestants Anglican = Church of England also known as Catholic & Reformed I do know that my Gaston's...two of which were with Rev. Martin were from Antrim Ireland and were of Huguenot descent and Protestants. AND it is documented that these same Protestants often interrupted the meetings of the Anglicans because of their dislike for them...bringing in baying hounds and the like. I'd have to locate it but there is a letter written by an Anglican minister to the leaders of the Church of England complaining of such an happening. His words were that it would have done him no good to complain to officials of the area since they were Protestants too. Joyce Gaston Reece, Secretary Friends of the Archives Historical & Preservation Society Monroe County, TN www.rootsweb.com/~tnfahps ----- Original Message ----- From: <eytvwt@ftc-i.net> To: <scchest2@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:08 AM Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek > Subject: Rev Wm Martin etc > > > excellent link http://gaz.jrshelby.com/rocky-cr-settlement.htm > > John W. Sproull, Thomas Sproull, David Burt Willson, James McLeod Willson, > The Reformed Presbyterian and Covenanter, 1876 Myers, Shinkle [etc.], > p.172-173 > Rev. William Richardson, of Waxhaw, was the only minister within a hundred > miles. They "applied to him to supply them with preaching; he consented, > and > directed them to build a church, as he would preach for them on week days. > The first preaching day was on Monday; he named the church (which they had > built according to his directions) Catholic. It is situated fifteen miles > south-east from Chester Court House, near the Rocky Mount road.* > Rev. William Martin emigrated from Ireland at least-as early as 1772; he > was > the first covenanting preacher in the settlement. I have in my possession, > from Henry and Margaret Malcolm, a letter written to their son-in-law John > Lin, in which they refer to Mr. Martin as being over here in this Rocky > Creek settlement. This letter is dated May 30th, 1773, County Antrim, > Ireland, in answer to one from his son-in-law, John Lin. The reference to > Mr. Martin is in these words: " We hear it reported here that Mr. Martin > and > his Covenanters had ill getting their land, and John Cochrane had the > occasion of all their trouble." I suppose that this trouble about laud > was, > that they expected to settle all down close together in a colony ; but > such > was then the situation of the country that they had to scatter and select > lands at a considerable distance from each other. They were entitled to > bounty lands, a hundred acres to each head of a family, and fifty to each > member. Those who had means bought from the old settlers. Rev. William > Martin bought from William Stroud a plantation one mile square, six > hundred > and ibny acres, on the north side of Big Rocky Creek, on which he built a > rock house and a rock spring bouse. The place selected for a church was > two > miles east of Catholic on the Rocky Mount road, near the house now > occupied > by Mrs. James Barber Ferguson. It is described as having been a log > building; was burnt down by the British in 178O.** After Martin was > released > by Coruwallis at Winnsboro, owing to the disturbed state of the country, > he > went to Mecklenburg, N. C. > ... > After the war, when Mr. Martin returned to Rocky Creek, he was employed as > supply at Catholic for three years. He was dismissed by the people of > Catholic on account of becoming intemperate. He however, did not quit > preaching. He preached at a school house at Edward McDaniel's, about a > mile > or two west of the place, at which a brick church, was afterwards built. > He > also went down to Jackson's creek in Fairfield, and preached there. I > recollect that Richard Gladney was a Covenanter in that neighborhood, and > doubtless there were others. He was also in the habit of crossing the > Catawba river and preaching at the house of William Hicklin, who had moved > from Rocky Creek to Lancaster. He frequently preached at other places, > often > at private houses. A congregation afterwards built him a church two miles > east from the site of the one formerly burnt down near the Rocky Mount > road, > on a beautiful hill, in rear of what was called Earle's House, in a fine > grove of trees. The lands are now all cleared up, and there is a negro > house > now on top of that hill, where the church once stood. > ================================================= > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.19/2099 - Release Date: 05/05/09 13:07:00

John Linn ?????? Is he living? Can we ask him!????? " that Richard Gladney was a Covenanter in that neighborhood.." There you go with the Gladney family... Presbyterianism was brought by Scottish plantation settlers to Ulster who had been strongly encouraged to emigrate by James VI of Scotland, later James I of England. An estimated 100,000 Scottish Presbyterians moved to the northern counties of Ireland between 1607 and the Battle of the Boyne in 1690. The Presbytery of Ulster was formed in 1642 separately from the established Anglican Church. Presbyterians, along with Roman Catholics in Ulster and the rest of Ireland... the first modern implementation of Presbyterianism was by the Geneva church under the leadership of John Calvin <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Calvin> in 1541. Joyce G. Reece wrote: > I did a little research on this and, briefly, here is what I found. > > Covenanter's = Scottish predecessor of the Presbyterian's > > Huguenots = (aka French, History also reveals them in Scotland and later in > Ireland) They are the Protestants > > Anglican = Church of England also known as Catholic & Reformed > > > I do know that my Gaston's...two of which were with Rev. Martin were > from Antrim Ireland and were of Huguenot descent and Protestants. AND it is > documented that these same Protestants often interrupted the meetings of the > Anglicans because of their dislike for them...bringing in baying hounds and > the like. I'd have to locate it but there is a letter written by an > Anglican minister to the leaders of the Church of England complaining of > such an happening. His words were that it would have done him no good to > complain to officials of the area since they were Protestants too. > > > Joyce Gaston Reece, Secretary > Friends of the Archives Historical & Preservation Society > Monroe County, TN > www.rootsweb.com/~tnfahps > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <eytvwt@ftc-i.net> > To: <scchest2@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 06, 2009 9:08 AM > Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Rev. William Martin's church on Rocky Creek > > > >> Subject: Rev Wm Martin etc >> >> >> excellent link http://gaz.jrshelby.com/rocky-cr-settlement.htm >> >> John W. Sproull, Thomas Sproull, David Burt Willson, James McLeod Willson, >> The Reformed Presbyterian and Covenanter, 1876 Myers, Shinkle [etc.], >> p.172-173 >> Rev. William Richardson, of Waxhaw, was the only minister within a hundred >> miles. They "applied to him to supply them with preaching; he consented, >> and >> directed them to build a church, as he would preach for them on week days. >> The first preaching day was on Monday; he named the church (which they had >> built according to his directions) Catholic. It is situated fifteen miles >> south-east from Chester Court House, near the Rocky Mount road.* >> Rev. William Martin emigrated from Ireland at least-as early as 1772; he >> was >> the first covenanting preacher in the settlement. *I have in my possession, >> from Henry and Margaret Malcolm, a letter written to their son-in-law John >> Lin,* in which they refer to Mr. Martin as being over here in this Rocky >> Creek settlement. This letter is dated May 30th, 1773, County Antrim, >> Ireland, in answer to one from his son-in-law, John Lin. The reference to >> Mr. Martin is in these words: " We hear it reported here that Mr. Martin >> and >> his Covenanters had ill getting their land, and John Cochrane had the >> occasion of all their trouble." I suppose that this trouble about laud >> was, >> that they expected to settle all down close together in a colony ; but >> such >> was then the situation of the country that they had to scatter and select >> lands at a considerable distance from each other. They were entitled to >> bounty lands, a hundred acres to each head of a family, and fifty to each >> member. Those who had means bought from the old settlers. Rev. William >> Martin bought from William Stroud a plantation one mile square, six >> hundred >> and ibny acres, on the north side of Big Rocky Creek, on which he built a >> rock house and a rock spring bouse. The place selected for a church was >> two >> miles east of Catholic on the Rocky Mount road, near the house now >> occupied >> by Mrs. James Barber Ferguson. It is described as having been a log >> building; was burnt down by the British in 178O.** After Martin was >> released >> by Coruwallis at Winnsboro, owing to the disturbed state of the country, >> he >> went to Mecklenburg, N. C. >> ... >> After the war, when Mr. Martin returned to Rocky Creek, he was employed as >> supply at Catholic for three years. He was dismissed by the people of >> Catholic on account of becoming intemperate. He however, did not quit >> preaching. He preached at a school house at Edward McDaniel's, about a >> mile >> or two west of the place, at which a brick church, was afterwards built. >> He >> also went down to Jackson's creek in Fairfield, and preached there. I >> recollect that Richard Gladney was a Covenanter in that neighborhood, and >> doubtless there were others. He was also in the habit of crossing the >> Catawba river and preaching at the house of William Hicklin, who had moved >> from Rocky Creek to Lancaster. He frequently preached at other places, >> often >> at private houses. A congregation afterwards built him a church two miles >> east from the site of the one formerly burnt down near the Rocky Mount >> road, >> on a beautiful hill, in rear of what was called Earle's House, in a fine >> grove of trees. The lands are now all cleared up, and there is a negro >> house >> now on top of that hill, where the church once stood. >> ================================================= >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.19/2099 - Release Date: 05/05/09 > 13:07:00 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > --- > Antivirus: Inbound message clean. > Database (VPS): 090502-0, 05/02/2009 Tested on: 5/6/2009 11:35:04 AM > (c) 1988-2009 ALWIL Software. > http://www.avast.com > > > > > --- Antivirus: Outbound message clean. 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