I have the genealogy of Martha Green Johnson who married John (IV) Knox on June 5, 1845 in Chester County. I am researching the Johnson family of Chester County. Martha and John (IV) Knox have decendents today, Robert "Bob" Shannon, living today in Chester, S.C. Peggy Carey Dumas, Arkansas ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phyllis Raker" <phylraker@cinci.rr.com> To: <gc-gateway@rootsweb.com>; <scchest2@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2009 8:03 PM Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Knoxes in Chester County SC >I have KNOX research coming from Chester Co., SC > > What are your names, dates?? > > I have loose ends from there that I'd really like to tie together. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: rhondas42 Surnames: Knox Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/4086/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Can anyone help me to confirm information on a Knox born in Chester County mentioned in the Knox geneology by Lorene Peterson? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

I have KNOX research coming from Chester Co., SC What are your names, dates?? I have loose ends from there that I'd really like to tie together.

Hi List: I am researching the Thomas Cobean Family, of Chester Co, SC. I believe this family moved to the Chester SC area, from the Gettysburg area of Pa, ca 1790, or possibly, somewhat sooner. I would appreciate receiving any info possible info on this family, including Census', starting in 1800, and succeeding descendents. I would be pleased to communicate with others researching the Cobean Family, as I have extensive data, going back to the early 1700's, in Tyrone, Ireland. Kindest Regards Jim White Naples, Florida

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AdamWylieKin Surnames: Miller White Brown Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/580.1449.1.2.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: As to the last two posts here 51 and 52, I try to respond respectfully while continuing to proselytise on my concerns of premature conclusions becoming the rule in genealogy, rather than a rare exception. You have indeed spent productive time with Andrea's records. Would that we had scans of all the originals which were the source of his Miller research. If as you say, Andrea says, Elizabeth Miller passed land to Charles Miller, get the deed (or other proof such as a deed out by Charles reciting the source of his title) and then run the legal back to see if it is land owned by a Josiah Miller or the like, if the deed does not disclose this. Such a deed almost certainly should be there. Otherwise suppositions such as the one you made on only one Elizabeth Miller at that time, will often lead to the wrong side of a cliff situated at a forbidding height with nothing immediately below. I descend from an Elizabeth, different maiden name than Hindman but Hindman is not mentioned in your reference, Miller in the general area, who was born 1738 and died in York District in 1826. Widows often lived with families and were sometimes declared and enumerated as head of the household from 1790 to 1840, where the family was that of her children and sometimes not, where the eldest son had claimed control or been given it, or the widow was! living with her own blood-related siblings or their descendants who were findable only under her maiden name or some other surname, being that of a sister or cousin. So only a deed is strong enough to establish likelihood as to this set of facts, or some other clear unequivocal, mainly unambiguous connecting document, even for an area still growing such as Chester. Miller is a most common name and in 1790 though there were only five of that name spelling or variant in Chester (and York and other surrounding counties must sometimes be considered), they were ones including a Charles Miller whose wife could have been Elizabeth Miller and a widow by the end of the year 1790 or near the end of a decade as well as a Robert Miller, William Miller and Robert Millar each like Charles with minor sons, and each more than able to be married to a soon-to-be widow Elizabeth, either a mother of the children of step-mother to all of them. None of these Millers need to be related (just check the origin of the name throughout the English speaking world to realize how it is one of the most common names in America even now, many of whom came to America as! a Mueller or Muller), but we do know to suspect that the Elizabeth might well be Elizabeth Hindman/Hyndman Miller, widow of Josiah (and might not be as well!!). Thus the real estate transaction you relate to happening can be tracked readily (hopefully), and the land can be traced back to a root of title from the sovereign, or the USA, with a bit more difficulty. If that root of title has someone with a name anything like Josiah than you have a strong start, exactly Josiah and you could win under most any standard of proof. Since I have claimed the five 1790 Chester enumerated Miller/Millar families could well all be truly unrelated, clearly I have stronger views on the Chester County/District Millens (who if consistently Millens are more likely to be related to McMillens then Millers) and the Millings vis-a-vis Chester Millers. Ironically your message was seen by me after I started this morning posting another attempt to draw rational conclusions rather than speculation stated as certainty from the membership (and from their interpretation of postings on the www and worse yet in print, or on disk, which some take as documentation by its very existence) at my private MyFamily sites, adding this as the title to the post as well as a new explicit category for all to ponder: "Explanation of limit(ations)s of conclusions from documented name appearance" with the context here being NARA Revolutionary War rosters. You need the name of a spouse which can be close to conclusive if it is a full name, or the chain of title or ... to fairly attach your ancestry to any family, much less a family such names with current frequency likely to occur in frontier America such as 1) SMITH 1.006%; 2) JOHNSON 0.810%; 3) WILLIAMS 0.699%; 4) JONES 0.621%; 5) BROWN 0.621%; 6)DAVIS 0.480%; 7) MILLER 0.424%; 8) WILSON 0.339%; 9 MOORE 0.312%; 10) TAYLOR 0.311%; 11) ANDERSON .311%; 12) THOMAS 0.311%; 13) JACKSON 0.310%; 14) WHITE 0.279%; 15) HARRIS 0.275%; 16) MARTIN 0.273%; 17)THOMPSON 0.269%; [OMITTED] GARCIA 0.254%; [OMITTED] MARTINEZ 0.234%; 18) ROBINSON 0.233%; 19) CLARK 0.231%; 20)LEWIS 0.226%; [taken from http://www.census.gov/genealogy/names/dist.all.last] might well be present repeatedly but whether it is by coincidence is much more uncertain then when a county such as Chester and the one next to it York begin filling up with Wylies who make it these days at #2905 WYLIE and only 0.004%. And as a final attempt to dissuade any conclusions that there was only one Elizabeth Miller (one more Miller family might have arrived in 1792 is another way) is the fact that I descend from Samuel Neely of the area who is not the Samuel Neely of the area, Oliver Wallace who is not the Oliver Wallace of the area (in fact there may have been three or maybe four in the general areas of the same general age) but fortunately also from William Ratchford, for whom there are several appearances in America but only one in South Carolina or even the Carolinas. But even with the uncommon name Wylie, particularly with William or James or ..., Sarah or Elizabeth or ..., does one stop and say "must be mine" when there is more to be done in the record searching (and not even when there is no more to be done there, for there is always DNA and there is always the right path and to admit more must be found before anything can be said with sufficient certainty). Oh yes and one more thing: William White is the only son of Ann Garner White and not the spouse of this lady as you wrote it---the spouse was John White. I have a private and free MyFamily site for William White descendants and spouses (really for all John and Ann Garner White descendants who would be welcome as well) to allow them to find out, among other things, who really was their secondary matriarch, the spouse of William White who had the classic name of Jane Brown and would be thought to have been untraceable prior to review of many of the facts that point to one conclusion for her parentage, making her my esteemed presumptively blood-related (DNA results possibly later contradicting) great great great grand aunt (she is one of the remarkable Elizabeth Ellet's "Women of the Revolution" as Jane White of Chester area). Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. 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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ub4meib4u Surnames: Miller, McAlilley, McLilly, Hindman, Hyndman, Millen, Millin, Milling, Carter, Johnson, Johnston, Murphy Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/580.1449.1.2.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Andrea did not prove that James Miller married Margaret McAlliley/McLilly, but James McAlliley was witness and/or executor for many members of that family. This implies a family relation, but of course needs further research. Josiah/Josias Miller lands - yes, I have obtained all known copies of the land grant records of Josias/Josiah Miller from SC Archives: 1st grant 1755 on Little Creek of Craven Co - Andrea says this is Fairfield Co. He gets 150 ac - has wife and 1 child. Per immigration records of 1753, this is Elizabeth and John Frederick. 2nd grant 1773 - 400 acres on Rocky Creek in Camden, which is in present day Chester Co. 400 acres is for wife and 5 kids. Tracking the geographical references, confirms that this is the same land Elizabeth was on, later Robt got some and other kids as well. Note that his plat is found under "Jonah Miller", but an exam of the actual documnt shows the name is Josiah Miller, so clerk made the error. Robert Hindman states "in papers" that he is the brother of Elizabeth Miller, wife of Josias Miller deceased, per Andrea research. Andrea does not state in which papers he found this, but does say the Hindmans lived in Fairfield on Little River - note this is the same location where Josias took 150 ac in 1755, again strong indication that it is the same Josias as in Chester in 1773. Charles Miller - Andrea says that Charles "received lands from his mother Elizabeth Miller". I have yet to find this paper, but I have looked at several documents in Chester and do believe there was only 1 Elizabeth Miller in Chester in the late 1700's. There were 2 Charles Millers [b~1754 and ~1757], so I have yet to determine which Charles is being referred to above. A death in late 1790's for Elizabeth is most likely as her kids are making various land deeds in late 1798 and 1799, implying she has passed. Also, she is in 1790 census, but in 1800 is not. One record shows her deeding her household goods to her daughter Jennet Knox, which suggests she will be soon living with her daughter. I have not explored 1800 census for Jennet Knox to see if Elizabeth could be living with her. Evidence points to death of Elizabeth around 1798-1799. Millen/Milling - I found both spellings in the same document, but Millen is the most common. It appears to be a separate family and not a misspelling of Miller. However Wm Millen/Millin/Milling is found as co-witness with Charles Miller in several documents and in one census they are next door to each other. In Will of Jacob CArter, both men are found and Wm Millen is said to be married to dau Hannah Carter. I have thought they were in-laws. This would be the older Charles Miller in Chester, and not the one living in Rocky Creek/Bull Run area. Per court records and my own research, I have confirmed that Charles C. Miller of Bull Run was a carpenter and the older Charles Miller was a weaver. Both went by Charles Miller, Sr. adding to the confusion. It is Charles the weaver who lives next to and associates with the Millen family. His wife was Ann Carter or Murphy and he died without named children about 1825 in Chester. Goods were willed to Murphy family. Charles the carpenter moved to Henry Co, GA about 1822. His Will there names his 9 children and 2nd wife Nancy. Anyone desiring more info on this Charles of Henry, GA can contact me. His kids were: Wm Elizabeth [m Johnson/Johnston] Charles Robert Nancy [m Andrew Swann] John McBride Miller Sarah [m Carter in GA] James and Henry twins Most of this family moved to Coosa, AL around 1850. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ub4meib4u Surnames: White, Miller, Hindman, Hyndman, Garner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/580.1449.1.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I have not explored the White family too much, but I know Robert Miller b1760 married Jennet White b1765 in 1786. Both were born in Ireland. Her parents were Wm White and Ann Garner. His parents were Josias Miller and Elizabeth Hyndman/Hindman That's about all I really know except that the Whites moved to Chester, SC. I have following children for Wm and Ann White: Wm Margaret Eleanor Helen Isabel Victoria Jennet 6th daughter, name unk Obviously, anyone with last name of White is either a descendant of Wm the son or another line of Whites, possibly related to Wm and Ann. That's about all I've done on the Whites, except to note that there are a few Whites in the court records of 18th and 19th century. Robert and Jennet had the following kids: John Josiah Wm James Elizabeth Robt Jr Victory Ann Jennet Margaret All of this is per Andrea's work. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: hannonjj Surnames: Hughes Turner Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/4085/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I am looking for info on HUGHES surname. I have new info that my Hughes family may have lived in CHESTER COUNTY. William H. Hughes born in 1845 was my great grandfather. I do not know his father or mother's name. Juanita Hughes Hannon Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: Nachalink123 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/2175.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: I don't know if you are still checking this post or if you found your answer. I checked the SC Archives site and there are Revolutionary claims for a Robert Frost and a James Gore in SC as well as Asa Darby. I checked Footnote for Rev pensions for all three, but found none. There is a service record for an Asa Darby in NY and there is an Asa Darbe pension in Connecticut, but his wife was Annie and the Chester County will for Asa Darby lists his wife as Dorcas, so they are not the same man. My ancestor also had a Rev claim in SC, which includes what looks like a pension payment, but have never found a service record or pension record for him. I don't know if SC lost some of their records or if some of SC people simply could not prove their service to get pension. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: templetonr1 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/2175.2.2.2.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: William Willis Bodie published a list of 2500 men who served under Marion. Asa Darby is in the private-nco listing. No one named Frost or Gore is listed in the Captains section. Most men under Marion were from the Pee Dee area of SC. Note there are two Asa Darbys listed in the SC 1790 census for Chester County, SC. One is believed to be the son of a Jacob Darby who lived in the Pee Dee area. One descendant of the Asa who died in 1833 has stated this Asa served in the war with the Maryland Militia and did move to SC until after the war. He was for sure still in Maryland in 1778 when he signed a proclamation declaring allegiance to the new government. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ub4meib4u Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/580.1449.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Andrea's 1947 work answers many of your questions. It's hard to read the txt document, so I saved it in Word format and then used the highlight and search functions to enable me to analyze it in depth. James Miller, son of Josias and Elizabeth, was married to Margaret McAlliley. In 1790, Elizabeth Miller who has 4 boys 16 and over living with her is living between James Wyly and James McAliley. One cannot assume that name spellings were consistent prior to 1850 or perhaps even 1900 due to education levels. Many persons did not know the "old world" spelling of their name and the census takers did their best depending on how a person pronounced their name. In 1790, Charles Miller is living between Wm McKee and John Hays. Later in the Deed records, his neighbor is named William McCaa. In other census years, the neighbor's last name is spelled McKey, McCaw, McCaa, and McKay. I believe these are all the same family. The Wylies also lived next to the Millers. The last name is spelled Wyly, Wylie, Wiley, Wyley, and Wily, to name a few. This makes it hard to track in the various records, but by searching for all variations of the spelling, one can identify and track the families. Regarding Josias/Josiah Miller - in 1773, Robert Miller emigrates into Charleston/Charles Town, SC. He is listed under the Passenger and Immigration Lists in ancestry. The primary immigrant is listed as Robert, but his father is given as Josiah. In SC archives, Josias/Josiah Miller is given a land grant on Feb 6, 1773 [along with several other Millers]. The land plat is under "Jonah Miller" in the SC archives. An examinaiton of the actual plat shows that the name is actually "Josias", but the Archive's clerk mistyped or misread it as Jonah. In another place his name is give as Josias and Josiah. A comparison of the land grant, memorial, and plat confirms it is all the same property, thus the same man. There are no other Josias/Josiah Millers in the archives during the 1700's. In 1753, Josias Miller arrives on Snow Anne with his wife and child John Frederick, 3 years old. He gets 150 acres of land on Little River. Andrea says this is likely Fairfield County, which is adjacent to Chester. If son is 3, and assuming it is their first child, he would have been born in 1750, thus Josias is most likely born sometime around 1730. In 1773 a Josias arrives with son Robert. He comes after Rev Martin's group, but only by a month. Rev Martin came in 5 ships and all arrived in Oct 1773. One ship had small pox on board, so passengers had to stay on ship until Dec. 1773 The rest disembarked in October/November. A research of Rev. Martin's group confirms that the bulk of them settled in Chester. I beleive that many families connected to these 5 ships arrived beforehand to check things out, then sent for their kin. - just a hunch. MD/PA connection - There is also a Charles Miller family who moved from PA/MD area to Chester, SC [also Chester, SC was named after Chester, PA]. This Miller line later settled in old 96/Abbeville area. There was also a Robert, born 1728 who came from Ireland. All of these men are roughly the same age - Josias born ~1730, Chalres b~1725, Robert b~1728. The fact that they [at one time] all live close together, share common family names [including their kids], and are close in age, suggests that they are brothers or cousins. All are from Ireland/Scotland. It would take a long time to prove this, of course, but the population at that time generally lived in family groups and often moved together. Transportation was [as we well know] very limited and most folks were interdependent on each other. There is also a Chester document in which Robert Hindman/Hyndman states that he is the brother of Elizabeth Miller, who is the wife of Josias Miller, deceased. This proves her maiden name and her spouse. He lived in Fairfield co and may have been near the land Josias took in 1753 - again a hunch at this point. I have not researched the Hyndmans, yet. A study of census records, deed records, and court records will answer most of your questions. Millen/Milling - I do not believe these names are related to the Millers, other than by marriage. I believe Charles Miller of Fishing Creek and Wm Millen were in-laws or at the very least close friends since the two names appear together often in court records and they are also neighbors. I'll post more as I come across it. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ub4meib4u Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/3999.5.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Actually, that is a huge help for me. It means "& wife", so it tells me that the named person was married. FYI - While these Common Please records are primarily civil and criminal cases, much of the earlier pages [up to ~1800] include information such as "Michael Dickson and his wife Sarah..." I find this very helpful to differentiate couples in the county. Also, these court records sometimes have a descriptive sentence about where a particular named person lived [e.g "by the Saluda Road".] Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AdamWylieKin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/3999.5.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Uxor is the word or just plain ux. as in "et ux." or possibly "& uxor" It is a legal term. See http;//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Et_uxor Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AdamWylieKin Surnames: Miller Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/580.1449.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: You have much more knowledge than I on the Millers of anywhere. I have never researched independently the Chester area Millers, but I do descend from some later arriving area Millers, for which no one claims a connection as of now. Be assured I wish you well on proving all Chester colonial Millers are related, but that I doubt that it is true in the normal sense (that is, say all are related at least as closely as maybe sixth or seventh cousins). Even if it is truly true for most all of them in reality (if we knew all the connections), DNA will be the only way to get any of the lines, even those currently claimed to be connected, convincingly proven as connected to those of us who can not time travel back to find more data. Now the surname Miller is much more common and universal, but I have the same problem with all my (I collect them all) Chester and York Wylie families. So many William and Samuel and James Wylies and most limited colonial records will require that DNA be employed for any accurate connections beyond those (which all could use DNA as a final determiner) already known through lore, family documents and public documents. So few of them as yet known to be related at the time of their various arrivals to Chester County or District (or the Camden District before it) and so many inconsistent claims. Your continuing research may aid substantially for total thorough research, including all plats, grants, deeds in and out, estate administrations and other early records can not be questioned as a fundamental requirement. It just seems with the early families, it only rarely provides definitive answers. The SC on line archives index is exceptionally limited. You must go to the archives and review at a minimum all colonial records (or those found in their indexes if truly complete) to find many more instances of any name. Further it seems that only when all colonial records are reduced to accurate transcripts searchable by a universal search engine will you get all the potential gold on the Millers or any other colonial families. But will this allow the connectible ones to actually all be connected? For your information and use for whatever little it may be worth, currently I have Robert Miller husband of Jennet (or Janet) White; James Miller husband of Margaret ______ (this James is not documented by anyone else's speculations, but is strongly implied at least to me and I do have the logical maiden name of the wife); and Jannet Miller wife of James Knox, Jr. as the only putative children of Josiah and Elizabeth Hyndman (Hindman) Miller so far, all with many descendants, but I have little documentation only hunches and the claims of others to back these. I am eager to add more, but do not see a need to add a Charles Miller yet but believe there might well be more children with descendants. Have you found a Josiah (or Josias with your spelling variant) Miller obtaining land prior to the 2 Nov 1785 claimed death date (if that proves correct) for the patriarch, or Elizabeth Miller, the widow (if the woman did survive the man as claimed for a decade and more maybe to about 1799), passing on any land, or executing any wills or having any estate proceedings for these two folks? The answer is probably no, for a yes would come close to curing my doubts and answering your hopes. I do not even know if this couple actually reached the colonies, not even by resort to others' hunches or plain rank speculation other than that Elizabeth is claimed to have died at Richburg in 1799 by some as well as made to be Margaret Elizabeth Hindman by some of the posters, on what basis I am unsure. [I would be surprised to see a Millen, Milling be actually descendants of Chester Millers or siblings living with those different spellings, if intentional, as neighbors.] As you may be aware there is the same problem of who is related to who in a given family surname, with a few separate, but possibly related sets of families of Chester area Walkers (among other common surnamed folks). Would that all had well-identified all their local relatives (and well-identified all their known ancestors) in a still surviving record. Did anyone else but you ever claim the majority (or at least 45%) of the Chester colonial inhabitants were from Rev. Martin's flock? Some of my Chester area ancestral lines and their related in-laws came almost certainly along the Philadelphia Great Wagon Road from Pennsylvania, long before the Rev. Martin ships. None have I traced to Rev. Martin but all were Scots-Irish Presbyterians. Also two or three or four families of Wylies came with others on the 1767 Earl of Donegal, along with a Miller spouse, Jennet White and her parents and families and many other families. I think a review of the number of Camden (and Chester area)District plats outside the time of that immigration would make the percentage much lower, but that again would require careful record review. Were these Millers 1772 immigrants with or in 1772 even outside of the Rev. Martin congregation or is this known? I do think that any Chester Josiah Miller born prior to 1850 should be a descendant of the earlier man, the Miller patriarch for at least some of Chester area Millers. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ub4meib4u Surnames: Trussell, Franklyn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/3999.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following entry was taken from LDS microfilm # 0364837, "Transcript of Minutes of Court of Common Pleas 1785-1834" in Chester County, SC, page 17: "An indenture of lease & release from Thos Franklyn & Luxor to William Trussell was acknowledged and ordered to be recorded" I am not sure if the word "Luxor" is correct, but it is used elsewhere on this page and is my best interpretation of the handwriting. The date of this record is April 19, 1786 as read on page 16. Dates were only recorded when the court day began and after that, no date was noted until the next day that court met. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

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This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ub4meib4u Surnames: Miller, Dickson, Dixon, Wilson, McClure, Murphy, Millen, Milling, Carter, Roseborough, Morrow Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/580.1449.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for your reply. Yes I have read and studied two of Andrea's research documents about the Miller's [1947 and 1955], and it is absolutely invaluable. I have found it to be 95% accurate, but nevertheless I have found some minor errors. I have researched the majority of Miller's of SC [found in SC Archives - http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/onlinearchives/search.aspx]. Andrea focused on Robert Miller and therefore did not study all documents in the County. Also, those county records have been better organized since his 1947 report, enabling a more through research of all the Millers. I have focused primarily on the Chester Co Millers, since I have discovered and proven that my gggg-grandfather Charles Miller went from Chester, SC to Henry Co, GA about Jan. 1822. I have also studied several microfilms of Chester Co, SC and I feel certain that Charles C. Miller, Sr. is the son of Josiah and Elizabeth. I am still in process of proving it [i.e., reviewing more microfilms]. It is important to note that there are 2 Charles Millers in Chester Co between 1772 and 1822 [see 1790-1820 censuses]. Both men went by Charles Miller, Sr. However, in 1820 census records, the Charles Miller of Bull Run has a "C" at the end of his name. The Charles Miller of Fishing Creek area has an "R.R." following his name [compare neighbors in census recrods of 1790-1820]. Andrea states that Charles Miller [who marrried Ann (Carter or Murphy) and died 1822-1825] of Fishing Creek area is probably the son of Joisas and Elizabeth Miller. I believe this to be incorrect based on my subsequent study of documents from Chester, SC in which I specifically looked at all Charles Millers in those records. Like Andrea, I feel very certain that all of these Millers are related because of associated names found with them in the records, the fact that 90% of the residents appear to have come from Ireland, the majority of those Irish came with Rev. Wm Martin in the fall of 1772, and the ! small size of the county [~3 square miles]. I have proven that my direct ancestor, Charles C. Miller, Sr lived on Bull Run Creek in Chester Co [Deed record confirms this and he states in this same record that he is living in Henry Co, GA and is a Carpenter]. The other Charles Miller was a weaver, as confirmed in Chester County Common Pleas Court Records. Charles Miller, the weaver, died without direct descendants named in his Will, around 1822-1825. His inheritance was left to his nephew John Murphy and grandnephew Charles Miller Murphy [see SC Archives, which has that Will posted online]. Therefore I believe that he had no living children by 1825. Here are the names I have found associated with both Charles Millers in Chester Co: Michael Dickson/Dixon [both Charles Millers]; James Wilson [all Millers of Rocky Creek/Bull Run]; James McClure; Elizabeth Miller [there was only one in county records that I've seen up to ~1800]; Thomas Miller; Samuel Miller; Robert Miller; Andrew Miller; James Miller; Silas Miller; William Miller; Joseph Roseborough [clerk of court]; Morrow; John Murphy; Jacob Carter. In Chester Court records, Wm Millen is married to Hannah and she is named as a daughter in Jacob Carter's Will. Charles and Ann Miller are witnesses to this document. Wm Millen is living next door to Charles Miller of Fishing Creek in one census [around 1800-1820]. I feel strongly that Charles C. Miller of Bull Run is a son of Josias and Elizabeth Miller. This is because 1) Charles Miller of Fishing Creek died without children around 1822-1825; 2) Charles C. Miller of Bull Run moved to Henry County, GA and left a Will there in 1837 naming 9 children 3) that same Charles Miller of Bull Run lives adjacent to Josias Miller's family, 4) witnesses numerous documents involving Elizabeth and her known descendants. Charles Miller, Sr. ONLY witnesses documents involving Josias and Elizabeth Miller family. I am still in process of looking at all the County records in Chester, however. Another fact to make note of is that there is a Millen/Milling family in Chester at the same time [late 1700's]. This is proven in court records in which the man associated with Charles Miller of Fishing Creek is actually named William Millen/Milling. He clearly signs his name as "Millen" and it's also written as "Milling" in the same record. Wm Millen/Milling is always associated with Charles and Ann Miller of Fishing Creek area. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

...that's "likely" not "like"...sorry... -----Original Message----- From: Bill Derrow [mailto:lwderrow@comcast.net] Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 4:03 PM To: 'gc-gateway@rootsweb.com'; 'scchest2@rootsweb.com'; 'SCCHEST2-L@rootsweb.com' Subject: RE: [SCCHEST2] Group effort to construct a documented Trussell ofChester District family tree It's likely "et uxor," which means "and wife" in Latin. It's often abbreviated "et ux." -----Original Message----- From: scchest2-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scchest2-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 3:32 PM To: SCCHEST2-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Group effort to construct a documented Trussell ofChester District family tree This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ub4meib4u Surnames: Trussell, Franklyn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.count ies.chester/3999.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following entry was taken from LDS microfilm # 0364837, "Transcript of Minutes of Court of Common Pleas 1785-1834" in Chester County, SC, page 17: "An indenture of lease & release from Thos Franklyn & Luxor to William Trussell was acknowledged and ordered to be recorded" I am not sure if the word "Luxor" is correct, but it is used elsewhere on this page and is my best interpretation of the handwriting. The date of this record is April 19, 1786 as read on page 16. Dates were only recorded when the court day began and after that, no date was noted until the next day that court met. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's like "et uxor," which means "and wife" in Latin. It's often abbreviated "et ux." -----Original Message----- From: scchest2-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scchest2-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gc-gateway@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, December 29, 2008 3:32 PM To: SCCHEST2-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SCCHEST2] Group effort to construct a documented Trussell ofChester District family tree This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ub4meib4u Surnames: Trussell, Franklyn Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.count ies.chester/3999.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following entry was taken from LDS microfilm # 0364837, "Transcript of Minutes of Court of Common Pleas 1785-1834" in Chester County, SC, page 17: "An indenture of lease & release from Thos Franklyn & Luxor to William Trussell was acknowledged and ordered to be recorded" I am not sure if the word "Luxor" is correct, but it is used elsewhere on this page and is my best interpretation of the handwriting. The date of this record is April 19, 1786 as read on page 16. Dates were only recorded when the court day began and after that, no date was noted until the next day that court met. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCCHEST2-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: AdamWylieKin Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.chester/580.1449.1.1.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: That was my point for your e-mail address in this case is findable outside these boards. But I doubted you had really told ancestry.com to blank it out. My address remains as describe four messages back. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.