Book Y-Y, p. 162 RICHARD BERESFORD, ESQ., of Charleston, & 10 Oct. 1761 SARAH his wife, to DANIEL LESESNE, planter, of Feoffment St. Thomas Parish, Berkeley Co., for L 3000 currency, 70 a., part of 300 a. in St. Thomas Parish granted EDGAR WELLS & by various mesne conveyances became vested in BERESFORD. Witnesses: EDWARD NEUFVILLE, HENDRICK KOHLER, HARRIET BERESFORD, ELIZABETH BERESFORD. Witnesses to delivery of possession & seizin: ROBERT COLLINS, JOHN DUBOISE, STEPHEN FOGARTIE. NEUFVILLE testified 4 Mar. 1762 before CHARLES PINCKNEY, J.P. Recorded 11 June 1762 by WILLIAM HOPTON, Register. Plat of 70 a. by JOHN HENTIE, dated 18 Sept. 1761, bounding SE on RICHARD BERESFORD; NE on JOHN DUTARQUE; NW on DANIEL LESESNE & STEPHEN FOGARTIE; SW on RICHARD BERESFORD.

Many thanks to Sharon for pointing out this website. I have been in contact with the webmaster, Pat Sabin (who is most helpful,) and have volunteered to build the South Carolina link for this project. :-) It will be several months before I can get a website up, meanwhile I'll be scanning postcards. Please all you Charleston "rooters" feel free to ask about images. I have to scan them anyway so will be happy to send them along the way. Cheers, Maria > From: "Sharon" <[email protected]> > ============================= > Maria, > > This very nice site below is posting Vintage Postcards from each state in > the USA. They would probably love to have copies of your cards, I do not > believe I saw any yet for South Carolina. > Sharon Wright > > http://www.patsabin.com/VintagePostcards/

I have two 1905-ish postcards of Old Andrews Church. One front view, another side view which includes several men talking w/horse and buggy. No cemetery in either shot though. I'll be happy to scan & send these. Since I don't have PKZIP (on a Mac here) each image will be 25K - 30K. Let me know. Maria > From: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2000 20:14:44 EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SCCHARLE] St James Goose Creek pic online > > Hi > Do you know if there are any pictures of the Old Andrews Church and Cemetery? > I thought someone had said there was going to be a record of people burried > there. I have not seen anything as of yet, unless I am just looking in the > wrong place. > Thank > Betty

THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW. I WAS ALL SET TO ORDER IT TOMORROW. IT SOUNDS LIKE A GOOD BOOK. WONDER IF IT WOULD HELP TO CALL ANYWAY TO SEE IF THEY ARE ORDERING MORE. BETTY

In a message dated 02/21/2000 12:39:37 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I don't know who your John Debow, silversmith is, but you might check with the Charleston museum. They have a collection of early silver and might be familiar with any local silversmiths. >> Greetings from SC. John DEBOW is not listed in Rainwater's "Encyclopedia of American Silver Manufacturers" (the Bible of early silver makers). But there is an entire book devoted to silversmiths of SC-- has a real simple title like "Silversmiths of SC" or something similar. If you can't find it, get back to me. I know where there is a copy. URQ

Hi Elizabeth, Thank you so much for the information on this book. I will call them first thing tomorrow. Thank you for checking it out. I did not want to buy any book right now that could not help me with my research, even if I would have enjoyed seeing it. Sound like a nice book!! BETTy

Hi Pat, Do you know if I can write to the Charleston Library for help? I just do not know how that works. Thanks BETTY

Pat, Thank you so much for your help. I just found that I can check with the family History center here in New York and have them order directories for me. Betty

Hi Elizabeth , My family Mary Maham and her parents, Col Hezekiah Maham belonged to St. Stephens Parish in the 1700s. My Family Elizabeth Watson was from St. Johns parish in the middle 1700s. Do you know if the book you have Historic Ramblins Through Berkeley had anything about their parrish members and can you still buy this book? Thank You Betty

The two registers I have cover the following years 1729-1758 and 1754-1810.

HI Maria, I really would appreciate seeing a picture of the Old St. Andrews Church. I am so pleased with the help to each of the questions I have asked about Charleston. I found an address of this church. I want to write to them and see if they are able to send me a list of family that I believe to be burried there. Thanks so much BETTY

Elizabeth and Mary: I phoned this morning and got the last copy of the book, so for anyone else, I'm sorry, but don't bother trying. By the way, the area code has changed to 843. Thanks again, Edward

The following comes from the book - "Information for Guides of Historic Charleston, South Carolina, copyright 1985 Orange Street was along the eastern boundary of the Orange Garden ( a public pleasure garden for conerts, etc.) Alexander Petrie divided the land in 1767. The street and garden were named for oranges which were planted there. (page 373) Be aware that many house numbers have changed over the years and there is no master list to determine what they are today. With that said - Current #9 Orange Street was part of a 3 1/2 story frame double tenement (built about 1770) (Note: being a frame building, the original structure might well have burned during one of the great fires of Charleston in the intervening years) South Bay was on, what was then, the tip of the peninsula according to the 1788 ichnography map. It ran from east to west between Meeting and Gibbes Wharf (just west of Logan Street). The tip of the peninsula was filled in in the early 1900s creating the area now known as Murray Boulevard. South Bay was further inland and likely part of what is known as South Battery today. ************* Fort Mechanic is a blank to me. Champney's Wharf was at the foot of Broad Street, behind the Old Exchange (that currently sits on East Bay at the east end of Broad Street. I don't know who your John Debow, silversmith is, but you might check with the Charleston museum. They have a collection of early silver and might be familiar with any local silversmiths. They are on Meeting Street. Another possibility is the Gibbes Museum (art museum), also on Meeting Street. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: Elizabeth Russo <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2000 10:51 AM Subject: [SCCHARLE] Charleston city directory questions; names I'm researching > A couple of weeks ago, I posted these questions/this info to the SCROOTS > list, with little reponse. So I'm posting here. > > I gleaned the following from the directories I found at the DAR library; > unfortunately, I did not copy title pages, so I do not know how to cite > these. Help appreciated. > > Also, none of the addresses listed stated whether they were business or > home or both. I am assuming the latter. > > Anyone know if any of these are still intact? I'll be there in April to > find out, but asking in the offchance anyone is from the neighborhood > and knows these places. > > I cannot find the streets on a modern map for those with a >> sign next > to them. If anyone knows about the address, please let me know. > > 1782: > > CARNE, SAMUEL, Merchant. 9 Orange St. (His father, Dr. Samuel Carne, > owned most of the surrounding area, and Orange St. was created after he > subdivided the lots and sold them off.) This was once a part of "Orange > Garden". Does that term have any meaning today? > > 1790: > > CARNES, JOHN. Apothecary. 119 Queen Street > CARNES, LAWRENCE, Shop Keeper. 41 Elliot St. > CARNES, SUSANNAH. 83 Tradd St. > > HUTCHINSON, JEREMIAH, Chair Maker. Meeting St. (no number) > HUTCHINSON, THOMAS, Sr., Planter. East Bay. (no number) > >>HUTCHINSON, THOMAS, Jr., Planter. 21 South Bay (Would this be the same as East Bay, but on the southern end?) > > 1794: > > DEBOW, JOHN, silversmith, 118 Queen Street. (anyone know who this is?) > HUTCHINSON, JOHN. Shop Keeper. 65 East Bay > > 1796: > > CARNE, JOHN. 32 Guignard St. > >>HUTCHINSON, ANN. Widow. Fort Mechanic (what/where is this?) > HUTCHINSON, JAMES. Baker. 91 King st. > > 1801: > > CARN, LAWRENCE. King St. (no number) > CARNE, T. WILLIAM. 11 Pinckney St. > CARNES, SAMUEL. Rope maker. 28 Beaufain St. > DUBOIS, PETER. Carpenter. 28 St. Philip's St. > >>HUTCHINS, HUGH. Mariner. 3 Champney St. > HUTCHINSON, ELIZABETH. 106 Meeting St. > > 1802: > > CARNE, THOMAS WILLIAM, Bookkeeper. 4 Anson St. > CARNES, SAMUEL. Rope maker. 28 Beaufain St. > CARNS, SUSANNAH. Widow & planter. 24 Hasell St. > > DUBOIS, L., Grocer. 32 Church St. > DUBOIS, PETER, House Carpenter. 22 St. Philip's St. > > ELFE, Thomas. House Carpenter. 17 Wentworth St. > > >>HUTCHINSON, Hugh. Captain. Champney's St. > HUTCHINSON, JEREMIAH, chair maker. 5 Archdale Street. > > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Charleston County SC Genealogy Site > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lake/3577 >

A couple of weeks ago, I posted these questions/this info to the SCROOTS list, with little reponse. So I'm posting here. I gleaned the following from the directories I found at the DAR library; unfortunately, I did not copy title pages, so I do not know how to cite these. Help appreciated. Also, none of the addresses listed stated whether they were business or home or both. I am assuming the latter. Anyone know if any of these are still intact? I'll be there in April to find out, but asking in the offchance anyone is from the neighborhood and knows these places. I cannot find the streets on a modern map for those with a >> sign next to them. If anyone knows about the address, please let me know. 1782: CARNE, SAMUEL, Merchant. 9 Orange St. (His father, Dr. Samuel Carne, owned most of the surrounding area, and Orange St. was created after he subdivided the lots and sold them off.) This was once a part of "Orange Garden". Does that term have any meaning today? 1790: CARNES, JOHN. Apothecary. 119 Queen Street CARNES, LAWRENCE, Shop Keeper. 41 Elliot St. CARNES, SUSANNAH. 83 Tradd St. HUTCHINSON, JEREMIAH, Chair Maker. Meeting St. (no number) HUTCHINSON, THOMAS, Sr., Planter. East Bay. (no number) >>HUTCHINSON, THOMAS, Jr., Planter. 21 South Bay (Would this be the same as East Bay, but on the southern end?) 1794: DEBOW, JOHN, silversmith, 118 Queen Street. (anyone know who this is?) HUTCHINSON, JOHN. Shop Keeper. 65 East Bay 1796: CARNE, JOHN. 32 Guignard St. >>HUTCHINSON, ANN. Widow. Fort Mechanic (what/where is this?) HUTCHINSON, JAMES. Baker. 91 King st. 1801: CARN, LAWRENCE. King St. (no number) CARNE, T. WILLIAM. 11 Pinckney St. CARNES, SAMUEL. Rope maker. 28 Beaufain St. DUBOIS, PETER. Carpenter. 28 St. Philip's St. >>HUTCHINS, HUGH. Mariner. 3 Champney St. HUTCHINSON, ELIZABETH. 106 Meeting St. 1802: CARNE, THOMAS WILLIAM, Bookkeeper. 4 Anson St. CARNES, SAMUEL. Rope maker. 28 Beaufain St. CARNS, SUSANNAH. Widow & planter. 24 Hasell St. DUBOIS, L., Grocer. 32 Church St. DUBOIS, PETER, House Carpenter. 22 St. Philip's St. ELFE, Thomas. House Carpenter. 17 Wentworth St. >>HUTCHINSON, Hugh. Captain. Champney's St. HUTCHINSON, JEREMIAH, chair maker. 5 Archdale Street.

For researchers in the Washington, D.C. area, you should know that several of these little gems dated 1782 through 1802 (at least) are available at the DAR library where I found my PETER DUBOIS in several directories as a house carpenter living/working out of St. Philip's Street, as well as several other ancestors and related families. This is a WONDERFUL resource! Elizabeth DuBois Russo

The City Directories of Charleston date from the very earliest years after the Revolutionary War. A very unique resource because so few towns of that period published such a book! City Directories are just like modern Telephone Directoies. There is an alphabetized list of people - starting with "A" - then the street address. However, instead of a telephone number, the person's occupation - as Cabinet Maker, Green Grocer, Watchmaker, etc. etc. A wonderful way to learn your ancestor's job. Although the list is mostly male, it does includes women - with occupations of seamstress, hatmaker, etc. Since so many people worked at home, the "B" or business address is also usually the home address. (NW corner of King at Beresford.) If not, the "H" or home address is also given, especially in the later years. As I wrote yesterday, the directories are also interesting for their ongoing lists of churches, schools (note the studies), fraternal organizations, and advertisements ! These directories were full of city pride - come to South Carolina, wonderful climate, great opportunities, etc. Some years give immigration news, political info re the various Wards or geographic divisions of the city ( the later Census names are listed by Wards) statistical data on occupations, almanac for planting, etc. etc. The Charleston City Directories were published by private printers on no particularly fixed schedule - although approximately every other year. Publication stopped completely during the Civil War. The smaller volumes of the early years are on microfiche - and the larger volumes of later years on microfilm. Re ordering the microfiche/microfilm. When you visit your local Family History Center, the volunteers will explain how to find the number and then order the microfilm for the particular year(s) in which you're interested. The FHC's also have a printed booklet available for EACH state listing microfilmed resources available. Be sure to get South Carolina and any other state of interest - again for a very nominal amount - I believe fifty cents. I have found these microfilmed city directories, church registers and cemeteries to be a wonderful resource for family research - particularly if NOT living in the Charleston area. Plus you can make a photo copy for your records. Hope you find the microfilms as helpful and interesting as I have. Mary Alice

In a message dated 02/20/2000 11:33:42 PM Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << I appreciate your telling me about ordering microfilm for city directories for Charleston SC from a Family History Center. I did not know if this could be found over a web site or how to get the information I wanted. >> If you'd like to know what else is available through Family History Centers, try this: www.familysearch.org Custom Search Family History Library Catalog Place Name "Charleston" part of "South Carolina" BTW, a city directory is a lot like a phone book (before phones), but usually includes information on the city such as civic organizations, schools, public officials, etc. Frank J.

I appreciate your telling me about ordering microfilm for city directories for Charleston SC from a Family History Center. I did not know if this could be found over a web site or how to get the information I wanted. We have a Family History in the area of New York that I live in. I can at least let them know what I need to look for. I do not know just what city directories are., but I am sure they will explain it to me when I let them know what I am looking for. I still do not understand when you give me websites for the archives of Charleston, SC. Am I able to get answers I want over the internet. Just how does it work? I am slowly catching on!!!!!!!!!! Thank you BETTY

Mary and Elizabeth: Thank you both so much for taking the time to give me this information. I hope others will also find value in it. I will call them tomorrow morning and place the order. Edward -----Original Message----- From: Mary Jacques <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, February 20, 2000 11:37 AM Subject: [SCCHARLE] Berkeley Museum Address -- "Historic Ramblin's Through Berkeley" >Here is information on resource for books. I butt in here on the >conversation between Elizabeth Russo who lost her internet bookmarks and >Edward L. Manigault because I had a great deal of difficulty initially >locating the following information. Took me about half a day and many long >distance phone calls to genealogy-related libraries, etc. around South >Carolina: > >Berkeley Museum >950 Stony Landing Road >Moncks corner, SC 29461 >Phone: 803-899-5101 >Attn: Debbie Reynolds, Office Manager >(They don't have email) > >In December 1999 Berkeley Museum ("a facility of the Berkeley County >Historical Society") had copies of books listed below: > >Historic Ramblin's Though Berkeley $35.00 > >Historic Resources of Berkeley County $10.00 > >South Carolina and Cemetery Records Lake Marion, Lake Moultrie $8.85 > >Indeed, they do ship and then bill you for cost of books plus shipping >charges. I certainly enjoyed working with Debbie Reynolds. > >Mary Jacques in Montana >[email protected] > > > >==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== >Another 'MUST' for South Carolina genealogical research >South Carolina Department of Archives and History >http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/ >

>"South Carolina Highway Historical Marker Guide," SC Dept. of Archives & History, 1992, p. 23:"Goose Creek Church US 52, 14.4 miles S of Moncks Corner > "... and here is preserved the IZARD Hatchment, said to be one of the only two in America." >>URQ > What's an IZARD? Is it anything like a GIZZARD? hee hee... Thanks! Marian, Looking for Caesar L.O.W.N.D.E.S. and family, someplace not far from that hatchment thing... [email protected]