Bless you, I am looking for the burial site of Robert Phillips, d.8/12/1782 and David Phillips, his nephew, d. 1780?. thank you, ever so much. Frances Rhita Wood Reynolds wrote: > Haddrell's Point is located in Mt. Pleasant on Shem Creek right across the > harbor from Charleston. I live about 2 blocks away. There is no cemetery > there. It is actually the old cite of the Lucas Family's rice plantation. > I will check next month with the Christ Church Historical Society to see if > they have any record of a cemetery. Are you looking for anything in > particular> > > Rhita Wood Reynolds > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Charleston County SC Genealogy Site > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lake/3577 -- http://www.egroups.com/group/frfg/info.html http://www.onelist.com/community/AmerRevLoyalists http://www.onelist.com/community/Rouse http://www.twinpinesretreat.com

Haddrell's Point is located in Mt. Pleasant on Shem Creek right across the harbor from Charleston. I live about 2 blocks away. There is no cemetery there. It is actually the old cite of the Lucas Family's rice plantation. I will check next month with the Christ Church Historical Society to see if they have any record of a cemetery. Are you looking for anything in particular> Rhita Wood Reynolds

Thank you so much for the information, it was an assumption on my part that there would be some type of burial around Haddrell's Point. There were a lot of deaths of Tories and Rebels and they had to bury them somewhere. In 1782, many refugees (Loyalist) arrived and spent a few months in some type of refugee camp. There were many deaths in the camps, I wonder where they are buried. I found a list of dead the back of Murtie June Clark's book " Loyalists in the Southern Campaign". the list was from a coffin maker. It names the dead and the person who was handling arrangements but not the place of burial. One of my ancestors, Robert Phillips of Fairfield County, died Aug. 12,1782 while a refugee. I would like to know where in Charleston, the burial would have taken place. It does not make sense that he would have been taken to Fairfield County. It was August, hot and muggy, they would have buried them quickly. Do you have information on this? As for Haddrell's Point, one of my Phillips Ancestors died there, he had to have been buried nearby. This is where my assumption that a cemetery would have been near by. Thank you for your help and Happy Easter. Frances Waring Hills wrote: > Hi Frances, > > Haddrell's Point is the tip of land on the south side > of Shem Creek in Mount Pleasant. After the fall of > Charleston, all enlisted men were put on prison hulks > in the harbor, the officers were put on parole in Mt. > Pleasant and allowed to travel as far as Christ > Church, > six miles to the north of the village. They had to > routinely check in at the Hibben House (111 Hibben > Street) to validate their parole. Their is no cemetary > at Haddrell's Point. > > I would be interested to know the source for your > information on prisoner burial. > > Best wishes, > > Waring Hills > Mt. Pleasant, SC// > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. > http://invites.yahoo.com > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Lots of holdings on Charleston County Families > South Carolina Historical Society > http://www.schistory.org

Is there someone on the list that get a copy of a will in Charleston for me. I would be happy to pay for it. I hope it will prove to be my ggggrandfather. Jerry Beddingfield

Hi Frances, Haddrell's Point is the tip of land on the south side of Shem Creek in Mount Pleasant. After the fall of Charleston, all enlisted men were put on prison hulks in the harbor, the officers were put on parole in Mt. Pleasant and allowed to travel as far as Christ Church, six miles to the north of the village. They had to routinely check in at the Hibben House (111 Hibben Street) to validate their parole. Their is no cemetary at Haddrell's Point. I would be interested to know the source for your information on prisoner burial. Best wishes, Waring Hills Mt. Pleasant, SC// __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send online invitations with Yahoo! Invites. http://invites.yahoo.com

In a message dated 04/18/2000 9:35:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, frfg@earthlink.net writes: << where is Haddrell's Point in relation to downtown Charleston? >> At this site, type in Haddrell Point. Then, in the screen that appears, click on "Show Feature Location" and you will get a map showing the point and Charleston. http://mapping.usgs.gov/www/gnis/gnisform.html Feature Name: Haddrell Point Feature Type: cape State: South Carolina County: Charleston Variant Name(s) Hadrells Point USGS 7.5' x 7.5' Map: Charleston Latitude: 324717N Longitude: 0795307W Frank J.

Can anyone give information on Haddrell's Point? In 1780-81 the British controlled Charleston, capturing rebel prisoners. Many men were killed, they were buried somewhere around Haddrell's Point. Is there a cemetery around there, where is Haddrell's Point in relation to downtown Charleston? Frances -- http://www.egroups.com/group/frfg/info.html http://www.onelist.com/community/AmerRevLoyalists http://www.onelist.com/community/Rouse http://www.twinpinesretreat.com

Are there any records available on the "Charleston Poor House for Women".ca.1865. imogeneh@bellsouth.net DAR3LLP@aol.com wrote: > � > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Another 'MUST' for South Carolina genealogical research > South Carolina Department of Archives and History > http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/

FrankJGA@aol.com [mailto:FrankJGA@aol.com] Monday, April 17, 2000 8:52 PM > > Someone mentioned a new book by Susan King on 19th century > Catholic deaths in > Charleston. Does anyone know where this book is available > for purchase? > > Frank J. > King, Susan S. (2000). Roman Catholic Deaths in Charleston, South Carolina, 1800-1860. Hardcover, 330 pages, alphabetically arranged. $43 postpaid. Order from SCMAR, PO Box 21766, Columbia, SC 29221. That is the South Carolina Magazine of Ancestral Research (SCMAR). Their web site is: http://www.netside.com/~scmar/ I have not purchased this book. Daniel Daniel J. Kortenkamp, Ph.D. dkortenk@uwsp.edu Dept. of Psychology University of Wisconsin fax: 715 346-2778 Stevens Point, WI 54481 http://www.uwsp.edu/acad/psych/dk/danielpg.htm

Hi All, Someone mentioned a new book by Susan King on 19th century Catholic deaths in Charleston. Does anyone know where this book is available for purchase? Frank J.

hi carole - i only just received information recently that a rev. j. h. hono(u)r performed the marriage of several of my ancestors in charleston, sc in the early 1800s. don't know if he's one of the ones you are looking for. don't have any info on the other names, sorry. have you checked with the charleston county public library? they have been a great help to me in finding some information that i needed. they might also be able to advise you where to look for information on the other towns/cities you mention. julie thames howell, jax, fla CarBurCo@aol.com wrote:

--part1_ab.23372e8.262cb3b5_boundary Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Thought I had posted this message to the Charleston List. However, have not seen it today - so forwarding my original message. Please pardon - if there is a duplication. Mary Alice --part1_ab.23372e8.262cb3b5_boundary Content-Type: message/rfc822 Content-Disposition: inline Return-Path: <SCCHARLE-L-request@rootsweb.com> Received: from rly-za02.mx.aol.com (rly-za02.mail.aol.com [172.31.36.98]) by air-za03.mail.aol.com (v70.20) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:56:27 2000 Received: from bl-14.rootsweb.com (bl-14.rootsweb.com [209.85.6.30]) by rly-za02.mx.aol.com (v71.10) with ESMTP; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:55:52 -0400 Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-14.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id IAA24912; Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:55:12 -0700 (PDT) Resent-Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 08:55:12 -0700 (PDT) X-Original-Sender: MErwin114@aol.com Mon Apr 17 08:55:11 2000 From: MErwin114@aol.com Message-ID: <84.3fe1ef4.262c8dbb@aol.com> Date: Mon, 17 Apr 2000 11:54:35 EDT Subject: Re: [SCCHARLE] Re Church of Rev. I. H. Honor Old-To: SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Mailer: AOL 3.0 for Windows 95 sub 64 Resent-Message-ID: <kHAaaB.A.9EG.fPz-4@bl-14.rootsweb.com> To: SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com Reply-To: SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/663 X-Loop: SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: SCCHARLE-L-request@rootsweb.com Re Church of Rev. I. H. Honor The St. Andrew"s Lutheran Church (originally called the Wentworth Street Lutheran Church) was formed in 1866 after the Civil War, by merger of two congregations - Zion's Lutheran Church - and the Wentworth Street Methodist Protestant Church. (Note: The Methodists then became members of the Lutheran Faith.) The Lutheran Pastor was Rev. William S. Bowman - and the Methodist Pastor was Rev. Dr. John H. Honour. Some members were buried in the CHURCHYARD. So these burial records might also be a good source for family history. I understand the current St. Andrew's Church - like downtown churches all over the country - has lost many members to suburban congregations. And in fact, may once more consider a merger to stay "alive". If anyone requests information and/or the Church History Book - please consider sending them a donation. * * * Mr. Fred J. Kern Church Historian St. Andrew's Lutheran Church 37-43 Wentworth Street Charleston, SC 29401 * * * Mary Alice ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== Lots of holdings on Charleston County Families South Carolina Historical Society http://www.schistory.org --part1_ab.23372e8.262cb3b5_boundary--

Re Church of Rev. I. H. Honor The St. Andrew"s Lutheran Church (originally called the Wentworth Street Lutheran Church) was formed in 1866 after the Civil War, by merger of two congregations - Zion's Lutheran Church - and the Wentworth Street Methodist Protestant Church. (Note: The Methodists then became members of the Lutheran Faith.) The Lutheran Pastor was Rev. William S. Bowman - and the Methodist Pastor was Rev. Dr. John H. Honour. Some members were buried in the CHURCHYARD. So these burial records might also be a good source for family history. I understand the current St. Andrew's Church - like downtown churches all over the country - has lost many members to suburban congregations. And in fact, may once more consider a merger to stay "alive". If anyone requests information and/or the Church History Book - please consider sending them a donation. * * * Mr. Fred J. Kern Church Historian St. Andrew's Lutheran Church 37-43 Wentworth Street Charleston, SC 29401 * * * Mary Alice

Julie and anyone with these names in Charleston, Georgetown or Williamsburg SC, I am doing the best I can (which is pretty badly) at tracking down connections with my early NORTON family who had doctors and ministers among them and lived in Georgetown, SC; Williamsburg, SC; and Charleston in the period before 1851. A couple of NORTONS married HONOURS and I am hoping you or someone else may know about them. ANNE NORTON b ca 1798 probably Georgetown, married a LEE RENTZ in Charleston before 1816. They had a daughter named MARIA RENTZ who married LAWRENCE HONOUR (I do NOT have the dates on this, but I believe LAWRENCE HONOUR would have been in the age group to have been in the CSA. Please let me know if your HONOUR has any Rentz and especially NORTON contacts! Thank you so much for looking. Fingers crossed, Carole Caroline Burnett Cook g-g-g granddaughter of Dr. Samuel Edwin Norton In a message dated 4/17/00 9:30:00 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SCCHARLE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << Tony and Julie Howell <tjhowell@bellsouth.net> To: SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <38FA33A2.BEE3E19@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [SCCHARLE] Re Church of Rev. I. H. Honor Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit hello mary alice - thank you so much for your reply. what a surprise...i received not only your reply but one from the sc room at the charleston county public library on this subject. (yours was more involved, and i thank you for that.) to add a bit of the history that the ccpl gave me, as follows: "after the civil war, the wentworth street church had been badly damaged by shelling and the church lacked enough money for repairs. it merged with the zion lutheran church, who needed a larger building but couldn't afford the extremely high prices of the post-civil war time. the wentworth medhodist church became a lutheran church but honour would still have been a methodist minister in 1848." i would love to have a photocopy of the page and the church address. re the picture of rev. honour, if you do not have access to someone with a scanner, you might contact a good photo shop (not drugstore-type) and see if they could scan the picture and save it as a "jpeg" file on a floppy disk. thanks again for the info. have a nice day. julie thames howell, jax, fla

Hi Mary Alice, I would so appreciate getting the information from you to contact the St. Andrews Lutheran Church on Wentworth. I am "missing" some of my St. John's Lutheran ancestors, so maybe I can find them there...got to try! I photocopied all the German (translated) St. John's Lutheran Church Records from 1763-1787 from microfilm including births, marraiges, baptisms and deaths in case you have other questions. I've been keeping an eye out for your Droze family! Thanks....Lynn

hello mary alice - thank you so much for your reply. what a surprise...i received not only your reply but one from the sc room at the charleston county public library on this subject. (yours was more involved, and i thank you for that.) to add a bit of the history that the ccpl gave me, as follows: "after the civil war, the wentworth street church had been badly damaged by shelling and the church lacked enough money for repairs. it merged with the zion lutheran church, who needed a larger building but couldn't afford the extremely high prices of the post-civil war time. the wentworth medhodist church became a lutheran church but honour would still have been a methodist minister in 1848." i would love to have a photocopy of the page and the church address. re the picture of rev. honour, if you do not have access to someone with a scanner, you might contact a good photo shop (not drugstore-type) and see if they could scan the picture and save it as a "jpeg" file on a floppy disk. thanks again for the info. have a nice day. julie thames howell, jax, fla MErwin114@aol.com wrote: > Julie Thames Howell wrote re family bible record of Charleston wedding in > 1848 by minister named Rev. I. H. Honor - and hoped to learn his church. > > I believe I might have the answer !! > These past few years, I have had much success in corresponding wih several > historic Charleston Lutheran Churches - re records of my maternal and > paternal lines. > > Thanks to a recent mention on the List - I called historic St. Joannes > Lutheran Church. No records of my family, but they referred me to a near > neighbor - St. Andrew's Lutheran Church on Wentworth Street. I spoke with > their Church Historian - and he kindly researched my family names, and mailed > me photocopies of the church index cards - recording baptism, confirmation, > marriage, funeral, etc. Most were for collateral lines - but to my complete > surprise and joy - one was record of my own Droze great grandparents' wedding. > > Also per my request, he mailed me a booklet re History of the Church, which > he had written in 1978. > The St. Andrew's Lutheran Church (originally called the Wentworth Street > Lutheran Church) was formed in 1866 after the Civil War, by merger of two > congregations - the Zion's Lutheran Church and the Wentworth Street Methodist > Protestant Church. (Note: The Methodists then became members of the Lutheran > faiith.) > > The Lutheran Pastor was Rev. William S. Bowman - and the Methodist Pastor was > Rev. Dr. John H. Honour. > > During the 1800's, the capital letters "I" and "J" were often written the > very same way. So I believe that your Rev. I. H. Honor - was the Methodist > Pastor - Rev. J. H. Honour - who in 1848, was still a member of the Methodist > Church . > > Also, remember per custom, weddings were not in church - but usually in home > - nearly always that of the bride. (Same for funerals.) > > As I write this, I am looking at a picture of Rev. Honour. Wish I had a > scanner - but alas !! I do not. > Julie, let me know if you would like a photocopy of this page and/or church > address for further direct correspondence with them. > > Mary Alice Droze Erwin > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Another 'MUST' for South Carolina genealogical research > South Carolina Department of Archives and History > http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/

Julie Thames Howell wrote re family bible record of Charleston wedding in 1848 by minister named Rev. I. H. Honor - and hoped to learn his church. I believe I might have the answer !! These past few years, I have had much success in corresponding wih several historic Charleston Lutheran Churches - re records of my maternal and paternal lines. Thanks to a recent mention on the List - I called historic St. Joannes Lutheran Church. No records of my family, but they referred me to a near neighbor - St. Andrew's Lutheran Church on Wentworth Street. I spoke with their Church Historian - and he kindly researched my family names, and mailed me photocopies of the church index cards - recording baptism, confirmation, marriage, funeral, etc. Most were for collateral lines - but to my complete surprise and joy - one was record of my own Droze great grandparents' wedding. Also per my request, he mailed me a booklet re History of the Church, which he had written in 1978. The St. Andrew's Lutheran Church (originally called the Wentworth Street Lutheran Church) was formed in 1866 after the Civil War, by merger of two congregations - the Zion's Lutheran Church and the Wentworth Street Methodist Protestant Church. (Note: The Methodists then became members of the Lutheran faiith.) The Lutheran Pastor was Rev. William S. Bowman - and the Methodist Pastor was Rev. Dr. John H. Honour. During the 1800's, the capital letters "I" and "J" were often written the very same way. So I believe that your Rev. I. H. Honor - was the Methodist Pastor - Rev. J. H. Honour - who in 1848, was still a member of the Methodist Church . Also, remember per custom, weddings were not in church - but usually in home - nearly always that of the bride. (Same for funerals.) As I write this, I am looking at a picture of Rev. Honour. Wish I had a scanner - but alas !! I do not. Julie, let me know if you would like a photocopy of this page and/or church address for further direct correspondence with them. Mary Alice Droze Erwin

Hi All! I apologize for duplicate posts of this message. Found this in my bookmarks. It has the title of a book about plantations which mentions some plantations in S.C. I've never heard of. Maybe they're somebody's obscure plantation homes. Deborah http://www.msstate.edu/listarchives/afrigeneas/199708/msg00329.html ********************************************* iWon.com www.iwon.com why wouldn't you? *********************************************

John, The Butler family ties in somewhat with one of my gggg grandfathers. It is rumored that he traveled with a John Butler to NC to supervise the construction of a church and several other structures near Fletcher NC. Just cant find proof of this. Bill Baldwin Clearwater FL Thanks for looking. All I know is that some (or all) of the plantation was owned in the 1820s by the Butler family. I think it was a pretty small plantation. John