Looking for information on this cousin, Benjamin Chaplin Pressley(1815-1896). He was a sub treasurer at Charleston at the beginning of the Civil War. Also a circuit court judge in South Carolina. No children, but wondering if he maintain a home in Charleston at that time. Any one have time to search some of your Charleston books? Thanks in California, Janyce

In a message dated 5/14/00 1:09:25 PM Eastern Daylight Time, coliver@uswest.net writes: << More on King St. 1856 - 27 King St. Joseph Henry Oliver Carver & Gilder 1860 - 27 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1866 - 29 King St. Mrs. Bridget Oliver 1867-68 - 29 King St. Patrick Collins Plasterer 1867-68 - 29 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1869-70 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1872-73 - 17 King St Patrick Collins Plasterer & Whitewasher 1872-73 - 17 King St. E. Oliver Dry Goods 1872-73 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1873-74 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Contractor & Builder 1875-76 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1877-76 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1877-78 - 30 King St. Mrs. Margaret Reilly 1878-79 - 17 King St. Patrick Collins 1878-79 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Contractor & Builder 1879-80 - 17 King St. Patrick Collins Plasterer 1879-80 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Contractor & Builder 1880-81 - 23 King St. Patrick Collins 1880-81 - 23 King St. Henry Oliver Contractor & Builder 1882 - 23 King St. Bridget Oliver (widow of Joseph H.) 1882 - 23 King St. Henry Oliver Contractor & Builder >> Thanks for posting the information in regards to King St. I wonder if the Axson sold the property to Henry Oliver abt 1869 or if there was another person between then . William Axson , left property at 17 King St to his sons in his will ( date 1800 ). His Nephew has property at 22 King 1819 , then in 1822 his residence changes to 70 King.

In a message dated 05/14/2000 11:41:40 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dkortenk@uwsp.edu writes: << "St. Michaels and St. Philips Parishes" -- are these Catholic parishes that Simon SCHERMER/CARMER at #54 Saint Philip Street might have belonged to? He was Catholic from Holland. His wife was from Germany. >> Greetings from SC. They were not Roman Catholic parishes. The churches were Anglican/ Episcopalian but the surrounding parishes became political districts. You might want to try the early Lutheran churches. I have a similar situation w/ ancestors where one spouse was Roman Catholic & one was German Lutheran. Their records were located in one of the early Charleston Lutheran churches. URQ

Pat, Thank you so much. I will call them on Monday. Betty

More on King St. 1856 - 27 King St. Joseph Henry Oliver Carver & Gilder 1860 - 27 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1866 - 29 King St. Mrs. Bridget Oliver 1867-68 - 29 King St. Patrick Collins Plasterer 1867-68 - 29 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1869-70 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1872-73 - 17 King St Patrick Collins Plasterer & Whitewasher 1872-73 - 17 King St. E. Oliver Dry Goods 1872-73 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1873-74 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Contractor & Builder 1875-76 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1877-76 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Carpenter 1877-78 - 30 King St. Mrs. Margaret Reilly 1878-79 - 17 King St. Patrick Collins 1878-79 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Contractor & Builder 1879-80 - 17 King St. Patrick Collins Plasterer 1879-80 - 17 King St. Henry Oliver Contractor & Builder 1880-81 - 23 King St. Patrick Collins 1880-81 - 23 King St. Henry Oliver Contractor & Builder 1882 - 23 King St. Bridget Oliver (widow of Joseph H.) 1882 - 23 King St. Henry Oliver Contractor & Builder

Randy, thanks for your prompt reply. I'll try CARMER on page 332. "St. Michaels and St. Philips Parishes" -- are these Catholic parishes that Simon SCHERMER/CARMER at #54 Saint Philip Street might have belonged to? He was Catholic from Holland. His wife was from Germany. If so, where would records be for these parishes? He was married about 1846, and they had two children -- 26 Oct 1848? and 20 Apr 1850? He died 1854? I have corresponded with St. Patrick's parish on Saint Philip Street, St. Mary's, and with the Charleston Diocese (St. John the Baptist) but they have no records of these SCHERMERs. I suppose now I need to try "CARMER." <smile> Thanks again for any help you can be. Daniel Daniel J. Kortenkamp dkortenk@uwsp.edu http://www.uwsp.edu/acad/psych/dk/danielpg.htm > > Try Simon Carmer page 332 in St. Michaels and St. Philips Parishes, > Charleston County, 1850. > > Randy > > > > Would anyone know the 1850 Federal Census page numbers for > Saint Philip > St., > > Charleston? Or, the approximate page numbers? I am going > to look for my > > gg-grandfather Simon SCHERMER at #54 (east side of Saint > Philip St.). > > > > Daniel > > > > > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Lots of holdings on Charleston County Families > South Carolina Historical Society > http://www.schistory.org >

Try Simon Carmer page 332 in St. Michaels and St. Philips Parishes, Charleston County, 1850. Randy > Would anyone know the 1850 Federal Census page numbers for Saint Philip St., > Charleston? Or, the approximate page numbers? I am going to look for my > gg-grandfather Simon SCHERMER at #54 (east side of Saint Philip St.). > > Daniel

Betty - The Mesne conveyance office address is: Register of Mesne Conveyance , 2 Courthouse Square, Charleston, SC 29401 phone: 843 723 6780. They have deeds from 1719 - current. ----- Original Message ----- From: <PSI4E@aol.com> To: <SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 9:47 PM Subject: Re: [SCCHARLE] Re: SCCHARLE-D Digest V00 #80 > Thanks for the name on Robert. He would be the brother to my Gt. > Grandfather, Alexander Richie Haig. Do you know how I could get in touch > with the mesgne office you mentioned.? George Haig MD my gt. gt. > gt.grandfather who owned a lot of property and 270 slaves had a home in > Charleston and also in the Low Country had died in 1789. I have learned > aboout him inly in the past few months. I recently learned that he had owned > a lot of propert on DeFauski Island near Hilton Head SC. > A light house was built there later and was called Haig Light House. I > understand that it is now a Bed and Breakfast. I wrote to someone there who > knew about Light houses. He explined why it was called Haig Light House. > Getting a lot of little pieces. i just need to find records on the > grandparents. > Thanks > Betty > > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Lots of holdings on Charleston County Families > South Carolina Historical Society > http://www.schistory.org >

Would anyone know the 1850 Federal Census page numbers for Saint Philip St., Charleston? Or, the approximate page numbers? I am going to look for my gg-grandfather Simon SCHERMER at #54 (east side of Saint Philip St.). Daniel Daniel J. Kortenkamp dkortenk@uwsp.edu http://www.uwsp.edu/acad/psych/dk/danielpg.htm

Thanks for the name on Robert. He would be the brother to my Gt. Grandfather, Alexander Richie Haig. Do you know how I could get in touch with the mesgne office you mentioned.? George Haig MD my gt. gt. gt.grandfather who owned a lot of property and 270 slaves had a home in Charleston and also in the Low Country had died in 1789. I have learned aboout him inly in the past few months. I recently learned that he had owned a lot of propert on DeFauski Island near Hilton Head SC. A light house was built there later and was called Haig Light House. I understand that it is now a Bed and Breakfast. I wrote to someone there who knew about Light houses. He explined why it was called Haig Light House. Getting a lot of little pieces. i just need to find records on the grandparents. Thanks Betty

Hi Bill Here are the years and the # 's ( KING ST ) 1790 threw 1801 17 KING William sr - William Jr - Eliz AXSON 1802 22 KING AXSON 1819 22 KING " 1822 43 KING " 1822 70 KING " 1825 49 KING " 1880 548 KING - Henry Behrens 1908 528 KING - Augusta Behrens THANKS, CJK

Mary Alice - I think the southwest corner of King and Queen is now a bank (or other commercial building )- that's based on memory from walking the block many times (but the last time I did that was 3 years ago when I lived in the area.) I have no idea what the numbers are on that building, but it is across the street from a parking garage that was built on the site of a Quaker meeting house and cemetery. The address of that parking garage is considered 136 King Street. Burns Lane is nearly an alley today. It runs parallel to Calhoun as you stated and serves as access to parking for some business on George Street (the next street South) and Calhoun. There might be a few buildings that have entrances on Burns, but it certainly is not highly trafficked. It's not exclusively a parking garage (or wasn't a few years ago and since it's in the historic district, I imagine it hasn't been converted completely either!). The Text for Guides of Historic Charleston says Burns Lane was also known in the early part of the 19th century as Blackbird Alley. It lists two address: 20 & 22 Burns Lane - built by the Horlbeck family before 1852. If your ancestor was a German Lutheran in the late 1700s, you might find information about him at St. John's Lutheran Church on Clifford and Archdale St. (if you haven't located church records about him). That church is only a few blocks from Queen & King and there are tombstones in the cemetery written in German. ----- Original Message ----- From: <MErwin114@aol.com> To: <SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 4:06 PM Subject: [SCCHARLE] St. Phillips Street/King Street Block Party > > > I have just "toured" King Street - and LOVED the photos, description of > homes, stores, etc. > > Had hoped to see a photo of southwest corner of KING STREET and QUEEN STREET. > What street number would this be today? > Is there a modern store on this site? > > Per the 1806 Charleston City Directory, my ancestor THOMAS SIGWALD was a > cabinet maker/furniture maker - located at this corner. > > Thomas was one of a group of German Lutheran craftsmen in post Revolutionary > war Charleston. > His brother-in-law Peter Mood was a silversmith - also on King Street - > address unknown. > > Thomas Sigwald's widow lived for many years on BURNS LANE - just south of > Boundary (now Calhoun) Street - between King and Meeting. > > Per Triple AAA Street Map, this block now seems to be a parking garage. > Is this true ?? > > Wonderful that so many of the historic homes have been saved - and fun to > tour them "on-line". > > Mary Alice > > > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Another 'MUST' for South Carolina genealogical research > South Carolina Department of Archives and History > http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/ >

I have just "toured" King Street - and LOVED the photos, description of homes, stores, etc. Had hoped to see a photo of southwest corner of KING STREET and QUEEN STREET. What street number would this be today? Is there a modern store on this site? Per the 1806 Charleston City Directory, my ancestor THOMAS SIGWALD was a cabinet maker/furniture maker - located at this corner. Thomas was one of a group of German Lutheran craftsmen in post Revolutionary war Charleston. His brother-in-law Peter Mood was a silversmith - also on King Street - address unknown. Thomas Sigwald's widow lived for many years on BURNS LANE - just south of Boundary (now Calhoun) Street - between King and Meeting. Per Triple AAA Street Map, this block now seems to be a parking garage. Is this true ?? Wonderful that so many of the historic homes have been saved - and fun to tour them "on-line". Mary Alice

Betty - I was looking for the 77 King Street address for another lister (It's not in my book, by the way), and on the same page is a listing for Robert Haig - 82 KIng St. It says he contracted with a carpenter in 1786 to have this two story frame house built. (Don't know if the address was 82 King at the time it was built - probably not). Unfortunately, the Text book for Guides of Historic Charleston does not have an index, so there really isn't any way to look at it other than by address. It's a looseleaf typescript and has not been otherwise published to my knowledge. Don't know if he's related to you or not, but thought I'd pass it along. I looked through the few other Charleston books I have and there is no other mention of Haig in any of the indexes. If he owned lots of property, there must be deeds for him. They would be available at the mesne conveyance office. I don't know if anyone there would copy them for you or not. They have good indexes to those early records, so perhaps they can identify someone who could check those out. Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: <PSI4E@aol.com> To: <SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 13, 2000 12:17 PM Subject: Re: [SCCHARLE] Re: SCCHARLE-D Digest V00 #80 > Hi Pat, Do you know in the Charleston Book that you have if it has anything > on George Haig . He died in 1789 and is burried in St. Andrews cemetery. I > understand that he was involved with a lot of meetings at St. Andrews, He > owned a lot of property in Charleston and did a lot of work for the city and > counties., but, I just can not put my hands on any information about him. His > father was also George Haig who was a surveyer in Charleston on Ninty Six > Cherokee Trail. He was murdered by the Senneca Indians in 1748. I just > would like to find some printed documents. > Thanks > Betty > > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Be sure to visit the Charleston County SC Genealogy Site > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lake/3577 >

You can check this out for people buried in Magnolia. Bill http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Lake/3577/charlestonmagnoliacemrec.html

Hi Pat, Do you know in the Charleston Book that you have if it has anything on George Haig . He died in 1789 and is burried in St. Andrews cemetery. I understand that he was involved with a lot of meetings at St. Andrews, He owned a lot of property in Charleston and did a lot of work for the city and counties., but, I just can not put my hands on any information about him. His father was also George Haig who was a surveyer in Charleston on Ninty Six Cherokee Trail. He was murdered by the Senneca Indians in 1748. I just would like to find some printed documents. Thanks Betty

Hi , I know someone else asked you about King St. I had great grandparents who lived at the corner of Tradd and King. This corner house faced the direction of Broad and King. I do not know if the address would be listed as being on Tradd St. or King St. Ths house is still there and is painted yellow.Directly across the street lived a Mr. Samuel Wainwright This house is listed as 77 King St. I was there for a short time last summer. I took pictures of both of these houses. One of the pictures of 77 King had a plaque on it which gave the persons name and address. I never thought to look at the time at the address of my gt. grandparentsat the time. Now that Elizabeth has brought the great idea of the block party, I would like to be in on one for Tradd or King. Woould you check the book you have and see if you have an address for that corner? I know that the family was living there in 1889 until at least 1915. I do not know how much before that. Appreciate any help on this Betty

In 1788, Church Street had essentially the same boundaries as it does today. It runs from the Market area to the Battery. It had lots of houses and was primarily residential at that time. According to the Fraser book, Charleston!, Charleston!, the South Carolina Society was formed 'about 1751 by artisans of French Huguenot descent who renamed their "Two-Bitt" Club the SC Society,. Among its goals were 'relieving the wants and miseries' of the poor. They believed also in promoting the welfare and happiness of one another which they did at their meeting places, first at Jacob Woolford's Broad Street Tavern and later at Joel Poinsett's Tavern on Elliott Street opposite Bedon's Alley. At each meeting the steward of the society was to see that no member was 'disguised in liquor' and that the behavior of the members was decent, peaceable. (From page 56 with a footnote to Samuel A. Lilly, The Culture of Revolutionary Charleston (PH.D. dissertation, Miami University 1972 pp 8-10; James H. Easterby, The Rules of the South Carolina Society (Baltimore, MD, 1937), 12-21, 26, 29, 30-32, 94: James H. Easterby, History of the St. Andrew's Society of Charleston, SC 1729-1929 (Charleston SC 1929) 21, 30,34). Same book, page 114- "In 1766 leading partisans petitioned for the incorporation of the Fellowship Society, believing that, despite the efforts of several charitable agencies, there were still 'poor distressed persons' who suffered from lack of food, lodging, and a hospital. Edward Weyman the upholsterer, Daniel Cannon the carpenter and developer, and George Flagg the artist were among the first officers of the Fellowship Society. Closer to those at the 'bottom' of society, they recognized and knew better the needs of the poor than the rich elite. They were prominent members of Gadsden's Liberty Boys, and like him they realized that the policy of 'arbitrary governments... falls heaviest upon men who have little, ' men like artisans and common laborers who 'depend... upon their daily labour... for the maintenance of themselves and families." Pat ----- Original Message ----- From: The Kelly Family <kkelly@ipns.com> To: <SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, May 12, 2000 6:33 PM Subject: [SCCHARLE] Re: SCCHARLE-D Digest V00 #80 > Hello Pat! > > Any chance your 1788 map includes any information on Church St. My > ancestor James BENTHAM lived at 47 Church St. in 1790. In 1783 he was > a church warden of St. Phillip's. By 1802, he was living 39 Bay > street. > > A reference to him says 'one of the quorum'. Does anyone have an idea > what this means? At various times he was listed as being a menber of > the Mt. Zion Society (1780) and warden of the Fellowship Society > (1793). Does anyone have information about these groups or know where I > might find anything? > > Another notation says he joined the South Carolina Society and served as > Constable in1778. I had assumed the reference was to his social > standing - but was this another organized "society" of some sort. Any > clues would be appreciated. > > Linda > > > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Another 'MUST' for South Carolina genealogical research > South Carolina Department of Archives and History > http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/ >

CJK; King St., I believe, was mostly businesses. Check the short history at the Historical WEB site at: http://www.ccpl.org/ccl/king_st_charlestowne.html) But, If you think it would be helpful, give me the year you want and I'll give you the names listed in Hagy's street directory. Bill CJK1043@aol.com wrote: > HI Bill , > Do you have a list like this for King St ? Showing all the # with the people > . > Thanks > CJK > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Lots of holdings on Charleston County Families > South Carolina Historical Society > http://www.schistory.org

HI Bill , Do you have a list like this for King St ? Showing all the # with the people . Thanks CJK