Re Charleston City Directories Many (not every year) are available on microfiche and microfilm - and can be ordered for a small postage fee through local Mormon Family History Centers. I am currently reviewing the 1882/83/84 city directories - all on one microfilm. The Mormon Church has also microfilmed various "typescripts" of Charleston cemetery inscriptions, church registers, etc. They are a wonderful resource for any researcher living outside the Charleston area. Mary Alice

John; Is there a volume similar to the Hagy series that can be purchased? I live in Kansas. Thanks. Bill John Bowen III wrote: > Bill Nell wrote: > > > Welcome to the St. Philips Street Party, John. > > I have many relatives on this street. Frank Stillson lived at 85 St. > > Philips in 1889. > > My street directory, by James Hagy, only goes to 1855. Are there street > > directories that can be obtained that cover later years? > > Thanks for sharing your family information. > > Bill Nell > > > > Bill > I believe so. I have used Charleston City directories located in the > SC Historical Society, Fireproof Building and Charleston Public Library > (now on Calhoun St) that go to 1876. > John > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > Another 'MUST' for South Carolina genealogical research > South Carolina Department of Archives and History > http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/

Can anyone tell me how to find a cemetery listing for the old First Baptist Church in Charleston? Thanks.

Bill Nell wrote: > Welcome to the St. Philips Street Party, John. > I have many relatives on this street. Frank Stillson lived at 85 St. > Philips in 1889. > My street directory, by James Hagy, only goes to 1855. Are there street > directories that can be obtained that cover later years? > Thanks for sharing your family information. > Bill Nell > Bill I believe so. I have used Charleston City directories located in the SC Historical Society, Fireproof Building and Charleston Public Library (now on Calhoun St) that go to 1876. John

Try the Registrar of Mesne Conveyances in Charleston. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: <CJK1043@aol.com> To: <SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: August 13, 2000 2:44 AM Subject: [SCCHARLE] Property Records > Hi, > > Can any one tell me how to go about getting property records ? > Where would I search for these records ? > I am trying to track down property records for 490 & 492 Meeting Street. > and 528 King / 548 King . > Hope some one can point me in the right direction to find these records. > > Thanks for any help, > CJK1043@aol.com > > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > > >

CJK; Property records can be found at: The Register of Mesne and Conveyance 2 Court House Square Room 201 Bill Nell CJK1043@aol.com wrote: > Hi, > > Can any one tell me how to go about getting property records ? > Where would I search for these records ? > I am trying to track down property records for 490 & 492 Meeting Street. > and 528 King / 548 King . > Hope some one can point me in the right direction to find these records. > > Thanks for any help, > CJK1043@aol.com > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ====

Hi, Can any one tell me how to go about getting property records ? Where would I search for these records ? I am trying to track down property records for 490 & 492 Meeting Street. and 528 King / 548 King . Hope some one can point me in the right direction to find these records. Thanks for any help, CJK1043@aol.com

Thanks so much for the address!! Glo

Hi Glo, Here you go. http://www.heritagelib.org/Collection/ ----- Original Message ----- From: <GMarquis@aol.com> To: <SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2000 3:18 PM Subject: Re: [SCCHARLE] Visiting Charleston-PRINCE/Marco/Hyams/Humes > Would the person who sent the internet address for the Hilton Head library > please resend it? I was trying to click the "keep" button and accidentally > hit "delete"..... > Thanks! > Glo Marquis > > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > >

Would the person who sent the internet address for the Hilton Head library please resend it? I was trying to click the "keep" button and accidentally hit "delete"..... Thanks! Glo Marquis

Welcome to the St. Philips Street Party, John. I have many relatives on this street. Frank Stillson lived at 85 St. Philips in 1889. My street directory, by James Hagy, only goes to 1855. Are there street directories that can be obtained that cover later years? Thanks for sharing your family information. Bill Nell John Bowen III wrote: > This is a multi-part message in MIME format. > --------------BEE132AB2806A77841D224F0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > --------------BEE132AB2806A77841D224F0 > Content-Type: message/rfc822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > Content-Disposition: inline > > X-Mozilla-Status2: 00000000 > Message-ID: <398DE8E0.DC5CEAE6@earthlink.net> > Date: Sun, 06 Aug 2000 15:38:25 -0700 > From: John Bowen III <jbowe3@earthlink.net> > X-Mailer: Mozilla 4.7 [en] (Win98; U) > X-Accept-Language: en > MIME-Version: 1.0 > To: CHARLE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: St Phillip St Party > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > > Hi > I just subscribed and am not clear whether I > qualify to be invited (a particular block or > particular time frame). > I have following ancestors who lived on St Phillip Street. > > John Henry RENNEKER, 145 (1850 Census Index) > Louisa Catherine (nee WEYMAN) RENNEKER, wife > Frederick C. BLUM, near Morris (Chas City Directory 1859) > Dorothy E. (nee PASLAY) BLUM, wife > Frederick C. BLUM, 89 (Chas City Directory 1867 & 1875) > Clarence Crosby OLNEY, 89 (Chas City Direcory 1867 & 1889) > Louisa Catherine (nee BLUM) OLNEY, wife > Clarence Crosby OLNEY, 138 (Chas City Directory 1882) > Mr & Mrs R.B. GRICE 138 (family address book) > MR & Mrs W.B. GRICE 138 > > In 1899, a RENNEKER descendant married a > BLUM-OLNEY descendant. > > All were members of St John's Lutheran except > C.C. Olney who attended St Pauls Episcopal. > > Regards, John > > --------------BEE132AB2806A77841D224F0-- > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ====

Thanks for the lead Edward. Family lore says the we are related to either Carroll or Rutledge. Maybe this book will help me determine which. I ordered the book today. Bill "Edward L. Manigault" wrote: > List: > > I have been studying a book entitled "Signers of The Declaration of > Independence" by Della G. Barthelmas, printed by McFarland and Company, > 1997. It contains a lot of information not found in some of the more concise > books on the same subject and I can recommend it as a good source of general > information. > > However, I have found several instances of genealogical information for the > ancestors of Lewis Morris (of N.Y.), Arthur Middleton and Thomas Heyward > that confuse me. I am not about to say the book contains errors, but I do > have difficulty collating some of the information with what I have gathered > over many years. I have not yet done the Rutledge and Lynch biographies, so > I hope for improvement in my understanding with them. > > Has anyone else had similar difficulty? If you want to be specific, may I > suggest you could contact me directly, rather than on this "public" list? I > certainly don't want anyone to have legal problems. > > Am I being too careful? > > Edward > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ====

hello list im still looking for any info on my family; claude hill aka. jack owens b. feb.15,1931 in newark new jersey d.april 18 1997 in ny. birth parents claude & anna jackson hill,father born in charleston,SC abt.1904 mother georgia abt.1907. jack owens OTHER mother; mattie seabrook owens settles b. dec 1,1910 in charleston,sc d.jul 1985 in brooklyn ny.her parents were nicholas & anna harrison seabrook both from charleston sc.NO INFO ON FATHER. olympia bartholomew gill b.3 aug 1927 in trinidad,port of spain d.feb 26 1969.in brooklyn jewish hospital.birth parents were william bartholomew & ada long bartholomew. thank-you any info or suggestions will be apprieciated. crystal owens-keys adonte@hotmail.com ________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com

Charleston Public Library, Historical Society (both are down around Meeting and Calhoun St.), Mormon Church (which is on Sam Rittenburg Rd, if I'm not mistaken) also try Charleston Library Society on King St.

Edward, Thanks for the book reference. I am interested in the Lynch Biography. Hal in FL

Hi Edie, I found this place on the internet just today, you might want to check it out. It's The Heritage Library at Hilton Head. If you go, let me know what you think. I'm hoping to make a trip to Charleston next summer, and will have to pack alot of research into a few days. http://www.heritagelib.org/Collection/ Good Luck! Joanne ----- Original Message ----- From: <Emp4698@aol.com> To: <SCCHARLE-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 10, 2000 9:17 PM Subject: [SCCHARLE] Visiting Charleston-PRINCE/Marco/Hyams/Humes > Hi Folks, > > Well, I am off to Charleston Friday, the 18th of Aug. Taking my son to the > Citadel . Will be there thru Sunday evening. > > Would really appreciate it if someone could tell me the best places to do > genealogy research so I dont waste time hunting around. > > I have been thru the censuses so I dont need them..have access to them at the > NARA in Atlanta. > > I would like to find 1845-1860 marriage records, > death records thru 1865, > city directory for 1840-1865 > > the people I am interested in are Jewish....MARCO, HYAMS, HUMES , PRINCE and > ALEXANDER... > > Does anyone know if the synagogue has old records or if these are available > anywhere other than the synagogue in Charleston? > > Are any libraries or research facilities open on Sat and Sun? > Or open until midnite or 24 hours a day? Just kidding!! > > > I know there are two or three different families of HYAMS in Charleston at > the same time....1840, 1850.... I am not aware of them being related but > even their names are the same. > > Moses Hyams and Solomon Hyams are father and son I believe. 1840, 1850 > census, all born SC > > There is a Sarah PRINCE, born SC, who was 72 in 1850 and who had a daughter > named Rebecca. > > Then there is a much younger Sarah Prince also with a daughter named > Rebecca ....sometimes this Rebecca is just listed as Rebecca, other times she > is listed as Rebecca Hyams, so I know HER mother is MY Sarah Prince, not the > other one. > > MY line of HYAMS & PRINCE, etc are: > > > Descendants of Sarah (Maiden Name Unknown) HYAMS PRINCE > > 1 [1] Sarah UNKNOWN Born: 1818 in Poland Died: Sep 1865 > +Unknown HYAMS/HYMES Born: in England > ..... 2 Hyam A HYMES Born: 10 Mar 1828 in PORTSMOUTH, ENGLAND Died: > 5 Jan 1907 DARLINGTON, S,C, > ......... +Caroline Elizabeth RUGG Born: 10 Jan 1839 in Camden or > Darlington, S C Died: 19 Sep 1889 Darlington, SC/Old Meth Cem, Orange St. > Darlinton Father: Hiram H Rugg, Constable Of S.C. Mother: Keziah Ann Packer > > ..... 2 Henry HYMES Born: 1830 in England > ......... +Celestine/Christina? HUME(S) Born: 1836 in France > > ..... 2 Rebecca HYMES Born: 1842 Died: 10 Nov 1916 Moved to Darlington > from Charleston in 1863 Burial: NYC > ......... +Samuel MARCO Born: 1838 according to enlistment age > Died: 8 May 1909 NYC Father: Nathan/Newcomb Marco Mother: Wife Unknown > > *2nd Husband of [1] Sarah UNKNOWN: > .. +George PRINCE, Second Husband > ..... 2 Leah Louise PRINCE Died: living OUT of SC > ......... +Alex FINEBERG Died: living OUT of SC > ..... 2 Samuel PRINCE Born: Abt. 1836 in England > > Anyone recognize Leah Louise Prince her brother Samuel Prince or Alex > Fineberg? > > Thanks for taking time to read this and making suggestions! > Edie in Atlanta, Georgia, USA > > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ==== > >

List: I have been studying a book entitled "Signers of The Declaration of Independence" by Della G. Barthelmas, printed by McFarland and Company, 1997. It contains a lot of information not found in some of the more concise books on the same subject and I can recommend it as a good source of general information. However, I have found several instances of genealogical information for the ancestors of Lewis Morris (of N.Y.), Arthur Middleton and Thomas Heyward that confuse me. I am not about to say the book contains errors, but I do have difficulty collating some of the information with what I have gathered over many years. I have not yet done the Rutledge and Lynch biographies, so I hope for improvement in my understanding with them. Has anyone else had similar difficulty? If you want to be specific, may I suggest you could contact me directly, rather than on this "public" list? I certainly don't want anyone to have legal problems. Am I being too careful? Edward

Hi Folks, Well, I am off to Charleston Friday, the 18th of Aug. Taking my son to the Citadel . Will be there thru Sunday evening. Would really appreciate it if someone could tell me the best places to do genealogy research so I dont waste time hunting around. I have been thru the censuses so I dont need them..have access to them at the NARA in Atlanta. I would like to find 1845-1860 marriage records, death records thru 1865, city directory for 1840-1865 the people I am interested in are Jewish....MARCO, HYAMS, HUMES , PRINCE and ALEXANDER... Does anyone know if the synagogue has old records or if these are available anywhere other than the synagogue in Charleston? Are any libraries or research facilities open on Sat and Sun? Or open until midnite or 24 hours a day? Just kidding!! I know there are two or three different families of HYAMS in Charleston at the same time....1840, 1850.... I am not aware of them being related but even their names are the same. Moses Hyams and Solomon Hyams are father and son I believe. 1840, 1850 census, all born SC There is a Sarah PRINCE, born SC, who was 72 in 1850 and who had a daughter named Rebecca. Then there is a much younger Sarah Prince also with a daughter named Rebecca ....sometimes this Rebecca is just listed as Rebecca, other times she is listed as Rebecca Hyams, so I know HER mother is MY Sarah Prince, not the other one. MY line of HYAMS & PRINCE, etc are: Descendants of Sarah (Maiden Name Unknown) HYAMS PRINCE 1 [1] Sarah UNKNOWN Born: 1818 in Poland Died: Sep 1865 +Unknown HYAMS/HYMES Born: in England ..... 2 Hyam A HYMES Born: 10 Mar 1828 in PORTSMOUTH, ENGLAND Died: 5 Jan 1907 DARLINGTON, S,C, ......... +Caroline Elizabeth RUGG Born: 10 Jan 1839 in Camden or Darlington, S C Died: 19 Sep 1889 Darlington, SC/Old Meth Cem, Orange St. Darlinton Father: Hiram H Rugg, Constable Of S.C. Mother: Keziah Ann Packer ..... 2 Henry HYMES Born: 1830 in England ......... +Celestine/Christina? HUME(S) Born: 1836 in France ..... 2 Rebecca HYMES Born: 1842 Died: 10 Nov 1916 Moved to Darlington from Charleston in 1863 Burial: NYC ......... +Samuel MARCO Born: 1838 according to enlistment age Died: 8 May 1909 NYC Father: Nathan/Newcomb Marco Mother: Wife Unknown *2nd Husband of [1] Sarah UNKNOWN: .. +George PRINCE, Second Husband ..... 2 Leah Louise PRINCE Died: living OUT of SC ......... +Alex FINEBERG Died: living OUT of SC ..... 2 Samuel PRINCE Born: Abt. 1836 in England Anyone recognize Leah Louise Prince her brother Samuel Prince or Alex Fineberg? Thanks for taking time to read this and making suggestions! Edie in Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Beth All I have is A. Toomer Porter's autobiography, and I see no mention of MOORE in the introductory chapter; there is no index. Both maternal and paternal ancestors of Rev Porter (1828-1898) came south from New England. One branch of TOOMERs stopped in North Carolina. John Ashely2@aol.com wrote: > There are many Toomer's and Porter's in my Moore family line. My Moore relative, Gov James Moore of SC, was from Charleston. I'm wondering if there is a connection to the Toomer and Porter families you're mentioning. The Moore family later settled the Cape Fear area of NC, and married into the Ashe, Swann, Lillington and Hill families. > > Beth > > ==== SCCHARLE Mailing List ====

There are many Toomer's and Porter's in my Moore family line. My Moore relative, Gov James Moore of SC, was from Charleston. I'm wondering if there is a connection to the Toomer and Porter families you're mentioning. The Moore family later settled the Cape Fear area of NC, and married into the Ashe, Swann, Lillington and Hill families. Beth