Desperately seeking info on Stanley Albert HAMILTON b. 5/3/1897 Died 11/27/1956 in Charleston?? Lived and married Blanche BRADY who died about 1937 in Dillion. They had the following children who were placed in orphanages-- Mary Josephine, Herbert, Frances, and Albert Stanley all born in Marion County, S.C..(Dillion) WHO were the parents of Stanley Albert HAMILTON and where is he buried? Who were the parents of Blanche BRADY and where is she buried. Mary Josephine was sent to De La Howe home in McCormick S.C. but other were supposedly sent to oprhanage in F.L. after father abandoned them. Mary Josephine married a Manning Oneil ACKERMAN b. about 1920's who died in 1970-1971 in Charleston, s.c. Could someone do a lookup on the birth or death certificates for him, or Stanley Albert HAMILTON, or Blanche BRADY. Manning ACKERMAN also abandoned his children, and we have no information on any of the above except what is stated. Thanks so much dayle noble biba

>From: "Crystal" <adonte@hotmail.com> >Subject: look-up obit charleston,s.c >Date: Sun, 30 Jul 2000 20:43:10 -0500 > >hello to all you very kind and helpful vounteers, could you help me,and >look and see if this obit can be found > >looking for WILHELMINA E.SMITH born may 29,1914 in charleston.sc died 19 >sep 1994 in (queens,st.albans ny) daughter of WILLIAM M.SMITH. > >thanks for all your help. >crystal owens keys >adonte@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com.

> > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Edward L. Manigault" <Edward@Fuse.net> > > > I have Anne as the first of two wives for John Horry, the second being Anne Proctor. Age 31 was a "little" late for John to marry the first time. Was there, perhaps, an earlier wife before Anne Robert? Edward and others Now I am confused. I also have 2 wives for John HORRY, Ann ROYER and Anne ROBERT. I show children from ROYER. Could they be the same person, Anne ROBERT ?. I show: 1-John HORRY (1709-10 Apr 1770) sp: Ann ROYER (-Jan 1776) 2-Peter HORRY (13 Mar 1742-28 Feb 1815) sp: Margaret Mary GUIGNARD (-17 Apr 1817) sp: BAXTER (-18 Oct 1791) 2-Hugh HORRY (1744-8 Sep 1795) 2-Jonah HORRY (1746-14 May 1812) sp: Sarah BURNET (1760-Oct 1793) sp: Lucretia SARRAZIN (Mar 1752-8 Oct 1835) 2-John HORRY (1748-10 May 1774) sp: Anne ROBERT (abt 1725-) Should I add Ann PROCTOR ? Bye-the -way, thank all of you for the education on the ROBERTS line. I am away for a week, but will reply on my return. Frost Prioleau Piedmont, CA hfrost@prioleau.com

I received the following from another genealogy list that I am on, and thought it worth forwarding. Judy ----- Original Message ----- Subj: Genealogy scam Date: 09/03/2000 6:30:57 AM Mountain Daylight Time From: plfleming@shelbynet.net (Phyllis Fleming) I received this message after it was forwarded to the INGENWEB state coordinator: About 2 weeeks ago we received a complaint from an Archives submitter that her materials were found on a genealogy subscription service: www.familydiscovery.com The submitter was able to do a little digging and found that they were linking to her files housed on her server, but shrink-wrapped inside a frame so it appears to be THEIR work. About 10 days ago, to investigate this, I signed up with familydiscovery. To date, I have not received a user id or password to get inside. The registered owners of the web site gave bogus telephone numbers in their registration. One number goes to a recorded message line; the other to a carpet company. Some of the e-mail adds on their web site bounce. Standing on the outside and looking through the window, it appears that several folks' web sites have been prize-mined: http://www.familydiscovery.com/whatsnew.htm The Storey Co., IA and the Washington Co., PA stuff seem to come from USGenWeb sites. Some of the other IA and NC stuff seems to come from non-USGW sites. None of the materials seem to be housed at either rootsweb or usgennet. If anyone out there is or has been a member of familydiscovery -- or has been ripped off by them, I ["Joy Fisher" jfisher@ucla.edu>] would like to hear from you. Permission is granted to forward this message. =-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-= wally@calweb.com

Betty: I hope this helps at least a little. It appears we are both descended from Nicholas Maham, you through Hezekiah and I through his sister, Elizabeth, whose daughter, Elizabeth Cook, married Joshua John Ward, my ggg grandfather. Does it contain anyone in your line beyond Mary Maham and George Haig? I have not had good luck finding information on the Haig family. Can you help in that regard? I have sent this to the list hoping that it also might be of use to someone else. Can anyone help fill out this line? Anyone have earlier Mahams? Edward Manigault Descendants of Nicholas Maham Generation No. 1 1. NICHOLAS1 MAHAM was born Abt. 1720. Children of NICHOLAS MAHAM are: 2. i. HEZEKIAH (COL.)2 MAHAM, b. 1739, St. Stephans Parish, S.C.; d. 1789, (Will d. Apr. 4,1789-pr. Nov. 19, 1789). ii. DOROTHEA MAHAM, b. Abt. 1740; m. UNKNOWN (MR.) LEIGHTON. 3. iii. ELIZABETH MAHAM, b. Abt. 1740. iv. HENRY MAHAM, b. Abt. 1740. Generation No. 2 2. HEZEKIAH (COL.)2 MAHAM (NICHOLAS1) was born 1739 in St. Stephans Parish, S.C., and died 1789. (Will d. Apr. 4,1789-pr. Nov. 19, 1789). He married MARY PALMER. She was born Abt. 1743, and died January 16, 1784 in North Carolina. Notes for HEZEKIAH (COL.) MAHAM: He was a commander of horse in Marion's Brigade and Lt. Col. in an independant corps of cavalry by the authority of Gen. Green. He was reported to be "a despotic and high-tempered man", but "an ardent patriot and a brave officer" ( "Ravenel Records" 1898) Children of HEZEKIAH MAHAM and MARY PALMER are: i. ANN3 MAHAM, b. Abt. 1760; m. (1) JOHN WATIES, Abt. 1780, Marriage and date in question; b. Abt. 1758; d. 1789, (after April 4, 1789, based on will of Hezekiah Maham).; m. (2) ROBERT SMITH, Abt. 1790, (date estimated); b. Abt. 1759; d. 1852, Charleston, S.C... 4. ii. MARY MAHAM, b. Abt. 1765, S.C.; d. Bef. 1798, (date?). 3. ELIZABETH2 MAHAM (NICHOLAS1) was born Abt. 1740. She married JOHN COOK. He was born Abt. 1740. Children of ELIZABETH MAHAM and JOHN COOK are: 5. i. ELIZABETH3 COOK, b. Bet. 1773 - 1774; d. Abt. May 02, 1829, (burial date) @ 55 years. Waccamaw, S.C.. 6. ii. MARY CHARLOTTE COOKE, b. Abt. 1768. Generation No. 3 4. MARY3 MAHAM (HEZEKIAH (COL.)2, NICHOLAS1) was born Abt. 1765 in S.C., and died Bef. 1798 (date?). She married (1) SAMUEL (DR.) WILSON October 01, 1796. He was born January 24, 1763, and died March 14, 1827. She married (2) GEORGE (REP.) HAIG July 17, 1785 in Charleston, S.C., son of GEORGE HAIG and ELIZABETH WATSON. He was born Abt. 1743 in Charleston, S.C., and died 1790. Notes for SAMUEL (DR.) WILSON: See other(?) Samuel Wilson married to other(?) Mary Mazyck, May 14, 1816. Same persons? Notes for GEORGE (REP.) HAIG: S.C House of Rep. Child of MARY MAHAM and GEORGE HAIG is: 7. i. HEZEKIAH MAHAM4 HAIG, b. Abt. 1787. 5. ELIZABETH3 COOK (ELIZABETH2 MAHAM, NICHOLAS1) was born Bet. 1773 - 1774, and died Abt. May 02, 1829 in (burial date) @ 55 years. Waccamaw, S.C.. She married (1) CHARLES WESTON Abt. 1795, son of PLOWDEN WESTON and ALICE HOLLYBUSH. He was born Abt. 1771 in S.C., and died 1798. She married (2) JOSHUA (MAJ.) WARD 1798, son of JOHN WARD and LOVE LEGER. He was born October 1768 in Charleston, S.C., and died July 04, 1828 in (age 59y,9m.) Brookgreen Plantation, S.C.. Notes for JOSHUA (MAJ.) WARD: He came into the possession of Brookgreen Plantation after the death of William Allston. A letter from Allard Flagg in 1887 says that Benjamin Allston sold Brookgreen to Joshua Ward (of Charleston ) in the 1790's. Joshua then sold it to his nephew, Joshua Ward,(son of his brother, John). This second Joshua Ward's son, Joshua John was the one who developed Brookgreen to its most productive level and reportedly named it. Children of ELIZABETH COOK and CHARLES WESTON are: 8. i. ALICE ANN4 WESTON, b. 1796; d. March 1862, Columbia, S.C.. ii. JOHN HOLLYBUSH WESTON, b. Abt. 1797. Children of ELIZABETH COOK and JOSHUA WARD are: 9. iii. CATHERINE JONES4 WARD, b. February 23, 1799, Brookgreen, Waccamaw, S.C.; d. May 11, 1866. 10. iv. JOSHUA JOHN (LT. GOV.) (COL.) WARD, b. November 24, 1800, Brookgreen Plantation, S.C.; d. February 27, 1853, Brookgreen Plantation, S.C.. v. ELIZABETH COOK WARD, b. Abt. 1801. vi. MARY LEIGHTON WARD, b. 1802; d. 1806. vii. MAYHAM COOK WARD, b. 1811; d. June 09, 1833, (bur. date)@ 21 years, 5 months. Waccamaw, S.C.. Notes for MAYHAM COOK WARD: Died of "bilious inflamatory fever".. 6. MARY CHARLOTTE3 COOKE (ELIZABETH2 MAHAM, NICHOLAS1) was born Abt. 1768. She married BENJAMIN "SR." ALLSTON Abt. 1788, son of JOSIAS ALLSTON and ANN PROCTOR. He was born October 06, 1765 in S.C., and died November 26, 1847. Child of MARY COOKE and BENJAMIN ALLSTON is: 11. i. MARTHA HAYES4 ALLSTON, b. August 1789, S. C.; d. March 10, 1869. Generation No. 4 7. HEZEKIAH MAHAM4 HAIG (MARY3 MAHAM, HEZEKIAH (COL.)2, NICHOLAS1) was born Abt. 1787. He married AGNES RICHIE. She was born Abt. 1789. Child of HEZEKIAH HAIG and AGNES RICHIE is: i. ALEXANDER RICHIE5 HAIG, b. Abt. 1810; d. Abt. September 1855; m. ANNE MARR; b. Abt. 1810. 8. ALICE ANN4 WESTON (ELIZABETH3 COOK, ELIZABETH2 MAHAM, NICHOLAS1) was born 1796, and died March 1862 in Columbia, S.C.. She married BENJAMIN HUGER RUTLEDGE Abt. 1820, son of HUGH RUTLEDGE and SARAH SMITH. He was born Abt. 1786. Child of ALICE WESTON and BENJAMIN RUTLEDGE is: i. BENJAMIN HUGER (COL.)5 RUTLEDGE, b. Abt. 1825; m. ELEANOR MARIA MIDDLETON, Aft. 1846; b. 1831; d. Aft. October 11, 1865, (living at mother's death).. Notes for BENJAMIN HUGER (COL.) RUTLEDGE: C.S.A.. 9. CATHERINE JONES4 WARD (ELIZABETH3 COOK, ELIZABETH2 MAHAM, NICHOLAS1) was born February 23, 1799 in Brookgreen, Waccamaw, S.C., and died May 11, 1866. She married JOSEPH PYATT LABRUCE May 06, 1819 in All Saints Church, Waccamaw, S.C., son of JOHN LABRUCE and MARTHA PAWLEY. He was born 1792, and died March 14, 1827. Children of CATHERINE WARD and JOSEPH LABRUCE are: i. JOHN FRANCIS5 LABRUCE, b. Abt. March 11, 1820, Waccamaw, S.C.; d. January 20, 1877, @56y 10m 8d. Oak Hill Plantation,Waccamaw, S.C.; m. SELINA POYAS MORTIMER, March 16, 1848; b. 1830, Charleston, S.C.; d. February 01, 1863, Oak Hill plantation, Waccamaw,S.C.. Notes for JOHN FRANCIS LABRUCE: of "Oak Hill" plantation Pawleys Island, and Charleston, S.C. ii. JOSHUA WARD LABRUCE, b. 1823, Waccamaw, S.C.; d. 1884, Age 60 years. Waccamaw, S.C.; m. ELIZABETH CHRISTINA HAZELHURST, Bef. 1845; b. June 02, 1824; d. April 25, 1894, (or Oct.13, 1893 in the great storm).. Notes for JOSHUA WARD LABRUCE: Of Oak Hill Plantation.. 10. JOSHUA JOHN (LT. GOV.) (COL.)4 WARD (ELIZABETH3 COOK, ELIZABETH2 MAHAM, NICHOLAS1) was born November 24, 1800 in Brookgreen Plantation, S.C., and died February 27, 1853 in Brookgreen Plantation, S.C.. He married JOANNA DOUGLAS HASELL March 14, 1825 in S.C., daughter of GEORGE HASELL and PENELOPE BENTLEY. She was born June 04, 1805 in Edinburgh, Scotland, and died December 14, 1878 in Charleston, S.C.,. Notes for JOSHUA JOHN (LT. GOV.) (COL.) WARD: Educated University of Edinburgh, Scotland, where (it is presumed) he met his wife, Joanna. He originated the golden large grain rice at Brookgreen plantation that enriched him and many other coastal South Carolina rice planters. In 1850 his plantations harvested 3,900,000 pounds of rice with the labor of 1052 slaves. Member of the State Legislature. State Senator 1842-1850. Lt. Governor 1850 and active in numerous other public, social, religious, and fraternal organizations. In addition to Brookgreen, which he named and owned, he owned Springfield, Alderly, Oryzantia, Prospect Hill, and Longwood plantations (at one time or another), two summer homes, land on Rose Hill and Clifton islands, and ten acres on Pawley's Island. The well-known Pawleys Island rope hammock was designed by his descendant, Joshua John Ward Joshua John reportedly died from "an attack of paralysis". Children of JOSHUA WARD and JOANNA HASELL are: i. PENELOPE BENTLEY5 WARD, b. 1826, S.C.; d. June 20, 1859, Waccamaw, S.C.; m. ALLARD BELIN SR. FLAGG, January 16, 1850, All Saints Church, Waccamaw, S.C.; b. June 10, 1823, Cedar Hill, S.C.; d. May 26, 1901, Waccamaw, S.C.. Notes for ALLARD BELIN SR. FLAGG: M.D. ii. JOSHUA (COL.) WARD, b. December 14, 1827, Brookgreen Plantation, S.C.; d. December 07, 1867, Charleston, S.C.,; m. (1) ELIZABETH RYAN MORTIMER, May 06, 1852, Charleston, S.C.,; b. June 28, 1832, S.C.; d. January 04, 1865, Stuttgart, Germany; m. (2) CONSTANTIA WARING MORTIMER, September 06, 1866, Newberry, S.C.; b. Aft. 1836; d. May 23, 1870. Notes for JOSHUA (COL.) WARD: Joshua was a Captain in Ward's Light Artillery, South Carolina Volunteers. He entered service at Camp Weston, S.C. January 20, 1862, and was paroled in 1863-1864 because of ill health. Just barely avoiding capture by Federal forces approaching Brook Green, he put his family on a stern-wheeler river boat named "Pilot Boy", mis-directing pursuers by saying they were going to Winyah Bay and then up the Pee Dee River (North) to Marlboro County. Instead, they left for Europe on the sailing ship "Asia", running the blockade in July, 1864, and arrived in Liverpool July 31, 1864. Ward's Battery of Artillery, South Carolina Volunteers (SCV), was mustered into Confederate service by Col. A.M. Manigault at Camp Weston, All Saint's Parish, Waccamaw, Jan. 20, 1862. Joshua Ward was captain; Mayham Ward was 1st Lieutenant; P.R. Lachicott was Jr. 1st Lieutenant; J. J. Wortham was 2nd Lieutenant. It was attached to the 10th Regiment, S.C.V., and at the reorganization in April 1862, it was detached from the 10th Regiment and thereafter served as an independent battery. The company was made up of men from Georgetown and Horry Counties. They were assigned to the duty of protecting the salt works along the ocean front where salt was obtained by evaporating sea water. They had several clashes with Federal troops landed from ships. Notes for ELIZABETH RYAN MORTIMER: Buried in Stuttgart, Germany. Judging by date of her death and that of her infant son, Andrew, she may have died from complications following childbirth. Since the three older children were listed on their father's French passport and Andrew was not, we may assume he was born after the family reached their destination (Stuttgart) shown on the passport. Notes for CONSTANTIA WARING MORTIMER: Col. Joshua Ward's second wife, and half-sister of his first wife, Elizabeth. iii. JOANNA WARD, b. May 01, 1831, Brookgreen Plantation, Waccamaw, S.C.; d. June 02, 1882, S. C.; m. JOSEPH BENJAMIN PYATT, April 18, 1850, All Saints Church, Waccamaw, S.C.; b. May 08, 1820, S. C.; d. July 28, 1910. Notes for JOSEPH BENJAMIN PYATT: Of "Rosemont" Black River plantation, "Colly Hill" at Fletcher, N.C., and Georgetown. Winyah Indigo Society. iv. GEORGEANA WARD, b. August 09, 1833; d. October 13, 1893; m. ARTHUR BELIN SR. FLAGG, November 21, 1854, All Saints Church, Waccamaw, S.C.; b. September 01, 1828, Charleston, S.C.; d. October 13, 1893. Notes for GEORGEANA WARD: Drowned in the hurricane at Magnolia Beach, S.C. Notes for ARTHUR BELIN SR. FLAGG: M.D. He drowned in hurricane at Magnolia Beach, S.C. with his wife, son, Arthur B., daughter-in-law, Martha la Bruce, and five of their children. The account of this tragedy was recounted by his son, Joshua John Ward Flagg who was with his family when they were drowned. The hurricane has since been referred to locally as "The Flagg Storm". Dr. Flagg's body was found on the 15th of Oct. v. CATHERINE WARD, b. September 18, 1835, Waccamaw, S.C.; d. February 26, 1862; m. LEWIS CRUGER (DR.) HASELL; b. December 28, 1830, Pendleton, S.C.; d. July 24, 1889, Waccamaw, S.C.. Notes for LEWIS CRUGER (DR.) HASELL: M.D. In 1869 he leased, then later (1870) bought "Brook Green" Plantation for $10,000 from Florence, Samuel Mortimer, and Joanna Hasell Ward, the heirs of his former brother-in-law, Colonel Joshua Ward (d.1867). vi. MAYHAM (CAPT.) WARD, b. December 19, 1837; d. Abt. February 19, 1866, Georgetown,S.C.; m. FLORENCE LEE; b. Abt. 1840. Notes for MAYHAM (CAPT.) WARD: CSA. Hot and Hot Fish Club. vii. BENJAMIN HUGER WARD, b. January 23, 1840; d. Bef. April 20, 1903, (bur. date) Waccamaw, S.C.; m. JANE MCCRADY SPARKMAN, Bef. 1873, All Saints Church, Waccamaw, S.C.; b. Bef. 1857; d. Bef. January 31, 1897, (burial date) Waccamaw, S.C... viii. ALICE RUTLEDGE WARD, b. February 16, 1844, Waccamaw, S.C.; d. Bef. February 22, 1905, (bur. date) Waccamaw, S.C.; m. BENTLEY WESTON, July 13, 1865, All Saints Church, Waccamaw, S.C.; b. April 12, 1842, Waccamaw, S.C.; d. Abt. February 02, 1883, (Burial date Feb. 4) Waccamaw, S.C.. ix. ANNE ALLSTON WARD, b. February 27, 1846; d. 1880. x. MARGARET BENTLEY WARD, b. October 03, 1849, S.C.; d. 1895; m. FRANCIS PEYRE (DR.) PORCHER, Abt. 1879; b. 1824, (1825?) S.C.; d. 1895. 11. MARTHA HAYES4 ALLSTON (MARY CHARLOTTE3 COOKE, ELIZABETH2 MAHAM, NICHOLAS1) was born August 1789 in S. C., and died March 10, 1869. She married JOHN FRANCIS PYATT June 02, 1812. He was born 1791 in S. C., and died September 09, 1820 in (Bur. date) Georgetown, S.C.. Notes for JOHN FRANCIS PYATT: of "Oatland" plantation and Charleston. Winyah Indigo Society. Children of MARTHA ALLSTON and JOHN PYATT are: i. JOHN FRANCIS5 PYATT, b. August 15, 1817, S. C.; d. October 19, 1884; m. HARRIET NOWELL, December 08, 1857, S. C.; b. October 23, 1829; d. December 15, 1869. Notes for JOHN FRANCIS PYATT: of "Kensington" Black River plantation, White's Bridge summer resort, Charleston, and Georgetown. Winyah Indigo Society. ii. JOSEPH BENJAMIN PYATT, b. May 08, 1820, S. C.; d. July 28, 1910; m. JOANNA WARD, April 18, 1850, All Saints Church, Waccamaw, S.C.; b. May 01, 1831, Brookgreen Plantation, Waccamaw, S.C.; d. June 02, 1882, S. C.. Notes for JOSEPH BENJAMIN PYATT: Of "Rosemont" Black River plantation, "Colly Hill" at Fletcher, N.C., and Georgetown. Winyah Indigo Society..

Hi Joy, Hope I am sending this e-mail the correct way. You have listed some men of Marion listed under P and R. I have recently learned that my 5th Great Grandfather Maham was the Col of a Calvary under Marion. He was responsible for building a tower by Ft. Watson at night and putting men up there and then shooting at the British during the day. This was taken from A book that I got called Rambling Through Berkley. His daughter had married my 4th Gt Grandfather that I have been researching name George Haig. Would you have any listings for Col,Maham or Haigs? or any suggstions where i could look? Thanks so much Betty

In a message dated 09/03/2000 2:17:59 PM Eastern Daylight Time, EUZELIA@aol.com writes: << John Roberts Q 214 John Roberts X 140 Lewis Roberts N 259 Stephen Roberts Y 165 >> Thanks Joy!!!! I know definately these are mine! :) Judy Roberts

Hi, I noticed the talk about Peter Roberts. I also noticed one on this list today. This is from the SC list for those of you that are not members. Joy N.C.O. and Privates Aaron Prescot V 244 James Prevat Y 252 William Price U 538 Evan Pugh N 617 Alexander Purvis N 631 Gilbert Purvis N 632 William Purvis N 633 John Pyatt P 470 John Raburn Gregg 412 John Ragin Q 208 Michael Rasher Gregg 412 John Rasberry Gregg 412 John Rawlinson Gregg 412 Alexander Ray X 879 John Rayfield Q 573 Murray Reed Q 572 Matthew Reed S 11 Ephriam Roose X 882 Lazarus Reeves X 143 Jesse Register Y 559 Joseph Reid S 9 George Reid Q 345 Isaac Rembert P 478 Joseph Reynolds Q 209 James Rice X 282 Henry Richborough V 285 James Richborough P 116 William Richborough P 116 John Ricks S 300 Richard Ridgill P 482 William Ridgill V 281 Patrick Riley V 648 John Ritchie U 341 Frederick Rivers Gregg 412 Thomas Roach Y 160 William Roan Gregg 412 Amos Roberts Y 164 John Roberts Q 214 John Roberts X 140 Lewis Roberts N 259 Stephen Roberts Y 165 Peter Robert ?(s) V 370 Philip Roberts Gregg 412 Roger Roberts N 262 John Robison V 280 William Robinson S 19 Andrew Roe N 263 Solomon Roe N 264 Walter Roe Q 260 Edward Rogers Y 144 Nathaniel Rodgers Bod 117 William Rodgers Y 1257 Andrew Rogers X 287 David Rogers Q 218 James Robertson Y 163 John Rochell Y 162

Edward, I have to agree, either Marie Petremand's birth date is wrong or their wedding date is wrong. I would be inclined to think that it might be her birthdate, it was only estimated to begin with. As for Guillaume Robert's father, I don't know. I have not been able to go back any farther from Guillaume, so your Jehan and Humbert could be correct. From what I have read in papers of the Huguenot Society, this family moved around due to religious persecution, ( depending on who was king at the time.) I feel they originated in Normandy, but I have no proof of that. Daniel is the only one I have that is listed as being born in Wales, the other generations are in Switzerland, untill the Reverend Pierre came to Charleston. This exchange has been good for me LOL, got the old gray matter working again. I would appreciate it if you would share with me whatever you may find in the future, and I will do the same. Thanks, Judy << Judy: Sorry, I do not recall the source of Jehan and Humbert, reported to be the grandfather and father respectively, of Guillaume Robert. I have the feeling it may be from J. B. de Saussure who lives in France and has a lot of Huguenot lines from both France and Switzerland. Whoever it was, they had Daniel b. 1625 in Switzerland and married April 1, 1651, in Switzerland to Marie Petremand. If they were married in Wales in 1653, I rather doubt that she was born about 1645. Did they both flee to Wales and later return to Switzerland? Do you have other names for Guillaume's father and grandfather? Edward >>

Hi back at'cha, I hope you kept the information that I posted yesterday because we have a common ancestor in the Rev. Pierre Robert and his wife Jeanne Braye who sailed to Charleston, SC landing in 1686. I don't know what info you are looking for, so here I am giving you your line from early to forward. Hope this is what you wanted. I am posting this to the list as well in case there is someone else who is researching this line. Rev. Pierre Robert, b. 1656 St Imier, Switzerland, d. 1715 French Santee, married Jeannne Braye, b. 1660 Basil, Switzerland their children were: 1. * Pierre Jr. b. 1675 Basil, Switzerland, d. 1731 French Santee, SC 2. Elias, b. 1679, Basil, Switzerland 3. Jeanne, b. 1681, Basil, Switzerland 4. Jean (John), b. 1687 French Santee, SC (my hubby's ancestor) *Pierre Robert Jr. b. 1675 Basil, Switzerland, d. 1731 French Santee, SC. married Judith Burdeaux Videau, b. 1680 ??, d. 1731 French Santee, SC their children were: 1. * Jacque James de Burdeux Robert, b. 4-3-1711 French Santee, d. Nov. 1774 Yemassee (SC?) 2. Elizabeth, b. 1716 French Santee, d. 1758 French Santee. She married Elias Jaudon, b. 1715 Councelor, Providence of Carolina. 3. Magdalene, b. 1719, married Archibald Hamilton. * Jacque James de Burdeux, b. 4-3-1711, French Santee, d. Nov. 1774 Yemassee (SC?), married on 8-26-1735 in French Santee to Sarah Jaudon, b. 9-24-1719, French Santee, d. 4-26-1779 Robertsville, Jasper CO. SC their children were; 1. James de Bureux Jr. b. 1736 (no info) 2. Peter Sr. b. 1738 French Santee, d. 1825 Cheneyville, LA married Anne Grimball, b. 1745, d. 1823 (12 children) 3.* John Patriot, b. 7-15-1742, Robertsville, SC, Jasper Co, SC d. 1826, married on 4-19-1790 to Elizabeth Dixon, b. 1750 d. 1820 4. Elias S., b. 1744 Robertsville, SC, married Mary Rue (4 children) 5. Elizabeth, b. 1750 Robertsville, SC, d. 1835 Cheneyville, LA married John Grimball, b. 1747 Edisto Island, SC d. 1785 (3 children) 6. Sarah, b. 2-6-1755 Robertsville, SC married Joseph Lawton II b. 1753, d. 1815 (6 children) 7. Judith de Burdeux, b. 1757, d. 1839 married John Audebert (2 children) *John Patriot Robert, b. 7-15-1742 Robertsville, Jasper Co, SC, d. 1826, married on 4-19-1769 to Elizabeth Dixon, b. 1750, d. 1820 their children were; 1. James John, b. 1770, married Charlotte Ann Lawton 2. Mary Harriet, b. 1771, married Richard Bostic 3. Elizabeth Ann, b. 1772, married Thomas Benjamin Singleton, b. 1769 (6 children). 4. John Hancock, b. 1775, d. 1835 married Anne Maner, b. 1780 d. 1852 (7 children). 5. Thomas Smith, b. 1777, d. 1816 married Sarah O'Bannon 6. *William Henry, b. 1780, d. 1835, married Mary Maner, b. 1785, d. 1826 (6 children). 7. James Jehu, b. 1781, d. 1852 married Charlotte Ann Lawton, b. 1785 (this looks like the same Charlotte that married James John). (7 children) 8. Benjamin Nathaniel, b. 1787, d . 1849 married Eliza Paisley, b. 1794, d. 1816 (3 children). 9. Sarah Dixon, b. 1789, d. 1794 10. Lucia, b. 1792, d. 1794 *William Henry Robert, b. 1780, d. 1836, married Mary Maner, b. 1785, d. 1826 their children were; 1. Emily, b.?, d. ? married Seaborn Jones 2. Rosalee, (no info) 3. *Ulysses Maner, b. 1804, married Rachel Rhodes. (6 children) 4. Sarah Ann Elizabeth, b. 1807, d. 1841 married James Daniel Erwin, b. 1788, d. 1852 (10 children). 5. Julia Caroline, b. 1812, d. 1888, married William Robinson Erwin, b. 1799. 6. Elizabeth, b. 1817, married Peyton Lisby Wade, b. 1797, d. 1866 (11 children) Hope this helps. I do have more coming forward, but thought you might have that already. If you see something wrong, please contact me. Judy Roberts

Judy: Sorry, I do not recall the source of Jehan and Humbert, reported to be the grandfather and father respectively, of Guillaume Robert. I have the feeling it may be from J. B. de Saussure who lives in France and has a lot of Huguenot lines from both France and Switzerland. Whoever it was, they had Daniel b. 1625 in Switzerland and married April 1, 1651, in Switzerland to Marie Petremand. If they were married in Wales in 1653, I rather doubt that she was born about 1645. Did they both flee to Wales and later return to Switzerland? Do you have other names for Guillaume's father and grandfather? Edward >Edward, > Who is Jehan and Humbert??? Not in Rev. Pierre Robert's line! Where >did you get this info? > >This is the line: > >Guillaume Robert, b. 1544 Lelocle Neufchatel Switzerland. It is not known >who he married. They had a son named; (Guillaume is French for William) > | >Daniel Robert, b. 1570 St Imier, Switzerland, he died 1634. It is not known >who he married. They had a son named: > | >Pierre Robert, b. 1598 St Imier, Switzerland. He married, 9 May 1622, to >Judith Sagne, b. 1601 St Imier, Switzerland >They had a son named: > | >Daniel Robert. b. 1630 Aberystwth, Wales, d. 1679 Basil, Switzerland. He >married in 1653 Wales, to Marie Petremand, b. abt 1645. >And it was their son; > | >Rev. Pierre Robert, b. 1656 St. Imier, Switzerland who married Jeanne Braye, >who sailed to America with his family and Huguenot followers, >landing at Charleston, SC 1686. > >Judy >

In a message dated 09/02/2000 7:42:14 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Edward@Fuse.net writes: << Judy: Thank you for the additional dates and the most interesting family history. I have some of the family names back to Jehan, father of Humbert, but of course no way of knowing if I have all the dates available. I feel sure our families must have been very close in the early days at French Santee. Edward >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Edward, Who is Jehan and Humbert??? Not in Rev. Pierre Robert's line! Where did you get this info? This is the line: Guillaume Robert, b. 1544 Lelocle Neufchatel Switzerland. It is not known who he married. They had a son named; (Guillaume is French for William) | Daniel Robert, b. 1570 St Imier, Switzerland, he died 1634. It is not known who he married. They had a son named: | Pierre Robert, b. 1598 St Imier, Switzerland. He married, 9 May 1622, to Judith Sagne, b. 1601 St Imier, Switzerland They had a son named: | Daniel Robert. b. 1630 Aberystwth, Wales, d. 1679 Basil, Switzerland. He married in 1653 Wales, to Marie Petremand, b. abt 1645. And it was their son; | Rev. Pierre Robert, b. 1656 St. Imier, Switzerland who married Jeanne Braye, who sailed to America with his family and Huguenot followers, landing at Charleston, SC 1686. Judy

Judy: Thank you for the additional dates and the most interesting family history. I have some of the family names back to Jehan, father of Humbert, but of course no way of knowing if I have all the dates available. I feel sure our families must have been very close in the early days at French Santee. Edward > I am looking to see what I can find on this Margaret Robert who married >Allard Belin. But I thought you might be interested in the following. > Rev. Pierre Robert (b. 1656 St. Imier, Swtz) married 1674 to Jeanne Braye >(b. 1660 Basil Swtz) The Rev. d. 1715 and his wife d. 1717, both in French >Sante, SC. Their children were as follows: > 1. Pierre Jr. b. 1675 Switzerland > 2. Elias, b. 1679 Switzerland > 3. Jeanne, b. 1681 Switzerland > 4. Jean (John) b. 1687 French Santee, SC (my hubbys ancestor) >I have this line going back to 1544. They are well documented. >Judy

In a message dated 09/02/2000 11:58:31 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Edward@Fuse.net writes: << Do you have any birth dates for the children of Peter and Mary? Edward >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Their were 5 children; 1. Anne, b abt 1725 2. Susannah, b. abt 1727 3. Lynch, b. 1729 4. Jonah, b. 1731 5. Mary, b. 1733 Judy

In a message dated 09/02/2000 11:50:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Edward@Fuse.net writes: Edward said; It seems to me my first question should be "what was the birth date of Anne who married John Horry?". Based on the 1740 marriage date and the 1709 b. date for John, she was likely born abt. 1709-1724, more likely abt. 1715-1722, as 31 year-old John probably would not have married a 16 year-old child. Assuming she was b. 1722, and the daughter of Peter (b.1704), he would have been 18 at her birth, a very normal relationship of dates. I said; I figure Anne was the first born abt 1725, making Peter 16 years older then Anne, which would have made her 15 and him 31 when they married, which was very common for the times. This was a prestigious family and they would have married this daughter off to someone of stature. I would also put her sister Susannah as being born abt. 1727. Edward said; I have a "Margaret Robert" who married Allard Belin (1719-1804) in 1744 as the dtr. of Capt. Peter and Mary (Lynch) Robert. Is this a bad connection? If so, does anyone know who her parents were? I said; I can't help you here. I don't show a Margaret Robert or Allard Bemin anywhere in my files. Judy Roberts Can anyone else help? Edward

In a message dated 09/02/2000 11:50:22 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Edward@Fuse.net writes: << Can anyone else help? Edward >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Edward, I am looking to see what I can find on this Margaret Robert who married Allard Belin. But I thought you might be interested in the following. Rev. Pierre Robert (b. 1656 St. Imier, Swtz) married 1674 to Jeanne Braye (b. 1660 Basil Swtz) The Rev. d. 1715 and his wife d. 1717, both in French Sante, SC. Their children were as follows: 1. Pierre Jr. b. 1675 Switzerland 2. Elias, b. 1679 Switzerland 3. Jeanne, b. 1681 Switzerland 4. Jean (John) b. 1687 French Santee, SC (my hubbys ancestor) I have this line going back to 1544. They are well documented. Judy ~~~~ From; "The Huguenot Society of South Carolina" "A Tribute To Pasteur Pierre Robert In The 300th Anniversary Year Of His Ordination To The Ministry" by, Thomas O. Lawton, Jr. "In the 300th anniversary year of his ordination to the ministry, we pay special tribute to Pasteur Pierre Robert, one of South Carolina's first Huguenot ministers. Records reflect that Robert, the first minister at St. James Santee, in his removal from the cultivated civilization of Switzerland to the wild frontier of South Carolina, faced the many problems and challenges of an unfamiliar, unstable new land. The records also show that at the time of his death here in 1715, he was revered by his congregation, had achieved a more than moderate degree of economic success, and was the founder of a family, many of whom have since excelled in the professions, the military and in other fields. Robert's story, with certain variations, would indeed be similar to the stories of many of the other Huguenot immigrants to the Province of Carolina. Robert, the son of Daniel and Marie Robert, was born in 1656 in the Swiss Jura at St. Imier, where he was baptized on February 3, 1656. St, Imier, located in the Urguel Valley, only a few kilometers from France, had welcomed religious refugees for several decades before Robert's birth. In fact, tolerant areas of Switzerland had been receiving religious refugees from less friendly areas of Switzerland, from the British Isles, France and Italy since the end of the 16th century. The Catholic Bishop of Bale required enumeration of new inhabitants received by him as subjects, and on the April 28, 1623, List of Strangers for St. Imier, Pierre Robert's grandfather, Guillaume Robert, his father Daniel, several uncles and other relatives are recorded, although their place of origin is not disclosed. St. Imier, in the 20th century, is a village of much beauty, with a handsome medieval church on the town square, Longine watch factories, and Mont Soleil, an excellent ski resort. Unfortunately, military invasion by the French in the early 1800's and numerous fires have destroyed many of the older buildings and ancient records. Pierre Robert, at an early age, left his native hearth for the nearby bilingual city of Bale, on the navigable headwaters of the Rhine. Here he matriculated on January 13, 1674, at the City University in Philosophy, the compulsory, stage for theology, law, and medicine. In his first year he studied rhetoric, Latin, Greek, eloquence, and logic, or elementary philosophy. Founded in 1460 by Pius II, the University of Bale was the first university in Switzerland and became one of the chief centers of the Reformation Movement in Switzerland because of its exceptional faculty, which included among its notable members, Zwingli, and Erasmus. In his eighteenth year, the same year as his matriculation at the University (1674), Robert married Jeanne Braye, daughter of Jehu and Susanne Braye in Bale. His son, Pierre, Jr., was born a year later, and at the infant's baptism on May 9, 1675, in the French Church, the three sponsors were Mlle. Elizabeth Guerri, Mr. Remy Frey, and Mr. De Bieuleau. Mlle. Guerri may well have been a member of the family of Guerry who settled in South Carolina; Frey was of the refugee clan of Frey, still held in high esteem in Bale after three centuries, and Mr. De Bieuleau was a nobleman of minor rank. The gap in Robert's record from 1675 until 1681 was probably time during which he obtained further theological training at a Reformed Center other than the University of Bale. From 1681 until 1685 he served the French Church as a deacon and then as assistant pastor in his native Urguel Valley. Robert left the Urguel and Switzerland in 1685, but it has not been fully ascertained from documents found to date, how, where, and when, he and the other settlers of St. James Santee grouped, made plans, and finally set sail for South Carolina. The Logical answer to these questions would seem to be that the emigrating group gathered at La Rochelle or the Isle de Re in 1685 and came on to Carolina late in 1685 or early in 1686. Such an assumption can be based on certain traditions, records of land grants and warrants of the settlers, and records as to the nativity of the settlers. Tradition within the Robert family for many years has been that Robert, the minister, and his congregation gathered on the Isle de Re in 1685, assembling under the daring and enterprising leadership of Captain Phillipe Gendron, and in 1686 reached the shores of Carolina, where Gendron was also prominent in the affairs of the settlement. Rev Pierre founded the first Huguenot Church St. James Parish, Jamestown, French Santee, in 1706. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ From: "Huguenot Society of South Carolina" Today, the town of St. James Santee has disappeared, Robertsville is but a cross-road, and the Robert surname no longer exists in South Carolina. However, at last count in 1975, some 88 descendents of the Reverand Pierre Robert have kept his memory alive as members of this Society. Pasteur Robert could look with justifiable pride on the contributions to this state and nation made by many of his progeny. Probably the most well-known of these would be the Revolutionary War General Peter Horry; the Confederate Line General, who was later Quartermaster General of the Confederacy, Alexander Robert Lawton; and of course, General Martyn Robert, author of "Robert's Rules of Order". It is hoped that Pasteur Robert would also look Huguenot compassion and tolerance upon his descendants of lesser achievement and prominence! *I have photo's of the church.

Do you have any birth dates for the children of Peter and Mary? Edward > >> >I agree with the above information. I have Pierre Robert III 1704-1740 m. to >Mary Lynch . They had Susannah (Anne) Robert m. Capt. Peter Horry. I have >listed as the other children of Pierre Robert III: Lynch, Jonah and Mary. > >

Judy: Thank you for your help! To reply to your two messages: >Could you please tell me who the father/mother is of this Anne Robert? If there "was" an Anne Roberts who was born in 1702-1703 (unless she was his twin, forget the "May 1704" part, as Peter was born in 1704 before his mother died in May), she would presumably be the daughter of Anna Legrand and sister of Capt. Peter. A 1702-1703 birthdate does nor preclude her from marrying John Horry (b. 1709) although it is a little unusual. If she was a "true person", perhaps she had an early death, unmarried. If you know Peter to be the only child of Pierre and Anna, that would eliminate the question (and the person). >Rev. Pierre Robert (1656 St Imier, Swtz) sailed to America with his wife, >family and followers and landed in Charleston 1686. His son, Pierre Jr, >b. 1675 was 11 years old at the time. It is this Pierre who married Anna >Marie Louise LeGrand (1680-1704). They had a son, Pierre III, b. 1704 in >French Santee, SC, he married Mary Lynch. They had the following children: >Lynch, b. 1729, Jonah, b. 1731, Mary, b. 1733, Susannah b. ??, >and Anne, b. ?? It is not possible that this Anne was born 1703 or 1704, >or that she was born in Switzerland! She was born in French Santee, SC. >And, I don't list a son Pierre/Peter for Pierre III and Mary Lynch. But that >is possible I guess, I might not have all the kids. Your information is most welcome. It clears up several questions about places of birth. It seems to me my first question should be "what was the birth date of Anne who married John Horry?". Based on the 1740 marriage date and the 1709 b. date for John, she was likely born abt. 1709-1724, more likely abt. 1715-1722, as 31 year-old John probably would not have married a 16 year-old child. Assuming she was b. 1722, and the daughter of Peter (b.1704), he would have been 18 at her birth, a very normal relationship of dates. I have a "Margaret Robert" who married Allard Belin (1719-1804) in 1744 as the dtr. of Capt. Peter and Mary (Lynch) Robert. Is this a bad connection? If so, does anyone know who her parents were? Can anyone else help? Edward

Hello, I am new to this list (and genealogy) and am trying to research my grt. grandmother Isadora Marion Woody of Charleston (and/or Georgetown), SC, born in 1844. In 1864 she married William Sidney Fisher and they had ten children. Her parents were John Thomas Woody and Caroline Elizabeth Simmons (whose father was Capt. Stephen Simmons whose family goes back to 1621 in Plymouth, Mass). There is a rumor Isadora Marion was related to Gov. Benj. Franklin Perry. If anyone has any information on the Woodys or others I would be most grateful if they would contact me. Thanks. Timothy Fisher

In a message dated 9/2/00 8:01:52 AM Eastern Daylight Time, SCCHARLE-D-request@rootsweb.com writes: << ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Rev. Pierre Robert (1656 St Imier, Swtz) sailed to America with his wife, family and followers and landed in Charleston 1686. His son, Pierre Jr, b. 1675 was 11 years old at the time. It is this Pierre who married Anna Marie Louise LeGrand (1680-1704). They had a son, Pierre III, b. 1704 in French Santee, SC, he married Mary Lynch. They had the following children: Lynch, b. 1729, Jonah, b. 1731, Mary, b. 1733, Susannah b. ??, and Anne, b. ?? It is not possible that this Anne was born 1703 or 1704, or that she was born in Switzerland! She was born in French Santee, SC. And, I don't list a son Pierre/Peter for Pierre III and Mary Lynch. But that is possible I guess, I might not have all the kids. Judy Roberts >> I agree with the above information. I have Pierre Robert III 1704-1740 m. to Mary Lynch . They had Susannah (Anne) Robert m. Capt. Peter Horry. I have listed as the other children of Pierre Robert III: Lynch, Jonah and Mary.