Help !!!!! Oliver O'Hara later Col Oliver O'Hara first mayor of Key West. Born in S C traveled to Phili enlisted in Phila 1812 Moved to Key West in 1832 stayed after 1850 Son Daniel Gr - son Oliver O'Hara who both moved to Rhd. Island William O'Hara [1750 - 1817]. Born in Ireland, Rev War Private in 5th Regiment SC - Married Rebecca Foy. [1776 - 1854 ] ...possibly the father of William naturalized on Feb 7th 1797 in Charleston. but I need to be sure.

Thanks Edward, this is what I wanted. Judy << Yes, It is from pg. 353 of the book, "St. James Santee Plantation Parish, History and Records" by Anne Baker Bridges and Roy Williams. >>

Judy: Yes, It is from pg. 353 of the book, "St. James Santee Plantation Parish, History and Records" by Anne Baker Bridges and Roy Williams. > > Regarding my paragraph ; "St. James, Santee Parish records shows "John > Horry, - - widower" married to > "Ann Royer, - - widow" July 5, 1759". > This could not have been Ann Simons, widow of John Royer IF she secondly > married Capt. Stephen Proctor because she would have been shown in the > records as "Ann Proctor, widow". > > So maybe there WAS an "Ann Proctor" who married John Royer, Jr. (d. abt. > Nov., 1753) and she then (1759) married John Horry. > >LOL, this is enought to confuse anyone, Edward. Do you have this record that >you mention? Are you quoting from the record? This could very well be. >I have some records that are writen in long hand by Rev. Pierre, (very >difficult to read, and some are in french), but this would be way to early >for Peter Horry to show up. > >Judy >

In a message dated 09/05/2000 1:25:33 AM Eastern Daylight Time, Edward@Fuse.net writes: << Judy: The Royer's were in Carolina ("Old" Jamestown) before 1700. I refer you to No. 24 on "the Liste" of French and Swiss refugees. Also on the list at No. 78 is Pierre Robert. The Manigault brothers were Nos. 87 & 88. Please see my other message to become as confused as I am. Edward >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Thanks Edward, I saw your other post and have responded. Judy

In a message dated 09/04/2000 11:56:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, CJK1043@aol.com writes: << Thanks Judy , For the replie . What do you have regarding : James Jehu Robert Born : 11/4/1781 Died: 1/19/1852 Married Charlotte Anne Lawton on Jan 12, 1802 ( His 1st wife ) She was born : Sept 17, 1785 Died July 11, 1817 Buried in Roberts Family Cemetery ( daughter of Joseph Lawton and Sarah Robert ) Charlotte Anne Lawton was his 1st cousin Daughters; Sarah Robert Thirza Eveline Robert Born 9/14/1803 Eliza Jane Robert , Born 1/30/1810 Both daughters Thirza and Eliza married George Rhodes Sons ( 4 ) Thank You , CJK 1043@aol.com >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Following is about all that I can add to what you already have. of their children: Thirza Eveline, b. 9-14-1803 Benjamin J., b. 1805 (may have died young) Joseph Thomas, b. 1807 Eliza Jane, b. 1-30-1810 Alexander, b. 1811 Sarah, b. 1813 Benjamin, b. 1815 Charlotte Anne's family was: Joseph Lawton II, b. 1753 d. 1815 m/ Sarah Robert, b. 2-6-1755, she d. 1839, d/o Jacque James De Burdeaux Robert and Sarah Jaudon. Joseph and Sarah's children were: (not sure if the order of birth is correct) Martha, b. ?? William Henry, b. 1775 Joseph James, b. 1777 Benjamin T. D'ion, b. 1782 Winborn Asa, b. 1783 Charlotte Anne, b. 9-17-1785 Judy

In a message dated 09/05/2000 1:47:46 PM Eastern Daylight Time, Edward@Fuse.net writes: << Frost and Judy: Whoops! Sorry, I made a mistake in my earlier message. (Told you I was confused) Regarding my paragraph ; "St. James, Santee Parish records shows "John Horry, - - widower" married to "Ann Royer, - - widow" July 5, 1759". This could not have been Ann Simons, widow of John Royer IF she secondly married Capt. Stephen Proctor because she would have been shown in the records as "Ann Proctor, widow". So maybe there WAS an "Ann Proctor" who married John Royer, Jr. (d. abt. Nov., 1753) and she then (1759) married John Horry. Oh boy! Edward >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ LOL, this is enought to confuse anyone, Edward. Do you have this record that you mention? Are you quoting from the record? This could very well be. I have some records that are writen in long hand by Rev. Pierre, (very difficult to read, and some are in french), but this would be way to early for Peter Horry to show up. Judy

Betty: Thanks for the additional dates. I had Alexander Richie Haig (b. 1844) as married to Elizabeth Whitsell. Could that be her name from a previous marriage? Can you help with children of generations after Rep. George Haig and Mary Maham? I only have one child for each of the later generations. Any dates on the Mahams would be great! My software does all my information arranging for me. Otherwise it would be very hard to read indeed. Edward

This is the ONLY information that I have on the Brith Shalom Cemetery and I am completely unfamiliar with the area. "The Brith Shalom Cemetery is a few blocks west of the Magnolia Cemetery on the outskirts of peninsula Charleston." Could anyone give me information regarding BRITH SHALOM CEMETERY? I will be going down to Charleston on the weekend of the 15th of Sept. and would like to visit and go over their records as well as those of Magnolia Cem. Does anyone know if it (Brith Shalom ) is open to the public daily? Some older cemeteries seem to be locked all the time, especially Jewish ones. Are records available? Can you purchase a listing of persons buried there or find them online? Also, does anyone know of a home that rents rooms? Dont need anything fancy, just cheap with a clean bed and shower in town.. Thanks for any tips. Edie in Atlanta

Frost and Judy: Whoops! Sorry, I made a mistake in my earlier message. (Told you I was confused) Regarding my paragraph ; "St. James, Santee Parish records shows "John Horry, - - widower" married to "Ann Royer, - - widow" July 5, 1759". This could not have been Ann Simons, widow of John Royer IF she secondly married Capt. Stephen Proctor because she would have been shown in the records as "Ann Proctor, widow". So maybe there WAS an "Ann Proctor" who married John Royer, Jr. (d. abt. Nov., 1753) and she then (1759) married John Horry. Oh boy! Edward

Edward Thanks for the clarification from your obviously very deep database. I am glad you verified the name ROYER, as I was about to merge it into ROBERT (big mistake) When I return in a week, I will examine your email and try to find some thing to add to the discussion. Frost Prioleau Piedmont, CA hfrost@prioleau.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Edward L. Manigault" <Edward@Fuse.net> > > Here is how I figure it out. > > Ann Royer and Ann Proctor seem to be the same person, unless there were some > very strange unions in that time. > > John Royer (1696-1721/22) [son of Noe Royer and Judith Gitton] m. (abt. > 1716) Ann "Hannah" Simons (b. 1699). They had at least 3 issue, Ann, Samuel, > and John, Jr. (d. abt. Nov., 1753) a Ferryman. > > If John Horry's wife's maiden name was Ann Royer, it could be this one, the > dtr. of John and Ann (Simons) Royer. > > It was reported that John, Jr. married an "Ann Proctor", dtr. of Capt. > Proctor and wife, "Hannah", but that would mean that he married his > half-sister. That, I would prefer not to believe. It was this "Ann Proctor" > who was supposedly later married (July 5, 1759) to John Horry (1709-1770) > widower of Ann Robert. > > After the death of John Royer (abt. 1722), Ann (Simons) Royer married (abt. > 1730) Capt. Stephen Proctor and had at least two issue, Richard and Ann. > > Richard m. (1772) Mary Vinson. > > Ann (1731-1773) m. (1755) Josias Allston (1731-1776) as his second wife. > This Ann can not be the wife of John Horry because she was married to > Allston during the same time period. > > I think it is "possible" that Ann (Simons) Royer/Proctor married, thirdly, > John Horry. Does anyone have a death date for Capt. Stephen Proctor? > > I have Ann Robert as the mother of the same children you have Ann Royer for. > If Ann Royer lived to 1776, she was still living when John Horry married Ann > Proctor in 1759. > > St. James, Santee Parish records shows "John Horry, - - widower" married to > "Ann Royer, - - widow" July 5, 1759. That's the date I have for John > marrying Ann Proctor. > > So was her maiden name Proctor, or Simons (or neither)? snip

Thank you Frost, for the info on Peter Horry. I did not have anything on him. And Edward, could you provide the answer to who Ann Proctor is, and where she might fit in? Thanks Y'all, I have enjoyed the exchange on the Robert family. Judy ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ << Edward Manigault is the one who provided Ann PROCTOR as another wife of John HORRY; so he will have support this ! Frost Prioleau Piedmont, CA hfrost@prioleau.com ----- O >>

If anyone comes across the name HILDRETH in the 1790's through 1820's would you notify me. I have found a baptism record at the Circular Congregational Church as well as listings in the early 1800's City Directory and a listing in the 1800 Charleston, SC census. I am looking for orphan records and guardian records. Also looking for Dowling information in the late 1810's. Zacheus Dowling was a preacher in the city with the Methodist Church in 1818. My Benjamin HILDRETH married Zacheus Dowling's sister, Jemima Dowling in the early 1820's. kp ----- Original Message ----- From: <SCCHARLE-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <SCCHARLE-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2000 6:00 AM Subject: SCCHARLE-D Digest V00 #153

Judy: The Royer's were in Carolina ("Old" Jamestown) before 1700. I refer you to No. 24 on "the Liste" of French and Swiss refugees. Also on the list at No. 78 is Pierre Robert. The Manigault brothers were Nos. 87 & 88. Please see my other message to become as confused as I am. Edward >Hi Frost, > I sure wish I had some information on Peter Horry. Is there anyone on >this list that can enlighten us about him? > Ok, I list the same children with the same dates, but I have their mother >as Anne Robert. I am beginning to believe that this Ann Royer and Anne Robert >are one and the same. I think the Royer came about by someone who may not >have heard the name correctly, or was not that good at spelling. I run into >this all the time, I am sure we all do. > >I would like to know who Ann Proctor is and where she might fit in? >Could you enlighten me? > >Judy Roberts > >

Frost: Here is how I figure it out. Ann Royer and Ann Proctor seem to be the same person, unless there were some very strange unions in that time. John Royer (1696-1721/22) [son of Noe Royer and Judith Gitton] m. (abt. 1716) Ann "Hannah" Simons (b. 1699). They had at least 3 issue, Ann, Samuel, and John, Jr. (d. abt. Nov., 1753) a Ferryman. If John Horry's wife's maiden name was Ann Royer, it could be this one, the dtr. of John and Ann (Simons) Royer. It was reported that John, Jr. married an "Ann Proctor", dtr. of Capt. Proctor and wife, "Hannah", but that would mean that he married his half-sister. That, I would prefer not to believe. It was this "Ann Proctor" who was supposedly later married (July 5, 1759) to John Horry (1709-1770) widower of Ann Robert. After the death of John Royer (abt. 1722), Ann (Simons) Royer married (abt. 1730) Capt. Stephen Proctor and had at least two issue, Richard and Ann. Richard m. (1772) Mary Vinson. Ann (1731-1773) m. (1755) Josias Allston (1731-1776) as his second wife. This Ann can not be the wife of John Horry because she was married to Allston during the same time period. I think it is "possible" that Ann (Simons) Royer/Proctor married, thirdly, John Horry. Does anyone have a death date for Capt. Stephen Proctor? I have Ann Robert as the mother of the same children you have Ann Royer for. If Ann Royer lived to 1776, she was still living when John Horry married Ann Proctor in 1759. St. James, Santee Parish records shows "John Horry, - - widower" married to "Ann Royer, - - widow" July 5, 1759. That's the date I have for John marrying Ann Proctor. So was her maiden name Proctor, or Simons (or neither)? Edward >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Edward L. Manigault" <Edward@Fuse.net> > >> > > I have Anne as the first of two wives for John Horry, the second being >Anne Proctor. Age 31 was a "little" late for John to marry the first time. >Was there, perhaps, an earlier wife before Anne Robert? > >Edward and others > >Now I am confused. I also have 2 wives for John HORRY, Ann ROYER and Anne >ROBERT. I show children from ROYER. Could they be the same person, Anne >ROBERT ?. I show: > >1-John HORRY (1709-10 Apr 1770) >sp: Ann ROYER (-Jan 1776) > 2-Peter HORRY (13 Mar 1742-28 Feb 1815) > sp: Margaret Mary GUIGNARD (-17 Apr 1817) > sp: BAXTER (-18 Oct 1791) > 2-Hugh HORRY (1744-8 Sep 1795) > 2-Jonah HORRY (1746-14 May 1812) > sp: Sarah BURNET (1760-Oct 1793) > sp: Lucretia SARRAZIN (Mar 1752-8 Oct 1835) > 2-John HORRY (1748-10 May 1774) >sp: Anne ROBERT (abt 1725-) > >Should I add Ann PROCTOR ?>Frost Prioleau >Piedmont, CA >hfrost@prioleau.com

Thanks Judy , For the replie . What do you have regarding : James Jehu Robert Born : 11/4/1781 Died: 1/19/1852 Married Charlotte Anne Lawton on Jan 12, 1802 ( His 1st wife ) She was born : Sept 17, 1785 Died July 11, 1817 Buried in Roberts Family Cemetery ( daughter of Joseph Lawton and Sarah Robert ) Charlotte Anne Lawton was his 1st cousin Daughters; Sarah Robert Thirza Eveline Robert Born 9/14/1803 Eliza Jane Robert , Born 1/30/1810 Both daughters Thirza and Eliza married George Rhodes Sons ( 4 ) Thank You , CJK 1043@aol.com

Hi Edward, Thank you so much for the infomation you gave me. I will write you again at the end of the week. I have company coming for a couple of days. You have all your information written out so nicely. I need to sit down and write what I have so far. I have some additions to your dates on Mary Maham side. Yours is the first time I saw Anne Marr Name written. She would be my 2nd Gt. grandparent. I do know that Alexander Richie Haig married his cousin Anne Marr, but do not know how she is a cousin to him. She was born in 1814. Alexander Richie was born in 1812. Their son Alexander Richie born 1844 married Elizabeth Godfrey Haig I know about their children and grandchildren down to me. I do not know which Haigs you want. please let me know so I can tell you what I know. I will give you more completed dates later. I just wantd to let you know I received your note and wanted to thank you Betty

Hello Judy Roberts Here is what I have on Gen. Peter HORRY: Father: John HORRY (1709 - 10 Apr 1770) Mother: Ann ROYER ( - Jan 1776) (Could be Anne ROBERTS ?) Birth 13 Mar 1742 SC Death 28 Feb 1815 (age 72) Columbia, SC Burial Trinity Churchyard, Columbia, SC Marriages 1. Margaret Mary GUIGNARD Marriage 9 Feb 1793 (age 50) 2. BAXTER Marriage Captain Horry was a regimental officer appointed to raise a squadron of mounted rangers by the SC Provincial Congress on 17 Jun 1775. Later, he became a Major and Colonel and chief aide to Francis Marion (the Swamp Fox) in the SC Militia.. He fought the entire Revolution with Francis Marion. He was wounded at Eutaw Springs on 8 Sep 1781 and was seized late in the war at Hampton Plantation, which was plundered and burned. During the war, Mrs. Horry saved Francis Marion from capture at Hampton Plantation when the British troops were pursuing him by hiding him in the nearby swamp. Promoted to Brigadier General, he co-authored a book "The Life of General Francis Marion, a celebrated Partisan Officer, in the Revolutionary War against the British and Tories in South Carolina and Georgia". Horry County, the SC county that contains Myrtle Beach, was named for Peter Horry. I am also beginning to believe that Ann ROYER is really Anne ROBERTS. Can anyone confirm or dispute this ? Edward Manigault is the one who provided Ann PROCTOR as another wife of John HORRY; so he will have support this ! Frost Prioleau Piedmont, CA hfrost@prioleau.com ----- Original Message ----- From: <J2ROBERTS@aol.com> > I sure wish I had some information on Peter Horry. Is there anyone on > this list that can enlighten us about him? > Ok, I list the same children with the same dates, but I have their mother > as Anne Robert. I am beginning to believe that this Ann Royer and Anne Robert > are one and the same. I think the Royer came about by someone who may not > have heard the name correctly, or was not that good at spelling. I run into > this all the time, I am sure we all do. > > I would like to know who Ann Proctor is and where she might fit in? > Could you enlighten me? > > Judy Roberts > > > << > Now I am confused. I also have 2 wives for John HORRY, Ann ROYER and Anne > ROBERT. I show children from ROYER. Could they be the same person, Anne > ROBERT ?. I show: > > 1-John HORRY (1709-10 Apr 1770) > sp: Ann ROYER (-Jan 1776) > 2-Peter HORRY (13 Mar 1742-28 Feb 1815) > sp: Margaret Mary GUIGNARD (-17 Apr 1817) > sp: BAXTER (-18 Oct 1791) > 2-Hugh HORRY (1744-8 Sep 1795) > 2-Jonah HORRY (1746-14 May 1812) > sp: Sarah BURNET (1760-Oct 1793) > sp: Lucretia SARRAZIN (Mar 1752-8 Oct 1835) > 2-John HORRY (1748-10 May 1774) > sp: Anne ROBERT (abt 1725-) > > Should I add Ann PROCTOR ? > > Bye-the -way, thank all of you for the education on the ROBERTS line. > > I am away for a week, but will reply on my return. > > Frost Prioleau > Piedmont, CA > hfrost@prioleau.com

Hi Frost, I sure wish I had some information on Peter Horry. Is there anyone on this list that can enlighten us about him? Ok, I list the same children with the same dates, but I have their mother as Anne Robert. I am beginning to believe that this Ann Royer and Anne Robert are one and the same. I think the Royer came about by someone who may not have heard the name correctly, or was not that good at spelling. I run into this all the time, I am sure we all do. I would like to know who Ann Proctor is and where she might fit in? Could you enlighten me? Judy Roberts << Now I am confused. I also have 2 wives for John HORRY, Ann ROYER and Anne ROBERT. I show children from ROYER. Could they be the same person, Anne ROBERT ?. I show: 1-John HORRY (1709-10 Apr 1770) sp: Ann ROYER (-Jan 1776) 2-Peter HORRY (13 Mar 1742-28 Feb 1815) sp: Margaret Mary GUIGNARD (-17 Apr 1817) sp: BAXTER (-18 Oct 1791) 2-Hugh HORRY (1744-8 Sep 1795) 2-Jonah HORRY (1746-14 May 1812) sp: Sarah BURNET (1760-Oct 1793) sp: Lucretia SARRAZIN (Mar 1752-8 Oct 1835) 2-John HORRY (1748-10 May 1774) sp: Anne ROBERT (abt 1725-) Should I add Ann PROCTOR ? Bye-the -way, thank all of you for the education on the ROBERTS line. I am away for a week, but will reply on my return. Frost Prioleau Piedmont, CA hfrost@prioleau.com >>

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