Mike and Bushy, I'm sure that hosting an active website and administering a mail list both involve a great deal of time and dedication on your part and, although we may not express it as often as we should, believe me that those efforts are certainly appreciated by those of us who benefit from them. As for your questions: 1. I see multiple websites as a positive rather than a negative. Each has its own special format and focus of interest. In my years of researching I can't recall even a single instance of a researcher complaining about there being too many sources. The more the better, especially for an area with the long history of Berkeley Co. I'm doubtful that any single site could possibly encompass all the various aspects - family records, church records, court records, plantation records, political history. 2. As for the mail list administration, being a native is of negligible importance compared to dedicated interest and activity, which you both exhibit. Not being natives might even be an advantage in keeping the list more balanced, avoiding it becoming too skewed towards the administrators own particular interests. I subscribe to several "place" lists and yours is definitely one of the more active and useful. Thanks for all the great work. Hope you'll keep it up. Ken Daniell Charleston and Berkeley Co. families: Beadon/Bedon (George, Elizabeth), Daniell (Robert, John), and Raven (John Sr., John Jr., Sarah). > > From: Mike Hartman <MIKE_BUSHY@homexpressway.net> > Date: 2002/11/10 Sun AM 09:55:22 EST > To: SCBERKEL-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SCBERKEL] The Need for New Berkeley County Web Page Coordinators? > > Hello all, > Bushy and I were just contacted by someone just starting up another > Berkeley County web page. Please do not consider this flaming or criticizing > the owner or other owners of other Berkeley County web pages. This owner was > very nice and requested permission to post their page information on the > mailing list and didn't wish to step on any toes. We appreciate that, and > got > us to thinking to ask a question of the members of the list. > We have lived in Berkeley County since 1997. We have coordinated the > Rootsweb SCGenWeb county web page for several years now, just about as long > as we have been here. We do not have any family in Berkeley County. We did > this because when we first started doing genealogy online we found that this > county site was up for adoption. Our whole goal was to give back to the > genealogy community as we received from others in other states that our > families did and do live in. We recently spent many hours revising the page > and removing all data from the previous owner John Simons, who has his own > web page with the Berkeley County Historical Society, you can find a link to > his page from ours. We found that most of the Berkeley county web pages > focused on differing areas and if we all worked together we could all > intensively cover those areas in which we were most interested. Mike and I > enjoy photographing headstones and cemeteries in hopes of preserving the > images before the stones are gone. We also have started going to Charleston > and paying for copies of early wills by going through the microfilms and > pulling out all those that mention Berkeley County or her parishes. This is > somewhat expensive but we felt that it was worth it to provide a quality web > page since we were not receiving any submissions. We also just obtained > copies of the 1790 census from Charleston. > > Back to the purpose of this posting: > > 1. We would like to ask the subscribers of the Berkeley County mail list if > they feel that our web page is needed, since there are so many others? Here > are just a couple of examples: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tga/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~scbchs/index.htm > > 2. And/or would you like for someone else to take the SCGenWeb Berkeley > County web page over, possibly a native to the area vice persons recently > moved here? > > Only thing that we ask is for honesty, and that you make your responses to > the list. Please, let's keep it polite. Anyone that does not respond will > be considered as a vote for us to give up the web page to someone else. We > will be more than happy to honor the request of the > majority. > > Have a great genealogical day! > Mike & Bushy > > > > > ==== SCBERKEL Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to SCBERKEL-L-request@rootsweb.com > that contains (in the body of the message) the word "unsubscribe" (without > the quotes)and no additional text. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Your Web page suits me just fine and I am grateful for all the hard work you do. Please don't close up shop because others want to do their own pages. There is plenty of information in Berkeley and surrounding areas to choose from. You are doing a great job! Thanks, Barbara Wouters Mike Hartman wrote: > Hello all, > Bushy and I were just contacted by someone just starting up another > Berkeley County web page. Please do not consider this flaming or criticizing > the owner or other owners of other Berkeley County web pages. This owner was > very nice and requested permission to post their page information on the > mailing list and didn't wish to step on any toes. We appreciate that, and > got > us to thinking to ask a question of the members of the list. > We have lived in Berkeley County since 1997. We have coordinated the > Rootsweb SCGenWeb county web page for several years now, just about as long > as we have been here. We do not have any family in Berkeley County. We did > this because when we first started doing genealogy online we found that this > county site was up for adoption. Our whole goal was to give back to the > genealogy community as we received from others in other states that our > families did and do live in. We recently spent many hours revising the page > and removing all data from the previous owner John Simons, who has his own > web page with the Berkeley County Historical Society, you can find a link to > his page from ours. We found that most of the Berkeley county web pages > focused on differing areas and if we all worked together we could all > intensively cover those areas in which we were most interested. Mike and I > enjoy photographing headstones and cemeteries in hopes of preserving the > images before the stones are gone. We also have started going to Charleston > and paying for copies of early wills by going through the microfilms and > pulling out all those that mention Berkeley County or her parishes. This is > somewhat expensive but we felt that it was worth it to provide a quality web > page since we were not receiving any submissions. We also just obtained > copies of the 1790 census from Charleston. > > Back to the purpose of this posting: > > 1. We would like to ask the subscribers of the Berkeley County mail list if > they feel that our web page is needed, since there are so many others? Here > are just a couple of examples: > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tga/ > http://www.rootsweb.com/~scbchs/index.htm > > 2. And/or would you like for someone else to take the SCGenWeb Berkeley > County web page over, possibly a native to the area vice persons recently > moved here? > > Only thing that we ask is for honesty, and that you make your responses to > the list. Please, let's keep it polite. Anyone that does not respond will > be considered as a vote for us to give up the web page to someone else. We > will be more than happy to honor the request of the > majority. > > Have a great genealogical day! > Mike & Bushy > > > > > ==== SCBERKEL Mailing List ==== > How to unsubscribe. Send a message to SCBERKEL-L-request@rootsweb.com > that contains (in the body of the message) the word "unsubscribe" (without > the quotes)and no additional text. > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > > >

Hello all, Bushy and I were just contacted by someone just starting up another Berkeley County web page. Please do not consider this flaming or criticizing the owner or other owners of other Berkeley County web pages. This owner was very nice and requested permission to post their page information on the mailing list and didn't wish to step on any toes. We appreciate that, and got us to thinking to ask a question of the members of the list. We have lived in Berkeley County since 1997. We have coordinated the Rootsweb SCGenWeb county web page for several years now, just about as long as we have been here. We do not have any family in Berkeley County. We did this because when we first started doing genealogy online we found that this county site was up for adoption. Our whole goal was to give back to the genealogy community as we received from others in other states that our families did and do live in. We recently spent many hours revising the page and removing all data from the previous owner John Simons, who has his own web page with the Berkeley County Historical Society, you can find a link to his page from ours. We found that most of the Berkeley county web pages focused on differing areas and if we all worked together we could all intensively cover those areas in which we were most interested. Mike and I enjoy photographing headstones and cemeteries in hopes of preserving the images before the stones are gone. We also have started going to Charleston and paying for copies of early wills by going through the microfilms and pulling out all those that mention Berkeley County or her parishes. This is somewhat expensive but we felt that it was worth it to provide a quality web page since we were not receiving any submissions. We also just obtained copies of the 1790 census from Charleston. Back to the purpose of this posting: 1. We would like to ask the subscribers of the Berkeley County mail list if they feel that our web page is needed, since there are so many others? Here are just a couple of examples: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~tga/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~scbchs/index.htm 2. And/or would you like for someone else to take the SCGenWeb Berkeley County web page over, possibly a native to the area vice persons recently moved here? Only thing that we ask is for honesty, and that you make your responses to the list. Please, let's keep it polite. Anyone that does not respond will be considered as a vote for us to give up the web page to someone else. We will be more than happy to honor the request of the majority. Have a great genealogical day! Mike & Bushy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McDonald Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/665 Message Board Post: To whom this concerns: I am a decendent of the McDonald family from Williamburg County, My mother, Minnie McDonald and her (3) brothers, William (Billy)McDonald, Earl McDonald and Robert McDonald were all born and raised in Williamburg County around greeleyville, salters, June branch, and a part of Andrew, they have many relatives. My great grand father name was Weldon Harvin McDonald, My grandfather name was Harvin Weldon McDonald, all born and raised in Williamburg County. All of the above family is now deceased. One of my mother's brother, Robert McDonald-to my understanding have 6 or 7 children by a wife name Mary McDonald. The mother and the children had moved to Raleigh or Durham, NC, many years ago. I was told that they once live on Queen Street and the eldest son name was Robert Lee McDonald and that he was once incarcerated for a short period of time. To my knowledge, the family still lives in North Carolina. I am from Charleston, South Carolina.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/664 Message Board Post: We are constantly seeking information on Ceasar Pinckney. His Father's name was Cain Pinckney. They all settled in the Oldfield Section of St. Stephen and were on the plantation owned by Thomas Pinckney who migrated from Charleston and Georgetown areas to Pineville and St. Stephen.

website of interest for county formation maps and census maps www.segenealogy.com/southcarolina/sc_maps.htm floridamom

Hi Tom, That book doesn't have anything on St. Thomas, but the Berkeley List and website are incredibly helpful. To subscribe to the List send a plain text (not HTML) e-mail message with only the word SUBSCRIBE (or UNSUBSCRIBE) in the message body to: SCBERKEL-L-request@rootsweb.com (for mail mode) or to: SCBERKEL-D-request@rootsweb.com (for digest mode) These Berkeley County sites will help you also on your St. Thomas dilemma. http://www.rootsweb.com/~scbchs/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~scbchs/church3.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~scberkel/cemeteries.htm ST. THOMAS CHURCH - 1819 St. Thomas & St. Denis Parish The parish church for St. Thomas Parish. Historians state that the section around Cainhoy probably had a few' settlers before Charles Town was moved from Old Towne to its present location. In 1704, the Rev. Samuel Thomas reported the population included 80 (Church of England families and 20 Dissenting families here. The Parish was laid off in 1706, but the boundaries were not defined until 1708 when the St. Denis Church was made a Chapel of Ease. Although the parish church was authorized by the Assembly in 1706, it was not begun until 1707 and completed in 1708. A Glebe of 200 acres was set up. In 1709 the Rev. Thomas Hasell was appointed a Missionary, to the Parish. He was buried at Pompion Hill, and his grave is said to have washed into the River. In 1721, Richard Beresford, Esq. left a will bequeathing funds known as the Beresford Bounty which gave the Church a source of income and and provided education for the poor children of the Parish. We are told that the population of the parish in 1728 included 565 whites, 950 Negroes, 60 Indian slaves, 20 free Negroes, or "a total of about 1600 souls." St. Denis (the French Church) was the official Chapel-of-Ease to the Parish until 1747 when Pompion Hill was declared a Chapel-of-Ease. In 1755, the Rev. Mr. Garden informed the Missionary Society in England that the old French Refugees were dead, and in 1768 an Act was passed disestablishing the Church of St. Denis and turning its property over to the Vestry of the English Parish. In 1784 the old charter of the Parish was renewed and the name of old St. Denis was revived in the official name, the Parish of St. Thomas and St. Denis. In 1815 a forest fire destroyed the building of 1708, and the present building was erected in 1819 at a time when the white population had dropped to 212. The funds appropriated for the building of a parsonage were considered insufficient when the church was built, and as late as 1723 there was none, but one was eventually built and was burned by Federal troops during the Confederate War. The Church silver was buried by the overseer of Rev. Robert Smith beneath a tree at Brabant Plantation, which is just a few miles up the road from the Church. Though the overseer was suspended from a tree three times before being released, he did not disclose the burial place. Two cups, dating from 1711 and 1753 are said to remain today. In 1937 the Parish Church was in need of extensive repairs. This work was sponsored by the Society of Colonial Dames and through the generosity of Mr. Harry F. Guggenheim a new roof was put on, the church completely repaired, and the ruined vestry room in the churchyard was repaired. Several years ago, this building was practically abandoned. Vandals would not permit it to be kept locked. Mrs. Cox and Mrs. Humphries of Cainhoy have taken an interest in the building and with funds provided by the Guggenheim family have begun a program of cleaning and restoring the church and graveyard. See photograph, above. Congregationalists were here at an early date. When they had no minister, the congregation became Presbyterian. With the coming of the Methodists in the late 1700's much of the community became Methodist. Methodist Bishop William Capers was from this community. His parents were buried on the site where the Methodists once had a ten-acre tract with church and campground. The grave of his mother, Mary Singletary Capers, stands intact as the monument is upright, but vandals have destroyed most of the flat tombs and taken away brick and stones. The Annals and Register of St. Thomas and St. Denis Parish as collected from all sources then available and arranged by Robert F. Clute is a source of information on names and dates of birth, marriage, death and burial of many of the early, settlers in this section. Information and Article from "Historic Ramblin's Through Berkeley" written by and used with permission of Mr. J. Russell Cross Let me know if I can help you with anything else. Dee For details on sources used, refer to this link: http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncbladen/lookups.htm ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas J Jenkins <tjjenkins4@juno.com> To: <d7777@worldnet.att.net> Sent: Sunday, November 03, 2002 2:24 PM Subject: Books Dee- On your list of books, "South Carolina Begins: The Records of a Proprietary County, 1663-1721," does this book address it self to Charleston or what? I'm interested in Berkeley County, St. Thomas Church and its cemetary layouts as well as a list of those buried there. Are these items mentioned? Thanks for your answer. Tom Jenkins from FL.

unsubscribe -----Original Message----- From: SCBERKEL-D-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:SCBERKEL-D-request@rootsweb.com] Sent: Friday, November 01, 2002 12:02 PM To: SCBERKEL-D@rootsweb.com Subject: SCBERKEL-D Digest V02 #99

The Chapel of Ease is located east of Highway 52 in the Strawberry Community. Peggy Price

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: lynes, donneley Classification: Cemetery Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/652.1.2.1 Message Board Post: strawberry plantation cemetery: it that the one off old hwy 52 next to a pig pen? or am i thinking of the chapel of ease?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Haynes/Lynes Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/312.2.1 Message Board Post: Robert R. Haynes was also my great, great, great grandfather. His son Robert Willis Haynes was the father of Richard Willis Haynes who was the father of Richard Willis Haynes, Jr (my dad). I would appreciate any more information you could provide on Emily Lynes. Really any information would be appreciated. I have been in touch with Chris and Jack Lynes and they have been able to provide some information. But one can never have too much information. Chris even e0mailed me some pictures of Fox Bank and pages out of a family bible. Thanks for replying.

Hi Paula, Something is wrong with your email. It keeps coming back Host unknown. All I have on your family is what I could piece together from the cemetery book, such as dates. I have Julia's parents and siblings. Was Nasby and Edward related? Would be happy to swap info. What is your genealogical software? Peggy

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Fultz, Haynes, Lyons, Mills, Dukes, Parker Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/663 Message Board Post: I'm searching the Fultz family from Berkeley County.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/590.2.1.1 Message Board Post: The Haynes/Lynes family from Berkeley County are my Great, great, grand parents. please write me for any info

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/312.1.1.2 Message Board Post: Donna, please write me, too. I think I forgot to add my email to the last post, it is pshank64@hotmail.com I would like to know what your connection to the Haynes/Lynes family is.Thanks!

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/312.2 Message Board Post: My great, great grandparents owned Fox Bank Plantation. Robert R. Haynes was my great, great, grandfather. I don't have very much information on his wife, Emily, except her sisters names and an old picture of the house and a little information on when it was lost by the family. I do have info on him and their children etc. Please write me and I'll gladly share everything I have.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/656.1.2 Message Board Post: Been studying the subject of the People, who occupy principally the East coast and Appalachia. They are called by many names including Brass Ankles, Red Leg, Turks, Melungeon, Cubans, Crotians, etc. There is much uncertainty, and a great deal of speculation on this group. It is not accurate to refer to them as half-breed, mulatto, part Afro American. There was great resistance by them in history, form time to time, to be classified as either White, Afro american, and native American. Books on the subject are more available than previously, but you can start with "Melungeons", then "Almost White". Search the web for a site on Melungeon. There are many family names associated with Brass ankles, including Sweat, Varner, Driggers, Bunch, Goins, Dubose, Platt, and Tann. They may have relationship with the Summerville Indians etc.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/656.1.1 Message Board Post: Been studying the subject of the People, who occupy principally the East coast and Appalachia. They are called by many names including Brass Ankles, Red Leg, Turks, Melungeon, Cubans, Crotians, etc. There is much uncertainty, and a great deal of speculation on this group. It is not accurate to refer to them as half-breed, mulatto, part Afro American. There was great resistance by them in history, form time to time, to be classified as either White, Afro american, and native American. Books on the subject are more available than previously, but you can start with "Melungeons", then "Almost White". Search the web for a site on Melungeon. There are many family names associated with Brass ankles, including Sweat, Varner, Driggers, Bunch, Goins, Dubose, Platt, and Tann. They may have relationship with the Summerville Indians etc.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/652.1.2 Message Board Post: Hi there, I have tried to contact M's Hood about putting her book on the county site and she did not answer. I did send her a letter including a SASE. Mike and I have been photographing many of the cemeteries in Berkeley Co., SC and we just happen to do the St. John Church cemetery in Pinopolis. Mike is at this time working on nameing the photo files and sizing them for the web page. He just uploaded Cordesville Baptist Cemetery and Cora Johnson Cemetery in Cordesville. We also did the Strawberry Chapel Cemetery and that will go up just as quickly as possible. I have heard of the cemetery near the golf course and we can visit that one and photograph the stones since we now know there is an interest in that one. Have a great day Bushy & Mike Hartman

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Jones, Motte Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/JeB.2ACI/652.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the info on the book. I'd love to buy one if it has a couple of these cemeteries in it. One is of St. John's Baptist church out in Pinopolis near West Dike, and the other one is of the graves, that you can see off the side of the road, on what is now the golf course of the Berkeley Country Club. My family, the Joneses and Mottes, owned it before it became the Country Club, when it was Exeter Plantation. Could you possibly look and see if those graveyards have been transcribed? Thanks.