--=======2DC63E9F======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-77F036A8; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Thanks Rondie for taking the time to give the extra information. From what you say, although it is more flexible in some ways, it lacks=20 some of the features I like in BR Photoarchiver. Wouldn't you like to sha= ke=20 a few programs together? ;-) The free Irfanview as well as Paint Shop Pro will do batch conversions. Thanks also Gene? for the link to image management - looks like a useful=20 summary of what's around. I'm wary of putting captions into the photo itself. My expectation is tha= t=20 the current methods of doing this will become obsolete but maybe not. Cheers, Cathy --=======2DC63E9F=======--

Here's a web site with links to and descriptions of lots of photo organizing software. http://www.shortcourses.com/how/imagemanagement/imagemanagement.htm I personally use ThumbsPlus and wouldn't be without it either at work or at home. I've used it for many years. As for captioning I always enter the caption right in the digital image itself. This can be done in Adobe Photoshop by "file > file info > caption" and possibly in other Adobe products also. To learn more about this topic, do an internet search on IPTC (International Press & Telecommunications) Standard and/or Adobe XMP (eXtensible Metadata Platform). I personally would not buy any album software that would not allow me to at least read these captions and even better edit them. The data is right in the image file itself and not in a 3rd party database, although the better album packages will display them for you. Adobe Photoshop will also allow you to print images with these captions below by "file > print with preview > then click on caption". Also if you use your Windows "Search" or "Find" files utility and search for files containing any given word or phrase it will find images with that word or phrase in the caption if the captions are entered in this way. In additional, there are beginning to be many 3rd party software packages that can read these captions. _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

At 09:12 AM 11/20/02 +0800, you wrote: >Hi Rondie, > >Can you tell us a little more about Compupic. I've looked at their pages >on the web but can't find the answers to what I want to know. Perhaps I >will have to download it. Downloading it, and playing with it (or any other program) is probably the best way to find out if it will do the things you want. >Can you update the descriptions/comments or whatever Compupic calls it for >a selected group of pictures or only one at a time? Anything that requires >one at a time input is beyond my time limitations. Obviously some need >editing individually but a basic indication of family group is better than >nothing. pictures are kept in folders on your harddrive, and individual pictures/graphics can be individually annotated. I guess you could put a document in with the pictures, as documents show up and can be opened from Compupic--that document would then hold the general description of the selected group. A caution....if you are sending this to someone else, the document should be in .rtf format, so that any word processor can open it. Compupic uses whatever is on your hard drive. >Can you export the resulting database or is it locked in their format so >that you've lost everything in a few years when the new computer won't run >the program and Compupic hasn't put out an update but has >disappeared? This is the value of being able to export a .csv or some >other generic format. A useable import of a .csv would help too being able >to map fields in the .csv to fields in Compupic. That is an excellent question, and one I don't know the answer to--but would like to. I will query tech support about that. thanks. >You've answered one of the questions about the difference between the Pro >and the ordinary version. Which are you using? If you are using the >standard Compupic - what functions from the Pro version are you always >wanting to use? Or if using the Pro - what functions are you always using >that aren't in the standard? there is a website <http://www.photodex.com/products/compupic_diff.html> that displays the differences. Check there to see exact comparisons. The two things I think making the Pro version my pick are: I can make a CD to send to anyone else (genealogy is my hobby), and I can do batch conversions on files--it's a point and click process, very easy. I am not an employee, BTW, just like the product. rondie >Cheers, >Cathy > >At 10:23 19/11/02 -0700, you wrote: > >>At 02:53 PM 11/19/02 +0800, you wrote: >>>csv file is a simple comma delimited text file. It's formed from a >>>database or spreadsheet and each field is separated with a comma. You >>>can then read it into a another spreadsheet or table or database etc. >> >>This method is ingenious--but so hard ( and time consuming!). Try some >>of the other programs that have been mentioned. As, I said, I use and >>love Compupic. It is easy and very, very flexible. If you buy the Pro >>version you can burn to CDs. You can index your pictures with cross >>indexing, sorting in any way you wish. It creates the thumbnails for >>you, and will show any graphic material that is on your computer or your >>other media (floppies, CDs, whatever) automatically, you don't have to do >>anything but click on it. There are other programs like compupic...this >>is just the one I know the best. If you are wanting to compare, type >>"digital manager" into your search engine, find/download/try as many as >>you have the patience to try.....but make life easy for yourself. good >>luck, rondie >> >>

Hi Rondie, Can you tell us a little more about Compupic. I've looked at their pages on the web but can't find the answers to what I want to know. Perhaps I will have to download it. Can you update the descriptions/comments or whatever Compupic calls it for a selected group of pictures or only one at a time? Anything that requires one at a time input is beyond my time limitations. Obviously some need editing individually but a basic indication of family group is better than nothing. Can you export the resulting database or is it locked in their format so that you've lost everything in a few years when the new computer won't run the program and Compupic hasn't put out an update but has disappeared? This is the value of being able to export a .csv or some other generic format. A useable import of a .csv would help too being able to map fields in the .csv to fields in Compupic. You've answered one of the questions about the difference between the Pro and the ordinary version. Which are you using? If you are using the standard Compupic - what functions from the Pro version are you always wanting to use? Or if using the Pro - what functions are you always using that aren't in the standard? Cheers, Cathy At 10:23 19/11/02 -0700, you wrote: >At 02:53 PM 11/19/02 +0800, you wrote: >>csv file is a simple comma delimited text file. It's formed from a >>database or spreadsheet and each field is separated with a comma. You can >>then read it into a another spreadsheet or table or database etc. > >This method is ingenious--but so hard ( and time consuming!). Try some of >the other programs that have been mentioned. As, I said, I use and love >Compupic. It is easy and very, very flexible. If you buy the Pro version >you can burn to CDs. You can index your pictures with cross indexing, >sorting in any way you wish. It creates the thumbnails for you, and will >show any graphic material that is on your computer or your other media >(floppies, CDs, whatever) automatically, you don't have to do anything but >click on it. There are other programs like compupic...this is just the >one I know the best. If you are wanting to compare, type "digital >manager" into your search engine, find/download/try as many as you have >the patience to try.....but make life easy for yourself. good luck, rondie > > >

Mary Bull wrote: > Hello Rondie, > > This is my first posting to Scanners-Photos-L. I started reading it > last Friday, November 15. I am having a computer built for me with > generic parts and have asked them to put in ports for both my printers > and an extra port for a scanner. There will be buttons to switch with, > on-screen, between the color Deskjet and the black-and-white Laserjet. M One comment I have... Since you are having a computer built for you... another option is to have another printer port installed. It makes my printing life so much easier. I have an old dot matrix I still use for labels, my workhorse laser, and a color ink jet (USB). They are all hooked up and ready to go - just a matter of selecting which printer to use at the print command. Don't understand "buttons to switch". Just something to think about. If it doesn't come with, installing the printer card was so easy, I did it myself. In the old days, I had an AB box which was a real pain. Ever since then, I've had two printer ports and now with USB ports, you can have as many printers hooked up as you want/need. J -- Joyce Ragels Tucson Arizona USA A computer lets you make more mistakes faster than any invention in human history - with the possible exceptions of handguns and tequila. - Mitch Radcliffe

Hello Rondie, This is my first posting to Scanners-Photos-L. I started reading it last Friday, November 15. I am having a computer built for me with generic parts and have asked them to put in ports for both my printers and an extra port for a scanner. There will be buttons to switch with, on-screen, between the color Deskjet and the black-and-white Laserjet. What scanner brands do you and the others like best? I am going to buy a scanner as soon as my new computer system is here. I want it for doing genealogy plus old photos, and for doing a family album. A little off-topic, "Yancey" is in my genealogy. My mother's grandmother, Elizabeth Baggett, was married to William P.S. Yancey in Alabama, and she had three little boys by him. Mr. Yancey was killed in a hunting accident, just after the Civil War. Elizabeth moved to Wood County, Texas (Mineola), where she married George Waddy Butler, my great-grandfather, who in this way acquired the young Yancey children as his own. Through my great-grandmother I am related to those Yancey descendants, but I've never found any of them. Your last name, Rondie, made me wonder if you have any information about Yancey lines. -- Mary The Bat! Email - Unofficial Support Board http://the-bat-forums.donzeigler.com Monday, November 18, 2002, 11:04:09 AM, you wrote: RY> There are many excellent programs that will do this, but may I recommend RY> either "Thumbs plus" or "Compupic" to you as good choices. I use Compupic RY> and wouldn't be without it. It does everything you ask, plus much much RY> more. Both of these programs offer a free demo...try them out & see if you RY> like them. rondie RY> At 07:40 PM 11/17/02 -0800, you wrote: >>Hello List, >> >>This is my first posting here. I would like to request help on choosing a >>program. >> >>I have dozens of very old photographs which I have scanned and put on a >>disk but I would like to purchase a program which would enable me to group >>these photos in different categories and add fairly lengthy text. This >>program should also be searchable by different criteria e.g. by >>photographer, subject or city. >> >>I use an HP 5400c scanner with Windows 98. Any help would be most >>appreciated. >> >>Carol >>Coquitlam, B.C.

Dear Ann, Thanks for the tip. I'll try it. Most of what I see, though, on this list is for Windows. Natalie >Using a scanner doesn't depend on your operating system. If you are just >starting, try going to www.scantips.com and start from the beginning. This >is a great learning place. > >Your photo editing package also works on any operating system. Try going to >Help and going through the tutorial before you tackle it. > >Ann > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Natalie R. Friend" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:08 PM >Subject: [SP] MAC USERS? > > >> Hello, >> I'm new to this list, and find I am more befuddled than previously. Mostly >> I don't know what you're talking about. >> >> I do not DO Windows. >> >> I have a MAC G-3, syst. v. 8.6, and as my late husband did all the >> graphics, I am having to start from scratch to learn 1) Scanning (have >> Epson 1250, with attachment for slides); 2) Saving, 3) touch-ups; 4) >> reducing size for inclusion in a book (Microsoft Word 6). I have >Photoshop >> LE, and Photo Deluxe. >> >> Any help here? >> >> Thanks for anything you can tell me. >> >> Natalie >> >> >> >> >>

csv file is a simple comma delimited text file. It's formed from a database or spreadsheet and each field is separated with a comma. You can then read it into a another spreadsheet or table or database etc. I'm also interested in how much space is being used up. I've added about 4000 digital camera photos to BR Photoarchiver. It works from 6 files + files of thumbnails which are limited to about 16MB it seems. I'm onto the third of these - so I have 9 files which together are 35.2MB. However, each time you close it makes a type of backup file. You can import this into a new blank index and it rebuilds everything. Currently this file is about 600 kb. It took about 15 minutes to remake the thumbnails. I'm not sure how it would work if the photos were on several different CDs but I suspect you'd be asked to insert the relevant CD since the program is designed to help keep track of photos on numerous CDs. There are some things that I don't like. You cannot reorder the photos. They are ordered by the ID they are given when you add them and you can't sort on any other field. You can select by category but again the photos are presented in ID order. You can generate web-pages and make CDs of selected photos but again you can't control the order. The CDs come with a Photoviewer which has an interface much the same as the program except that a simple slideshow is added. Selected photos can also be copied to a new folder - and in the process be resized if desired. Cheers, Cathy At 19:17 18/11/02 -0800, you wrote: >Hi Cathy, > >Thanks for your input - I appreciate it very much. Unfortunately, I am >still "computer-challenged" and haven't got a clue what a .csv file is. I'm >beginning to think I should just use Excel to copy the photographer, city >etc. into descriptions of each photo and leave it at that. At least I >wouldn't be re-entering the pictures and taking up so much room on my hard >drive. > >Thanks again, > >Carol

I just got something in the mail today, advertising a Photo Management System. You can find it at: http://www.photocollector.net/isthebest/ Check it out, it might be what you want. Bob Anderson at Apple Valley, Minnesota [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "h2owgn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: [SP] Digital Photo Albums > > > Hello List, > > This is my first posting here. I would like to request help on choosing a program. > > I have dozens of very old photographs which I have scanned and put on a disk but I would like to purchase a program which would enable me to group these photos in different categories and add fairly lengthy text. This program should also be searchable by different criteria e.g. by photographer, subject or city. > > I use an HP 5400c scanner with Windows 98. Any help would be most appreciated. > > Carol > Coquitlam, B.C. > >

At 02:53 PM 11/19/02 +0800, you wrote: >csv file is a simple comma delimited text file. It's formed from a >database or spreadsheet and each field is separated with a comma. You can >then read it into a another spreadsheet or table or database etc. This method is ingenious--but so hard ( and time consuming!). Try some of the other programs that have been mentioned. As, I said, I use and love Compupic. It is easy and very, very flexible. If you buy the Pro version you can burn to CDs. You can index your pictures with cross indexing, sorting in any way you wish. It creates the thumbnails for you, and will show any graphic material that is on your computer or your other media (floppies, CDs, whatever) automatically, you don't have to do anything but click on it. There are other programs like compupic...this is just the one I know the best. If you are wanting to compare, type "digital manager" into your search engine, find/download/try as many as you have the patience to try.....but make life easy for yourself. good luck, rondie

Hi, I'm also searching for a good photo catalogue program at the moment. I have used INFO SELECT in the past from DOS days into WINDOWS - but not for photos. I have abandoned it in favour of Clipmate as I didn't use lots of the features of Info Select - basically only the free form database - and it's a bit pricey. I have been using CLOOZ just to catalogue pictures - entering other documents to me seems double entry. I put everything I want in Legacy - but I have benefited by the CLOOZ suggestions for organising the paper mountain :-). The CLOOZ photo section is nice BUT nothing is automatically entered and it makes a huge file. You have to make the thumbnails yourself and then cut and paste them in. You can export the data to a .csv file but that doesn't include the thumbnail. I'm about to abandon CLOOZ. I haven't been able to use this feature to import into the following program because it requires the filename as the key in import and I was lazy when adding photos in Clooz and didn't put in the full path and name. At the moment I'm trialing BR PHOTOARCHIVER. It has a 60 day trial. So far I like a lot about it. It imports a thumbnail, filename, EXIF info (filling in the Date from this). You can control the ID number given. You can shift the photos to another folder/drive and tell it where they've gone. You can search on date or keyword etc and place photos in your own categories. Photos are added (if desired) under a To_be_described category. I'm getting quite a lot of use out of it without having added many descriptions. I like the bulk update feature which allows you to fill in a field for selected photos. You can add your own custom fields though I haven't tried this yet. eg: in one process I can add a description "Christmas 2001" to the family photos I took then. The bulk update allows you to: replace the current field, only operate if the field is blank or add to the current info. You can export the data as a .csv file. This means you haven't lost everything but whether you can really import this into anything else but Excel etc, I don't know. I have also been impressed with speed of response from support - I sent in a query one afternoon and had a response in my email next morning. http://www.br-software.com/ I haven't looked at the others mentioned below but will take a look at them and any other suggestions. I have had a quick look at MyAlbum - but have already uninstalled it. Cheers, Cathy At 10:04 18/11/02 -0700, you wrote: >There are many excellent programs that will do this, but may I recommend >either "Thumbs plus" or "Compupic" to you as good choices. I use Compupic >and wouldn't be without it. It does everything you ask, plus much much >more. Both of these programs offer a free demo...try them out & see if >you like them. rondie > >At 07:40 PM 11/17/02 -0800, you wrote: > > >>Hello List, >> >>This is my first posting here. I would like to request help on choosing >>a program. >> >>I have dozens of very old photographs which I have scanned and put on a >>disk but I would like to purchase a program which would enable me to >>group these photos in different categories and add fairly lengthy >>text. This program should also be searchable by different criteria e.g. >>by photographer, subject or city. >> >>I use an HP 5400c scanner with Windows 98. Any help would be most >>appreciated. >> >>Carol >>Coquitlam, B.C.

Using a scanner doesn't depend on your operating system. If you are just starting, try going to www.scantips.com and start from the beginning. This is a great learning place. Your photo editing package also works on any operating system. Try going to Help and going through the tutorial before you tackle it. Ann ----- Original Message ----- From: "Natalie R. Friend" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 3:08 PM Subject: [SP] MAC USERS? > Hello, > I'm new to this list, and find I am more befuddled than previously. Mostly > I don't know what you're talking about. > > I do not DO Windows. > > I have a MAC G-3, syst. v. 8.6, and as my late husband did all the > graphics, I am having to start from scratch to learn 1) Scanning (have > Epson 1250, with attachment for slides); 2) Saving, 3) touch-ups; 4) > reducing size for inclusion in a book (Microsoft Word 6). I have Photoshop > LE, and Photo Deluxe. > > Any help here? > > Thanks for anything you can tell me. > > Natalie > > > > >

FTM scrapbooks items can have categories if you want to use that field for location or photographer's name. FTM files can be read directly from CDs so the pictures do not need to remain on the hard drive but uncompressed copies of individual scans should be backed up separately from FTM data files with scrapbooks. Consider about 250 medium size pictures per file. My largest has 750 small pictures (240 pixels) and some scrapbook files have a few dozen digital camera pictures 1600x1200 pixel JPG. Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- > The reason why I want a digital album is that I could > enter all these pictures and sort them using different criteria. I would > like, for instance, to be able to call up all photos taken in Quebec and > then further group these into photographer, city or subject. Some photos > have obscure writing on the back and I would also like to enter these words. > That way if I find, for instance, a particular photographer - I can call up > all photos made by him without disturbing the original pictures which I have > carefully put in acid free sleeves.

----- Original Message ----- From: "h2owgn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, November 18, 2002 7:17 PM Subject: Re: [SP] Digital Photo Albums Dear Carol, Sounds like you program would be just the thing for a beginner? Can you share the simple directions for what you feel is the best for us green horns!!!!! Thanks for sharing and reading my emai. Vera Holman > Hi Cathy, > > Thanks for your input - I appreciate it very much. Unfortunately, I am > still "computer-challenged" and haven't got a clue what a .csv file is. I'm > beginning to think I should just use Excel to copy the photographer, city > etc. into descriptions of each photo and leave it at that. At least I > wouldn't be re-entering the pictures and taking up so much room on my hard > drive. > > Thanks again, > > Carol > >

Hi Cathy, Thanks for your input - I appreciate it very much. Unfortunately, I am still "computer-challenged" and haven't got a clue what a .csv file is. I'm beginning to think I should just use Excel to copy the photographer, city etc. into descriptions of each photo and leave it at that. At least I wouldn't be re-entering the pictures and taking up so much room on my hard drive. Thanks again, Carol

Hello All! I would like to thank Elizabeth, Ron, John, Rondie and "E." for all your great suggestions regarding my search for a digital album. I'm checking out each and every one. I think Info Select looks awesome but I'm afraid it's too pricey for Santa. As I am still rather new at all this, (3 years) I'm hoping to find a simple program. I think I've figured out the scanner and my Picture It program and have even learned to put photos into text programs. I do use Family Tree Maker (and love it!!) and have put photos into that program. Now, if I could just figure out the CD Rewriter!! The main reason I got "into" genealogy is that I was given dozens of very old photographs. In the beginning most of the subjects in these photos were unidentified - and THAT made me crazy!! I couldn't abide not knowing who these people were. I have worked my way through quite a few but many, many remain mysteries. The reason why I want a digital album is that I could enter all these pictures and sort them using different criteria. I would like, for instance, to be able to call up all photos taken in Quebec and then further group these into photographer, city or subject. Some photos have obscure writing on the back and I would also like to enter these words. That way if I find, for instance, a particular photographer - I can call up all photos made by him without disturbing the original pictures which I have carefully put in acid free sleeves. I'm so glad to have been told about this site. Thanks again Ron! Carol Coquitlam, B.C.

Hello, I'm new to this list, and find I am more befuddled than previously. Mostly I don't know what you're talking about. I do not DO Windows. I have a MAC G-3, syst. v. 8.6, and as my late husband did all the graphics, I am having to start from scratch to learn 1) Scanning (have Epson 1250, with attachment for slides); 2) Saving, 3) touch-ups; 4) reducing size for inclusion in a book (Microsoft Word 6). I have Photoshop LE, and Photo Deluxe. Any help here? Thanks for anything you can tell me. Natalie

There are many excellent programs that will do this, but may I recommend either "Thumbs plus" or "Compupic" to you as good choices. I use Compupic and wouldn't be without it. It does everything you ask, plus much much more. Both of these programs offer a free demo...try them out & see if you like them. rondie At 07:40 PM 11/17/02 -0800, you wrote: >Hello List, > >This is my first posting here. I would like to request help on choosing a >program. > >I have dozens of very old photographs which I have scanned and put on a >disk but I would like to purchase a program which would enable me to group >these photos in different categories and add fairly lengthy text. This >program should also be searchable by different criteria e.g. by >photographer, subject or city. > >I use an HP 5400c scanner with Windows 98. Any help would be most >appreciated. > >Carol >Coquitlam, B.C.

Info Select, available from www.miclog.com will allow you to do that and has an excellent search feature. In fact, I plan to do a short review on both that and Clooz (http://www.clooz.com/) in The Electronic Genealogist in the near future. Not this week - I've just installed the latest version of Info Select and it's going to take me a few days to start getting back up to speed on that one, and I've not even started looking into Clooz yet. But soon. I'll also have a longer and much more detailed review of Info Select on my BizSolver website at: http://bizsolver.biz/ in the near future as well. Info Select handles GIF, JPEG, PNG, WMF, and BMP files. It does NOT handle tiff, though you can index, with captions and notes, to any file format with clickable links. That makes it possible to search for them, click the link, and open whatever type of file in the appropriate program. You'd have to learn this program a bit to understand what I'm referring to here, but you can literally create simple databases in about any form you want and the search capability is pretty incredible. Info Select is an exceptional PIM (Personal Information Manager) that is a bit pricey, but also handles projects, scheduling, reminders, to-do, archiving (and searching) those thousands of notes in easy note form, and even handling your email (it has its own built-in email program, but I'm not entirely satisfied with that just yet...:>). Email, incidentally can be converted into an email database - or individual databases for various topics, senders, whatever - which still remains email. And those emails can then be moved into any of your various working databases. For example, I have databases (two) for one publisher who published hundreds of my articles over the last several years, a genealogy database, a newer one for The Electronic Genealogist, one for humor - with thousands of jokes filed away over the years - broken into categories, one for my consulting & marketing work, an archive of my articles, an archive of my interview and data reference files, a personal file, and so on. Each of these may contain email, text files, graphic files, webpages, Word documents, databases, spread sheets. Any can be opened or close individually; I can have them all open (which definitely strains my computer's resources) or only one. And the access is fast, the searching is easy. It's an all-in-one work station that allows me to track *all* my various interests and work in one program. Well, I didn't intend to do a review here... :>) A lot of people in genealogy prefer Clooz, but I can't really comment on that just yet. I've tried it in the past, but wasn't overly impressed - perhaps because I'd been using Info Select (version 4 - hadn't upgraded in years so I've a lot to learn on the new version). But I intend to look at it again very soon and more closely than in the past, so I can give an honest review. trapper John Lancaster, author of The Electronic Genealogist The FREE Weekly Genealogy Site Review Email Letter http://bizsolver.biz/teg/ Email: mailto:[email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "h2owgn" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: [SP] Digital Photo Albums > > > Hello List, > > This is my first posting here. I would like to request help on choosing a program. > > I have dozens of very old photographs which I have scanned and put on a disk but I would like to purchase a program which would enable me to group these photos in different categories and add fairly lengthy text. This program should also be searchable by different criteria e.g. by photographer, subject or city. > > I use an HP 5400c scanner with Windows 98. Any help would be most appreciated. > > Carol > Coquitlam, B.C. > >

It is hard to guess which "album" programs will survive because everyone recommends a different one. I use a genealogy program for more than 25,000 pictures in preference to any of the software supplied with scanners or CD writers. Each scrapbook tells the life story of a person, household (groups, sources) or topic. If many details are entered into one album program, it may not be possible to transfer them to a second album program. I keep pictures in simple Windows folders with date first in the file name so they play back in slide shows in logical order. A simple text file in each folder could be used for notes. Consider how an album would be moved to a different computer with different drive letter or path to the individual pictures. Elizabeth in Alberta, using WinXP Pro & 512 RAM ----- Original Message ----- > I have dozens of very old photographs which I have scanned and put on a disk but I would like to purchase a program which would enable me to group these photos in different categories and add fairly lengthy text. This program should also be searchable by different criteria e.g. by photographer, subject or city. > I use an HP 5400c scanner with Windows 98. Any help would be most appreciated. > Carol