Jake, The actual hardware is just the first part of your battle. The HP5370C is only 1200dpi, and suitable for prints up to 4"x6". For increased resolution, you might want to look at something like the Kodak RFS3600 (3600dpi) or the Microtek ArtixScan 4000T (4000dpi), or if you really want the buy the best, go for the Minolta Dimage Scan Elite 5400 (5400dpi). The problem with using consumer-grade flattop scanners is that they can't be focused. The transparency adapters hold your film a smidgen above the glass (to avoid Newton Rings) and your film isn't perfectly flat. Consequently, there is no way to get sharp focus on the full frame. Dedicated film scanners like the Minolta have the ability to be manually focused on the film emulsion. Combined with the superior resolution, the end result is a very sharp scan. Then there are drum scanners, but they are probably beyond your budget. Drum scanners, however, allow you to mount your films in oil and they can scan a 35mm at 10,000dpi or more. If you search Google for "drum scans," you will turn up people who provide this service on their equipment that cost them over 5 figures. The other part of your battle is your own understanding of color theory and negative film emulsions. I won't get into any dissertations about "How-To-Scan" here. <smile> Suffice to say that scanning is as much an art is it is a science, and that experience is the best teacher. (Unless you know a veteran drum scanner operator who worked in a large printing company or prepress house. Like me!) If you'd like an assessment of your efforts so far, email me a couple of your scans and I will take a look. Scott Orlowski On Track Communications [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [SP] film scanners -- need info > > What size negatives do you wish to scan? > A: 35mm > > > > How many negatives do you have? Or what will your ongoing volume of scans? > A: hundreds . . . > > > > What will the final output be? Internet use? Photo prints? Printed > > literature? Posters? Billboards? > A: mostly photo prints, some internet and posters. > > > > When you say that you "have not had any luck," what products/methods have > > you already used? > A: flat bed scanners, but maybe I just don't understand how to do it. The > quality is just not there. I don't mind spending money, if the product does > what I want it to do. I latest scanner is HP 5370C. > > Jake

Sarah, Please point me to the image that you want to use, and I will see if I can offer some advice. Scott Orlowski On Track Communications [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "sarah rose" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:37 AM Subject: [SP] photo enlargement help needed > I finally figured out how to do a gen website---now I'm putting together a spiral bound book but am having problems with the cover. I went to clipart.com because they give copyright to the photos there (for a fee). I found a great nature photo but when I enlarged it for my cover it looked awful and very blotchy. Can SKS offer easy directions for this OR know of any places that have free larger photos that we can use without copyright infringement? preferable larger than thumbnail size? Thank you so VERY much for any help. Sarah [email protected] > > > signature: > new updates at my website > check for your surnames. > http://www.gaia.edu/genclass/srose/ > > >

Jake, It's difficult to answer your question without more information... What size negatives do you wish to scan? How many negatives do you have? Or what will your ongoing volume of scans? What will the final output be? Internet use? Photo prints? Printed literature? Posters? Billboards? When you say that you "have not had any luck," what products/methods have you already used? Looking forward to your reply, Scott Orlowski On Track Communications [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jake" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2003 10:57 AM Subject: [SP] film scanners -- need info > Good morning everyone, > > Does anyone have any experience with film scanners. I have not had any luck > with scanning negatives with flat bed scanners. I'm researching a > "SmartScan 3600" right now . . . and it sounds good, but it's allot of money > to spend if it doesn't work. Any help in this area would be greatly > appreciated. > > Jake > > >

This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C393DB.E845B830 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > What size negatives do you wish to scan? A: 35mm > > How many negatives do you have? Or what will your ongoing volume of scans? A: hundreds . . . > > What will the final output be? Internet use? Photo prints? Printed > literature? Posters? Billboards? A: mostly photo prints, some internet and posters. > > When you say that you "have not had any luck," what products/methods have > you already used? A: flat bed scanners, but maybe I just don't understand how to do it. The quality is just not there. I don't mind spending money, if the product does what I want it to do. I latest scanner is HP 5370C. Jake ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C393DB.E845B830 Content-Type: text/x-vcard; name="Jake.vcf" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename="Jake.vcf" BEGIN:VCARD VERSION:2.1 N:;Jake FN:Jake EMAIL;PREF;INTERNET:[email protected] REV:20031016T185200Z END:VCARD ------=_NextPart_000_0013_01C393DB.E845B830--

Good morning everyone, Does anyone have any experience with film scanners. I have not had any luck with scanning negatives with flat bed scanners. I'm researching a "SmartScan 3600" right now . . . and it sounds good, but it's allot of money to spend if it doesn't work. Any help in this area would be greatly appreciated. Jake

I finally figured out how to do a gen website---now I'm putting together a spiral bound book but am having problems with the cover. I went to clipart.com because they give copyright to the photos there (for a fee). I found a great nature photo but when I enlarged it for my cover it looked awful and very blotchy. Can SKS offer easy directions for this OR know of any places that have free larger photos that we can use without copyright infringement? preferable larger than thumbnail size? Thank you so VERY much for any help. Sarah [email protected] signature: new updates at my website check for your surnames. http://www.gaia.edu/genclass/srose/

Do you mean that they are saying that a c-d that has been cut is only readable for 2-3 yrs ? or does it depend on how mamy times one reads them ? Aileen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha M" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 5:53 AM Subject: [SP] CD-R and RW > Good morning, > > I heard last weekend they are finding that the CD-R & RW are lasting only two or so years. I believe I heard it on Kim Kamando's radio program. Does anyone have any information on this? Is there a difference in CD's and if so which brand would be the best and last longer? > > I have put my photo's on CD's and would hate to lose them by waiting too long to do it again. Would we be better off putting photos on a Zip disk since they now have disks that will hold over 700 MG? > > Thanks for your help, > > Martha M > >

So-called "bargain basement" or "generic" blank CDs may be of a lesser quality than "branded" blanks CDs. If the quality control measures utilized in the manufacturing processes are less stringent (or non-existent), such "inferior" CDs may "leak" around their perimeter and allow oxygen to penetrate the perimeter and to reach the recordable surface. The metal interior then starts to oxidize and the information recorded on the interior metal surface may become corrupt. If you severely scratch or nick the edge of any CD, you should consider making a copy of it, since the damage may allow the CD's recorded surface to begin oxidizing. What brand should you buy? There is no single answer to this question, except to say that you generally get what you pay for. Consider the type of information that you will be recording on the CD. Here at On Track Communications, we use generic CDs to deliver data to our clients and to transport photos and information from one place to another. Those CDs are not intended to be archival, but we make two copies of everything. We have had clients call and say, "We can't read this CD anymore," and we have always had our second copy in the files. Now consider this: we "backup" all of the information that flows through our computers onto magnetic tape and we "archive" all of the photos on DVDs. The key ingredient in our workflow is redundancy. If one medium fails, there is always another copy to retrieve. Does it matter how many times one reads them? No. A CD's life-span is virtually unlimited in this respect. However, a CD that is read frequently is probably handled frequently, so it is more suseptible to edge damage. This is why the audio CDs that you carry in your car will fail more frequently than those in your home. The ones in your car get beat up and then oxygen leaks into them. What to do? If you have precious data on CD and it is irreplacable, make another copy. You might want to buy a package of 24k gold CDs to archive your most precious photographs and then store them in a safe place. But don't panic and worry that all of your data is at risk. And don't think that your CDs are all going to fail. Just make extra copies of the things that are irreplacable. Scott Orlowski www.ontrackcommunications.com

Photos on a CD can be copied to almost any hard drive that has sufficient space on any computer. Use of a Zip disk would limit the use of the pictures to a specific kind of reader. Multiple copies on CD stored in multiple locations would be easier to manage and probably less expensive, also playable on a television screen using a recent DVD player. -- Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- > I have put my photo's on CD's and would hate to lose them by waiting too long to do it again. Would we be better off putting photos on a Zip disk since they now have disks that will hold over 700 MG? > Martha M

Good morning, I heard last weekend they are finding that the CD-R & RW are lasting only two or so years. I believe I heard it on Kim Kamando's radio program. Does anyone have any information on this? Is there a difference in CD's and if so which brand would be the best and last longer? I have put my photo's on CD's and would hate to lose them by waiting too long to do it again. Would we be better off putting photos on a Zip disk since they now have disks that will hold over 700 MG? Thanks for your help, Martha M

--=======5A595568======= Content-Type: text/plain; x-avg-checked=avg-ok-304B3C02; charset=us-ascii; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Hi Jean, Whether or not you can get a larger picture depends on the scanning resolution of your scanner. I don't know the HP ScanJet 5370c but use the highest resolution it will give you. If the result isn't clear you need to come down a bit. That's my experience anyway. With my new scanner I seem to be able to scan beyond the detail available in the photo or slide - but it so much depends on the slide or photo. A good sharp photo or slide can be scanned at a higher resolution than a poor one. See www.scantips.com to learn more about resolution. Cheers, Cathy At 22:52 24/07/2003 -0500, you wrote: >HI! > >I have a HP ScanJet 5370c that sets up to scan slides. I have managed to >get a fairly good copy of one slide but am hopeful someone on the list can >tell me the best settings. I want to be able to print these pictures and >want as much clairity as possible. What I've encountered is the scanned >pics are very small and when enlarged they loose detail. Is there a way to >solve this??? > >Jean --=======5A595568=======--

HI! I have a HP ScanJet 5370c that sets up to scan slides. I have managed to get a fairly good copy of one slide but am hopeful someone on the list can tell me the best settings. I want to be able to print these pictures and want as much clairity as possible. What I've encountered is the scanned pics are very small and when enlarged they loose detail. Is there a way to solve this??? Jean

Jean, Try 600 dpi when you are scanning a slide or a small area of a snapshot. 100 dpi might be enough for a full page picture or document. I like to pick my own settings depending on the planned use of the image file rather than use the default setting in the scanner software. I've worked with three slide scanners that can save about 2400 dpi for 35mm slides. The usual problem is working with files that are very large, around 16 mb each. A more expensive slide scanner allows adjustments prior to the scan, setting the darkest and lightest areas. One of my display pictures has mountains in bright sun and people in dark shade that didn't show at all with an automatic setting. -- Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jean Jones" > I have a HP ScanJet 5370c that sets up to scan slides. I have managed to > get a fairly good copy of one slide but am hopeful someone on the list can > tell me the best settings. I want to be able to print these pictures and > want as much clairity as possible. What I've encountered is the scanned > pics are very small and when enlarged they loose detail. Is there a way to > solve this???

Don, As far as the scanner itself goes, pretty much any flatbed scanner with a USB interface will work. Just look for one that says it's compatible with a Mac. The important part is finding OCR software for the Macintosh, and some scanners come bundled with such software already. The Canon 5000F comes with a lite Mac version of Omnipage OCR software: http://www.usa.canon.com/html/conCprProductDetail.jsp?modelid=8053&item=8052&section=10218 For stand-alone software: Readiris Pro is a good product: http://www.irisusa.com/products/readiris/mac/index.html ABBYY Finereader is another: http://www.abbyy-finereader.com/ Good luck in your quest, Scott Orlowski http://ontrackcommunications.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donald l Ruddy" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 12:14 PM Subject: [SP] Looking for help > Hi, I got this address from a friend of mine for digital photography > info. Another friend has a new MAC and wants to find an OCR scanner that > will work with it. > Can anyone supply me with sites or info for him?

Hi, I got this address from a friend of mine for digital photography info. Another friend has a new MAC and wants to find an OCR scanner that will work with it. Can anyone supply me with sites or info for him? Thank you Don PS enjoy the information that comes thru.

Susanne Nice site. J Susanne Hackbarth wrote: > Folks, I don't think this is off topic. I was seaching the web > for something not to do with scanning and came upon this website. > All kinds of software, with a listing for Braille. Under the > computer section is Scanning Software. I thought maybe someone > might be interested in reading about this. > > http://www.independentliving.com/index_cando.htm > > I know nothing about this website. > > Susanne > > > -- Joyce Ragels There are years that ask questions, and years that answer. - Zora Neale Hurston

Folks, I don't think this is off topic. I was seaching the web for something not to do with scanning and came upon this website. All kinds of software, with a listing for Braille. Under the computer section is Scanning Software. I thought maybe someone might be interested in reading about this. http://www.independentliving.com/index_cando.htm I know nothing about this website. Susanne

Thanks Mary, This does the trick. I had turned of some of the other automatic stuff, but missed that. I will probably just save the whole large strip and then edit it with other software. That will be faster. Thanks again, Tom Mary <[email protected]> wrote: I have the Epson 1660 and was playing with strips of microfilm:) and found that it would cut off the edges BUT when you go to Configuration and then under the preview tab, unclick Automatic Thumbnail Preview for Film. What this does is that it just shows the complete strip, then you need to mark of the area that you want scanned. I find the Full Auto mode or any other Automatic features can cause these types of problems. Bye for now Mary Muir [email protected] http://www.genealogy.bc.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Risinger" To: Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [SP] Epson scanner > > There are both 35mm and "other" sized slides. The 35mm ones usually scan right. The ones that are square in shape are the ones that will generate the problem. This only happens to maybe one out of twenty or so. I think it is the software that is cropping the image and I can not get it to stop. For what ever reason the software is not recognizing the edge of the picture. The scanner, scans the long film strips negatives and puts them into individual pictures very well. > > Tom > > > "E.Rodier" wrote:A 35mm slide is rectangular. You might have some slides that are verticals > and some horizontals. Use the image software to rotate any that have to be > scanned sideways. If that isn't the problem, the image software may be set > to scan a cropped area of one slide and you need to select the whole > rectangle shape for the next one. -- Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "T. Risinger" > > I recently purchased an Epson Perfection 2400 Photo scanner. I bought this > to scan film and slides. When scanning slides it will crop off part of the > top and bottom or left and right sides occationally. I will scan about the > middle half of the picture, usually. Can anyone tell me why this is > happening? > > > > > > T. Risinger > > Home Page: http://www.t-risinger.com/ > Webmaster for Eastern Nebr. Gun Club: http://www.engcinc.org/ > Assistant Coordinator for Knox Co. NEGenWeb Proj.: http://www.rootsweb.com/~neknox/ > Webmaster for The Butterfield Family: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~butterfield/ > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > > T. Risinger Home Page: http://www.t-risinger.com/ Webmaster for Eastern Nebr. Gun Club: http://www.engcinc.org/ Assistant Coordinator for Knox Co. NEGenWeb Proj.: http://www.rootsweb.com/~neknox/ Webmaster for The Butterfield Family: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~butterfield/ --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

I have the Epson 1660 and was playing with strips of microfilm:) and found that it would cut off the edges BUT when you go to Configuration and then under the preview tab, unclick Automatic Thumbnail Preview for Film. What this does is that it just shows the complete strip, then you need to mark of the area that you want scanned. I find the Full Auto mode or any other Automatic features can cause these types of problems. Bye for now Mary Muir [email protected] http://www.genealogy.bc.ca ----- Original Message ----- From: "T. Risinger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 16, 2003 6:43 PM Subject: Re: [SP] Epson scanner > > There are both 35mm and "other" sized slides. The 35mm ones usually scan right. The ones that are square in shape are the ones that will generate the problem. This only happens to maybe one out of twenty or so. I think it is the software that is cropping the image and I can not get it to stop. For what ever reason the software is not recognizing the edge of the picture. The scanner, scans the long film strips negatives and puts them into individual pictures very well. > > Tom > > > "E.Rodier" <[email protected]> wrote:A 35mm slide is rectangular. You might have some slides that are verticals > and some horizontals. Use the image software to rotate any that have to be > scanned sideways. If that isn't the problem, the image software may be set > to scan a cropped area of one slide and you need to select the whole > rectangle shape for the next one. -- Elizabeth > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "T. Risinger" > > I recently purchased an Epson Perfection 2400 Photo scanner. I bought this > to scan film and slides. When scanning slides it will crop off part of the > top and bottom or left and right sides occationally. I will scan about the > middle half of the picture, usually. Can anyone tell me why this is > happening? > > > > > > T. Risinger > > Home Page: http://www.t-risinger.com/ > Webmaster for Eastern Nebr. Gun Club: http://www.engcinc.org/ > Assistant Coordinator for Knox Co. NEGenWeb Proj.: http://www.rootsweb.com/~neknox/ > Webmaster for The Butterfield Family: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~butterfield/ > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > SBC Yahoo! DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > >

Can anyone tell me is there anyway I can scan microfiche? What sort of scanner would I need? At present I have a HP ScanJet 3C. If this is not possible has anyone had any success using a digital camera to take photos of microfiche? Any help appreciated. Thanks. Shirley