As list-owner, when the list is active I get lots of messages showing failure to deliver the message. This can be mailbox full, or often message not on friends list or some such. Now that spam is such a problem, ISP solutions sometimes hinder as much as help. If you are not getting messages call your ISP. [That is akin to "anyone who is not here raise their hand"] Ann Winder Listowner of Winder-L, Sifford-L, Scanners-Photos-L Homepage: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~annieron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Nick Ashby" <"nick."@zetnet.co.uk> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [SP] Scan to edit text > Not shure if this list is active,but in answer any OCR (Optical > Character Program) will d this by useing a scanner,saving as text > file.thet inputing into Word etc > > Nick Ashby > Eastcote > Middx > England > > Some messages I get some I dont > Sherry wrote: > > >Abbreviation for the list name "Scanners-Photos" > > > >Sherry > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > >Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:16 AM > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: Re: [SP] Scan to edit text > > > > > >Please, what is this [SP]? > > > >On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 07:32:10 -0800 "bvma" <[email protected]> writes: > > > > > >>When scanners first came out I heard that one could scan text, then > >>edit it with a word processor. Comments please..... Is this > >>possible? > >>Thanks - BA > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > > >. > > > > > > > > > >

I've had good luck in the past with my OmniPage, but when I bought my new computer with XP I lost the ability to scan text completely. I went to the HP site and the OmniPage site for upgraded drivers, but it didn't help any. I'm now only able to scan in .tiff mode and can't do any editing. Windows completely eliminated my use of OCR and just after I had bought OmniPage too!! When I could scan, I found that placing a sheet of white paper behind newsprint gave me the best recognition. I hadn't tried it with magazines. It also worked well with old wills and other documents in my genealogy. But, yes, handwritten documents are best with a graphic scan. Harold Williams [email protected] Give me a sense of humor, Lord, Give me the grace to see a joke, To get some humor out of life, And pass it on to other folk.

Thanks for all the help on scanning text. I found the program on my HP - G85 (4-in-1) printer. It did one pretty good copy, then decided to only copy half a page.

Not shure if this list is active,but in answer any OCR (Optical Character Program) will d this by useing a scanner,saving as text file.thet inputing into Word etc Nick Ashby Eastcote Middx England Some messages I get some I dont Sherry wrote: >Abbreviation for the list name "Scanners-Photos" > >Sherry > >-----Original Message----- >From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:16 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [SP] Scan to edit text > > >Please, what is this [SP]? > >On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 07:32:10 -0800 "bvma" <[email protected]> writes: > > >>When scanners first came out I heard that one could scan text, then >>edit it with a word processor. Comments please..... Is this >>possible? >>Thanks - BA >> >> >> > > > >. > > >

Thanks Sherry. Have a good day :) On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 12:00:55 -0800 "Sherry" <[email protected]> writes: > Because you signed up for the list somewhere along the line. > > If you don't want to be on the list, send a message to > [email protected] with a blank subject line > and > "unsubscribe" without the quotes typed in the body of the message. > > Sherry > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:40 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SP] Scan to edit text > > > Abbreviation for the list name "Scanners-Photos" > > Thanks for your response. Can you tell me why I am getting these > messages > about scanners? In other words why am I being e-mailed these > messages? > Would appreciate any explanation. > > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Abbreviation for the list name "Scanners-Photos" Thanks for your response. Can you tell me why I am getting these messages about scanners? In other words why am I being e-mailed these messages? Would appreciate any explanation. ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Please, what is this [SP]? On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 07:32:10 -0800 "bvma" <[email protected]> writes: > When scanners first came out I heard that one could scan text, then > edit it with a word processor. Comments please..... Is this > possible? > Thanks - BA > > > ________________________________________________________________ The best thing to hit the Internet in years - Juno SpeedBand! Surf the Web up to FIVE TIMES FASTER! Only $14.95/ month - visit www.juno.com to sign up today!

Split screen with a scanned image is a good idea. I transcribed many pages of the 1906 census for the local region with an image on the top half of the screen and spreadsheet open and the same time. Project coordinator had suggested left and right split screen but that seemed too easy to get on the wrong line. An LCD screen larger than 12 inches across might be helpful. It was helpful to have a separate computer with connection to the Internet for checking surnames in local history sources and post office locations. Downloaded OCR software may be limited to one computer with an activation system like Windows XP. The product that I registered about a year ago was not used, and the person who recommended it also went back to OmniPage. I'd be interested in your comments if you compare other OCR products with OmniPage for manual typewriter, old newspapers and old books. -- Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Owen Berio" > Some scanned images are too degraded for OCR. I am now considering to scan > images of that type and hand written documents into a format where I can > split the screen and have the image before me as I copy by hand into a text > file on the lower portion of the screen.

Even cooler yet are dual monitors <rbg> With my eyes,split screen isn't as easy to see. At the price of CRT monitors nowdays, it's really not that expensive. Sure wish I could afford dual LCD monitors so I could have some *desk* space! Sherry -----Original Message----- From: E.Rodier [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 12:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SP] Scan to edit text Split screen with a scanned image is a good idea. I transcribed many pages of the 1906 census for the local region with an image on the top half of the screen and spreadsheet open and the same time. Project coordinator had suggested left and right split screen but that seemed too easy to get on the wrong line. An LCD screen larger than 12 inches across might be helpful. <snip>

Wow! That's incredible! Looking around, I see v10 upgrade for $125.99 US or complete package for $465 at the cheapest. I don't see any versions mentioned earlier than v14 on Scansoft's site. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: John Zillwood [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 12:00 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SP] Scan to edit text <snip> I'm using Scansoft's Omnipage Pro 12 (OCR), it works extremely well. They have come out with version 14 and were selling off version 12 for $40 Canadian. Great deal! I guess they must be superstitious as there is no mention of version 13 :-) John Zillwood [email protected] Abbotsford Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~bcags/

You betcha!! To my knowledge, nearly all scanners come with software that will do the job. Like ALL software, some is better than others. I have two older programs that were designed to scan text and convert to MS Word, but the HP software that came with my 4570 works just fine. For some reason all three programs have the most trouble with newsprint, especially older clippings. Carl Sachs bvma wrote: > > When scanners first came out I heard that one could scan text, then edit it with a word processor. Comments please..... Is this possible? > Thanks - BA

Because you signed up for the list somewhere along the line. If you don't want to be on the list, send a message to [email protected] with a blank subject line and "unsubscribe" without the quotes typed in the body of the message. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:40 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SP] Scan to edit text Abbreviation for the list name "Scanners-Photos" Thanks for your response. Can you tell me why I am getting these messages about scanners? In other words why am I being e-mailed these messages? Would appreciate any explanation.

> I've never had any luck with OCR scanning. There were so many missed > letters, I found it easier just to type the text in rather than scan > and edit. Magazine articles were just as bad as newsprint and of > course, handwritten stuff is a total loss for OCR. > > However, I was using the OCR software that came with the scanner and I > understand the better the software is, the better the recognition. > > Sherry > To my knowledge, nearly all scanners come with software that will do > the job. Like ALL software, some is better than others. > > I have two older programs that were designed to scan text and convert > to MS Word, but the HP software that came with my 4570 works just > fine. For some reason all three programs have the most trouble with > newsprint, especially older clippings. > > Carl Sachs > > bvma wrote: >> >> When scanners first came out I heard that one could scan text, then >> edit it with a word processor. Comments please..... Is this >> possible? Thanks - BA I'm using Scansoft's Omnipage Pro 12 (OCR), it works extremely well. They have come out with version 14 and were selling off version 12 for $40 Canadian. Great deal! I guess they must be superstitious as there is no mention of version 13 :-) John Zillwood [email protected] Abbotsford Genealogical Society http://www.rootsweb.com/~bcags/

Abbreviation for the list name "Scanners-Photos" Sherry -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 11:16 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SP] Scan to edit text Please, what is this [SP]? On Sun, 7 Mar 2004 07:32:10 -0800 "bvma" <[email protected]> writes: > When scanners first came out I heard that one could scan text, then > edit it with a word processor. Comments please..... Is this > possible? > Thanks - BA >

Recent versions of OmniPage have worked best for me, allowing helpful conversion of 1930's manual typewriter carbon copy of a business report. Downloaded OCR software from outside the USA tried to recognize every syllable as a different English word. Some researchers deliberately publish a family book in a fancy font or a very small font to save publishing costs. It may be difficult to read or impossible to OCR if the author happens to lose the original "book" file. Old newspaper clippings and books around a hundred years are usually retyped or copied as images of each page. Retyping and editing time will depend on the original copy and the computer operator's skills. Most confusing OCR found by genealogists is from old books published with two columns and footnotes. The footnote ends up in the middle of an unrelated paragraph. Using a word processor, it is possible to add a blank line before and after the "footnote" then search through the text to find the number to match the footnote. -- Elizabeth ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sherry" > I was using the OCR software that came with the scanner and I understand the better the software is, the better the recognition.

Some scanned images are too degraded for OCR. I am now considering to scan images of that type and hand written documents into a format where I can split the screen and have the image before me as I copy by hand into a text file on the lower portion of the screen. One thing I discovered when scanning newspapers was that the printed type was of poor quality. When I say poor quality, it becomes obvious when the type was enlarged sufficiently for pixel management it revealed that some pixels of one character would actually be touching a pixel of the next character. This would foil the OCR program. At that time I was scanning from the local newspaper and noticed that many of these errors were exactly the same. To compensate I would correct the errors and add the correction to the software library. During the coming week I may download the ABBYY version 7.0 OCR software. There is a 15 day evaluation period. I will test it against the TextBridge and OmniPage that I now have. At 09:18 AM 3/7/2004 -0800, Sherry wrote: >I've never had any luck with OCR scanning. There were so many missed >letters, I found it easier just to type the text in rather than scan and >edit. Magazine articles were just as bad as newsprint and of course, >handwritten stuff is a total loss for OCR. > >However, I was using the OCR software that came with the scanner and I >understand the better the software is, the better the recognition. > >Sherry > >-----Original Message----- >From: Carl Sachs [mailto:[email protected]] >Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:11 AM >To: [email protected] >Subject: Re: [SP] Scan to edit text > > >You betcha!! > >To my knowledge, nearly all scanners come with software that will do the >job. Like ALL software, some is better than others. > >I have two older programs that were designed to scan text and convert to MS >Word, but the HP software that came with my 4570 works just fine. For some >reason all three programs have the most trouble with newsprint, especially >older clippings. > >Carl Sachs > >bvma wrote: > > > > When scanners first came out I heard that one could scan text, then > > edit it with a word processor. Comments please..... Is this > > possible? Thanks - BA

I've never had any luck with OCR scanning. There were so many missed letters, I found it easier just to type the text in rather than scan and edit. Magazine articles were just as bad as newsprint and of course, handwritten stuff is a total loss for OCR. However, I was using the OCR software that came with the scanner and I understand the better the software is, the better the recognition. Sherry -----Original Message----- From: Carl Sachs [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Sunday, March 07, 2004 9:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SP] Scan to edit text You betcha!! To my knowledge, nearly all scanners come with software that will do the job. Like ALL software, some is better than others. I have two older programs that were designed to scan text and convert to MS Word, but the HP software that came with my 4570 works just fine. For some reason all three programs have the most trouble with newsprint, especially older clippings. Carl Sachs bvma wrote: > > When scanners first came out I heard that one could scan text, then > edit it with a word processor. Comments please..... Is this > possible? Thanks - BA

When scanners first came out I heard that one could scan text, then edit it with a word processor. Comments please..... Is this possible? Thanks - BA

> > ? What is the best way to store photo's do not fancy the old style > albums,have seen ring binder pockets A4 size,that takes 2 8 x 5,but > are a tad dear.Thinking of mounting on A4 sheets and using A4 plastic > folders > > Nick Ashby > Eastcote > Middx > England >

Do you have enough printer memory? Go to CONTROL PANEL and open your printer file. From the PRINTER dropdown menu, select "Cancel all documents." Close the printer file and open Adobe Photoshop. Open your picture from the Photoshop FILE menu. Check to be sure you are printing the correct size photo, and try to print the photo. If you still get an error message, reboot your computer to clear the RAM on your computer and try again to print the photo. I don't know if this will solve your problem, but it's worked for me. Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2004 3:31 PM Subject: [SP] Re: SCANNERS-PHOTOS-D Digest V04 #4 > Can someone help? I have Adobe Photoshop 5.0 LE. When I try to open a > picture it says 'could not open "c:/... because an error occurred while > printing'. Thanks. > >