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    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery
    2. Margie King
    3. Thank you for the offer to search for my great grandmother but I know M. E. A. Puckett is buried there I visit each year at Christmas to put flowers on her grave. What I would like to do since I live within twenty miles is to help clean the cememtery on the weekends. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Parkman" <cpvp@comcast.net> To: <SCAIKEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 05, 2005 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery > I have a copy of a survey that was compiled by the Aiken-Barnwell > Genealogical Society, Inc. of South Carolina. Address: P. O. Box 415, > Aiken, SC. (AIKEN COUNTY CEMETERIES VOL. III) This cemetery (OLD LANGLEY > CEMETERY) was inventoried by: Cyril Johnson & Wallis Byars, January 26, > 1991. > > My husband and I have visited this cemetery and there was much undergrowth > and large trees. > > Mr. Johnson and Mr. Byars also stated: "Township of Langley SC, Hwy. #421 - > take Piney Heights Road, cemetery is 4/10 mile on right in dense undergrowth > and large trees and is spread over a large area. We found very few grave > squares that had been attended in several years. They also stated that they > know that they don't have all of the graves listed and some even moved from > base to other areas. There are several entrances from Piney Heights Rd. and > they started at first and copied inscriptions in sections and tried to keep > grave squares together." > > They have 7 1/2 pages of inscriptions - not in alphabetical order in the > book....I would be glad search these pages for the person or persons you > might be researching. > > Vivian Carroll Parkman > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Oldnail@aol.com> > To: <SCAIKEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:55 PM > Subject: Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery > > > > > > This record states that there are records of the burials. I am not sure if > > this is the same cemetery I am thinking of, but there are no records for > > it, if > > it is the same one. > > There is no location recorded for those burial records. > > Question: If records exist, where are they? Where Hannon Rupert get the > > info > > that there were records? > > > > The cemetery that I am thinking of is known now by another > > name.....Cowen?? > > not sure.... whoever owns the land now....... and I understood that many > > of > > the graves were moved to the new Langley Cemetery years ago, but not all. > > Is > > anyone in the community trying to do a clean up of the cemetery? Seems > > like an > > excellent opportunity to record the graves there, discover the stones > > buried, and perhaps have a local gen society write a book listing those > > graves, > > maybe including pictures. > > > > Yvonne > > > > In a message dated 12/4/2005 3:22:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > BHooten233@aol.com writes: > > > > THANKS TO HANNON RUPERT > > > > Date: 11/17/00 - Updated January 04, 2001 > > > > Cemetery: Old Langley > > Street: Between Highway 421 Tutt St. Exit and Piney Heights Rd. 333930N > > 0815737W > > City: Graniteville > > Township: > > County: Aiken > > State: South Carolina > > Nation: USA > > Zip: > > Nearby: Main Street > > Land Type: Public > > Status: Abandoned > > Accessible: Yes > > Unmarked graves: Yes > > Graves within: 100 > > Oldest grave: 1750 > > Newest grave: 1950 > > Records: Yes > > Inventory: Unsure > > Records location: > > Owner: > > Condition: Cemetery neglected > > Vandalism > > Restricted Access > > Overgrown-trees > > Overgrown-ground cover > > Overgrown-vines > > Broken Headstones > > Buried Headstones > > Disintegrating Headstones > > Fallen Headstones > > Previous contacts: I E-MAILED A COMPLAINT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THERE > > HAS > > ALSO BEEN AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWS PAPER ABOUT THE CEMETERY. > > Work Status: No work started as of yet > > Submitted by / Contact for additional Information: > > name: SHANNON RUPERT > > Email: Katnap98@aol.com > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SCAIKEN Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > > utility address SCAIKEN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change > > the -L- to a -D- > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== SCAIKEN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the utility address SCAIKEN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

    12/05/2005 11:00:11
    1. Reunion
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/ZcB.2ACE/385 Message Board Post: 2006 Families Along the Edisto Reunion Families Along The Edisto Reunion For The Following Families: Cook, Garvin, Goss, Howell, Huckabaa(ee), Johnson, Keel, Redd, & Scott Descendants of the Rev. Carson Howell and Nancy Dolly Cook Where: Bethcar Baptist Church near Wagener, SC, Aiken County When: September 16, 2006, Saturday, 11:00 am 'til A covered Dish luncheon will be served. Eating utencils, cups, ice, & tea will be supplied. Please bring enough food for your family plus one more. Our first reunion ( 2004) had over 170 attendees Old Pictures and documents are welcomed for scanning & copying Bethcar Community where it all began! Visit nearby cemeteries: Bethcar Church, Garvin (2), Howell, & Scott (2) This is the official web site for the "Families Along The Edisto Reunion" When you visit the site, please leave a note for the committee in the guest book Reunion Committee Members: Hazel Smith, hazcsmith@hargray.com (803) 943-3995 Louise Fallaw Garvin Amaker, LFamaker@aol.com (803)684-9482 Vera Boatright, (803)564-5652 Beverly Chisolm, bchisolm@sc.rr.com. (803)794-7888 John Howell, jjhowell41@aol.com (803)794-2079 Pete Huckabaa, vernon@huckabaa.com (864)296-3675 Betty Shull, bnd217@pbtcomm.net (803)564-5306 Belinda Smith, belinda156@hotmail.com (803)238-6402 Directions To Church The Family Library

    12/05/2005 05:26:08
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery
    2. Charles Parkman
    3. I have a copy of a survey that was compiled by the Aiken-Barnwell Genealogical Society, Inc. of South Carolina. Address: P. O. Box 415, Aiken, SC. (AIKEN COUNTY CEMETERIES VOL. III) This cemetery (OLD LANGLEY CEMETERY) was inventoried by: Cyril Johnson & Wallis Byars, January 26, 1991. My husband and I have visited this cemetery and there was much undergrowth and large trees. Mr. Johnson and Mr. Byars also stated: "Township of Langley SC, Hwy. #421 - take Piney Heights Road, cemetery is 4/10 mile on right in dense undergrowth and large trees and is spread over a large area. We found very few grave squares that had been attended in several years. They also stated that they know that they don't have all of the graves listed and some even moved from base to other areas. There are several entrances from Piney Heights Rd. and they started at first and copied inscriptions in sections and tried to keep grave squares together." They have 7 1/2 pages of inscriptions - not in alphabetical order in the book....I would be glad search these pages for the person or persons you might be researching. Vivian Carroll Parkman ----- Original Message ----- From: <Oldnail@aol.com> To: <SCAIKEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:55 PM Subject: Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery > > This record states that there are records of the burials. I am not sure if > this is the same cemetery I am thinking of, but there are no records for > it, if > it is the same one. > There is no location recorded for those burial records. > Question: If records exist, where are they? Where Hannon Rupert get the > info > that there were records? > > The cemetery that I am thinking of is known now by another > name.....Cowen?? > not sure.... whoever owns the land now....... and I understood that many > of > the graves were moved to the new Langley Cemetery years ago, but not all. > Is > anyone in the community trying to do a clean up of the cemetery? Seems > like an > excellent opportunity to record the graves there, discover the stones > buried, and perhaps have a local gen society write a book listing those > graves, > maybe including pictures. > > Yvonne > > In a message dated 12/4/2005 3:22:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, > BHooten233@aol.com writes: > > THANKS TO HANNON RUPERT > > Date: 11/17/00 - Updated January 04, 2001 > > Cemetery: Old Langley > Street: Between Highway 421 Tutt St. Exit and Piney Heights Rd. 333930N > 0815737W > City: Graniteville > Township: > County: Aiken > State: South Carolina > Nation: USA > Zip: > Nearby: Main Street > Land Type: Public > Status: Abandoned > Accessible: Yes > Unmarked graves: Yes > Graves within: 100 > Oldest grave: 1750 > Newest grave: 1950 > Records: Yes > Inventory: Unsure > Records location: > Owner: > Condition: Cemetery neglected > Vandalism > Restricted Access > Overgrown-trees > Overgrown-ground cover > Overgrown-vines > Broken Headstones > Buried Headstones > Disintegrating Headstones > Fallen Headstones > Previous contacts: I E-MAILED A COMPLAINT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THERE > HAS > ALSO BEEN AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWS PAPER ABOUT THE CEMETERY. > Work Status: No work started as of yet > Submitted by / Contact for additional Information: > name: SHANNON RUPERT > Email: Katnap98@aol.com > > > > > > ==== SCAIKEN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address SCAIKEN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change > the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

    12/05/2005 05:08:43
    1. Brown(e)'s ex Yorkshire UK to Aiken or Shawscreek Township in the County of Edgefield
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZcB.2ACE/384 Message Board Post: Looking for any info on the following people who emigrated to the US from the UK in about 1854. John Brown(e) b: 1826 Burley in Wharfedale Yorkshire Martha Brown(e) b: 1828 Addingham Yorkshire d: 15 Jan 1887 Trenton Sth Carolina Albert Edward BROWN(E) b: abt 1856 SC Frederick Joseph BROWN(E) b: abt 1857 SC Fanny Darbyshire BROWN(E) b: abt 1858 SC d: 1885 SC Emma BROWN (E) b: abt 1864 SC Thomas BROWN(E) b: abt 1867 SC Sarah BROWN(E) b: abt 1869 SC 1870 US census they were living at S Carolina Shawscreek Township in the County of Edgefield. 1880 US census they were living at Shaw Aiken South Carolina I would sincerely appreciate any info, bmd info, census info for any of the family members or if anyone has a link to these names please get in touch. Look forward to any replies thank you. regards Sarah

    12/04/2005 07:02:32
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery
    2. In a message dated 12/4/2005 4:50:18 PM Eastern Standard Time, heyred@knology.net writes: Please let me know if anyone ever wants to cleanup the cemetery on the weeken I will be glad to help. Margie That sounds like a good idea Margie. I wouldn't mind pitching in as time allowed.

    12/04/2005 03:58:57
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery
    2. This record states that there are records of the burials. I am not sure if this is the same cemetery I am thinking of, but there are no records for it, if it is the same one. There is no location recorded for those burial records. Question: If records exist, where are they? Where Hannon Rupert get the info that there were records? The cemetery that I am thinking of is known now by another name.....Cowen?? not sure.... whoever owns the land now....... and I understood that many of the graves were moved to the new Langley Cemetery years ago, but not all. Is anyone in the community trying to do a clean up of the cemetery? Seems like an excellent opportunity to record the graves there, discover the stones buried, and perhaps have a local gen society write a book listing those graves, maybe including pictures. Yvonne In a message dated 12/4/2005 3:22:34 PM Eastern Standard Time, BHooten233@aol.com writes: THANKS TO HANNON RUPERT Date: 11/17/00 - Updated January 04, 2001 Cemetery: Old Langley Street: Between Highway 421 Tutt St. Exit and Piney Heights Rd. 333930N 0815737W City: Graniteville Township: County: Aiken State: South Carolina Nation: USA Zip: Nearby: Main Street Land Type: Public Status: Abandoned Accessible: Yes Unmarked graves: Yes Graves within: 100 Oldest grave: 1750 Newest grave: 1950 Records: Yes Inventory: Unsure Records location: Owner: Condition: Cemetery neglected Vandalism Restricted Access Overgrown-trees Overgrown-ground cover Overgrown-vines Broken Headstones Buried Headstones Disintegrating Headstones Fallen Headstones Previous contacts: I E-MAILED A COMPLAINT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THERE HAS ALSO BEEN AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWS PAPER ABOUT THE CEMETERY. Work Status: No work started as of yet Submitted by / Contact for additional Information: name: SHANNON RUPERT Email: Katnap98@aol.com

    12/04/2005 03:55:27
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery
    2. Margie King
    3. Please let me know if anyone ever wants to cleanup the cemetery on the weeken I will be glad to help. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: <BHooten233@aol.com> To: <SCAIKEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 3:22 PM Subject: Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery > THANKS TO HANNON RUPERT > > Date: 11/17/00 - Updated January 04, 2001 > > Cemetery: Old Langley > Street: Between Highway 421 Tutt St. Exit and Piney Heights Rd. 333930N > 0815737W > City: Graniteville > Township: > County: Aiken > State: South Carolina > Nation: USA > Zip: > Nearby: Main Street > Land Type: Public > Status: Abandoned > Accessible: Yes > Unmarked graves: Yes > Graves within: 100 > Oldest grave: 1750 > Newest grave: 1950 > Records: Yes > Inventory: Unsure > Records location: > Owner: > Condition: Cemetery neglected > Vandalism > Restricted Access > Overgrown-trees > Overgrown-ground cover > Overgrown-vines > Broken Headstones > Buried Headstones > Disintegrating Headstones > Fallen Headstones > Previous contacts: I E-MAILED A COMPLAINT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THERE HAS > ALSO BEEN AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWS PAPER ABOUT THE CEMETERY. > Work Status: No work started as of yet > Submitted by / Contact for additional Information: > name: SHANNON RUPERT > Email: Katnap98@aol.com > > > ==== SCAIKEN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

    12/04/2005 09:56:02
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery
    2. Margie King
    3. The old stones are still there and the new ones are in front of the oldes. It made my heart swell to see someone is taking an interest in the cemetery. I would like to do more but do not know how. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gwen Stuart" <GStuart1@cfl.rr.com> To: <SCAIKEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:08 PM Subject: Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery > How wonderful! I have no idea who whould have done such a wonderful deed, > but perhaps the Daughters of the Confederacy? How wonderful to know the old > stones have been replaced! > > Gwen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Margie King" <heyred@knology.net> > To: <SCAIKEN-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:51 AM > Subject: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery > > > > Please excuse the multi posting but I did not know who to ask about the > > Old Langley Cemetery on Piney Heights Road. I was there this morning > > putting flowers on my great grandmother's grave and noticed new > > confederate tombstones and confederate flags and would like to know how to > > get in touch with someone that put these there. Any information would be > > greatly appreciated. > > > > Margie > > > > > > ==== SCAIKEN Mailing List ==== > > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > > utility address SCAIKEN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change > > the -L- to a -D- > > > > ============================== > > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== SCAIKEN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

    12/04/2005 09:26:52
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery
    2. THANKS TO HANNON RUPERT Date: 11/17/00 - Updated January 04, 2001 Cemetery: Old Langley Street: Between Highway 421 Tutt St. Exit and Piney Heights Rd. 333930N 0815737W City: Graniteville Township: County: Aiken State: South Carolina Nation: USA Zip: Nearby: Main Street Land Type: Public Status: Abandoned Accessible: Yes Unmarked graves: Yes Graves within: 100 Oldest grave: 1750 Newest grave: 1950 Records: Yes Inventory: Unsure Records location: Owner: Condition: Cemetery neglected Vandalism Restricted Access Overgrown-trees Overgrown-ground cover Overgrown-vines Broken Headstones Buried Headstones Disintegrating Headstones Fallen Headstones Previous contacts: I E-MAILED A COMPLAINT TO THE LOCAL GOVERNMENT. THERE HAS ALSO BEEN AN ARTICLE IN THE NEWS PAPER ABOUT THE CEMETERY. Work Status: No work started as of yet Submitted by / Contact for additional Information: name: SHANNON RUPERT Email: Katnap98@aol.com

    12/04/2005 08:22:14
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery
    2. Gwen Stuart
    3. How wonderful! I have no idea who whould have done such a wonderful deed, but perhaps the Daughters of the Confederacy? How wonderful to know the old stones have been replaced! Gwen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie King" <heyred@knology.net> To: <SCAIKEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery > Please excuse the multi posting but I did not know who to ask about the > Old Langley Cemetery on Piney Heights Road. I was there this morning > putting flowers on my great grandmother's grave and noticed new > confederate tombstones and confederate flags and would like to know how to > get in touch with someone that put these there. Any information would be > greatly appreciated. > > Margie > > > ==== SCAIKEN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address SCAIKEN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change > the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >

    12/04/2005 07:08:30
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery
    2. Rudy
    3. I think you need to contact Eugene Barron. barscvrreb@aol.com He may be able to work with you. I hope this helps you some R Napier ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margie King" <heyred@knology.net> To: <SCAIKEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 10:51 AM Subject: [SCAIKEN] Re: The Old Langley Cemetery > Please excuse the multi posting but I did not know who to ask about the > Old Langley Cemetery on Piney Heights Road. I was there this morning > putting flowers on my great grandmother's grave and noticed new > confederate tombstones and confederate flags and would like to know how to > get in touch with someone that put these there. Any information would be > greatly appreciated. > > Margie > > > ==== SCAIKEN Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from this list, send ONLY the word UNSUBSCRIBE to the > utility address SCAIKEN-L-REQUEST@ROOTSWEB.COM If you are trying to > unsubscribe from the Digest list, use the same utility address but change > the -L- to a -D- > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

    12/04/2005 04:05:02
    1. Re: The Old Langley Cemetery
    2. Margie King
    3. Please excuse the multi posting but I did not know who to ask about the Old Langley Cemetery on Piney Heights Road. I was there this morning putting flowers on my great grandmother's grave and noticed new confederate tombstones and confederate flags and would like to know how to get in touch with someone that put these there. Any information would be greatly appreciated. Margie

    12/04/2005 03:51:35
    1. GUNTER, Charles W. and SAWYER, Theodosia
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: GUNTER Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZcB.2ACE/383 Message Board Post: Charles W. GUNTER married Theodosia SAWYER in 1874. Charles was born in 1849 in McTier, Aiken County, South Carolina. I am trying to find the parents and grandparents of Charles W. GUNTER. Thank you and Merry Christmas.

    12/02/2005 12:25:15
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] John Harvey Loomis & Eliza Hendrix
    2. I HAVE A MARGURITE LOOMIS THAT MARRIED CHESTER CATO. CHESTER WAS BORN IN 1908 IN AIKEN COUNTY, SON OF ALBERT CATO AND ADA SAWYER. CHESTER AND MARGUERIE HAD A DAUGHTER NAMED ELEANOR WHO MARRIED CHARLES LYBRAND. BILL HOOTEN

    11/30/2005 09:43:33
    1. John Harvey Loomis & Eliza Hendrix
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/ZcB.2ACE/382 Message Board Post: Hi Everyone. I am trying to find out more information on what happend to the family of a distant cousin of mine - John Harvey Loomis. John Harvey Loomis was born in Columbia and moved to Aiken after the war, living there from the late 1880s until his death in 1912. His wife - Eliza Hendrix - was born in Aiken in the 1850s and died in Aiken in 1947. They had several children, the most prominent being a son named Thomas Carling Loomis. Thomas had a son named John Loomis. John had a son named John Harvey Loomis (died a child) and a daughter named Margauritte. Most are buried in Aiken at Bethany Cemetery. I do not know what happened to Margauritte. Other family names associated with the Loomis family include Hamilton, White and Schulhoffer (Aiken), and Calhoun (Decatur, GA) An elderly resident of Aiken recalls knowing John Harvey Loomis of 1912 and his family as a grocer in Aiken. She believes that the family may have relocated to Savanah. Any help would be much appreciated! Thanks - John Loomis, Alexandria VA

    11/30/2005 06:00:11
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] TOOLE/BATES/GANTT MARRIAGES
    2. ANOTHER CLUE THAT POINTS TO VICTORIA BATES BEING THE SAME PERSON AS MALINDA IS HER TOMBSTONE. (SEE BELOW) BURIED NEXT TO JOBE. CHECK OUT THE M IN HER NAME. BILL Old Springs Methodist, New Ellenton, South Carolina TOOLE, M. VIC., b.1872, d.1937 {Victoria Bates} Old Springs Methodist, New Ellenton, South Carolina TOOLE, J. E. DESS, b.1862, d.1929 {Jobe Emory Toole}

    11/30/2005 04:43:12
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] TOOLE/BATES/GANTT MARRIAGES
    2. Ms. Toole, you mentioned a "Reynard Toole's, Sr.'s Toole manuscript done in 1970-1972 along with Geneva Eubanks information about that time". Is this manuscript of Reynard Toole's, Sr available at a local library? Also is Geneva Eubanks's information available? -------------- Original message from "Vivian Toole" <vtoole@inu.net>: -------------- > To-Toole, Aiken and Barnwell List Members and Bill Hooten and Larry Scott, > I am still following the previous Toole/Gantt thread that Bill started > on the Aiken list as a Gantt researcher. I have added to it myself. Larry > Scott who researches his wife's Woodwards, etc. in the Barnwell/Aiken area > has apparently added information off the list. I have a double TOOLE line > in the same area. Larry has this really fast connection that gets really > neat obits from THE AUGUST CHRONICLE on line. All of these people, mostly > in upper Barnwell, married each others cousins back and forth like crazy! > One never knows who will show up in somebody else's family branches! > Through Texshare which our local society pays extra for Heritage Quest > census, etc. I can now get all the federal census, I just don't have all the > indexes which are not always right. I live too far out in the "sticks" to > get DSL. I have given up trying to do the Augusta Newspaper online through > my very slow regular phone line connection. > I have some questions about what Larry Scott added below, in > particularly about the Job/Jobe Toole and Malinda Bates marriage which Larry > cited below. This does not exactly match the 1910 census of Aiken County > for Job Toole and Victoria [somebody?]. The way I read it, they have been > married once for 20 years. It says that she has had 10 children with 9 > living. There are nine children listed with this family all with the Toole > surname in House #239/242, Sleepy Hollow Township, ranging in age from 18 to > 1 & 4/12 yrs. Is Victoria on the census the same person as Malinda Bates? > Or is this a later marriage to another woman or is there some confusion in > who married who??? > Just how many BATES women married TOOLE man in the Barnwell/Aiken area? > Or for that matter, how many BATES men, married TOOLE men? Oh! How I wish SC > had kept marriage records!!! > I have that Lucinda Bates 1821-1898 married Gary Toole 1814-1899 well > before 1850. On the 1850 Barnwell census Gary Toole's wife was Lucinda and > there was a Mary Bates living with them in her 60's. This is also from > Reynard Toole's, Sr.'s Toole manuscript done in 1970-1972 along with Geneva > Eubanks information about that time. His father was Rufus and his > grandparents were Gary Toole and Lucinda Bates. Who was her father if Mary > was her mother??? > I have Gary Toole as a half-brother to my double ancestor, Manning > Toole. I have my Manning Toole as a whole brother of Merritt Manly Toole, > the father of Job/Jobe Toole b. 1861. Merritt and Manning are living > together in 1850 next to their father, Stephen Toole. Some researchers, > including myself, have been thrown because Merritt's sex is given as female > instead of male in 1850. > Bill and Larry have "pegged" Job/e Toole's Daughter, Hattie O. born 1898 > as the Hattie Toole who married the Sidney Lester Gantt that Bill is > seeking. Those dates match the Wagener Cem. in the Volume II of the Aiken > Cem. Books. Larry also contributed some obits citations from THE AUGUSTA > CHRONICLE. I don't disagree with that. The information seems to match. I > was missing the clue of the surname Gantt. Does anyone have any other > information Merritt's other children besides census? > The name of Gary's Toole's mother is unknown, an apparent first wife of > Stephen Toole b. 1780. She might have been a Treadway but no real proof > except that a Treadway in Mississippi was suppose to be a cousin somehow. > My contact there died at a young age and no one took up her research. > According to a Toole Bible Record Stephen's Toole's second wife was Mary > {_?_} d. c. 1845. I have split the children between the two wives by the > names recorded in this Bible as being by Mary{_?_]. Their approximate ages > are too spread out to be by the same wife. > I am also intrigued by the number of Hattie Tooles. Was it a family > name and a clue to further research or just popular at the time? Besides > this Hattie O. Toole m. Gantt, there was another Harriett Toole that I have > not connected but belongs in here somewhere. Then one of my great > grandmothers was Hattie A. Toole, dau. of Manning Toole mentioned above. It > turned out that on the census her name was Harriet Ann, I think much > prettier than being called "Grandma Hattie." > Any ideas out there on the marriage of Job/e Toole to Victoria _?_. Was > she and Lucinda Bates the same person or are the marriages confused? Is > Hattie a clue or just a popular name at the time in the late 1800's? > My apologizes to Larry who I hope will see this on a list. I have your > e-mail address hidden somewhere. Thanks heeps for the lovely obituaries you > have sent me in the past and for your willingness to share them with others! > Vivian Toole Cates, Alto, Texas http://www.inu.net/vcates > > -----Original Message----- > From: BHooten233@aol.com [mailto:BHooten233@aol.com] > Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 5:16 PM > To: vtoole@inu.net > Subject: Re: [SCAIKEN] TOOLE/GANTT--GUNTER > > ..................... > FROM LARRY SCOTT BELOW > I do believe this is the same Hattie as you show below. Here's what I > have > found > 1. Sidney Lester "Squibb"1 Gantt, Sr. was born 1890 in (lived New Holland > Sec., Aiken Co., SC), and died 06 Sep 1963 in Aiken, Aiken, SC (Aug. > Chron. > Obit, 7 Sep 1963, age 72). He married Hattie O. (Gantt) Toole in (Rosine > Toole is adopted), daughter of Jobe Toole and Malinda Bates. She was born > 1898 in SC (lived New Holland Sec., Aiken Co., SC), and died 10 Oct 1959 > in > Columbia, SC (Aug. Chron. Obit., 12 Oct 1959). > > > > > ==== SCAIKEN Mailing List ==== > NOTICE: Posting of virus warnings, test messages, chain letters, political > announcements, current events, items for sale, personal messages, flames, etc. > (in other words - spam) is NOT ALLOWED and will be grounds for removal. > Consideration for exceptions, contact Kathleen Burnett > kathleenburnett@earthlink.net > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. 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    11/28/2005 05:29:34
    1. Re: [SCAIKEN] TOOLE/BATES/GANTT MARRIAGES
    2. VIVIAN I BELIEVE WHEN YOU LOOK AT ALL CENSUS RECORDS AND PUT EVERYTHING IN PRESPECTIVE. VICTORIA BATES, VICTORIA AND MALINDA TOOLE ARE THE SAME PERSON. THE AGES MATCH EVERY YEAR SHOWN. THE CHILDREN MATCH LL YEARS.. Name: Victoria Bates Age: 8 Estimated birth year: <1872> Birthplace: South Carolina Relationship to head-of-household: Daughter Home in 1880: Millbrook, Aiken, South Carolina Marital status: Single Race: White Gender: Female Father's birthplace: --- Mother's name: H. H. Bates Mother's birthplace: --- Name: Job E Toole Age in 1910: 48 Estimated birth year: abt 1862 Birthplace: South Carolina Home in 1910: Sleepy Hollow Twp, Aiken, South Carolina Race: White Gender: Male SHOWS WIFE VICTORIA, CHILDREN, ALICE, GEORGE, JOHN, HATTIE, ARTHUR, WILLIE, CORA, DORA AND CLEO. Name: Victoria Toole Age: 48 years Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Birthplace: South Carolina Race: White Home in 1920: Sleepy Hollow, Aiken, South Carolina Sex: Female Marital status: Married Relation to Head of House: Wife Able to read: Yes Able to Write: Yes Mother's Birth Place: South Carolina Father's Birth Place: South Carolina Image: 301 SHOWS HUSBAND JOBE, CHILDREN, ARTHUR, CORA, DORA, CLEO, HERBERT, HASTING AND ADA. Name: Malinda Toole Age: 58 Estimated birth year: abt 1872 Birthplace: South Carolina Relation to head-of-house: Head Race: White Home in 1930: Sleepy Hollow, Aiken, South Carolina (SHOWS CHILDREN WILLIE, DORA, CLEO, HASTINGS AND ADA. NEXT DOOR WAS DAUGHTER CORA MARRIED TO ALLEN LYBRAND. Name: Victoria B Toole Death date: 4 Feb 1937 Age (years): 65 Estimated birth year: 1872 Gender: Female Color: White County of death: Aiken Volume number: 4 Certificate number: 1228

    11/28/2005 01:09:34
    1. Obit of Evelyn Garvin Lott ???
    2. Lee and Billie Jones
    3. The following obit was published in "The State", Columbia, SC, Nov 27, 2005 I have done research on the Lott families of the Edgefield/Aiken Area and believe that she might be connected based on the name of a son, Shep Andrew Lott. Can anyone tell me her husband's name, as it was not included in the obit. WILLISTON -- Services for Evelyn Garvin Lott, 89, will be held at 11:00 am Monday, Nov 28, 2005 at the Williston First Baptist church. Burial will be in the Williston Cem. with Eastern Star rites accorded........... Mrs. Lott died Saturday. Born in Barnwell Co, she was the last living member of 11 children born to the late Bennie Lee and Gertrude Rouis Garvin. She retires as a manager for the Brown Sign with the Sewing Machine in the Corner of Barnwell. She was a member of the First Baptist Church, the Rebeckah Sunday School Class, was honorary member and in 2004 received a plaque in recognition of 50 years service in the church choir. She was a member of the Ackerman Chapter of the Eastern Star #190. Survivors iniclude daughter, Shirley AcAlhaney Oliver; son Shep Andres (Roxanne) Lott; grandchildren, Robbie McAlhaney, Bradley and Kelly Lott; great-grandchildren, Lee and Shane McAlhaney. she was predeceased by an infant son. I have two older generation Shep Lotts in my files, desc. of Hasseltine Bunion Lott b. ca 1840 who married Malinda West. I am trying to attach her to the right LOTT family. Billie Jones Camden, SC tjones@camden.net

    11/28/2005 09:31:56
    1. TOOLE/BATES/GANTT MARRIAGES
    2. Vivian Toole
    3. To-Toole, Aiken and Barnwell List Members and Bill Hooten and Larry Scott, I am still following the previous Toole/Gantt thread that Bill started on the Aiken list as a Gantt researcher. I have added to it myself. Larry Scott who researches his wife's Woodwards, etc. in the Barnwell/Aiken area has apparently added information off the list. I have a double TOOLE line in the same area. Larry has this really fast connection that gets really neat obits from THE AUGUST CHRONICLE on line. All of these people, mostly in upper Barnwell, married each others cousins back and forth like crazy! One never knows who will show up in somebody else's family branches! Through Texshare which our local society pays extra for Heritage Quest census, etc. I can now get all the federal census, I just don't have all the indexes which are not always right. I live too far out in the "sticks" to get DSL. I have given up trying to do the Augusta Newspaper online through my very slow regular phone line connection. I have some questions about what Larry Scott added below, in particularly about the Job/Jobe Toole and Malinda Bates marriage which Larry cited below. This does not exactly match the 1910 census of Aiken County for Job Toole and Victoria [somebody?]. The way I read it, they have been married once for 20 years. It says that she has had 10 children with 9 living. There are nine children listed with this family all with the Toole surname in House #239/242, Sleepy Hollow Township, ranging in age from 18 to 1 & 4/12 yrs. Is Victoria on the census the same person as Malinda Bates? Or is this a later marriage to another woman or is there some confusion in who married who??? Just how many BATES women married TOOLE man in the Barnwell/Aiken area? Or for that matter, how many BATES men, married TOOLE men? Oh! How I wish SC had kept marriage records!!! I have that Lucinda Bates 1821-1898 married Gary Toole 1814-1899 well before 1850. On the 1850 Barnwell census Gary Toole's wife was Lucinda and there was a Mary Bates living with them in her 60's. This is also from Reynard Toole's, Sr.'s Toole manuscript done in 1970-1972 along with Geneva Eubanks information about that time. His father was Rufus and his grandparents were Gary Toole and Lucinda Bates. Who was her father if Mary was her mother??? I have Gary Toole as a half-brother to my double ancestor, Manning Toole. I have my Manning Toole as a whole brother of Merritt Manly Toole, the father of Job/Jobe Toole b. 1861. Merritt and Manning are living together in 1850 next to their father, Stephen Toole. Some researchers, including myself, have been thrown because Merritt's sex is given as female instead of male in 1850. Bill and Larry have "pegged" Job/e Toole's Daughter, Hattie O. born 1898 as the Hattie Toole who married the Sidney Lester Gantt that Bill is seeking. Those dates match the Wagener Cem. in the Volume II of the Aiken Cem. Books. Larry also contributed some obits citations from THE AUGUSTA CHRONICLE. I don't disagree with that. The information seems to match. I was missing the clue of the surname Gantt. Does anyone have any other information Merritt's other children besides census? The name of Gary's Toole's mother is unknown, an apparent first wife of Stephen Toole b. 1780. She might have been a Treadway but no real proof except that a Treadway in Mississippi was suppose to be a cousin somehow. My contact there died at a young age and no one took up her research. According to a Toole Bible Record Stephen's Toole's second wife was Mary {_?_} d. c. 1845. I have split the children between the two wives by the names recorded in this Bible as being by Mary{_?_]. Their approximate ages are too spread out to be by the same wife. I am also intrigued by the number of Hattie Tooles. Was it a family name and a clue to further research or just popular at the time? Besides this Hattie O. Toole m. Gantt, there was another Harriett Toole that I have not connected but belongs in here somewhere. Then one of my great grandmothers was Hattie A. Toole, dau. of Manning Toole mentioned above. It turned out that on the census her name was Harriet Ann, I think much prettier than being called "Grandma Hattie." Any ideas out there on the marriage of Job/e Toole to Victoria _?_. Was she and Lucinda Bates the same person or are the marriages confused? Is Hattie a clue or just a popular name at the time in the late 1800's? My apologizes to Larry who I hope will see this on a list. I have your e-mail address hidden somewhere. Thanks heeps for the lovely obituaries you have sent me in the past and for your willingness to share them with others! Vivian Toole Cates, Alto, Texas http://www.inu.net/vcates -----Original Message----- From: BHooten233@aol.com [mailto:BHooten233@aol.com] Sent: Thursday, November 24, 2005 5:16 PM To: vtoole@inu.net Subject: Re: [SCAIKEN] TOOLE/GANTT--GUNTER ..................... FROM LARRY SCOTT BELOW I do believe this is the same Hattie as you show below. Here's what I have found 1. Sidney Lester "Squibb"1 Gantt, Sr. was born 1890 in (lived New Holland Sec., Aiken Co., SC), and died 06 Sep 1963 in Aiken, Aiken, SC (Aug. Chron. Obit, 7 Sep 1963, age 72). He married Hattie O. (Gantt) Toole in (Rosine Toole is adopted), daughter of Jobe Toole and Malinda Bates. She was born 1898 in SC (lived New Holland Sec., Aiken Co., SC), and died 10 Oct 1959 in Columbia, SC (Aug. Chron. Obit., 12 Oct 1959).

    11/27/2005 11:36:52