Dale and Herb, as long as it doesn't get personal, could you please keep this correspondence going on the list.? This is just the sort of information sharing that a lot of us could learn from.? Honey Ryan Savannah, Georgia -----Original Message----- From: herb_316 <herb_316@bellsouth.net> To: scabbevi@rootsweb.com Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:01 pm Subject: [SCABBEVI] Note to Dale Reddick Dear Dale, I'm interested in your statement: Ref: "my Georgia Reddick line arrived in Savannah on the ship Three Sisters on December 21, 1737" I have oftern thought that my Hendricks who show in Newberry mid-1700s and no where else might have come into GA but have never sought the resources. Can you give me a place or reference to look at the ships and passengers arriving in Savannah and or elsewhere in GA. Many years ago I found some Major families into Savannah but had no idea how they got there. Also send me you e-mail address so I don't keep having to post to SCAbbeville. Thanks. God Bless. ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale E. Reddick To: scabbevi@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [SCABBEVI] Note to Dale Reddick Hi Herb, Thanks for the offer, but my Georgia Reddick line arrived in Savannah on the ship Three Sisters on December 21, 1737 as the 'RADICK' family. They were German-speaking Palatine Refugees who each spent several years as indentured servants to the Trustees of the Colony of Georgia. My interest in old Abbeville District lies with the 1810 marriage of James and Thomas Reddick to Joanne and Elizabeth Carrol(l). They were wed by the Reverend Moses Waddell, founder of the Willington Academy and later first president of the University of Georgia. Then, in the 1820 census there are two 'REDICK' households found in Abbeville District. They were headed by 'Anney' and Elizabeth. I suspect that Anney = Joanne and Elizabeth is probably the same individual (maybe). If one goes back through the records of the Augusta Chronicle there's a record for James and Thomas 'Riddick' of Lincoln Co., GA being tax defaulters in 1808. Lincoln County lies across the Savannah River from the upper part of McCormick County which used to be the lower portion of Abbeville District. One could envisage a pair of brothers exiting Lincoln County for Abbeville District as a way of starting a new life with new brides. The thing about this is that those two fellows aren't related to me. However, they were alive during the same period when two other fellows named Thomas Reddick were living further down the Savannah River valley in Burke and Screven Counties (between Augusta and Savannah). Those two Thomas Reddicks were my relatives. The presence of three fellows named Thomas Reddick living to either side of Augusta in the Savannah River Valley has lead to all sorts of confusion (in the past). DNA testing has helped to reduce this confusion, as we now know the two fellows in Burke and Screven Counties had descendant relatives who've been tested and this proves them not to be related to any other Reddicks in the US. We think a group of Reddicks from the panhandle of Florida are descended from this set of Reddicks who lived in Abbeville District. This hasn't been absolutely proven, but seems possible or perhaps maybe likely. Those Reddicks have also undergone DNA testing and they don't match my group of Reddicks. The results of the DNA testing prove them to be part of a separate lineage of r320 surnamed folks (including both Reddick and Reddoch surnamed folks). Those mid-Atlantic Reddicks from Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and North Carolina tend to mostly belong to a group that we are calling the I1b2 Scots-Irish Reddick / r320 grouping. The surnames in this group include: Redick, Reddick, Riddick, Ruddock, & Wallace (the DNA testing participant with the Wallace surname reports that his grandfather changed his surname from Riddick to Wallace in late 19th century west Texas [there's gotta be a story there, somewhere & somewhen]). The results of the DNA testing have placed these folks into four different sub-groupings. Some have well-documented origins in the early 1700s of northern Ireland. Others have oral tales of Scottish origins. However, please do provide me with the information that you've mentioned. I'll forward it along to other Reddick / r320 surname researchers. We all work together, trading anything we uncover or learn about or are informed of. Half of all the Reddicks in the US have a Thomas Reddick as a close relative to an ancestor. We have to compare notes and share information so that we can keep 'em all properly separated. Dale ___________________________________ herb_316 wrote: > Dear Dale, > > Lost your e-mail address but I recently reviewed some books on VA that Alan is posting at the Mid-Atlantic site. > > I wanted to note to you that in the last volume he posted in the orderly book there was a Reddick mentioned numerous times. If you are interested and have any problems findiing it let me know and I will be more definitive. > > Herb_316@Bellsouth.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dale E. Reddick > To: scabbevi@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SCABBEVI] map > > > Hi Roy, > > Just click on the following URL link and it'll open a webpage of the > 1825 map. You can click on it to scroll about and you can also zoom in > with a magnification tool (provided in a toolbar included within the > webpage content). Check the 1820 census for wealthy neighbors of your > ancestors (large numbers of slaves being a good indicator of wealth) and > then look for them on the map. Yesterday another researcher did this > and has localized the vicinity of her likely 'Redick' ancestors in the > Savannah River valley near Willington - near the residences of William > A. Bull and Major Robertson (as also found on GIF image # 0012b.gif of > the 1820 census). The second URL provides a file listing with hotlinks > to the 1820 census pages (provided as GIF image files). Since the map > was surveyed in 1820, then the two sets of information are an almost > perfect match for finding where folks were at that time. > > Dale E. Reddick > > http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps860022-23855.html > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/abbeville/census/1820/ > ___________________________________ > > HUNTR404@cs.com wrote: > > I am interested in the ABBEVILLE DISTRICT SOUTH CAROLINA (SC) LANDOWNER MAP > > 1825 . I am researching FLOWERS family. > > Could anyone tell me if the map shows any FLOWERS family? > > Thanks, > > Roy <><HUNTR404@cs.com > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com
I am glad this was requested, and I try to remember to send records to the Lists I belong to; who knows when someone may be researching the very families the rest of us are...and, what the Lists are all about. I'm not a List manager, but do know a bit about research...also how hard it is to find our families, at times. Thanks, Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: <hryansavh@aol.com> To: <scabbevi@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 14, 2007 11:20 AM Subject: Re: [SCABBEVI] Note to Dale Reddick > Dale and Herb, as long as it doesn't get personal, could you please keep > this correspondence going on the list.? This is just the sort of > information sharing that a lot of us could learn from.? > > Honey Ryan > Savannah, Georgia > > > -----Original Message----- > From: herb_316 <herb_316@bellsouth.net> > To: scabbevi@rootsweb.com > Sent: Fri, 14 Sep 2007 12:01 pm > Subject: [SCABBEVI] Note to Dale Reddick > > > > Dear Dale, > > I'm interested in your statement: > > Ref: "my Georgia Reddick line arrived in Savannah on > the ship Three Sisters on December 21, 1737" > > I have oftern thought that my Hendricks who show in Newberry mid-1700s and > no > where else might have come into GA but have never sought the resources. > > Can you give me a place or reference to look at the ships and passengers > arriving in Savannah and or elsewhere in GA. Many years ago I found some > Major > families into Savannah but had no idea how they got there. > > Also send me you e-mail address so I don't keep having to post to > SCAbbeville. > > Thanks. > > God Bless. > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dale E. Reddick > To: scabbevi@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:34 PM > Subject: Re: [SCABBEVI] Note to Dale Reddick > > > Hi Herb, > > Thanks for the offer, but my Georgia Reddick line arrived in Savannah on > the ship Three Sisters on December 21, 1737 as the 'RADICK' family. > They were German-speaking Palatine Refugees who each spent several years > as indentured servants to the Trustees of the Colony of Georgia. > > My interest in old Abbeville District lies with the 1810 marriage of > James and Thomas Reddick to Joanne and Elizabeth Carrol(l). They were > wed by the Reverend Moses Waddell, founder of the Willington Academy and > later first president of the University of Georgia. Then, in the 1820 > census there are two 'REDICK' households found in Abbeville District. > They were headed by 'Anney' and Elizabeth. I suspect that Anney = > Joanne and Elizabeth is probably the same individual (maybe). If one > goes back through the records of the Augusta Chronicle there's a record > for James and Thomas 'Riddick' of Lincoln Co., GA being tax defaulters > in 1808. Lincoln County lies across the Savannah River from the upper > part of McCormick County which used to be the lower portion of Abbeville > District. One could envisage a pair of brothers exiting Lincoln County > for Abbeville District as a way of starting a new life with new brides. > > The thing about this is that those two fellows aren't related to me. > However, they were alive during the same period when two other fellows > named Thomas Reddick were living further down the Savannah River valley > in Burke and Screven Counties (between Augusta and Savannah). Those two > Thomas Reddicks were my relatives. The presence of three fellows named > Thomas Reddick living to either side of Augusta in the Savannah River > Valley has lead to all sorts of confusion (in the past). DNA testing > has helped to reduce this confusion, as we now know the two fellows in > Burke and Screven Counties had descendant relatives who've been tested > and this proves them not to be related to any other Reddicks in the US. > We think a group of Reddicks from the panhandle of Florida are descended > from this set of Reddicks who lived in Abbeville District. This hasn't > been absolutely proven, but seems possible or perhaps maybe likely. > Those Reddicks have also undergone DNA testing and they don't match my > group of Reddicks. The results of the DNA testing prove them to be part > of a separate lineage of r320 surnamed folks (including both Reddick and > Reddoch surnamed folks). > > Those mid-Atlantic Reddicks from Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, > Virginia, and North Carolina tend to mostly belong to a group that we > are calling the I1b2 Scots-Irish Reddick / r320 grouping. The surnames > in this group include: Redick, Reddick, Riddick, Ruddock, & Wallace > (the DNA testing participant with the Wallace surname reports that his > grandfather changed his surname from Riddick to Wallace in late 19th > century west Texas [there's gotta be a story there, somewhere & > somewhen]). The results of the DNA testing have placed these folks into > four different sub-groupings. Some have well-documented origins in the > early 1700s of northern Ireland. Others have oral tales of Scottish > origins. > > However, please do provide me with the information that you've > mentioned. I'll forward it along to other Reddick / r320 surname > researchers. We all work together, trading anything we uncover or learn > about or are informed of. Half of all the Reddicks in the US have a > Thomas Reddick as a close relative to an ancestor. We have to compare > notes and share information so that we can keep 'em all properly > separated. > > Dale > ___________________________________ > > herb_316 wrote: > > Dear Dale, > > > > Lost your e-mail address but I recently reviewed some books on VA that > Alan > is posting at the Mid-Atlantic site. > > > > I wanted to note to you that in the last volume he posted in the > orderly > book there was a Reddick mentioned numerous times. If you are interested > and > have any problems findiing it let me know and I will be more definitive. > > > > Herb_316@Bellsouth.net > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Dale E. Reddick > > To: scabbevi@rootsweb.com > > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:10 AM > > Subject: Re: [SCABBEVI] map > > > > > > Hi Roy, > > > > Just click on the following URL link and it'll open a webpage of the > > 1825 map. You can click on it to scroll about and you can also zoom > in > > with a magnification tool (provided in a toolbar included within the > > webpage content). Check the 1820 census for wealthy neighbors of > your > > ancestors (large numbers of slaves being a good indicator of wealth) > and > > then look for them on the map. Yesterday another researcher did this > > and has localized the vicinity of her likely 'Redick' ancestors in > the > > Savannah River valley near Willington - near the residences of > William > > A. Bull and Major Robertson (as also found on GIF image # 0012b.gif > of > > the 1820 census). The second URL provides a file listing with > hotlinks > > to the 1820 census pages (provided as GIF image files). Since the > map > > was surveyed in 1820, then the two sets of information are an almost > > perfect match for finding where folks were at that time. > > > > Dale E. Reddick > > > > http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps860022-23855.html > > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/abbeville/census/1820/ > > ___________________________________ > > > > HUNTR404@cs.com wrote: > > > I am interested in the ABBEVILLE DISTRICT SOUTH CAROLINA (SC) > LANDOWNER > MAP > > > 1825 . I am researching FLOWERS family. > > > Could anyone tell me if the map shows any FLOWERS family? > > > Thanks, > > > Roy <><HUNTR404@cs.com > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - > http://mail.aol.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >