I have been thinking a little about my own notes, just thought I'd throw this into the mix. When Ambrose Christopher lost all of his land in Virginia, his son Ralph said he turned to drink and never recovered. Then in Rutherford County, NC., Ralph said they lost his mother, Elizabeth Griffin, and Ralph also says that the had a LARGE family, while we only have 5 children listed, it seems we are missing some. I wonder if some of the ones we are missing might be David and William in Abbeville 1820 Census? I can't help but wonder, though it doesn't make sense, the two Christopher boys, Wm., and Buckner Griffin, were they orphans, or were they maybe passed on to their brother David from Ambrose Sr.? We know that Ambrose Sr. did leave NC and go into Georgia, I don't know when he showed up, but I remember him getting in trouble because of his drinking. So did Ambrose leave his two youngest son's with David as he passed into Georgia? The Buckner Griffin name can be a hint, I am just thinking out loud. Did Elizabeth Griffin Christopher die in childbirth, leaving Ambrose to raise the two youngest, was David Christopher in Abbeville a son of Ambrose, maybe a nephew? Maybe David and William Christopher in 1820 census are cousins, which would allow for Wm(William?), and Buckner Griffin to be son's of Ambrose Sr., otherwise 2 Williams, same family? If I remember right, I think William shows up in Franklin County, Ga. later,1830-40?, you'd think that would make him father to John Davis Christopher, who also goes to Franklin County, Ga. So I think we should try and find William married to a daughter of John Davis? I seem to remember something from "The Abbeville Banner" about a William: STATE OF SOUTH CAROLINA, Abbeville District Court of Equity Wiley PULLIM and others vs. Thomas BYRD and others Bill for Injunction It appearing that Frances MITCHELL, Anna COOPER, John PULLIM, Zachariah PULLIM, Robert PULLIM, Harriet WARE and James WARE her husband, Caroline STEWART and Mark T. STEWART her husband, Agrippa GOLSTON, Zachariah GOLSTON, Burrel BALL, Parks BALL, Lewis BALL, Elizabeth WARDLAW and her husband Joseph WARDLAW, Richard PULLIM, William PULLIM, Sarah CHRISTOPHER and her husband William CHRISTOPHER, and Elizabeth DOBBS, the defendants in the above stated case, reside beyond the limits of this State. It is ordered that they do appear, plead, answer or demur to the said Bill within three months from the publication hereof, or the same will be taken Pro Confesso against them. H.A. Jones, C.E.A.D., Jan. 25, 1847. -------- Also, note on James Christopher, Abbeville District: "Abstracts of Old Ninety Six & Abbeville Dist Wills & Bonds" Jas (James) CHRISTOPHER is shown as one of the estate administrators in the wills of Pinketham HAWKINS (yr 1782, pg 148, box 46, pack 1042), William DAVIS (yr 1782, pg 95, box 28, pack 648) , James RAY (yr 1783, pg 274, box 80, pack 1962) & John HAMMOND (yr 1783, pg 146, box 45, pack 1022). Betsey CHRISTOPHER is the granddaughter of William COVINGTON (will yr 1785, pg 71, box 21, pack 481) ------------- Thanks, David --- David Christopher <srunreal@yahoo.com> wrote: > Ok, let try and talk Abbeville for a few minutes and > see what we know, what we think we know, what we > might > learn. > > We know that in early Abbeville there was a James > Christopher from 17?2 - 1783. > > We know that Ralph Griffin Christopher, son of > Ambros > Christopher and (Elizabeth Griffin Christopher(died > in > Rutherford County, NC Abt 1798-99), Ralph left > Rutherford, NC and went to Abbeville(Abt 1803) with > one of his sisters and a brother-in-law. > > We know that Elizabeth Christopher, daughter of > David > of Mecklenburg County, Va., who married William > Finch, > dies in Abbeville after 1791. > > 2. Elizabeth CHRISTOPHER (David CHRISTOPHER1) died > in > > Abbeville, SC. She married William FINCH 21 JAN > 1780 > > in Mecklenberg Co., VA, son of Brothers FINCH and > > Sarah VAUGHAN. He was born ABT 1753, and died 11 > APR > > 1811 in Clarke Co GA. > > > > Children of Elizabeth CHRISTOPHER and William > FINCH > > are: > > + 3 i. John FINCH died 1831. > > + 4 ii. Brothers FINCH was born ABT 1785 in SC. > > 5 iii. Christopher FINCH was born ABT 1790 in > > Newberry Co., SC, and died ABT 1859 in Scott Co., > MS. > > He married Elizabeth DUNGAN 24 FEB 1818 in Clarke > Co., > AL. She was born ABT 1795, and died AFT 1870. > > + 6 iv. William FINCH was born ABT 1791, and died > > BET 1881 AND 1882 in Clay Co., GA. > > 7 v. Sally FINCH. She married Anderson BURT 20 > >MAR 1809 in Oglethorpe Co., GA. > > 8 vi. Elizabeth FINCH. She married Samuel BYRD > 2 > > SEP 1809 in Oglethorpe Co., GA. > > We know that David Christopher was made guardian of > two minor Christopher boys, William, and Buckner > Griffin Christopher in 1818. > > CHRISTOPHER, (MINORS) -- Box 106, Pack 2692: > On Apr 6, 1818 David CHRISTOPHER, John DAVIS, James > COBB bound unto Taliferro Livingston Ord. Abbeville > Dist. sum $2,000. David CHRISTOPHER made grn. of > Wm., > Buckner Griffin CHRISTOPHER, minors under 14 yrs. > > We know that in Census data 1820/1830 > > Now in the 1820 census David is on the same page > with > a John Davis, John Davis appears as over 45 years of > age with a female also over 45. > > David Christopher is on the same page with 3 male > kids > under 10, 1 under 16, himself under 26, 1 female > under > 16, and his wife I assume, also under 26. > > William Christopher is also on the 1820 census, > different page, 1 male, 2 females all under 10, > while > both he and his wife are under 26. > > > We know that Ralph Griffin returns to the Abbeville > area, Newberry district in 1820, and in 1822 married > Miss Anne T. Chiles, daughter of Thomas Chiles > Esquire, Abbeville District,. > > > In 1830 Daniel Christopher shows up right over a > John Davis, John is under 75, as is his wife, but > there are 2 other people in their home, 1 male, 1 > female, both under 30. > > Now Daniel, who is listed just above this John Davis > has a house full, Daniel showing up in the 40-50 > bracket, with the oldest female(wife?) being in the > 30-40 bracket. 1 boy under 5, 2 under 10, 1 under > 15, > 1 under 20, and 1 under 30. 1 female under 5, and > another under 15. > > ------------- > > So who was James in the late 1700's, is he the son > of > William, brother to Ambrose? > > What year did Elizabeth Christopher Finch, daughter > of > David of Mecklenburg County, Va., die in Abbeville, > and where was she buried? > > Who was the "sister, brother-in-law" that Ralph went > with to Abbeville around 1803? > > Who are the two orphan Christopher's, William, and > Buckner Griffin, in 1818? > > Who is this David Christopher 1818, where did he go, > he was in the 1820 Abbeville Census, as was a > William > Christopher, who are they, where did the go from > Abbevile? > > Who was the Daniel Christopher in the 1830 > Abbeville, > living next door to JOHN DAVIS. > > > ------- > > Series Number: > S108093 Reel: > 0003 > Frame: > 00118 item: > 04 > > Date: 1831/10 C. > > Description: DAVIS, JOHN OF ABBEVILLE DISTRICT, WILL > TYPESCRIPT (2 FRAMES) (MSS WILL: BOOK 2, PAGE 294; > ESTATE PACKET: BOX 27, PKG. 612) > > Names Indexed: DAVIS, JOHN/CHRISTOPHER, JOHN > DAVIS/DAVIS, JOHN TIMOTHY/DAVIS, > ELISABETH/MCCALISTER, > MARGARET//DAVIS, NANCY/DAVIS, POLLY/WHITE, > JOHN/JONES, > STEPHEN/BASHIER, JOHN A./ > > Locations: ABBEVILLE DISTRICT/GEORGIA/DOOLY COUNTY, > GEORGIA/ > > > Who is John Davis? Who is he married to? In his will > in 1831, he names a grandson as JOHN DAVIS > CHRISTOPHER. John D. Christopher is found in > Franklin > County, Ga. in the mid 1800's. John D. Christopher > is > family to Gerald Rimmer, one of our Texas > researchers. > > Gerald Rimmer geraldrimmer@sbcglobal.net > > Researching John D. Christopher b.abt 1814 S. C. He > was on the1850 > Franklin Co. GA. census and appears to have a wife > named Amelia. By 1860 > he was in Hunt Co. TX > Chn: > Amelia A.R. b. abt 1836 S.C. > Benjamin F. b. abt 1837 S.C. > Nancy b. abt 1839 S.C. > Martha b. abt 1841 S.C. > John S. b. abt 1843 S.C. > Sarah E. b. 16 Feb. 1846 GA. > David M. C. b. abt 1847 GA. > Abner R. D. b. Jan 1849 GA. > Narciss A. b. abt 1853 GA. > > But WHO are the parents of John D. Christopher? His > mother is surely a Davis, daughter of John Davis, > but > who is she, and which Christopher did she marry? > > ------ > > Let's not forget, much of our information will be > got > by looking at cross lines, who are they, why were > they > here? > > Grigg(s), Finch, Davis, Hall, Griffin, and Cobb, > just > to name a few. This is where our success will lie, > family records, many of the records in Southern > States > were destroyed during and after the Civil War. > > > Following the Revolution, settlers began to pour > into > === message truncated === ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Globetrotter. Get better travel answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545469