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    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Jacob Flowers the 3rd -MORE FLOWERS...
    2. Audrey Pool
    3. "SELLERS does not name the wives of Henry FLOWERS, Sr's children except for Henry, Jr and Bennett FLOWERS." #7 above: Bennett FLOWERS, youngest son of Henry FLOWERS, Sr , married Annie PAYNE. Children: 1. Ervin Huger FLOWERS - m. Elizabeth KEEFE. Issue: one child: Tabitha K. FLOWERS. Elizabeth (KEEFE) FLOWERS m. 2nd Matthew MARTIN after FLOWERS' death. 2. John J. FLOWERS - m. (2) son 3. Annis FLOWERS - m. Solomon OWENS 4. Olivia FLOWERS - m. General Elly GODBOLD 5. Annie FLOWERS - died single. Our line: Ray POOL'S #3 Henry FLOWERS, Jr, son of Henry FLOWERS, Sr. (see above) - married the widow Rachel BENNETT, nee Rachel STUART of Bladen Co, NC. Henry died intestate in Marion Co, SC and his estate was administered 2 Aug 1800 by his widow Mrs. Rachel FLOWERS and her bond was signed by Shadrack BROWN and John POWERS. The inventory was made by John POWERS, Thomas GODBOLD and Durham REVEL. SELLERS states in his History of Marion County that this family are buried in an old FLOWERS graveyard which is now called the Gasque Graveyard and is just off the road from Marion to Latta, SC. Marion County Deed 5 Nov 1806 - Mrs. Rachel FLOWERS and her children by her late husband, Henry FLOWERS, Jr (Book C, p. 317). Tract of land 4 miles east of town of Marion, Smith Swamp on west side; said land being part of 200 acres surveyed for James GRAVES 5th Jan 1757, later acquired by Henry FLOWERS, Jr. Mrs. Rachel FLOWERS signed as widow and the children as heirs: Henry FLOWERS, Nathan FLOWERS, Elizabeth FLOWERS, William FLOWERS, &*Olivia FLOWERS, Martha FLOWERS and Lovelace FLOWERS. *Note: I. * Olivia FLOWERS married John ALTMAN. II. Dau Nancy ALTMAN m. Thomas POOL, 1837, Sumter County, AL. III. John Altman POOL m. Tennessee STROUD, 1866, Smith County, TX IV. James Walton POOL m. Ione Ethleen BOAZ, Smith County, TX V. Ray Thomas POOL, b. 1896, married Ethe McGuarey PATTERSON, VI. Ray W. POOL m. Audrey Ellen MYERS (me) (aep) ----- Original Message ----- From: <HUNTR404@cs.com> To: <scabbevi@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: [SCABBEVI] Jacob Flowers the 3rd > Does anyone have anything on Jacob Flowers the 3rd ?? > married Anne Hutson 1794 SC ? > Name of children ??? > Roy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    09/13/2007 11:54:40
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Jacob Flowers the 3rd
    2. Audrey Pool
    3. Roy, I'm sending these FLOWERS record in small amounts. There may be others who need to connect. As for Jacob, I don't know which one this is, but will send more soon. Audrey FLOWERS families by SELLERS, History of Marion County, SC: "Henry FLOWERS, Sr was born in England* and came to America about 1750. He married in America, Martha "Patsey" FLOWERS and settled in what is now Marion County, SC, prior to Revolution. Their issue: 1. Archibald FLOWERS 2. John FLOWERS 3. X Henry FLOWERS, Jr (married Rachel (STUART) BENNETT) 4. William FLOWERS 5. James FLOWERS 6. * Jacob FLOWERS 7. Bennett FLOWERS 8. Mary or Mollie FLOWERS 9. Elizabeth or Betsey FLOWERS 10. Nancy FLOWERS 11. Sarah or Sallie FLOWERS 12. Olivia FLOWERS *Note: I disagree with SELLERS on Henry FLOWERS, Sr being born in SC. Because of other names associated with FLOWERS, like ALTMAN, it is my firm belief both families were from Isle of Wight County, VA - early VA. (aep) ----- Original Message ----- From: <HUNTR404@cs.com> To: <scabbevi@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:57 AM Subject: [SCABBEVI] Jacob Flowers the 3rd > Does anyone have anything on Jacob Flowers the 3rd ?? > married Anne Hutson 1794 SC ? > Name of children ??? > Roy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    09/13/2007 11:50:36
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] CHASTAINS...
    2. Maryellen Horrigan
    3. I am assuming you know that the Chastains arrived VA and were given land in Manokin( many spellings), VA in 1700, as part of the original Huguenot settlement that was encouraged by VA to act as a barrier between them and the wild areas to the west. -----Original Message----- From: scabbevi-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scabbevi-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Audrey Pool Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:49 PM To: Abbeville South Carolina Subject: Re: [SCABBEVI] CHASTAINS... Three wills listed in Index of South Carolina for CHASTAIN: 1. John CHASTAIN - Anderson County 2. John CHASTAIN - Abbeville District 3. Rane CHASTAIN - Abbeville District I have two abstracts of the wills mentioned here, and these families, or relatives, are also in deed records of Edgefield County. The name caught my eye because the CHASTAIN families are named in The Douglas Register..."refugee" records, some birth records, etc. These if early VA. Audrey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/13/2007 11:43:31
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] CHASTAINS...
    2. Audrey Pool
    3. I don't research CHASTAINS, but yes, see them in what is called The Vestry of "Monacantown Parish" (Vol V., p. 70). I was responding to someone who was looking for CHASTAIN in SC. Was that you? Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Maryellen Horrigan" <mellenpatch5@cinci.rr.com> To: <scabbevi@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:43 PM Subject: Re: [SCABBEVI] CHASTAINS... >I am assuming you know that the Chastains arrived VA and were given land >in > Manokin( many spellings), VA in 1700, as part of the original Huguenot > settlement that was encouraged by VA to act as a barrier between them and > the wild areas to the west. > > -----Original Message----- > From: scabbevi-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:scabbevi-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Audrey Pool > Sent: Wednesday, September 12, 2007 7:49 PM > To: Abbeville South Carolina > Subject: Re: [SCABBEVI] CHASTAINS... > > Three wills listed in Index of South Carolina for CHASTAIN: > 1. John CHASTAIN - Anderson County > 2. John CHASTAIN - Abbeville District > 3. Rane CHASTAIN - Abbeville District > > I have two abstracts of the wills mentioned here, and these families, or > relatives, are also in deed records of Edgefield County. > > The name caught my eye because the CHASTAIN families are named in The > Douglas Register..."refugee" records, some birth records, etc. These if > early VA. > > Audrey > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    09/13/2007 11:16:02
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] A Collection of Upper South Carolina Genealogies and Family Records Vol III
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ejmcls Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.abbeville/813.1.3.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Sorry about the previous message. I forgot my punctuation. It is Tusten/Tustin; Strother; McKittrick. Thank you very much. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    09/13/2007 10:55:26
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] A Collection of Upper South Carolina Genealogies and Family Records Vol III
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: ejmcls Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.abbeville/813.1.3.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Would you kindly check to see if there are any Tusten/Tustin Strothers or McKittricks there? Thank you. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    09/13/2007 10:47:10
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Jacob Flowers the 3rd
    2. Freda Noble
    3. On Sep 13, 2007, at 11:57 AM, HUNTR404@cs.com wrote: Does anyone have anything on Jacob Flowers the 3rd ?? married Anne Hutson 1794 SC ? Name of children ??? Roy Roy, your Jacob, III, probably was a son of Jacob II, but I do have a Jacob Flowers, son of Edward Flowers. That may be a connection, so here are my notes. Please let me know if you see a connection. Jacob is in caps below Edward's info. Freda 1 Edward Flowers _______________________________________________ Of the Isle of Wight County, Virginia Children: Henry 1.1 Henry Flowers Senior [1] _______________________________________________ “Came from England about the middle of the eighteenth century.” [1] Old man Henry FLOWERS built the first Methodist Church in Marion sometime about 1782 and it was called FLOWERS Meeting House of which his seven sons and five daughters were members. This church was about four miles from the present town of Marion and the First Methodist Church in Marion is the same organization as was FLOWERS Meeting House. Bishop Asbury makes reference in his journal oftentimes about stopping at the home of Henry FLOWERS, Sr." [2] Here is the reason I believe our Henry FLOWERS' father was Edward FLOWERS, not a John FLOWERS, according to the FLOWERS book. Audrey BARNES: "BARNES, JOHN: Leg. son John, land adjoining Nicholas WILLIAMS and Richard WASHINGTON; son Thomas; daughter ELIZABETH FLOWERS; grandson Henry FLOWERS; son William; daughter Juda DAVIS; daughter (Mary) BEST; son Jacob, land adjoining on Arthur WASHINGTON and Edward FLOWERS; son Joshua; daughter Sarah SUMMERELL land adjoining Robert LAWRENCE; to Thomas CRAFFORD; to loving wife. Exx: sons Jacob and Joshua BARNES. D. March 27, 1736. R. May 23, 1737. Wit: William WILLIAMS, Thomas ALLEN, Benjamin FLOWERS. Page 167." [3] Spouse: Martha “Patsy” Savage Father: Lovelace Savage Children: Bennett (ca1765-) Archibald “Archie” John (ca1752-) Henry (ca1750-ca1800) William James JACOB Mary “Mollie” Elizabeth “Betsy” Nancy Sarah “Sallie” Olivia 1.1.1 Bennett Flowers [4] _______________________________________________ Birth: ca 1765, Marion, S. Carolina Death: Marion, S. Carolina Spouse: Annie Payne Children: Olivia Nathan Ervin Huger John J. Annis Annie 1.1.1.1 Olivia Flowers [5] _______________________________________________ Died sometime before the Civil War. [4] The DEATH AND OBITUARY NOTICES FROM THE SOUTHERN CHRISTIAN ADVOCATE 1867-1878 Issue of September 24, 1869 Sister Olivia Godbold, wife of General Elly Godbold of Marion S. C. Spouse: General Elly Godbold Birth: 1804 Death: 12 Jun 1874 Father: Elly (?) Godbold (ca1771-) Children: Huger Zack David Ann Cherry Margaret Maggie 1.1.1.2 Nathan Flowers _______________________________________________ [SCGenWeb Logo] Will of [Image] Nathan FLOWERS, 1833 Page 257 WILL OF NATHAN FLOWERS South Carolina ) In the name of God. amen I Nathan Flowers. of Sound ) Marion District ) mind and memory, do make this my last Will and tes- tament. It is my desire that all my Just debts. be paid.,. as soon. after my death as Convenient, for the rest of my Estate both real and personal estate:. I give. and dispose of in the. manner following. that is to say,. To. Olivia Altman, and her. Children, James, William, Henry, Jno. Wil- son, Nancy,. Rachael, Nathan Olivia Altman and any other Children which she may hereafter have. to be the property of my said sister Olivia Altman, during her natural life and after her death to her. Children forever; And lastly I do nominate and appoint Dr. John A. Cherry Executor of this my Last will and testament. In Witnefs whereof I. have hereunto set my hand and Seal this fourteenth day of feby A. D. Eighteen hundred and thirty three Nathan flowers (SEAL) Witnefses. Jas R Ervin Edwd. B. Wheeler James L. Sweet Recorded in Will Book 1, Page 251 Sworn to Octr. 17, 1834 Edward B. Wheeler, Ordinary Roll No. 271 1.1.1.3 Ervin Huger Flowers _______________________________________________ Spouse: Elizabeth Keffe Children: Taibitha K. 1.1.1.4 John J. Flowers _______________________________________________ Spouse: Anne Flowers 1.1.1.5 Annis Flowers _______________________________________________ Spouse: Solomon Owens 1.1.1.6 Annie Flowers _______________________________________________ never married. 1.1.2 Archibald “Archie” Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.3 John Flowers _______________________________________________ Birth: ca 1752 Death: Marion Co., S.Carolina Spouse: Nancy “Ann” (Flowers) 1.1.4 Henry Flowers Junior _______________________________________________ Birth: ca 1750 Death: ca 1800, Marion, S. Carolina Burial: Gasque Graveyard Henry FLOWERS, Jr, son of Henry FLOWERS, Sr (see above) - married the widow Rachel BENNETT, nee Rachel STUART of Bladen Co, NC. Henry died intestate in Marion Co, SC and his estate was administered 2 Aug 1800 by his widow Mrs. Rachel FLOWERS and her bond was signed by Shadrack BROWN and John POWERS. The Inventory was made by John POWERS, Thomas GODBOLD and Durham REVEL. Sellers states in his History of Marion County that this family are buried in an old FLOWERS graveyard which is now called the GASQUE Graveyard and is just off the road from Marion to Latta, SC. [2] Marion Co Deed 5 Nov 1806 - Mrs. Rachel FLOWERS and her children by her late husband, Henry FLOWERS, Jr. (Book C, p. 317). Tract of land 4 miles east of town of Marion, Smith Swamp on west side; said land being part of 200 acres surveyed for James GRAVES 4th Jan 1757, late acquired by Henry FLOWERS, Jr. Mrs Rachel FLOWERS signed as widow and the children as heirs: Henry, Nathan, Elizabeth, William, *Olivia (FLOWERS) ALTMAN, Martha, Lovelace FLOWERS. Spouse: Rachel Stuart Children: Henry Nathan Elizabeth William Oliva Martha Lovelace Lovelace 1.1.4.1 Henry Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.4.2 Nathan Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.4.3 Elizabeth Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.4.4 William Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.4.5 Oliva Flowers _______________________________________________ Spouse: John Altman Children: Nancy 1.1.4.6 Martha Lovelace Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.4.7 Lovelace Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.5 William Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.6 James Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.7 Jacob Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.8 Mary “Mollie” Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.9 Elizabeth “Betsy” Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.10 Nancy Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.11 Sarah “Sallie” Flowers _______________________________________________ 1.1.12 Olivia Flowers _______________________________________________ Sources 1. W. W. Sellers, History of Marion County, South Carolina, pages 502-506. 2. Seller, Seller’s History of Marion County, Carolina. 3. Audrey Pool, ddpool@madnet.net. 4. Allene Schooler, <allenes@netgate.net>. 5. Allene Schooler, <allenes@netgate.net>. Index Altman John spouse of 1.1.4.5 Nancy child of 1.1.4.5 Flowers Anne spouse of 1.1.1.4 Annie 1.1.1.6 Annis 1.1.1.5 Archibald “Archie” 1.1.2 Bennett 1.1.1 Edward 1 Elizabeth 1.1.4.3 Elizabeth “Betsy” 1.1.9 Ervin Huger 1.1.1.3 Henry Senior 1.1 Henry Junior 1.1.4 Henry 1.1.4.1 Jacob 1.1.7 James 1.1.6 John 1.1.3 John J. 1.1.1.4 Lovelace 1.1.4.7 Martha Lovelace 1.1.4.6 Mary “Mollie” 1.1.8 Nancy 1.1.10 Nancy “Ann” spouse of 1.1.3 Nathan 1.1.1.2 Nathan 1.1.4.2 Oliva 1.1.4.5 Olivia 1.1.1.1 Olivia 1.1.12 Sarah “Sallie” 1.1.11 Taibitha K. child of 1.1.1.3 William 1.1.5 William 1.1.4.4 Godbold Ann child of 1.1.1.1 Cherry child of 1.1.1.1 David child of 1.1.1.1 General Elly spouse of 1.1.1.1 Elly (?) parent of spouse of 1.1.1.1 Huger child of 1.1.1.1 Margaret Maggie child of 1.1.1.1 Zack child of 1.1.1.1 Keffe Elizabeth spouse of 1.1.1.3 Owens Solomon spouse of 1.1.1.5 Payne Annie spouse of 1.1.1 Savage Lovelace parent of spouse of 1.1 Martha “Patsy” spouse of 1.1 Stuart Rachel spouse of 1.1.4 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCABBEVI- request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/13/2007 09:32:51
    1. [SCABBEVI] Jacob Flowers the 3rd
    2. Does anyone have anything on Jacob Flowers the 3rd ?? married Anne Hutson 1794 SC ? Name of children ??? Roy

    09/13/2007 08:57:58
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Landowner Map for Abbeville County
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: jbrevell Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.abbeville/2328.1.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Oh, thank you so much! This is my email address: jbrevell@yahoo.com If you cannot see it after I post it, it is just my user name at yahoo.com. Thanks a million, and then some!!! Joanne B. Revell Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    09/13/2007 08:38:42
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Note to Dale Reddick
    2. Dale E. Reddick
    3. Hi Herb, Thanks for the offer, but my Georgia Reddick line arrived in Savannah on the ship Three Sisters on December 21, 1737 as the 'RADICK' family. They were German-speaking Palatine Refugees who each spent several years as indentured servants to the Trustees of the Colony of Georgia. My interest in old Abbeville District lies with the 1810 marriage of James and Thomas Reddick to Joanne and Elizabeth Carrol(l). They were wed by the Reverend Moses Waddell, founder of the Willington Academy and later first president of the University of Georgia. Then, in the 1820 census there are two 'REDICK' households found in Abbeville District. They were headed by 'Anney' and Elizabeth. I suspect that Anney = Joanne and Elizabeth is probably the same individual (maybe). If one goes back through the records of the Augusta Chronicle there's a record for James and Thomas 'Riddick' of Lincoln Co., GA being tax defaulters in 1808. Lincoln County lies across the Savannah River from the upper part of McCormick County which used to be the lower portion of Abbeville District. One could envisage a pair of brothers exiting Lincoln County for Abbeville District as a way of starting a new life with new brides. The thing about this is that those two fellows aren't related to me. However, they were alive during the same period when two other fellows named Thomas Reddick were living further down the Savannah River valley in Burke and Screven Counties (between Augusta and Savannah). Those two Thomas Reddicks were my relatives. The presence of three fellows named Thomas Reddick living to either side of Augusta in the Savannah River Valley has lead to all sorts of confusion (in the past). DNA testing has helped to reduce this confusion, as we now know the two fellows in Burke and Screven Counties had descendant relatives who've been tested and this proves them not to be related to any other Reddicks in the US. We think a group of Reddicks from the panhandle of Florida are descended from this set of Reddicks who lived in Abbeville District. This hasn't been absolutely proven, but seems possible or perhaps maybe likely. Those Reddicks have also undergone DNA testing and they don't match my group of Reddicks. The results of the DNA testing prove them to be part of a separate lineage of r320 surnamed folks (including both Reddick and Reddoch surnamed folks). Those mid-Atlantic Reddicks from Maryland, Delaware, Pennsylvania, Virginia, and North Carolina tend to mostly belong to a group that we are calling the I1b2 Scots-Irish Reddick / r320 grouping. The surnames in this group include: Redick, Reddick, Riddick, Ruddock, & Wallace (the DNA testing participant with the Wallace surname reports that his grandfather changed his surname from Riddick to Wallace in late 19th century west Texas [there's gotta be a story there, somewhere & somewhen]). The results of the DNA testing have placed these folks into four different sub-groupings. Some have well-documented origins in the early 1700s of northern Ireland. Others have oral tales of Scottish origins. However, please do provide me with the information that you've mentioned. I'll forward it along to other Reddick / r320 surname researchers. We all work together, trading anything we uncover or learn about or are informed of. Half of all the Reddicks in the US have a Thomas Reddick as a close relative to an ancestor. We have to compare notes and share information so that we can keep 'em all properly separated. Dale ___________________________________ herb_316 wrote: > Dear Dale, > > Lost your e-mail address but I recently reviewed some books on VA that Alan is posting at the Mid-Atlantic site. > > I wanted to note to you that in the last volume he posted in the orderly book there was a Reddick mentioned numerous times. If you are interested and have any problems findiing it let me know and I will be more definitive. > > Herb_316@Bellsouth.net > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dale E. Reddick > To: scabbevi@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:10 AM > Subject: Re: [SCABBEVI] map > > > Hi Roy, > > Just click on the following URL link and it'll open a webpage of the > 1825 map. You can click on it to scroll about and you can also zoom in > with a magnification tool (provided in a toolbar included within the > webpage content). Check the 1820 census for wealthy neighbors of your > ancestors (large numbers of slaves being a good indicator of wealth) and > then look for them on the map. Yesterday another researcher did this > and has localized the vicinity of her likely 'Redick' ancestors in the > Savannah River valley near Willington - near the residences of William > A. Bull and Major Robertson (as also found on GIF image # 0012b.gif of > the 1820 census). The second URL provides a file listing with hotlinks > to the 1820 census pages (provided as GIF image files). Since the map > was surveyed in 1820, then the two sets of information are an almost > perfect match for finding where folks were at that time. > > Dale E. Reddick > > http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps860022-23855.html > > http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/abbeville/census/1820/ > ___________________________________ > > HUNTR404@cs.com wrote: > > I am interested in the ABBEVILLE DISTRICT SOUTH CAROLINA (SC) LANDOWNER MAP > > 1825 . I am researching FLOWERS family. > > Could anyone tell me if the map shows any FLOWERS family? > > Thanks, > > Roy <><HUNTR404@cs.com >

    09/13/2007 08:34:30
    1. [SCABBEVI] Note to Dale Reddick
    2. herb_316
    3. Dear Dale, Lost your e-mail address but I recently reviewed some books on VA that Alan is posting at the Mid-Atlantic site. I wanted to note to you that in the last volume he posted in the orderly book there was a Reddick mentioned numerous times. If you are interested and have any problems findiing it let me know and I will be more definitive. Herb_316@Bellsouth.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Dale E. Reddick To: scabbevi@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [SCABBEVI] map Hi Roy, Just click on the following URL link and it'll open a webpage of the 1825 map. You can click on it to scroll about and you can also zoom in with a magnification tool (provided in a toolbar included within the webpage content). Check the 1820 census for wealthy neighbors of your ancestors (large numbers of slaves being a good indicator of wealth) and then look for them on the map. Yesterday another researcher did this and has localized the vicinity of her likely 'Redick' ancestors in the Savannah River valley near Willington - near the residences of William A. Bull and Major Robertson (as also found on GIF image # 0012b.gif of the 1820 census). The second URL provides a file listing with hotlinks to the 1820 census pages (provided as GIF image files). Since the map was surveyed in 1820, then the two sets of information are an almost perfect match for finding where folks were at that time. Dale E. Reddick http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps860022-23855.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/abbeville/census/1820/ ___________________________________ HUNTR404@cs.com wrote: > I am interested in the ABBEVILLE DISTRICT SOUTH CAROLINA (SC) LANDOWNER MAP > 1825 . I am researching FLOWERS family. > Could anyone tell me if the map shows any FLOWERS family? > Thanks, > Roy <><HUNTR404@cs.com > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/13/2007 07:55:04
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Links to Maps and other Abbeville Data
    2. Charles Webb
    3. There is a publication that was available from Donalds Historical Society that was written by C. Newell Bowie published in 1993. It contains a map overlayed on a current map of an area by Donalds and Due West in Abbeville District. This area was called Boonesborough Township and was platted In 1762 and consisted of 20,500 acres. It shows about 70 plats with names of the owners. The Historical Society did have a web site that offered this and other publications for sale. A Google search should find them. Charles Webb "Dale E. Reddick" <dereddi@hargray.com> wrote: Hi Folks, The last link given below can be quite useful. There are two items that should be of great interest to anyone trying to understand early 19th century Abbeville District settlement. First, there is a collection GIF image files for the 1820 census of Abbeville District. http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/abbeville/census/1820/ Second, there is an online image of the 1825 Robert Mills Landowner's Map of Abbeville District. This does display all landowners. Instead, it displays principal and important landowners and sites such as mills, meeting houses, etc. as were found during a survey of the district in 1820. Both the census and the survey were conducted in the same year! This map image can be zoomed into and scrolled across in search of place names and those places where important personages resided. http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps860022-23855.html If you can find your ancestors in that listing of the 1820 census alongside their neighbors, then you can compare those neighbors against that map's display of landowners. There are possibilities in comparing these two resources. Sincerely, Dale E. Reddick __________________________________ gc-gateway@rootsweb.com wrote: > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Author: winn > Surnames: > Classification: queries > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.abbeville/2329/mb.ashx > > Message Board Post: > > These links have some interesting maps and other info as well. I hope they are of interest. Winn > > SC Historical County Lines > http://jrshelby.com/hcl/sc.htm > > South Carolina State Maps > http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/guide/countymap2.htm > > Abbeville District SC Info > http://www.linkpendium.com/genealogy/USA/SC/Abbeville/ > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Catch up on fall's hot new shows on Yahoo! TV. Watch previews, get listings, and more!

    09/13/2007 06:17:50
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Flowers family.
    2. Audrey Pool
    3. Hi Roy, I thought this was for John Yancy FLOWERS. It surprises me that I can't find him because I have large amounts of the FLOWERS...but, think there could be errors in the book. I have looked and looked for John Yancy and decided he is probably just called John in records. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: <HUNTR404@cs.com> To: <scabbevi@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2007 2:22 AM Subject: [SCABBEVI] Flowers family. > Hi Audrey, > > I am looking for info on Flowers family. > John Yancey Flowers b 1815 married Dicey Reeves 6th of > January 1836 Abbeville District , SC > > Roy <>< HUNTR404@cs.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SCABBEVI-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    09/13/2007 05:43:23
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] map
    2. Dale E. Reddick
    3. Hi Roy, Just click on the following URL link and it'll open a webpage of the 1825 map. You can click on it to scroll about and you can also zoom in with a magnification tool (provided in a toolbar included within the webpage content). Check the 1820 census for wealthy neighbors of your ancestors (large numbers of slaves being a good indicator of wealth) and then look for them on the map. Yesterday another researcher did this and has localized the vicinity of her likely 'Redick' ancestors in the Savannah River valley near Willington - near the residences of William A. Bull and Major Robertson (as also found on GIF image # 0012b.gif of the 1820 census). The second URL provides a file listing with hotlinks to the 1820 census pages (provided as GIF image files). Since the map was surveyed in 1820, then the two sets of information are an almost perfect match for finding where folks were at that time. Dale E. Reddick http://www.davidrumsey.com/maps860022-23855.html http://www.rootsweb.com/~usgenweb/sc/abbeville/census/1820/ ___________________________________ HUNTR404@cs.com wrote: > I am interested in the ABBEVILLE DISTRICT SOUTH CAROLINA (SC) LANDOWNER MAP > 1825 . I am researching FLOWERS family. > Could anyone tell me if the map shows any FLOWERS family? > Thanks, > Roy <><HUNTR404@cs.com > >

    09/13/2007 05:10:03
    1. [SCABBEVI] map
    2. I am interested in the ABBEVILLE DISTRICT SOUTH CAROLINA (SC) LANDOWNER MAP 1825 . I am researching FLOWERS family. Could anyone tell me if the map shows any FLOWERS family? Thanks, Roy <><HUNTR404@cs.com

    09/13/2007 04:56:16
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Landowner Map for Abbeville County
    2. Sheryl and Cliff Townsend
    3. I did not find any Flowers on the map that I have. Doesn't mean they didn't buy land at a later date. There is a map compiled by Richard K. McMurtry of the Colonial and Early Statehood Settlers of Calhoun Creek and Environs, Abbeville and McCormick Counties, SC if you are interested I may be able to look up an email address but I do have a snail mail address for him. sheryl

    09/13/2007 04:27:05
    1. [SCABBEVI] Flowers family.
    2. Hi Audrey, I am looking for info on Flowers family. John Yancey Flowers b 1815 married Dicey Reeves 6th of January 1836 Abbeville District , SC Roy <>< HUNTR404@cs.com

    09/12/2007 11:22:01
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Landowner Map for Abbeville County
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: cannsm Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.abbeville/2328.1.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joanne - I need your direct email address, since I cannot post attachments to the rootsweb group. I have a jpeg scan of the area you are interested in. I can send it to you directly. -Mark Cann Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    09/12/2007 08:42:51
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Landowner Map for Abbeville County
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: winn Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.abbeville/2328.1.1.1.2.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Gerry, I don't remember which county, but, would have been in the Southeastern section of Alabama. I got it through an inter-library loan. It would have been for Henry, Coffee or Covington County, AL. The other place I failed to mention is the Library of Congress. They have all sorts of Maps. However, if you will check with any larger Library in the area of your search, you should get some good leads. I didn't find anything I needed and did not keep a record. If you will notice the plats at the Bureau of Land Management are pretty good too. Winn Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    09/12/2007 06:13:31
    1. Re: [SCABBEVI] Landowner Map for Abbeville County
    2. This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: gerry0806 Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/localities.northam.usa.states.southcarolina.counties.abbeville/2328.1.1.1.2.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Joanne, What surnames are you searching for. My Prince line is all in those areas. Gerry Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board.

    09/12/2007 05:55:15