This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GeB.2ACI/940.2.2.1.2 Message Board Post: Richard, I will ask my grandfather about it. I remember him talking about Rev. James Crowther. I believe he preached at two different churches. If you are interested, I can send you a .pdf version of our family tree. However, I'm not sure about the accuracy of births and deaths. Let me know if you want me to e-mail/send it to you. Regards, Brian Murdoch

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GeB.2ACI/940.2.2.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Thanks for the offer Richard.. I know that Martha (Mattie) Clinkscales married Washington L. Prince. I believe on 10/18/1852. They are buried in Williamston Cem. in Anderson Co. I thought there was another one too, but I guess I was wrong.. However, they are mentioned in a few of the Prince wills also.. In 1840 they are living next to my Hudson Prince and Edward Prince.. As for the Wakefield name.... I haven't a clue where they tie into the Prince line... I am just assuming that it was a family name given to Hudson. I would love to see a copy of that book. Will have to check into getting it on interlibrary loan or something... Maybe the FHL has it. Where did you find it??? Prince names: John Edward George Hugh Hudson Winkfield Sylvanus or Silvanus Thanks again for anything you can find Gerry

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GeB.2ACI/940.2.2.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Gerry, I have a book entitled "The Clinkscales of America" and will be glad to look up anything that may be of help to you if you will give me names of either the CLinkscales or Prince's that you are looking for. The book's index lists 51 Prince's and 63 Wakefield's, but know Hudsons. Richard

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GeB.2ACI/940.2.2.1.1 Message Board Post: Richard, This does not refer to the Crowther surname, but to Clinkscales and Wakefield.. (in your list of surnames) I am researching the Prince line, and I know of 2 Clinkscales that married Princes.... Do you have anything on this??? Also, the middle name of my g grandfather, Hudson Prince was Wakefield. They were all living in Abbeville during the 1800s. I always wondered where the Wakefield name came from... A couple more generations back, there was another Hudson Prince that named one of his sons Winkfield. Wasn't sure if Wakefied just changed a bit over the years or if it was a family name somewhere that I wasn't aware of.. Any thoughts???

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Crowther, Alewine, Bowen, Burton, Clinkscales, Murdock, Wakefield Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GeB.2ACI/940.2.2.1 Message Board Post: Brian, I am the one who placed the original query about Rev. James Crowther and of course have a family tree back to James Crowther and Mary Hyley. The reason for my query was to try and find a connection between the Rev. James Crowther and the James Crowther who was married to Mary Hyley, which I have been unable to do. I do have lots of data concerning James and Mary and their decendants and would love to share it with you. It would be great to know what information your grandfather may have also. My connection to James and Mary is through my grandfather Kyle Dean Crowther who was the son of James Ibsan Crowther and Janie Elizabeth Pruitt. I have James Ibsan Crowther as the brother of H. Luvinia Crowther who was married to John Daniel Murdock. Richard Crowther Mobile, AL

I have been searching for many years to learn the names of the parents and siblings of Thomas Donaldson who was born 1750/1755, lived in Abbeville 2 Apr 1776 when he enlisted in Rev. Army, and died in Abbeville 1811. That is very little to know about a person, and just about all I know about Thomas Donaldson. I do know he had two wives, Janet Reeve dau of William Reeve RS, and Mary Cook. I know nothing about Mary Cook. Someone said Thomas was from Wilmington, New Hanover County, North Carolina, and that he and Mary Cook were married before he came to Abbeville. Thomas' children were: Nancy Agness, b. 17 Nov 1778 Elizabeth b. 30 Sep 1780 James, b. 22 Dec 1782 William, b. 1 Jan 1785 Thomas, b. 15 Oct 1787 Sally Cook, b. 10 Dec 1793 Rubin, b. 3 Mar 1795 Polly Ann, b. 15 Jan 1797 Daughter, b. 1799 Nimrod, b. 5 May 1802 All children were born in SC, probably Abbeville since they were born after he enlisted in 1776. Most of the children migrated into the Atlanta area in GA by 1830 census. The sons James, William, and Thomas were there a short time, but evidently moved on because they disappeared from the 1840 census. I will appreciate any help you have. I have traveled to Abbeville to try and learn where they lived at least, but to my horror, the deeds burned in 1873, so no way to check that. I have found no list of cemeteries that list Thomas and his wives. HELP!! Gloria Donaldson Wells [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Murdoch, Crowther, Cochran, Eakin, Plunkett, Davenport, Nickles Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GeB.2ACI/940.2.2 Message Board Post: Carroll, My family tree dates back to James and Mary Hyley as well. I would be interested in finding out more information about your family tree, etc. Additionally, my grandfather, Earle Murdoch, might have other information about Rev. James Crowther.

I have been searching for many years to learn the names of the parents and siblings of Thomas Donaldson who was born 1750/1755, lived in Abbeville 2 Apr 1776 when he enlisted in Rev. Army, and died in Abbeville 1811. That is very little to know about a person, and just about all I know about Thomas Donaldson. I do know he had two wives, Janet Reeve dau of William Reeve RS, and Mary Cook. I know nothing about Mary Cook. Someone said Thomas was from Wilmington, New Hanover County, North Carolina, and that he and Mary Cook were married before he came to Abbeville. Thomas' children were: Nancy Agness, b. 17 Nov 1778 Elixabeth b. 30 Sep 1780 James, b. 22 Dec 1782 William, b. 1 Jan 1785 Thomas, b. 15 Oct 1787 Sally Cook, b. 10 Dec 1793 Rubin, b. 3 Mar 1795 Polly Ann, b. 15 Jan 1797 Daughter, b. 1799 Nimrod, b. 5 May 1802 All children were born in SC, probably Abbeville since they were born after he enlisted in 1776. Most of the children migrated into the Atlanta area in GA by 1830 census. The sons James, William, and Thomas were there a short time, but evidently moved on because they disappeared from the 1840 census. I will appreciate any help you have. I have traveled to Abbeville to try and learn where they lived at least, but to my horror, the deeds burned in 1873, so no way to check that. I have found no list of cemeteries that list Thomas and his wives. HELP!! Gloria Donaldson Wells [email protected]

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: McCleskey Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GeB.2ACI/525.1.1.1.2.1.3.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Cindy - I've been out of town, so I'm trying to do some catch up on my emails. I just put a "post it" on your George Willis McCleskey on Ancestry. I'd love info on Cynthia Caroline. All I have is that she was born about 1814. Marcia

I am looking for the parents of my ancestor, Miles C. Puckett. He was born in about 1813 in SC. In checking the 1820 Abbeville census, I found 2 Puckett families that had boys under 10: Richard and Dabney. Can anyone tell me who these children of Richard and Dabney are? Melanie

We are making a research trip to South Carolina in mid-September. I want to look for my Robertson and Blakely families in Abbeville. Having never been to that city, we have no idea where to start. Does anyone have the time to write to me, giving us some info about where to go for old records? Is there a genealogy or/and historical library? Suggestions for a motel? Any info will be greatly appreciated. Freda Freda Roberson Noble Gualala Ca -- Researching my Southern Families: Roberson/Robertson/Robinson,Bonner, Blakely,Wright, Sills, Thornton, Canterbury, Godbold, Solomon, Pate, Grice, Herron, Regan, Sims, Boles, Jones.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GeB.2ACI/982 Message Board Post: Frederick Miller/Dorcus ? m. 1790-1800 Isaac Mitchell/Sarah(Sally) Shackelford m. 1790-1800 I would appreciate it if someone with access to the marriage records of Abbeville Co could look and see if marriages for the above people were recorded. Thanks Pamela D Sevier

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GeB.2ACI/981.1.1.1.1 Message Board Post: Linda: Thank you for your response. I am positive the family lived in the Abbeville area but can't find J.A. listed as "J.A." This may be a family name for a John, James or Joseph. He should show up in the 1860 census in that area aged about 10 years and not much older because I don't find him in any of the confederate soldier listings. He had to be at least 8 to 10 years old in 1960 if George was born in 1871. I am doing census searches now. Thank you for the info. Fred

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CASON, JONES Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GeB.2ACI/981.1.1 Message Board Post: Betty: My gggrandfather was George Cason (4/20/1871 to 2/5/1938). He is not in any census till 1900 and he appears with a family, including his wife Minnie (Jones), and children Otis, Max, Walter, Marcus, James, Pearl and Ida. I believe J.A, his father, died before the 1880 census. Death certificate for George lists middle name as Round, which is unusual. No mother listed. Thank you for your help. fred

Dee, I've found quite a bit of evidence of the migration of networks of interrelated families from Abbeville-Pendleton Dist., SC, around 1820. My Green family (John Green and Jane Kerr), who moved from Abbeville to Pendleton by 1790, moved to Bibb Co., AL, in 1818. In the Andrew Pickens Papers and the John Ewing Colhoun Papers at the South Caroliniana library in Columbia, I have found letters indicating that Andrew Pickens, first cousin of John Green's wife Jane Kerr (son of her aunt Rebecca Calhoun and husband Gen. Andrew Pickens) also moved to AL around this same time. A 23 Aug. 1819 letter of Andrew Pickens to Capt. Wm. Noble of Abbeville in the Andrew Pickens papers says that Pickens was in Monticello, Jasper Co., GA, returning from "the Alabama" where he had left Jhis brother Joseph, who was intending to go to Tuscaloosa. This letter interests me since the early records of Bibb Co. are filed in Tuscaloosa Co. It suggests to me that these cousins of Jane Kerr Green migrated to AL from SC at the same time as did the John Green family. In addition, a 21 April 1819 letter of Floride Bonneau Colhoun to her son James Edward, in the John Ewing Colhoun collection, mentions that Col. Pickens was to go to "the Alabama" for 2 months. Floride's husband John Ewing Colhoun was a brother to Jane Kerr Green's mother Mary Calhoun Kerr. From all I can gather, a primary motivating factor in this migration was that new lands opened up after the native Americans in AL were defeated and the state opened to settlement in 1816. In addition, the invention of the cotton gin allowed cotton grown in upland areas to be more easily processed. With the new lands opening and the expansion of the cotton kingdom, families were eager to move west and try their luck at making a fortune in the growing edge of the Cotton Kingdom.

There were some Speer's and Miller's that married into the Hodges Family in Jefferson Co., Alabama, Any kin? I have been hunting the Parents Names of my GG Grandfather, Leroy H. Hodges born in 1806, he was in Laurens Co., in 1830 then in Abbeville Co., the Old 96th Dist in the 1840 Census, and then on to Jefferson Co., Alabama in the 1850 Census where he died. One of Leroy's Grand Son's was Charles Wesley Hodges married a << Maggie >> Margaret Frances Brake, which was related into the Speer Family. PeggySue <O'Shields> Gaddis [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 8:41 AM Subject: [Abbeville] historical info > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Surnames: Young, Speer, Miller, Clowdus, Murpree, McDonald, Bridges, Ellis > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GeB.2ACI/980 > > Message Board Post: > > It seems a fair number of my ancestors were born in or around Abbeville District in the early 1800s and later many of them moved to Jefferson Co and Blount Co AL in the 1830s and 1840s. Just curous about whether Abbeville was a gateway to the deeper south or just why so many seemed to come from and end up in the same places. > > Some of the family names: Young (reputed Cherokee), Miller (Methodist preacher), Speer (married a Young), Copeland (married a Miller), Clowdus and Murpree (married a Clowdus). > > I've really just started my research and am not organized yet, but these coincidences caught my attention. Any websites out there about the history of Abbeville? Or any other sources to satisfy my curiousity? > > > ==== SCABBEVI Mailing List ==== > The blood and courage that renowned them > Runs in your veins; >

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GeB.2ACI/981.1 Message Board Post: Fred what is your greatgrandfather's name and birth date. That might help find him on census records as a child.

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: CASON Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GeB.2ACI/981 Message Board Post: I finally found my greatgrandfather's death certificate and his father is listed as J.A. Cason, born probably about 1850 in the Abbeville, Edgefield or maybe Anderson areas. Can anyone help me with this family?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Young, Speer, Miller, Clowdus, Murpree, McDonald, Bridges, Ellis Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/an/GeB.2ACI/980 Message Board Post: It seems a fair number of my ancestors were born in or around Abbeville District in the early 1800s and later many of them moved to Jefferson Co and Blount Co AL in the 1830s and 1840s. Just curous about whether Abbeville was a gateway to the deeper south or just why so many seemed to come from and end up in the same places. Some of the family names: Young (reputed Cherokee), Miller (Methodist preacher), Speer (married a Young), Copeland (married a Miller), Clowdus and Murpree (married a Clowdus). I've really just started my research and am not organized yet, but these coincidences caught my attention. Any websites out there about the history of Abbeville? Or any other sources to satisfy my curiousity?

This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/GeB.2ACI/525.1.1.1.2.1.3.1.1 Message Board Post: Marcia, Yes !!!! Their daughter Cynthia Caroline McCleskey married James Alfred Jones. Most people don't know anything about Cynthia but I've found Bible records of the Jones's naming dates and places.Cindy