Cynthia, I'm probably not the person that you're looking for... but I do know of a Hezekiah Watson who is buried in the Hodges Family Cemetery in Greenwood County, SC. I have no idea how he is related to my Hodges ancestors, but surely he must be or he wouldn't be there!!! I hope this helps... I also have the book ABSTRACTS OF OLD NINETY-SIX AND ABBEVILLE DISTRICT WILLS AND BONDS, by Pauline Young, and his will abstract is in there. I'll send it to you if this is the ancestor that you are looking for... Here's the site ftp://ftp.rootsweb.com/pub/usgenweb/sc/greenwood/cemeteries/hodges.txt Good luck... Mary At 09:27 AM 3/22/03 -0600, Cynthia E Chandler wrote: >I hope the person I'm looking for is on this list.......... > >Back a few months ago, someone kindly sent me two files on Watson's that >were on the Saluda River. > >Unfortunately, before I could get the files saved to a secure location, I >lost all my email. > >If that person is on this list, could you kindly resend the files to me. I >promise to get them stored right away. ;-) > >Cynthia > > > >--- >Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. >Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). >Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003 > > >==== SC-OLD96 Mailing List ==== >Your list administrator is: Eldon Wade. If you need help, please feel >free to contact me personally: mailto:ewade@cfl.rr.com > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

In a message dated 3/22/2003 9:25:31 AM Central Standard Time, cynthia625@bwsys.net writes: > J &W Enterprises (Southern States) > http://www.dhc.net/~jw/index.html > Found the search link not working but everything else was fine. Try this one. <A HREF="http://www.dhc.net/~jw/index.html">http://www.dhc.net/~jw/index.html</A> Annette Carpenter Womack Assistant State Coordinator LaGenWeb Parish Coordinator of Winn Parish Web Page Winnfield LA Family History Center Director Author and compiler of books on Louisiana Professional Genealogist Specializing in North Louisiana research Member of Association of Professional Genealogists Member of International Society of Family History Writers & Editors ftp://members.aol.com/annettewomack/genealogy/gservices.htm

James LINDSEY: > >James is father of Isaac Lindsey born 1807 SC. Isaac is father of >John William Lindsey born 1843 Wilkinson co GA.[My paternal >GGrandFather] This John Lindsey was the Pension Commissioner of the >State of Georgia. > From a biography on this John William Lindsey in the book Men of >Mark in Georgia, Volume 5, "the family is of Scotch-Irish origin; >the first ancestor in America came from Ireland to America and >settled in South Carolina prior to the Revolution. A great-uncle, >John Lindsey, distinguisheded himself as a soldier in the Patriot >ranks at the battles of Kings Mountian and Cowpens." This is all the information I have on James. Greatfully from a LINDSEY"Cuzn" and from my own copy of "Men of Mark in Georgia, Vol.5". James m. Sarah Frost in SC date unknown. I would love to trace my LINDSEYs back further than James if possible.Since my LINDSEYs "settled in SC prior to the Rev. " I am hopeful to find records of him and his family in SC. Possible a ship list ..actually anything would be helpful! ********************** James HOLT: James (dob unknw in Halifax co, VA;dod 1827,Houston co, GA) married Jane STANFIELD (dates ukwn) 24 Dec 1782, Halifax co, VA. Last record I have in Halifax co, VA 1811. Then next record is in GA in Greene co, GA for William, his son . All this I have second hand from another HOLT "Cuzn" and birth info. of William's son in Greene co,GA. Some folks migrated from Halifax co, VA to GA directly but I have found the HOLT name(not necessarily MY line) in the Ole 96 area....Perhaps they settled for awhile in SC??? Lots of gaps...no records...and much frustration. I think both HOLT & LINDSEY families had ties with the "Ole 96" area...any clues, help would be MOST appreciated and I am willing to share the information I have on my families. -- Betty Faye (double first name, ole Suth'n custom) in NH...don't ask. "You can take the gal out of the South, but you can't take the South out of the gal!" Researching: Paternal: HOLT, LINDSEY, CARSWELL, MATHIS, TURNER, TUCKER, RUTHERFORD; Maternal: CLOUD, CHILDRESS, HARMON, WHEELER; Also: PLUMMER

Hi Betty Faye, I noticed that you have the paternal surnames of LINDSEY and MATHIS. I am chasing three MATHIS brothers (Obediah b. abt. 1800 NC, Talton b. abt. 1803 NC, and Lindsey b. abt. 1807 NC). These guys were in McMinn Co TN, Roane Co TN, and Meigs Co TN from 1820s to at least 1880s. The given name Lindsey (spelled variously) is very common among their descendants. As you probably know, MATHIS is often spelled MATHES, MATHEW, MATHEWS, MATTHEWS, etc. Do you recognize any of these brothers? Do you have any MATHIS folks from NC or TN? Have you found the use of LINDSEY in your MATHIS lines? Thank you, Eldon mailto:ewade@cfl.rr.com List admin for SC-Old96 Researching: WADE, HAMES -----Original Message----- From: Betty Faye Lawton [mailto:fuzdawg@metrocast.net] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:44 AM To: SC-OLD96-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Old96] Online Book Stores At 9:24 -0600 03/22/03, Cynthia E Chandler wrote: >If anyone has other online stores they are using for southern states, I >would appreciate an email from you. Please , if you have online bookstore sites to share, please post them to the List so all of us can benefit..I too am up in Yankee country and all my reseach is down South. Thank you, -- Betty Faye (double first name, ole Suth'n custom) in NH...don't ask. "You can take the gal out of the South, but you can't take the South out of the gal!" Researching: Paternal: HOLT, LINDSEY, CARSWELL, MATHIS, TURNER, TUCKER, RUTHERFORD; Maternal: CLOUD, CHILDRESS, HARMON, WHEELER; Also: PLUMMER ==== SC-OLD96 Mailing List ==== Anyone "flaming" another member or being otherwise discourteous will receive one private warning and the second offense will result in your being barred from this list. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I have noticed the information concerning Online Book Stores. I have recently ordered and received a CD containing a book first printed in 1894, "Estes Genealogies" by Charled Estes. I could have received a reprinted book of the same, but I chose the images on a CD (cheaper). They have family genealogies in their catalog. The following is information on that store: Quintin Publications 22 Delta Drive, Pawtucket, RI 02860-4555 Info : 401-723-6797 | Orders : 1-800-74-ROOTS (76687) Their web page is: http://www.quintinpublications.com/famcat.htm I was very pleased with their service. A. D. Smith -----Original Message----- From: Betty Faye Lawton [mailto:fuzdawg@metrocast.net] Sent: Saturday, March 22, 2003 10:44 AM To: SC-OLD96-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Old96] Online Book Stores At 9:24 -0600 03/22/03, Cynthia E Chandler wrote: >If anyone has other online stores they are using for southern states, I >would appreciate an email from you. Please , if you have online bookstore sites to share, please post them to the List so all of us can benefit..I too am up in Yankee country and all my reseach is down South. Thank you, -- Betty Faye (double first name, ole Suth'n custom) in NH...don't ask. "You can take the gal out of the South, but you can't take the South out of the gal!" Researching: Paternal: HOLT, LINDSEY, CARSWELL, MATHIS, TURNER, TUCKER, RUTHERFORD; Maternal: CLOUD, CHILDRESS, HARMON, WHEELER; Also: PLUMMER ==== SC-OLD96 Mailing List ==== Anyone "flaming" another member or being otherwise discourteous will receive one private warning and the second offense will result in your being barred from this list. ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

At 9:24 -0600 03/22/03, Cynthia E Chandler wrote: >If anyone has other online stores they are using for southern states, I >would appreciate an email from you. Please , if you have online bookstore sites to share, please post them to the List so all of us can benefit..I too am up in Yankee country and all my reseach is down South. Thank you, -- Betty Faye (double first name, ole Suth'n custom) in NH...don't ask. "You can take the gal out of the South, but you can't take the South out of the gal!" Researching: Paternal: HOLT, LINDSEY, CARSWELL, MATHIS, TURNER, TUCKER, RUTHERFORD; Maternal: CLOUD, CHILDRESS, HARMON, WHEELER; Also: PLUMMER

I hope the person I'm looking for is on this list.......... Back a few months ago, someone kindly sent me two files on Watson's that were on the Saluda River. Unfortunately, before I could get the files saved to a secure location, I lost all my email. If that person is on this list, could you kindly resend the files to me. I promise to get them stored right away. ;-) Cynthia --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003

After reading the first series of posts, I decided to do a search and also to check out the bookmarks I have on my system. You would not believe the number of genealogy bookstores that are no longer online I tried the link for TLC and it's not there anymore. On various links I noted that Willow Bend had evidently bought them out. So it looks as if we will need to be very careful in our purchases and stay with the shops that have been around for a while. Of course that's not necessarily the case either. Here are a few that I've found very good and the links are still there: Ye Olde Genealogie Shoppe/she also coordinator for several websites http://www.yogs.com/ Byron Sistler and Associates, Inc. http://www.mindspring.com/~sistler/ Higgerson Book Company http://www.higgersonbooks.com/ J & W Enterprises (Southern States) http://www.dhc.net/~jw/index.html Found the search link not working but everything else was fine. And of course, Willow Bend Books http://www.willowbendbooks.com/ I have a lot of others, but all of my research is in the southern states. I found some of the older ones, such as the Picton link didn't work. If anyone has other online stores they are using for southern states, I would appreciate an email from you. Cynthia East Peoria, IL --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.463 / Virus Database: 262 - Release Date: 3/17/2003

I really don't understand why the site is still on-line or why *no one* is explaining exactly what the problem is. This has been a very reputable company for many years and it's very sad to see it end this way. Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: <JAS17@aol.com> To: <SC-OLD96-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 21, 2003 9:53 AM Subject: [Old96] TLC Books > I had the same experience as Joy did with TLC books.

Hi, I had the same experience as Joy did with TLC books. I placed an order on November 19, received an immediate confirming email as response -- and never heard another word. I emailed and continue to do so periodically. Still get no reply. Their 800 number has been disconnected. Their fax number, in Dec., was still operational and I faxed them, but got no reply. They have not, however, charged my credit card. So I am still in limbo. But as there has been no charge made, I have had nothing to "stop." A person on another list had a similar experience with them. She heard they were going to be back after Jan 22, but when I last contacted her, they hadn't replied to her after that, either. Barbara

I have used www.WillowBendBooks.com several times, you can type in a state under genealogy. They are very prompt, and notify you when it is sent. Sandy Garrett Owsley

Hi All! Regarding my plea concerning Iberian Press; someone came through with two phone numbers & a name I didn't have. I called the 1-800 number which has morphed into a 1-900 number and a recording comes on saying you must be over 18 yrs of age and that the call will cost you 1.99 per call. I wouldn't call it being afraid of the sound of it. So, I then called the regular number and on the second try I got an answer. It rings to John Vogt's house. He used to own Iberian but has sold it to the employee's and has not been paid. There are a lot of legal issues going on. That is probably why Chris Alexander won't answer his calls. John apologized profusely, said he still has books on hand and has the one I want and promised to send my order right out; we'll see how this goes. He seems to think his 17 yr old son took the original order and promptly lost it. I'm still going to call my credit card company & put a stop on it. John gave me his email address for further ordering or correspondence but we will wait & see how this goes. I probably won't use them ever again. He did put in a plug for Willow Bend Books and I have heard others say they have used them, so I will probably use them in future. Thanks for all the replies I received. Lyn Lewis

I've had the same problem with T.L.C. Genealogy Books. On Feb. 8th I placed an online order (according to their new web site this is the only way you can order now) and received an e-mail order confirmation notice. I've been a long time customer and have always received my orders promptly but am still waiting for this one. I've sent e-mail messages to the customer service and owner's addresses, called the 1-800 number (which has been disconnected) and mailed a letter to the s-mail address. Still no response from anyone!!! Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: <Lynthecat1@aol.com> To: <SC-OLD96-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2003 6:11 AM Subject: [Old96] Phone # for Iberian Press > > Hi! > I hope someone can help me with this. > What has happened to Iberian Press?

Hi! I hope someone can help me with this. What has happened to Iberian Press? Almost three weeks ago I got hold of a real human and ordered a couple of books. I was told they would ship in three days. I gave them my credit card number, address and phone number. I have yet to receive anything and I have called and emailed them. I keep getting the voice mail for a Chris Alexander but he will not answer or return my call. I emailed several people there and no one responded. The phone numbers I have are 1-877-569-9742, toll free, but rings to Chris Alexander's voice mail and 1-706-310-1393, which you are charged for but also rings to Chris Alexander's voice mail. Are there some other numbers to which a human will answer? A customer service number? A customer service email address? Have they gone out of business within the last two weeks? Does anyone know what is going on? Thanks, Lyn

I have just recently joined this list (just in time for the Roll Call) and I would like to introduce myself and post the family that I am researching. I am trying to determine if James Huggins (b. circa 1812 in No or So Carolina and d. 1862 in Page Co, IA) is connected to the Huggins family from the Old 96 area. I have information about a David Huggins and wife, Susannah, and his brother, Robert and their sister, Mary Jane Huggins Lively and her husband, John Lively, from the Craven District who all migrated to what is now Washington Co, IL around 1800. My James shows up in that area prior to 1840 when he married Mary (Margaret) Buckinghaus (Buckingham). Later the family moved on to Page County, IA. If anyone on the list is working on the Huggins family or can suggest how I might learn more about them, I would appreciate hearing from them. Mary F Kelley email address: mfk@valink.com

Today I gave credit to "South Carolina pension abstracts of the Revolutionary War, War of 1812 & Indian Wars" by Annie Walker Burns Bell, FHL US/CAN 975.7 M24b. I just cannot let this go without praises also for FHL 855233 Part 1, DAR SC Pension Records. Thank you, DAR, for all the great work you have done in preserving so much of our history and heritage. ===== Sheila (SpiritHawk) Gibson ~ Help Jamie Help E.B. Suffers: www.anetherealsuite.com Thank You! Wado!

THE FOLLOWING PEOPLE ARE MENTIONED IN SOUTH CAROLINA AND NORTH CAROLINA REVOLUTIONARY WAR PENSION ABSTRACT RECORD OF JACOB BROWN, BELOW: , Ruth (Brown) (maiden name not stated) George Avery Elizabeth Bird Colonel Thomas Brandon Bird Brown Captain Gabriel Brown Jacob Brown (b. 1736) Jacob Brown (b. 1761) Jacob Keen Brown Louisah Gains Brown Malinda Brown Matthew Moore Brown Mary Brown Rebecca Brown Ruth Brown Sarah Brown Thomas J. Brown William Brown Colonel Casey Captain Farr Captain Gordon Captain Otterman Colonel Pickens Colonel John Sevier Colonel John Thomas Colonel Williams Captain Thomas Woods # # # # # # # # # (Quote Follows) SOUTH CAROLINA AND NORTH CAROLINA SERVICE OF JACOB BROWN AND ELIZABETH W333 The data which follow were obtained from the papers on file in Revolutionary war pension claim W333 based upon the military service in that war of Jacob Brown. Jacob Brown was Born August 3, 1761, on Jumping Run Creek near Columbia South Carolina. He was the son of Jacob Brown who was born December 11 1736 and died June 28 1785, and his wife Ruth (maiden name not stated) who was born August 14, 1740 and died between October 8 and 9, 1810. The places of birth of Jacob Brown, Senior and his wife, Ruth, are not stated. Jacob Brown enlisted in NINETY SIX DISTRICT South Carolina 1778 or 1779 and served 4 months as a private in Captain Farr�s company, Col John Thomas� SC regiment; he enlisted Jan or Feb 1780 and served 3 or 4 months in Capt Farr�s Company Col Pickens, SC regiment and was in an engagement at Ogeche In April 1780, he went to Mecklenburgh Co NC and joined Capt Gordon�s company, Col Thomas Brandon�s regiment and was at the battles of Rocky Mount and Hanging Rock, after which eh [sic] was appointed ensign and attached to the company of Capt Gabriel Brown (his cousin), Col Williams� regiment; he then joined the company of Capt Jacob Brown (his father), a resident of Washington Co NC, later a part of Tennessee), Col Sevier�s NC regiment and was at the battle of King�s mountain, sered [sic] 7 months in all. In fall of 1780, while a resident of Washington Co NC he served 2 or 3 months as ensign in said Capt Jacob Brown�s company, Col John Sevier�s NC regiment. He returned to South Carolina, in March 1781, and in April 1781 enlisted and served as a private in Capt Otterman�s and George Avery�s companies, Col Casey�s South Carolina regiment and was at the siege of Ninety-Six and discharged Nov 1781. In Dec 1781, he returned to Washington Co NC and Sept 1782, he enlisted in Capt Thomas Woods� company, Col Sevier�s NC regiment and served 2 or 3 months as private. Jacob Brown was allowed pension on his application executed Sept 11, 1832, while a resident of Washington Co Tenn. In 1833 he was referred to as �Colonel Jacob Brown� no explanation for the tile [sic] was given. He died Aug 21 23 or 28 (all these dates are shown 1838. He married Feb 9 1786 in Washington Co NC to Elizabeth Bird, who was born Jan 28 1769. Elizabeth was allowed pension on her application executed October 4, 1841 while a resident of Washington Co Tennessee. CHILDREN OF JACOB AND ELIZABETH BROWN: RUTH BROWN Born October 15 1787 WILLIAM � � 9 1789 THOMAS J � September 15 179_ SARAH � March 4 1794 died 3-25-1797 MARY � November 5 1796 REBECCA � February 8 1799 BIRD � October 20 1801 JACOB KEEN BROWN January 28, 1804 MALINDA BROWN � 5, 1807 The following family data are shown also Jacob Logan son of J K Brown born Aug 8 1829 Matthew Moore Brown born Aug 7 1830 Louisah Gains Brown born April 17 1832 Their mother died April 27 1832 In order to obtain date of last payment of pension, name and address of person paid and possibly date of of [sic] death of the Revolutionary pensioner, Elizabeth Brown widow of Jacob Brown you should address this compiler and quote; Certificate No 5272 Issued April 10 1846 Rate $80 per annum Commenced March 4 1843 Act of March 3 1843 Tennessee, Jonesboro, Agency # # # # # # # # # Transcribed by Sheila Gibson (s2gibso@yahoo.com) from South Carolina pension abstracts of the Revolutionary War, War of 1812 & Indian Wars by Annie Walker Burns Bell, FHL US/CAN 975.7 M24b ===== Sheila (SpiritHawk) Gibson ~ Help Jamie Help E.B. Suffers: www.anetherealsuite.com Thank You! Wado!

OK the vote is in. 32 in favor of full disclosure of the divorce records and 8 for just the names and dates. Those 8 gave some very good arguments for withholding the reason for the divorce but I said I would go with what ever the majority said. A word of caution before you check out the info. I did this abstract several years ago. Over half of the records have only the name and date and sometimes the date of marriage. I can't remember why. The next time I go to the Archives I will recheck these records and post any changes. ALSO - be aware that this was a civil case, not a criminal case. Most of the info came from an affidavit given by the person seeking the divorce. There was usually not a reply from the defendant. Just because the charge was made did not necessarily mean it was 100 percent true. One added benefit you will derive from these records is the date of marriage. There are 52 divorces listed. I only found 10 of these marriages recorded in the Henderson County marriage records. Some of the divorces gave the county where the marriage took place as well as the date of the marriage. Enough said. The records are posted. www.ksummers.com Please let me know if you find them useful. Kathy

Does anyone have any proof of the marraige of Henry Garrett and Mary Martindale Between 1801 and 1802 in Cross Keys, Union Co., SC. Thanks, ~LauraS --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Web Hosting - establish your business online

Looking for information on Rev. Soldier Vines Harris - lived in Greenville & Spartanburg Counties. Leigh C. Smith http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Acres/4730/index.html http://wallsoftime.tripod.com/index.htm