Hi Mickey, So far, we have had 3 men who join the Genographic project transfer their 12 marker test results to the our surname project. I welcomed them with open arms, and recommended that they participate in the free Sorenson project so we can get additional DNA data for them. One of the men had a unique 12 marker haplotype which had at least a 3 genetic distance to all the other 51 members of our project. If we ever find anyone who matches his 12 markers, it will most likely be someone from his close family. He doesn't want to spend any more money on testing and is not in a hurry for the results so he is submitting a sample to Sorenson. The other two men fell into our most popular group with a lot of matches or near matches. Again, one is not in a hurry and selected to go the free Sorenson route. The third man is in a hurry so he chose to purchase the FTDNA 37-marker test as well as submit a sample to Sorenson for their free test. In the end, he will have data for 48 markers. BTW, this man had a mutation in the marker 389i which is identical to that for a man who is a member of a family described in an old book on our surname. They are the only two in our project who have this mutation. This points him in a new direction searching for his brick wall. Bruce Baird In a message dated 2/20/2006 6:14:32 PM Central Standard Time, mickey@se.rr.com writes: I sent my DNA to the Genographic project because 1) I think it is a very worthwhile undertaking. Yes, I know they are using my money to test DNA of the few remaining indigenous people but that's fine with me. If they don't do it now, those populations will have just blended in with the rest of us. 2) You can transfer your DNA to FamilyTreeDNA and pay for extra "markers" if that is applicable. The 12 marker test is $129 or more through most of the surname groups and $99 through NG. I am female so I don't have that doesn't apply to me. 3) They go overboard with privacy. They send you a kit with a number and that number is the only thing that identifies your DNA. If you lose it, you are out of luck. And, who's to say the FBI won't be able to obtain your DNA from you surnman project. It would surely be a whole lot easier to identify you!! 4) If you want to break down your brick walls, you need a LOT more than a DNA test! Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE CR 252 Lake City, FL 32025