Dear Mildred, Just what I have been saying. You need a DNA data base of your surname, not just one test. Many DNA participants. The more the better. A single test for you from the Genographic Project does no good by itself other than gives other people information on your origin back in time. This is not totally sufficient and true. You will find that this 12 marker test also is not sufficient to track your origin. You need an SNP test and a deep clades test and if there is a data base of people to match to there maybe you can track where your family came from back in time. No guarantee. I just did this and I have a unique Haplotype which has no traceable ancestors back into the last ice age that have been mapped at this time. Doesn't solve your family history problem. A single DNA test does absolutely no good. You also need independently acquired family histories obtained through research for each surname DNA participant. Any good DNA Project Administrator will tell you this. My postings have been to clarify this, as a lot of the Genogrphic Project managers do not do this. Your conclusions valid. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Mickey Fournier<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:13 PM Subject: RE: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the Initiators I sent my DNA to the Genographic project because 1) I think it is a very worthwhile undertaking. Yes, I know they are using my money to test DNA of the few remaining indigenous people but that's fine with me. If they don't do it now, those populations will have just blended in with the rest of us. 2) You can transfer your DNA to FamilyTreeDNA and pay for extra "markers" if that is applicable. The 12 marker test is $129 or more through most of the surname groups and $99 through NG. I am female so I don't have that doesn't apply to me. 3) They go overboard with privacy. They send you a kit with a number and that number is the only thing that identifies your DNA. If you lose it, you are out of luck. And, who's to say the FBI won't be able to obtain your DNA from you surnman project. It would surely be a whole lot easier to identify you!! 4) If you want to break down your brick walls, you need a LOT more than a DNA test! Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE CR 252 Lake City, FL 32025 mickey@se.rr.com<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Herbert Hendricks [mailto:Herb_316@msn.com] > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:58 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the Initiators > > To All, > > Please read the following quote: > > "Last year, in April (2005) the National Geographic Society > threw its weight behind a distinctly 21st-century mapping > effort: The Genographic Project. under the leadership of > geneticist, Spencer Wells, its scientist will collect and > analyze DNA of 100,000 people. By mapping the global > distribution of genetic markers, they hope to develop a > detailed picture of humanity's migration out of Africa." > > "Wells was a graduate student of population geneticist Luigi > Luca Cavalli-Sforza, who first linked the disciplines of > genetics and geography, pioneering what he naturally termed > "genetic geography." In a landmark letter published in > Genomics in 1991, Cavalli-Sforza called for a "worldwide > survey of human genomic diversity" fearing that just as > science was coming into its own, the populations most in need > of study were heading toward extinction. The idea transformed > the Human Genomic Diversity Project (HDGP), a forerunner of > Wells' effort, and the term "genetic geography" morphed into > the quotable hybrid "genography." But the HDGP fizzled, and > the term genography lay dormant until it was revived last > year. Now, with thousand of participants to date--and its > share of controversies-the Genographic Project stand to go > down in history and bring the word genography with it." > > This is what was being sold by DNA companies (who have made > huge bucks off of this project) to numerous Genographic > Project DNA managers the DNA companies recruited throughout > the USA. However in order to get people to participate the > propaganda was changed to "we'll connect you to your family > with a $99 - 12 marker DNA test." Many SC Web sites were > posted to this message to recruit people to participate in > the program. > > No one sought to tell people that 12 marker DNA tests could > connect you to your surname and to many others also who were > not your kin. The DNA companies started fostering these > people off on Family DNA Project to take the rein and explain > that 12 marker DNA tests didn't solve your family > connectivity problem. The local Genographic Project managers > continued to recruit people until it became ridiculous, get > your 12 marker test and connect to your family was the > message. That is when people, like me, started posting what > was the truth. It takes collective people in the same family > with matching family histories and matching DNA markers up to > 37+ to match up your family lineage and show it is true. > > To many little white lies still out there. > > In addition this Genographic Project DNA information is > available publicly who know who else will use it 1) the FBI > for their criminal data base, 2) the US Government, etc. > > So if you really want to use DNA to solve your family > history problems, just join a your Surname DNA Project and > work with the people there to get a sufficient data base of > your family group and you will have a better than even chance > to solve those brick walls. > > If you want some more of our brick wall stories contact me off line. > > God Bless. > Herb Hendricks > Retired NASA Physicist > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks > Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com>> > 1210 Long Meadow DR > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > 434 832 7246 > Major/Smith/Hendricks > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu<http://wwwftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu> > blic/hendricks/> > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > Digest SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com> > List SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com> > only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > No signature/No nothing! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. 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As I previously stated, I am female. Isn't the "marker" thing associated with Y chromosome DNA? I've been involved in genealogy research for nearly 30 years...before most courthouse had copy machines...and certainly before this internet technology or DNA tests. Isn't it amazing how far we have come in such a short while? Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE CR 252 Lake City, FL 32025 mickey@se.rr.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Herbert Hendricks [mailto:Herb_316@msn.com] > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:19 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the > Initiators > > Dear Mildred, > > Just what I have been saying. > > You need a DNA data base of your surname, not just one test. > > Many DNA participants. The more the better. > > A single test for you from the Genographic Project does no > good by itself other than gives other people information on > your origin back in time. This is not totally sufficient and true. > > You will find that this 12 marker test also is not sufficient > to track your origin. You need an SNP test and a deep clades > test and if there is a data base of people to match to there > maybe you can track where your family came from back in time. > No guarantee. > > I just did this and I have a unique Haplotype which has no > traceable ancestors back into the last ice age that have been > mapped at this time. > > Doesn't solve your family history problem. A single DNA test > does absolutely no good. > > You also need independently acquired family histories > obtained through research for each surname DNA participant. > Any good DNA Project Administrator will tell you this. > > My postings have been to clarify this, as a lot of the > Genogrphic Project managers do not do this. > > Your conclusions valid. > > > Herb Hendricks > Retired NASA Physicist > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks > Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> > 1210 Long Meadow DR > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > 434 832 7246 > Major/Smith/Hendricks > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu > blic/hendricks/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mickey Fournier<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com> > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:13 PM > Subject: RE: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by > the Initiators > > > I sent my DNA to the Genographic project because > > 1) I think it is a very worthwhile undertaking. Yes, I > know they are using > my money to test DNA of the few remaining indigenous people > but that's fine > with me. If they don't do it now, those populations will > have just blended > in with the rest of us. > > 2) You can transfer your DNA to FamilyTreeDNA and pay for > extra "markers" if > that is applicable. The 12 marker test is $129 or more > through most of the > surname groups and $99 through NG. I am female so I don't > have that doesn't > apply to me. > > 3) They go overboard with privacy. They send you a kit > with a number and > that number is the only thing that identifies your DNA. If > you lose it, you > are out of luck. And, who's to say the FBI won't be able > to obtain your DNA > from you surnman project. It would surely be a whole lot > easier to identify > you!! > > 4) If you want to break down your brick walls, you need a > LOT more than a > DNA test! > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > 1730 SE CR 252 > Lake City, FL 32025 > mickey@se.rr.com<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com> > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Herbert Hendricks [mailto:Herb_316@msn.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:58 PM > > To: > SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the > Initiators > > > > To All, > > > > Please read the following quote: > > > > "Last year, in April (2005) the National Geographic Society > > threw its weight behind a distinctly 21st-century mapping > > effort: The Genographic Project. under the leadership of > > geneticist, Spencer Wells, its scientist will collect and > > analyze DNA of 100,000 people. By mapping the global > > distribution of genetic markers, they hope to develop a > > detailed picture of humanity's migration out of Africa." > > > > "Wells was a graduate student of population geneticist Luigi > > Luca Cavalli-Sforza, who first linked the disciplines of > > genetics and geography, pioneering what he naturally termed > > "genetic geography." In a landmark letter published in > > Genomics in 1991, Cavalli-Sforza called for a "worldwide > > survey of human genomic diversity" fearing that just as > > science was coming into its own, the populations most in need > > of study were heading toward extinction. The idea transformed > > the Human Genomic Diversity Project (HDGP), a forerunner of > > Wells' effort, and the term "genetic geography" morphed into > > the quotable hybrid "genography." But the HDGP fizzled, and > > the term genography lay dormant until it was revived last > > year. Now, with thousand of participants to date--and its > > share of controversies-the Genographic Project stand to go > > down in history and bring the word genography with it." > > > > This is what was being sold by DNA companies (who have made > > huge bucks off of this project) to numerous Genographic > > Project DNA managers the DNA companies recruited throughout > > the USA. However in order to get people to participate the > > propaganda was changed to "we'll connect you to your family > > with a $99 - 12 marker DNA test." Many SC Web sites were > > posted to this message to recruit people to participate in > > the program. > > > > No one sought to tell people that 12 marker DNA tests could > > connect you to your surname and to many others also who were > > not your kin. The DNA companies started fostering these > > people off on Family DNA Project to take the rein and explain > > that 12 marker DNA tests didn't solve your family > > connectivity problem. The local Genographic Project managers > > continued to recruit people until it became ridiculous, get > > your 12 marker test and connect to your family was the > > message. That is when people, like me, started posting what > > was the truth. It takes collective people in the same family > > with matching family histories and matching DNA markers up to > > 37+ to match up your family lineage and show it is true. > > > > To many little white lies still out there. > > > > In addition this Genographic Project DNA information is > > available publicly who know who else will use it 1) the FBI > > for their criminal data base, 2) the US Government, etc. > > > > So if you really want to use DNA to solve your family > > history problems, just join a your Surname DNA Project and > > work with the people there to get a sufficient data base of > > your family group and you will have a better than even chance > > to solve those brick walls. > > > > If you want some more of our brick wall stories contact > me off line. > > > > God Bless. > > Herb Hendricks > > Retired NASA Physicist > > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks > > Family Association > Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.c om<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com>> > > 1210 Long Meadow DR > > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > > 434 832 7246 > > Major/Smith/Hendricks > > > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu > <http://wwwftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu> > > blic/hendricks/> > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > > Digest > SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-D-requ est@rootsweb.com> > > List > SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L-requ est@rootsweb.com> > > only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > > No signature/No nothing! > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. 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