Thanks Teresa, I'll accept with great thanks anything at all that may help answer some of these old questions that keep popping up over and over again. I also got a reply from a man I do not know about the PACE information that I posted. He made contact off list. I will keep the list posted as to what I learn but will not post his name or information. I figure he contacted me off list for a reason. Gail [email protected] [email protected] BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching!