Just a comment. I don't like the fact that ancestry.com does try to lure you in, but I have to say I really have used their census information. Also, I did have some trouble with connecting, but after writing them, they added additional months to my subscription to make up for the trouble. So what I am saying, is to never avoid something like the plague. It may give you a lead and if you close your mind on it, that door will never open. As to the lady who sent in the link, I appreciate any help and thank you for submitting it to us. However, you need to be more careful in the future for those who are offended and let people know that ancestry advertises on your link. That way a choice can be made to visit or not. Hope ----- Original Message ----- From: "ron stone" <blueoak@ix.netcom.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [SC] South Carolina Ships Lists online > Not to toss kerosene on the fire, but here in CA, many public libraries > have computers for the patrons > and ON THESE computers , more and more have access to Ancestry.com. They > say is is very popular. > > Who knows what it costs the library fund? > > So there is a lot more than 14 day free access, though the time is rationed > to one hour per day... tough > for an addict to cut back to ... : ) > ron > ...a downstream son of South Carolina > > At 12:14 AM 7/25/02 EDT, you wrote: > >Bill, > > > > Thanks for the comments. I avoid Ancestry like the plague. I will never > >subscribe to it. I have looked at her site and never found anything of > >value. The latest version brings me back to the same URL every time I try to > >get to the "free" data bases. Her page is covered with links to Ancestry. > > > >Jerry > > > > > >==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > >Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > >Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ > > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > Digest SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com > List SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com > only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > No signature/No nothing! >

Hi Hope, You are right. There are more people who LIKE Ancestry than there are who DON'T like it. Many of the people who don't like it may not realize that it costs tons of money to maintain the servers that THESE email lists are hosted on. Many of the USGENWEB pages are freely hosted on Ancestry servers. The USGENWEB archive project is 100% hosted on Ancestry-owned servers. All of the "freepages.rootsweb.com" sites are FREELY hosted on Ancestry-owned servers. Many of those who don't like Ancestry really don't fathom just how much data is available with their subscription service. I for one could not imagine being a serious researcher without an Ancestry subscription. I wonder how many of us have sent a $10 fee to get some info from a genealogical society or other service only to be told that "nothing could be found". No refund...a lookup was performed and paid for. The fee for Ancestry is well worth it because I can do as many lookups through tons of databases as I want. Yes, they have their technical glitches once in awhile but they get fixed in reasonable time. I can deal with that. Just my opinion. Bill oldgoat@mindspring.com writes: > Just a comment. I don't like the fact that ancestry.com does try to lure > you in, but I have to say I really have used their census information. Also, > I did have some trouble with connecting, but after writing them, they added > additional months to my subscription to make up for the trouble. So what I > am saying, is to never avoid something like the plague. It may give you a > lead and if you close your mind on it, that door will never open. > As to the lady who sent in the link, I appreciate any help and thank you for > submitting it to us. However, you need to be more careful in the future > for those who are offended and let people know that ancestry advertises on > your link. That way a choice can be made to visit or not. > Hope > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ron stone" <blueoak@ix.netcom.com> > To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 1:18 AM > Subject: Re: [SC] South Carolina Ships Lists online > > >> Not to toss kerosene on the fire, but here in CA, many public libraries >> have computers for the patrons >> and ON THESE computers , more and more have access to Ancestry.com. They >> say is is very popular. >> >> Who knows what it costs the library fund? >> >> So there is a lot more than 14 day free access, though the time is > rationed >> to one hour per day... tough >> for an addict to cut back to ... : ) >> ron >> ...a downstream son of South Carolina >> >> At 12:14 AM 7/25/02 EDT, you wrote: >> >Bill, >> > >> > Thanks for the comments. I avoid Ancestry like the plague. I will > never >> >subscribe to it. I have looked at her site and never found anything of >> >value. The latest version brings me back to the same URL every time I > try to >> >get to the "free" data bases. Her page is covered with links to > Ancestry. >> > >> >Jerry >> > >> > >> >==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >> >Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? >> >Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ >> > >> > >> >> >> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >> If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! >> Digest SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com >> List SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com >> only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE >> No signature/No nothing! >> > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Virus warnings are not welcome on this list. > Remember when writing a query, to always put in DATES & LOCATIONS > Bill Cribbs Obituary Central http://www.obitcentral.com Obituary Links Page http://www.obitlinkspage.com GenDirectory http://www.gendirectory.com

On 25 Jul 2002 at 8:00, oldgoat@mindspring.com wrote: > Just a comment. I don't like the fact that ancestry.com does > try to lure you in, but I have to say I really have used their > census information. Also, I did have some trouble with > connecting, but after writing them, they added additional months > to my subscription to make up for the trouble. So what I am > saying, is to never avoid something like the plague. It may > give you a lead and if you close your mind on it, that door will > never open. As to the lady who sent in the link, I appreciate > any help and thank you for submitting it to us. However, you > need to be more careful in the future for those who are offended > and let people know that ancestry advertises on your link. That > way a choice can be made to visit or not. Hi Hope I appreciate your comments (I'm the person who sent the link to my webpages) and agree with you. However, I feel compelled to point out that I have over 500 FREE databases on The Olive Tree Genealogy, and these are freely available to all researchers to use. There's no tricks, no gimmicks - my site is a large one, over 2000 pages, and I think if people take the time to look around they'll soon realize its worth. My goal with Olive Tree Genealogy, which has been on the 'net since 1996, is to help others find their ancestors. That's why I spend my time gather databases to put online for everyone. As well as my own databases, I have what might be called directories. These are links to other sites that I consider of value to researchers. I try to label them all as offsite links, whether the databases are free to search or not (most are free) I also have some links to Ancestry.com - and they are labelled either as Ancestry.com, or pay-to-view, or offsite links. There's no trick, in fact I take pains to tell visitors that they don't have to subscribe, they can get the info for free with the free trials. The fact that some of my links to other sites are not of interest to everyone, should not detract from the main value of my databases that I offer. I think people should visit my site, use the free databases I have, and decide for themselves if they want to use my links to other sites. I was (am still am) really taken aback by the comments of a few of the subscribers on this list, because I feel they did not look at my site and see what I offer. I'm still bewildered by the comments just because I have a link to some FREE trials on Ancestry.com, and some links to some of their databases I think are worthwhile. Does everyone know that Ancestry.com owns Rootsweb which hosts this list (and all Rootsweb lists). That Ancestry.com hosts the USGenWeb sites? And Cyndis list? I think it's worth noting... All I can say is to repeat that my site has over 500 free databases and everyone is welcome to go and check it out. I'm not trying to trick anyone and I'm surprised that anyone would think I am. I'm sorry if subscribers on this list were offended by my post to the list - I thought I'd let those searching S. Carolina know about my new search engine for ships lists (it's the yellow one in the box) and I had no idea that kind of announcement wasn't welcome. I've been on the 'net for so many years that I guess I figured most genealogy circles have heard of me and know my site and what it stands for. I guess I've learned that Olive Tree isn't as well known as I thought ! :-) Anyway for anyone who's interested, check out my site before you criticize it, okay? And if you want to know more about me, (although I;m pretty boring!) go to http://olivetreegenealogy.com/lorine.shtml Lorine **Search Ships Passenger Lists to USA http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Canada http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Australia/New Zealand http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchships_aus.shtml otg@csolve.net

Hi to all, Just getting in on the tail end of this. I began researching on the computer in 1998. Olive Tree Genealogy was well known then. I am getting my list mail sporadically, so I don't know the original question. I just know it is a well-known, highly reputable site. I guess it just amazes me that it would be questioned. Sydney Cardner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorine McGinnis Schulze" <otg@csolve.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 25, 2002 11:51 AM Subject: Re: [SC] South Carolina Ships Lists online > > > On 25 Jul 2002 at 8:00, oldgoat@mindspring.com wrote: > > > Just a comment. I don't like the fact that ancestry.com does > > try to lure you in, but I have to say I really have used their > > census information. Also, I did have some trouble with > > connecting, but after writing them, they added additional months > > to my subscription to make up for the trouble. So what I am > > saying, is to never avoid something like the plague. It may > > give you a lead and if you close your mind on it, that door will > > never open. As to the lady who sent in the link, I appreciate > > any help and thank you for submitting it to us. However, you > > need to be more careful in the future for those who are offended > > and let people know that ancestry advertises on your link. That > > way a choice can be made to visit or not. > > Hi Hope > > I appreciate your comments (I'm the person who sent the link to > my webpages) and agree with you. > > However, I feel compelled to point out that I have over 500 > FREE databases on The Olive Tree Genealogy, and these are > freely available to all researchers to use. There's no tricks, > no gimmicks - my site is a large one, over 2000 pages, and I > think if people take the time to look around they'll soon > realize its worth. > > My goal with Olive Tree Genealogy, which has been on the 'net > since 1996, is to help others find their ancestors. That's why > I spend my time gather databases to put online for everyone. > > As well as my own databases, I have what might be called > directories. These are links to other sites that I consider of > value to researchers. I try to label them all as offsite links, > whether the databases are free to search or not (most are free) > I also have some links to Ancestry.com - and they are labelled > either as Ancestry.com, or pay-to-view, or offsite links. > There's no trick, in fact I take pains to tell visitors that > they don't have to subscribe, they can get the info for free > with the free trials. > > The fact that some of my links to other sites are not of > interest to everyone, should not detract from the main value of > my databases that I offer. > > I think people should visit my site, use the free databases I > have, and decide for themselves if they want to use my links to > other sites. > > I was (am still am) really taken aback by the comments of a few > of the subscribers on this list, because I feel they did not > look at my site and see what I offer. I'm still bewildered by > the comments just because I have a link to some FREE trials on > Ancestry.com, and some links to some of their databases I think > are worthwhile. > > Does everyone know that Ancestry.com owns Rootsweb which hosts > this list (and all Rootsweb lists). That Ancestry.com hosts the > USGenWeb sites? And Cyndis list? I think it's worth noting... > > All I can say is to repeat that my site has over 500 free > databases and everyone is welcome to go and check it out. I'm > not trying to trick anyone and I'm surprised that anyone would > think I am. > > I'm sorry if subscribers on this list were offended by my post > to the list - I thought I'd let those searching S. Carolina > know about my > new search engine for ships lists (it's the yellow one in the > box) and I had no idea that kind of announcement wasn't > welcome. > > I've been on the 'net for so many years that I guess I figured > most genealogy circles have heard of me and know my site and > what it > stands for. I guess I've learned that Olive Tree isn't as well > known as I thought ! :-) > > Anyway for anyone who's interested, check out my site before > you criticize it, okay? And if you want to know more about me, > (although I;m pretty boring!) go to > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/lorine.shtml > > Lorine > > > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to USA > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Canada > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Australia/New Zealand > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchships_aus.shtml > > otg@csolve.net > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > To contact the list maintainer > SC-Genealogy-admin@rootsweb.com > >

Lorine, Hello - I enjoyed your site and did find several of the databases you mentioned. My question is, although I could find many ship' lists for the 1800's, I wondered if you have any for ships that arrived in South Carolina in the mid 1700's? My Schofields arrived on a ship with Rev William Turberville prior to 1752. I think your site looks so professional that it is easy to think it is a commercial site. Thanks for your hard work on the site. Best regards, Gaila Merrington ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lorine McGinnis Schulze" <otg@csolve.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 1:51 AM Subject: Re: [SC] South Carolina Ships Lists online > > > On 25 Jul 2002 at 8:00, oldgoat@mindspring.com wrote: > > > Just a comment. I don't like the fact that ancestry.com does > > try to lure you in, but I have to say I really have used their > > census information. Also, I did have some trouble with > > connecting, but after writing them, they added additional months > > to my subscription to make up for the trouble. So what I am > > saying, is to never avoid something like the plague. It may > > give you a lead and if you close your mind on it, that door will > > never open. As to the lady who sent in the link, I appreciate > > any help and thank you for submitting it to us. However, you > > need to be more careful in the future for those who are offended > > and let people know that ancestry advertises on your link. That > > way a choice can be made to visit or not. > > Hi Hope > > I appreciate your comments (I'm the person who sent the link to > my webpages) and agree with you. > > However, I feel compelled to point out that I have over 500 > FREE databases on The Olive Tree Genealogy, and these are > freely available to all researchers to use. There's no tricks, > no gimmicks - my site is a large one, over 2000 pages, and I > think if people take the time to look around they'll soon > realize its worth. > > My goal with Olive Tree Genealogy, which has been on the 'net > since 1996, is to help others find their ancestors. That's why > I spend my time gather databases to put online for everyone. > > As well as my own databases, I have what might be called > directories. These are links to other sites that I consider of > value to researchers. I try to label them all as offsite links, > whether the databases are free to search or not (most are free) > I also have some links to Ancestry.com - and they are labelled > either as Ancestry.com, or pay-to-view, or offsite links. > There's no trick, in fact I take pains to tell visitors that > they don't have to subscribe, they can get the info for free > with the free trials. > > The fact that some of my links to other sites are not of > interest to everyone, should not detract from the main value of > my databases that I offer. > > I think people should visit my site, use the free databases I > have, and decide for themselves if they want to use my links to > other sites. > > I was (am still am) really taken aback by the comments of a few > of the subscribers on this list, because I feel they did not > look at my site and see what I offer. I'm still bewildered by > the comments just because I have a link to some FREE trials on > Ancestry.com, and some links to some of their databases I think > are worthwhile. > > Does everyone know that Ancestry.com owns Rootsweb which hosts > this list (and all Rootsweb lists). That Ancestry.com hosts the > USGenWeb sites? And Cyndis list? I think it's worth noting... > > All I can say is to repeat that my site has over 500 free > databases and everyone is welcome to go and check it out. I'm > not trying to trick anyone and I'm surprised that anyone would > think I am. > > I'm sorry if subscribers on this list were offended by my post > to the list - I thought I'd let those searching S. Carolina > know about my > new search engine for ships lists (it's the yellow one in the > box) and I had no idea that kind of announcement wasn't > welcome. > > I've been on the 'net for so many years that I guess I figured > most genealogy circles have heard of me and know my site and > what it > stands for. I guess I've learned that Olive Tree isn't as well > known as I thought ! :-) > > Anyway for anyone who's interested, check out my site before > you criticize it, okay? And if you want to know more about me, > (although I;m pretty boring!) go to > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/lorine.shtml > > Lorine > > > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to USA > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_ships.shtml > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Canada > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/search_shipscanada.shtml > > **Search Ships Passenger Lists to Australia/New Zealand > http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/searchships_aus.shtml > > otg@csolve.net > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > To contact the list maintainer > SC-Genealogy-admin@rootsweb.com >