The 12 marker test can be very logical, especially if your goal is to determine whether you are connected to a family which you think you might be connected to because of paper records. It didn't take forever to get my SMGF results. I got them in 10 months. I have yet to find someone who had a 37 marker test done who used that exclusively, without further paper analysis, to break down a brick wall. It's just not good enough. Perhaps a 300 marker test would suffice to provide the desired statistical accuracy. If you want to get a lot of markers for the cheapest price and don't want to wait the long time for the SMGF results, consider DNA Heritage instead of FTDNA. They now offer a 43 marker test for $159.20 or $137.77 if you are part of a surname project. One member of our Baird project just got his results back from them and I incorporated them into my Baird database. No DNA project administrator should be limited to one DNA testing company. Competition is the key if we expect to bring the cost of DNA testing down in order to grow. Bruce Baird Retired Engineer for NASA's Apollo, Space Shuttle, and Space Station Programs www.bairddna.com In a message dated 2/13/2006 11:00:09 PM Central Standard Time, Herb_316@msn.com writes: You need to tell everyone why do 5 DNA 12 marker tests is not good logical. The total cost would be better doing a 37+ marker test. You can then go to these different groups who provide free methods to compare your markers to names that are in their list if you are not certain of your surname. You can then choose and select how many markers you want to compare to. If you don't have enough markers you are wasting your time and money. Also need to tell everyone it may take forever to get a SMGF free test results. So you pick and choose but going for good results in a timely manner with good confidence you have done the right thing demands a 37+ marker test either now or in the future. So why not go for the right thing first off as it is cheaper in the long run from a surname project group. Facts not faced early on in DNA testing cost you not only money but time. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>

what about the female dna test Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Hendricks" <Herb_316@msn.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics > You need to tell everyone why do 5 DNA 12 marker tests is not good logical. > > The total cost would be better doing a 37+ marker test. You can then go to these different groups who provide free methods to compare your markers to names that are in their list if you are not certain of your surname. You can then choose and select how many markers you want to compare to. If you don't have enough markers you are wasting your time and money. > > Also need to tell everyone it may take forever to get a SMGF free test results. > > So you pick and choose but going for good results in a timely manner with good confidence you > have done the right thing demands a 37+ marker test either now or in the future. So why not go for the right thing first off as it is cheaper in the long run from a surname project group. > > Facts not faced early on in DNA testing cost you not only money but time. > > > Herb Hendricks > Retired NASA Physicist > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator > Secretary Hendricks Family Association > Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> > 1210 Long Meadow DR > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > 434 832 7246 > Major/Smith/Hendricks > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bbairdsr@aol.com<mailto:Bbairdsr@aol.com> > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics > > > I have been a co-administrator for the Baird - Beard Project for a year and a > half. > > First of all, the 12 marker test is GREAT for directing you where NOT to > spend your time researching, so I wouldn't write it off. I wasted a lot of years > researching Beard - Baird lines for my brick wall with no luck and now one > simple 12 marker DNA test told me I was wasting my time, because there were no > DNA connections from me to any of them. A friend of mine, whose family has been > researching his line for over a hundred years, paid for about five 12 marker > DNA tests before he found a subject he matched exactly. That was the key to > him concentrating his research efforts on one Baird line, and using tried and > true genealogy research methods, he has now extended his line back two > generations. > > The 37 marker test by FTDNA, 39 marker test by SMGF, or the 43 marker test by > DNA Heritage will not break down that brick wall, even if you exactly match > someone else for all markers. It will narrow the range of probably candidates, > but you still need to do traditional genealogy research. > > As for cost, I preferred to submit a sample to the Sorenson Molecular > Genealogy Foundation <smgf.org> and have them do my DNA testing for 39 markers for > FREE. Yes, I said FREE. It takes a year to a year and a half before they > publish the results and you have to know how to search their database for your > results, but anyone who does genealogy should be able to figure out how to do > that. I've done it for many Bairds and Beards over the last year. > > Bruce Baird > > In a message dated 2/13/2006 6:53:32 PM Central Standard Time, kcks@gorge.net<mailto:kcks@gorge.net> > writes: > Hello All, > > I'm glad this discussion has hit the list...and with a specific > question as to test costs. *S* > > You can do a DNA test...just about anywhere, but walking in the cost is > going to be higher...than with a Surname DNA Project. > So the big recomendation is to sign up with a Surname Project. > > The cost for a DNA test with an established surname project is: > > 12 marker $_99.00........ YES, one dollar less than $100. > > The above is the cheapest...but it will only provide info that dates back > eons into the past. Usually pre-language of any kind.*S* > > 25 marker $169.00 [........about 5-10 generations back] > 37 marker $229 00 [current to about 7 generations back] > > As a Surname DNA Project Coordinator, GRIMES & ROSSER, the two tests... 25 > and 37 are where I like to see targeted. > > IF...you're part of a large line, siblings & cousins, with several males > that would like to do this test, it can be done on a budget. > > 1-2 at the 37 marker level, 1-2 at the 25 marker level and then > ...the balance of the fellows testing can do the 12 marker level. > > IF there's any need to increase from the 12 pt level, it can be done > later...and without any further [i.e., new] DNA samples. > > This set of tests...is for males of a given surname, as that is the "YY" > chromosome...which is what we're trying to follow. > Surnames 'usually' are passed from father-son...with exceptions, the "YY" > chromosome always is. > > There is a test...that ladies can participate in, but that will only follow > the "XX" chromosome, which is passed mother-daughter. > This test is the mitochondrial one and sadly...won't help to prove the line > from a daughter...for any Surname DNA Project. :o( > > The costs aren't cheap...but it's a lot lower than tracing the line that you > believe is yours for too many years, only to discover a piece of paper that > proves conclusively that the line isn't yours. > > For me...I only have one lifetime to spend, so double checking with the DNA > makes very good sense to me. *S* > > Lisa Grimes > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina Resources Available at RootsWeb! > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html<http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html> > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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You need to tell everyone why do 5 DNA 12 marker tests is not good logical. The total cost would be better doing a 37+ marker test. You can then go to these different groups who provide free methods to compare your markers to names that are in their list if you are not certain of your surname. You can then choose and select how many markers you want to compare to. If you don't have enough markers you are wasting your time and money. Also need to tell everyone it may take forever to get a SMGF free test results. So you pick and choose but going for good results in a timely manner with good confidence you have done the right thing demands a 37+ marker test either now or in the future. So why not go for the right thing first off as it is cheaper in the long run from a surname project group. Facts not faced early on in DNA testing cost you not only money but time. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bbairdsr@aol.com<mailto:Bbairdsr@aol.com> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:36 PM Subject: Re: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics I have been a co-administrator for the Baird - Beard Project for a year and a half. First of all, the 12 marker test is GREAT for directing you where NOT to spend your time researching, so I wouldn't write it off. I wasted a lot of years researching Beard - Baird lines for my brick wall with no luck and now one simple 12 marker DNA test told me I was wasting my time, because there were no DNA connections from me to any of them. A friend of mine, whose family has been researching his line for over a hundred years, paid for about five 12 marker DNA tests before he found a subject he matched exactly. That was the key to him concentrating his research efforts on one Baird line, and using tried and true genealogy research methods, he has now extended his line back two generations. The 37 marker test by FTDNA, 39 marker test by SMGF, or the 43 marker test by DNA Heritage will not break down that brick wall, even if you exactly match someone else for all markers. It will narrow the range of probably candidates, but you still need to do traditional genealogy research. As for cost, I preferred to submit a sample to the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation <smgf.org> and have them do my DNA testing for 39 markers for FREE. Yes, I said FREE. It takes a year to a year and a half before they publish the results and you have to know how to search their database for your results, but anyone who does genealogy should be able to figure out how to do that. I've done it for many Bairds and Beards over the last year. Bruce Baird In a message dated 2/13/2006 6:53:32 PM Central Standard Time, kcks@gorge.net<mailto:kcks@gorge.net> writes: Hello All, I'm glad this discussion has hit the list...and with a specific question as to test costs. *S* You can do a DNA test...just about anywhere, but walking in the cost is going to be higher...than with a Surname DNA Project. So the big recomendation is to sign up with a Surname Project. The cost for a DNA test with an established surname project is: 12 marker $_99.00........ YES, one dollar less than $100. The above is the cheapest...but it will only provide info that dates back eons into the past. Usually pre-language of any kind.*S* 25 marker $169.00 [........about 5-10 generations back] 37 marker $229 00 [current to about 7 generations back] As a Surname DNA Project Coordinator, GRIMES & ROSSER, the two tests... 25 and 37 are where I like to see targeted. IF...you're part of a large line, siblings & cousins, with several males that would like to do this test, it can be done on a budget. 1-2 at the 37 marker level, 1-2 at the 25 marker level and then ...the balance of the fellows testing can do the 12 marker level. IF there's any need to increase from the 12 pt level, it can be done later...and without any further [i.e., new] DNA samples. This set of tests...is for males of a given surname, as that is the "YY" chromosome...which is what we're trying to follow. Surnames 'usually' are passed from father-son...with exceptions, the "YY" chromosome always is. There is a test...that ladies can participate in, but that will only follow the "XX" chromosome, which is passed mother-daughter. This test is the mitochondrial one and sadly...won't help to prove the line from a daughter...for any Surname DNA Project. :o( The costs aren't cheap...but it's a lot lower than tracing the line that you believe is yours for too many years, only to discover a piece of paper that proves conclusively that the line isn't yours. For me...I only have one lifetime to spend, so double checking with the DNA makes very good sense to me. *S* Lisa Grimes ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== South Carolina Resources Available at RootsWeb! http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html<http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html> ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx>

In a message dated 2/13/2006 7:53:32 PM Eastern Standard Time, kcks@gorge.net writes: Lisa Grimes ...GRIMES is my husband's line Lisa, Is your husband's Grimes any kin to the Grimes in Davidson/Cheatham Co. Tenn. and/or those who went on to Edwardsville IL? Cheryl Gibbs Binkley Alexandria, VA Gibbs, Brown, Martin, Forrester, Troutt, Binkley, Melton

I have been a co-administrator for the Baird - Beard Project for a year and a half. First of all, the 12 marker test is GREAT for directing you where NOT to spend your time researching, so I wouldn't write it off. I wasted a lot of years researching Beard - Baird lines for my brick wall with no luck and now one simple 12 marker DNA test told me I was wasting my time, because there were no DNA connections from me to any of them. A friend of mine, whose family has been researching his line for over a hundred years, paid for about five 12 marker DNA tests before he found a subject he matched exactly. That was the key to him concentrating his research efforts on one Baird line, and using tried and true genealogy research methods, he has now extended his line back two generations. The 37 marker test by FTDNA, 39 marker test by SMGF, or the 43 marker test by DNA Heritage will not break down that brick wall, even if you exactly match someone else for all markers. It will narrow the range of probably candidates, but you still need to do traditional genealogy research. As for cost, I preferred to submit a sample to the Sorenson Molecular Genealogy Foundation <smgf.org> and have them do my DNA testing for 39 markers for FREE. Yes, I said FREE. It takes a year to a year and a half before they publish the results and you have to know how to search their database for your results, but anyone who does genealogy should be able to figure out how to do that. I've done it for many Bairds and Beards over the last year. Bruce Baird In a message dated 2/13/2006 6:53:32 PM Central Standard Time, kcks@gorge.net writes: Hello All, I'm glad this discussion has hit the list...and with a specific question as to test costs. *S* You can do a DNA test...just about anywhere, but walking in the cost is going to be higher...than with a Surname DNA Project. So the big recomendation is to sign up with a Surname Project. The cost for a DNA test with an established surname project is: 12 marker $_99.00........ YES, one dollar less than $100. The above is the cheapest...but it will only provide info that dates back eons into the past. Usually pre-language of any kind.*S* 25 marker $169.00 [........about 5-10 generations back] 37 marker $229 00 [current to about 7 generations back] As a Surname DNA Project Coordinator, GRIMES & ROSSER, the two tests... 25 and 37 are where I like to see targeted. IF...you're part of a large line, siblings & cousins, with several males that would like to do this test, it can be done on a budget. 1-2 at the 37 marker level, 1-2 at the 25 marker level and then ...the balance of the fellows testing can do the 12 marker level. IF there's any need to increase from the 12 pt level, it can be done later...and without any further [i.e., new] DNA samples. This set of tests...is for males of a given surname, as that is the "YY" chromosome...which is what we're trying to follow. Surnames 'usually' are passed from father-son...with exceptions, the "YY" chromosome always is. There is a test...that ladies can participate in, but that will only follow the "XX" chromosome, which is passed mother-daughter. This test is the mitochondrial one and sadly...won't help to prove the line from a daughter...for any Surname DNA Project. :o( The costs aren't cheap...but it's a lot lower than tracing the line that you believe is yours for too many years, only to discover a piece of paper that proves conclusively that the line isn't yours. For me...I only have one lifetime to spend, so double checking with the DNA makes very good sense to me. *S* Lisa Grimes

Hello All, I'm glad this discussion has hit the list...and with a specific question as to test costs. *S* You can do a DNA test...just about anywhere, but walking in the cost is going to be higher...than with a Surname DNA Project. So the big recomendation is to sign up with a Surname Project. The cost for a DNA test with an established surname project is: 12 marker $_99.00........ YES, one dollar less than $100. The above is the cheapest...but it will only provide info that dates back eons into the past. Usually pre-language of any kind.*S* 25 marker $169.00 [........about 5-10 generations back] 37 marker $229 00 [current to about 7 generations back] As a Surname DNA Project Coordinator, GRIMES & ROSSER, the two tests... 25 and 37 are where I like to see targeted. IF...you're part of a large line, siblings & cousins, with several males that would like to do this test, it can be done on a budget. 1-2 at the 37 marker level, 1-2 at the 25 marker level and then ...the balance of the fellows testing can do the 12 marker level. IF there's any need to increase from the 12 pt level, it can be done later...and without any further [i.e., new] DNA samples. This set of tests...is for males of a given surname, as that is the "YY" chromosome...which is what we're trying to follow. Surnames 'usually' are passed from father-son...with exceptions, the "YY" chromosome always is. There is a test...that ladies can participate in, but that will only follow the "XX" chromosome, which is passed mother-daughter. This test is the mitochondrial one and sadly...won't help to prove the line from a daughter...for any Surname DNA Project. :o( The costs aren't cheap...but it's a lot lower than tracing the line that you believe is yours for too many years, only to discover a piece of paper that proves conclusively that the line isn't yours. For me...I only have one lifetime to spend, so double checking with the DNA makes very good sense to me. *S* Lisa Grimes ...GRIMES is my husband's line ...ROSSER is my mother's paternal line The following list, which was all ready provided, will work. My own two Surname DNA Projects are with Family Tree DNA. *S* ================================= Genealogy and DNA www.genebase.com www.genetrack.com/ancestry www.relativegenetics.com www.familytreedna.com/ http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/DNA/GENEALOGY-DNA.html www.oxfordancestors.com www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm www.genpage.com/genealogyDNA.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 2/10/2006

Beware that a 12 or 25 marker test will not in the long run provide you all you need to know to match to a given surname, especially within a particular group of that surname. Most often 12 marker test show you matching to so many people it is foolish to ask for kinship. This is the philosophy of the Genographic Project and some DNA companies. They claim to show you kin ship in a cheap cost of about $100. Before you go hither skither find a surname project and talk with the Group Administrator for your surname. Most that have been in business over a year will have seen and can witness to you the fallacy of getting a small number of markers test. Joining your surname project also gets you cheaper DNA testing fees. God Bless Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: shuler Burton<mailto:shuler_b@hotmail.com> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:43 PM Subject: RE: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics The test for male descendants runs about $110. Just do a Google search for genealogy and DNA and you'll probably find the sites. genealogy and DNA www.genebase.com<http://www.genebase.com/> www.genetrack.com/ancestry<http://www.genetrack.com/ancestry> www.relativegenetics.com<http://www.relativegenetics.com/> www.familytreedna.com/<http://www.familytreedna.com/> http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/DNA/GENEALOGY-DNA.html<http://listsrootsweb.com/index/other/DNA/GENEALOGY-DNA.html> www.oxfordancestors.com<http://www.oxfordancestors.com/> www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm<http://www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm> www.genpage.com/genealogyDNA.html<http://www.genpage.com/genealogyDNA.html> -----Original Message----- From: Don Wilson [mailto:wilsonsearch@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:34 PM To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics Marleen, You prompt a question: I'm a Sharpton descendant. It appears that there is no written data to link Enoch Sharpton (my 2nd great grandfather) to other Sharpton's of his time (Alexander, his father, Jeptha, etc.). If various members of the Sharpton families had their DNA tested, could this be used to establish a link? What about costs to do individual tests? Is this something affordable? Thanks for your post. I found it interesting and informative. Don Wilson Marietta, GA. -----Original Message----- From: Marleen Van Horne [mailto:msvnhrn@jps.net] Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:05 PM To: SCEDGEFI-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SCEDGEFI-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics Genealogy and Genetics Genetics is the newest genealogical tool and it is the only genealogical tool that provides a definitive answer. The birth, marriage, death records, wills and deeds that we use to find our ancestors all need to be interpreted and verified without prejudice. In genetics, you either have a match, or you do not have a match. If you do not match, there is no biological/genetic relationship. Genetic testing can establish relationships. Once the definitive nature of genetic testing was established by researches at the University of Leicester in the 1980s, it quickly became a tool used by the courts and law enforcement to establish relationship and match criminals to crime scenes. In the first instance, many families immigrating to Britain were forced by circumstances beyond their control to leave children behind in the care other family members. When they were able to send for the children, the British immigration courts were unwilling to accept these left behind children as natural born members of the immigrant families. Genetic testing was used to prove the family relationship and the immigration courts no longer had reason deny admission of the children to Britain. In the second instance, a young girl was murdered and raped in a community near Leicester. The police investigating the crime had exhausted all their resources. One of the investigators had read about the research being done at the university. With the help of the researchers, over 1,000 dna samples were taken from men in the community---no match. It was later determined that one of the men who was supposed to be tested, had had a mate provide the sample. When an actual sample was taken from the man on the list, his dna matched the dna left by the murderer on the girls body. He was subsequently convicted of the crime. We now hear almost daily about the use of dna testing to match criminals to crime scenes. We are also hearing about individuals being released from prison and for that matter from death row, having been proved innocent of the crimes for which they were convicted. We also heard recently of a man in Virginia who was executed some years ago, claiming to be innocent. Recent dna testing showed that he was in fact the murderer. By this time, you will have noticed that, in dna testing, you have to have something to compare to. In genealogy, the dna of two individuals, who have established by paper documentation, descent from a common ancestor is compared. The dna of the markers on the Y chromosome of descendants in the male line is what is usually tested. This test provides definitive proof of continuity of surname. For example, if you have two males who claim descent from a common ancestor and the documentary proof supports the claim, Y-dna testing will either confirm the relationship, or refute it. If the test confirms the Y-dna of the two men matches, they definitely have a common male ancestor. If it does not match, within a certain percentage, there is no biological/genetic match. I state the last sentence that way, because there are several possibilities, a difference of a few percentage points can be accounted for by mutation, or in cases where no biological/genetic relationship exists, the supporting documentation is faulty, or the line of descent has been interrupted by hanky-panky. Genetic testing for proof of surname, or male line of descent becomes more certain when the maximum number of markers are compared, and more males agree to be tested. In women, mt-dna can also but used to determine parentage and ancestral relationships, but it is more difficult, because the surname changes with each generation. A woman passes her mt-dna to all her children, male and female, but only the daughters pass on their mt-dna to their children. Public Television is airing a program this month on how the ancestry of 8 prominent African Americans was traced using conventional research and genetic testing. If you have an opportunity to see it, I highly recommend it. The first February issue of Newsweek has a cover story on the use of genetic testing in genealogy. The December 2005 issue of the National Genealogical Society Quarterly is devoted to the subject of Genealogy and Genetics. The reason for this long essay is that I want to convey to you that genetic testing for genealogical purposes is a legitimate tool. It is not a scam. It provides definitive information on our ancestor. Genetic testing can prove our researched pedigrees, and it can disprove them. My next message to this list will be analysis of the genetic testing results recently completed by four descendants of the Oden family that lived in Edgefield County, South Carolina, between 1770 and 1820, please stay tuned for my report. If something is this message is not clear, please ask questions. 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The test for male descendants runs about $110. Just do a Google search for genealogy and DNA and you'll probably find the sites. genealogy and DNA www.genebase.com www.genetrack.com/ancestry www.relativegenetics.com www.familytreedna.com/ http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/other/DNA/GENEALOGY-DNA.html www.oxfordancestors.com www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm www.genpage.com/genealogyDNA.html -----Original Message----- From: Don Wilson [mailto:wilsonsearch@comcast.net] Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:34 PM To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics Marleen, You prompt a question: I'm a Sharpton descendant. It appears that there is no written data to link Enoch Sharpton (my 2nd great grandfather) to other Sharpton's of his time (Alexander, his father, Jeptha, etc.). If various members of the Sharpton families had their DNA tested, could this be used to establish a link? What about costs to do individual tests? Is this something affordable? Thanks for your post. I found it interesting and informative. Don Wilson Marietta, GA. -----Original Message----- From: Marleen Van Horne [mailto:msvnhrn@jps.net] Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:05 PM To: SCEDGEFI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics Genealogy and Genetics Genetics is the newest genealogical tool and it is the only genealogical tool that provides a definitive answer. The birth, marriage, death records, wills and deeds that we use to find our ancestors all need to be interpreted and verified without prejudice. In genetics, you either have a match, or you do not have a match. If you do not match, there is no biological/genetic relationship. Genetic testing can establish relationships. Once the definitive nature of genetic testing was established by researches at the University of Leicester in the 1980s, it quickly became a tool used by the courts and law enforcement to establish relationship and match criminals to crime scenes. In the first instance, many families immigrating to Britain were forced by circumstances beyond their control to leave children behind in the care other family members. When they were able to send for the children, the British immigration courts were unwilling to accept these left behind children as natural born members of the immigrant families. Genetic testing was used to prove the family relationship and the immigration courts no longer had reason deny admission of the children to Britain. In the second instance, a young girl was murdered and raped in a community near Leicester. The police investigating the crime had exhausted all their resources. One of the investigators had read about the research being done at the university. With the help of the researchers, over 1,000 dna samples were taken from men in the community---no match. It was later determined that one of the men who was supposed to be tested, had had a mate provide the sample. When an actual sample was taken from the man on the list, his dna matched the dna left by the murderer on the girls body. He was subsequently convicted of the crime. We now hear almost daily about the use of dna testing to match criminals to crime scenes. We are also hearing about individuals being released from prison and for that matter from death row, having been proved innocent of the crimes for which they were convicted. We also heard recently of a man in Virginia who was executed some years ago, claiming to be innocent. Recent dna testing showed that he was in fact the murderer. By this time, you will have noticed that, in dna testing, you have to have something to compare to. In genealogy, the dna of two individuals, who have established by paper documentation, descent from a common ancestor is compared. The dna of the markers on the Y chromosome of descendants in the male line is what is usually tested. This test provides definitive proof of continuity of surname. For example, if you have two males who claim descent from a common ancestor and the documentary proof supports the claim, Y-dna testing will either confirm the relationship, or refute it. If the test confirms the Y-dna of the two men matches, they definitely have a common male ancestor. If it does not match, within a certain percentage, there is no biological/genetic match. I state the last sentence that way, because there are several possibilities, a difference of a few percentage points can be accounted for by mutation, or in cases where no biological/genetic relationship exists, the supporting documentation is faulty, or the line of descent has been interrupted by hanky-panky. Genetic testing for proof of surname, or male line of descent becomes more certain when the maximum number of markers are compared, and more males agree to be tested. In women, mt-dna can also but used to determine parentage and ancestral relationships, but it is more difficult, because the surname changes with each generation. A woman passes her mt-dna to all her children, male and female, but only the daughters pass on their mt-dna to their children. Public Television is airing a program this month on how the ancestry of 8 prominent African Americans was traced using conventional research and genetic testing. If you have an opportunity to see it, I highly recommend it. The first February issue of Newsweek has a cover story on the use of genetic testing in genealogy. The December 2005 issue of the National Genealogical Society Quarterly is devoted to the subject of Genealogy and Genetics. The reason for this long essay is that I want to convey to you that genetic testing for genealogical purposes is a legitimate tool. It is not a scam. It provides definitive information on our ancestor. Genetic testing can prove our researched pedigrees, and it can disprove them. My next message to this list will be analysis of the genetic testing results recently completed by four descendants of the Oden family that lived in Edgefield County, South Carolina, between 1770 and 1820, please stay tuned for my report. If something is this message is not clear, please ask questions. Marleen Van Horne descendant of Alexander Oden Edgefield County List Manager ==== SCEDGEFI Mailing List ==== Visit The Ancestors of Nancy Oden at: http://home.jps.net/~msvnhrn/White/oden.html ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! Digest SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com List SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE No signature/No nothing! ============================== Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for ancestors, but entire generations. 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Marleen, You prompt a question: I'm a Sharpton descendant. It appears that there is no written data to link Enoch Sharpton (my 2nd great grandfather) to other Sharpton's of his time (Alexander, his father, Jeptha, etc.). If various members of the Sharpton families had their DNA tested, could this be used to establish a link? What about costs to do individual tests? Is this something affordable? Thanks for your post. I found it interesting and informative. Don Wilson Marietta, GA. -----Original Message----- From: Marleen Van Horne [mailto:msvnhrn@jps.net] Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 10:05 PM To: SCEDGEFI-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics Genealogy and Genetics Genetics is the newest genealogical tool and it is the only genealogical tool that provides a definitive answer. The birth, marriage, death records, wills and deeds that we use to find our ancestors all need to be interpreted and verified without prejudice. In genetics, you either have a match, or you do not have a match. If you do not match, there is no biological/genetic relationship. Genetic testing can establish relationships. Once the definitive nature of genetic testing was established by researches at the University of Leicester in the 1980s, it quickly became a tool used by the courts and law enforcement to establish relationship and match criminals to crime scenes. In the first instance, many families immigrating to Britain were forced by circumstances beyond their control to leave children behind in the care other family members. When they were able to send for the children, the British immigration courts were unwilling to accept these left behind children as natural born members of the immigrant families. Genetic testing was used to prove the family relationship and the immigration courts no longer had reason deny admission of the children to Britain. In the second instance, a young girl was murdered and raped in a community near Leicester. The police investigating the crime had exhausted all their resources. One of the investigators had read about the research being done at the university. With the help of the researchers, over 1,000 dna samples were taken from men in the community---no match. It was later determined that one of the men who was supposed to be tested, had had a mate provide the sample. When an actual sample was taken from the man on the list, his dna matched the dna left by the murderer on the girls body. He was subsequently convicted of the crime. We now hear almost daily about the use of dna testing to match criminals to crime scenes. We are also hearing about individuals being released from prison and for that matter from death row, having been proved innocent of the crimes for which they were convicted. We also heard recently of a man in Virginia who was executed some years ago, claiming to be innocent. Recent dna testing showed that he was in fact the murderer. By this time, you will have noticed that, in dna testing, you have to have something to compare to. In genealogy, the dna of two individuals, who have established by paper documentation, descent from a common ancestor is compared. The dna of the markers on the Y chromosome of descendants in the male line is what is usually tested. This test provides definitive proof of continuity of surname. For example, if you have two males who claim descent from a common ancestor and the documentary proof supports the claim, Y-dna testing will either confirm the relationship, or refute it. If the test confirms the Y-dna of the two men matches, they definitely have a common male ancestor. If it does not match, within a certain percentage, there is no biological/genetic match. I state the last sentence that way, because there are several possibilities, a difference of a few percentage points can be accounted for by mutation, or in cases where no biological/genetic relationship exists, the supporting documentation is faulty, or the line of descent has been interrupted by hanky-panky. Genetic testing for proof of surname, or male line of descent becomes more certain when the maximum number of markers are compared, and more males agree to be tested. In women, mt-dna can also but used to determine parentage and ancestral relationships, but it is more difficult, because the surname changes with each generation. A woman passes her mt-dna to all her children, male and female, but only the daughters pass on their mt-dna to their children. Public Television is airing a program this month on how the ancestry of 8 prominent African Americans was traced using conventional research and genetic testing. If you have an opportunity to see it, I highly recommend it. The first February issue of Newsweek has a cover story on the use of genetic testing in genealogy. The December 2005 issue of the National Genealogical Society Quarterly is devoted to the subject of Genealogy and Genetics. The reason for this long essay is that I want to convey to you that genetic testing for genealogical purposes is a legitimate tool. It is not a scam. It provides definitive information on our ancestor. Genetic testing can prove our researched pedigrees, and it can disprove them. My next message to this list will be analysis of the genetic testing results recently completed by four descendants of the Oden family that lived in Edgefield County, South Carolina, between 1770 and 1820, please stay tuned for my report. If something is this message is not clear, please ask questions. Marleen Van Horne descendant of Alexander Oden Edgefield County List Manager ==== SCEDGEFI Mailing List ==== Visit The Ancestors of Nancy Oden at: http://home.jps.net/~msvnhrn/White/oden.html

Margie - i don't have any suggestions, but when you find out what happened to the boy, would you let us know? leigh

Margie, You might try the Augusta Chronicle, they have an index...let me know if you're not in the area. _http://www.ecgrl.public.lib.ga.us/catalog.htm_ (http://www.ecgrl.public.lib.ga.us/catalog.htm) Donna

I need help in locating an article about Johnie Taylor 10 year old boy being abducted from his mother's home, Mrs. William Taylor in Aiken, SC in 1880. I am trying to find out if he was ever found, when was he found and where was he found. Any an all help is greatly appreciated. Margie

The best you could do for birth certificates from SC would be from other records; will, etc. SC didn't require birth certificates until very late. From The Handy Book of Genealogist, it states: "Birth and death records from 1915 to the present are in the Office of Vital Records, 2600 Bull Street, Columbia, SC 29201. However, there are some compiled records, but I believe they too are taken from other sources. Sorry, many of us have wanted birth records of our ancestors from SC but to no avail. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "lorenzo kibler" <justcoolinout@yahoo.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 5:22 AM Subject: Re: [SC] Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #20 > thanks do you know if i will be able to get a birth certificate online for > someone born during that time period > > Audrey Pool <aep@madnet.net> wrote: I don't find a Melvin KIBLER in SC, > but there are two names in Newberry > District, SC: Michael and John/Johannes KEBLER. Same people, different > spellings. Audrey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "lorenzo kibler" > To: > Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:15 PM > Subject: [SC] Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #20 > > >> Thank you tremendously !july 29th 1865 in columbia s carolina ,Melvin >> Kibler was born to a dad that was already dead for being a runnaway slave >> ,i have run into a brick wall trying to find out anything on melvin,i >> really would appreciate any an all help as to whom his ancestors were >> ,ie;mother father sisters,brothers cousins,nieces,nephews i find all >> kibler every where else i go are not black,other than in s carolina,where >> they claim no knowledge of him,i tracked him into mississippi,into >> arkansas w/census reports an they keep saying he was bornin s carolina >> ,his grandson my grandfather says his father told him he was born in >> columbia but i cannot find him on any census in s carolina,help anyone >> please >> >> SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> SC-Genealogy-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 20 >> >> Today's Topics: >> #1 Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #19 [ >> ] >> #2 Re: Another Nathaniel THOMPSON-Wak ["Audrey Pool" ] >> #3 RE: [SC] The Bobos ["Wanda Davis" ] >> #4 Columbia, Richland County [Monya Havekost #5 Re: [SC] sorry - ["Diane >> S" #6 Re: [SC] The Bobos ["Audrey Pool" ] >> #7 RE: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya ["Joe & Laura Schmidt" >> Administrivia: >> To unsubscribe from SC-Genealogy-D, send a message to >> >> SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com >> >> that contains in the body of the message the command >> >> unsubscribe >> >> and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >> requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. >> >> ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 15:11:07 -0500 >> From: > >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #19 >> >>> >>> From: SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com >>> Date: 2006/02/08 Wed PM 03:00:18 EST >>> To: SC-Genealogy-D@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #19 >>> >> >> To the person asking for the county for Columbia, SC...... >> it is in Richland county....tho some portions may fall into Lexington >> county..but the major portion is in Richland county.... >> >> As for finding Grant's.... >> some of them married into the Gibson family in Greenville,SC >> too......might look in Greenville county, wouldn't hurt to check >> there.... >>> >> >> ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 12:22:59 -0800 >> From: "Audrey Pool" >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: Another Nathaniel THOMPSON-Wake Co, NC >> >> Source: Abstract of Record of Wills, Inventories, Settlements of Estates, >> 1771-1802 Wake Co, NC - Frances Holloway Wynne >> >> >> >> THOMPSON, Samuel Will R. May 1801 p 218 >> >> In the name of God amen. Wife (unnamed): all estate for widowhood. Son >> *NATH THOMPSON: 200 a. at the E end of land I now live on. Son Sam'l >> THOMPSON 200 a. with plantation already given. Daughter Ann THOMPSON: >> plantation I now live on so long as she lives single, then to son John >> THOMPSON. Divide residue between Mary Ann Lucretia and Elizabeth so as >> not >> to sell Negroes nor anything else. (Will undated, unsigned, unwitnessed >> with no executors named). >> >> Note: There were no commas between Mary Ann Lucretia. (aep) >> >> ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 17:00:39 -0600 >> From: "Wanda Davis" >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: RE: [SC] The Bobos >> >> A line of BOBO's from Spartanburg Co. SC went to Greene Co. Arkansas. >> Some married into my BOWLIN line also from Spartanburg Co. SC to Walker >> Co. >> Georgia in the 1850 census & in 1857 to Greene Co. Arkansas. >> >> Wanda Bowlin Davis - Kerrville TX - wbdavis@ktc.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: GD Wells [mailto:gdwells@bellsouth.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:16 PM >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SC] The Bobos >> >> Have you looked in Tennessee? The Bobos are very active in the Walking >> Horse Celebration in Shelbyville, Bedford County, TN >> GD Wells >> >> This msg sent from gdwells@bellsouth.net >> >> >> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >> Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina >> Genealogy >> research >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:52:13 -0500 >> From: Monya Havekost >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Columbia, Richland County >> >> Just a very small part of northwest Columbia is in Lexington County. >> It is an area that was annexed into the city for tax reasons a few >> years ago. >> >> Monya >> Columbia, SC >> >> >> Fayette Co. AL list manager >> ASTON surname list manager >> MUSGROVE surname list manager >> THOMPSON surname list manager >> Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, >> FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDILL, >> McDONALD, MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, PEDEN, SOUTH, STANFORD, >> THOMPSON, WEAVER and WEBSTER >> On Feb 7, 2006, at 9:11 PM, Roger and Joy Atkinson wrote: >> >>> Rootsweb has a great search website for finding out which county a >>> particular town is in http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi >>> >>> Columbia actually is located in 2 counties Lexington and Richland. I >>> guess it grew across the county line. >>> >>> Joy >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: lorenzo kibler >>> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:02 PM >>> Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya >>> >>> >>> anyone know what county columbia is in ,my great grandfather was >>> born in columbia s,carolina,an i am having great trouble trying to >>> find him n the census >>> >>> Eddie Cox wrote: Monya, >>> Are your Grant's from the upstate of SC? Laurens, or Greenwood maybe? >>> Eddie >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Monya Havekost" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:11 AM >>> Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO >>> >>> >>>> I'm searching for my Nathan/Nathaniel THOMPSON, b. about 1775 in NC. >>>> By >>>> 1794 he married Elizabeth WEAVER in Jefferson Co. TN. They made their >>>> home in Hawkins Co TN until moving to Fayette/Marion Co. 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My husband's father was born in Sicily >> and his mother in Riccone/Rimini - his siblings were born in Brooklyn, >> and >> the family has mostly migrated to N.J. and Florida - those remaining. >> If you look at the Ellis Island pages, the name Sanfilippo was as common >> as Wilson, Davis, etc. in America - I was going to add a page of all the >> Sanfilippo names in a family book I did for my father-in-law a few years >> ago but there were over 50 pages!! >> Sanfilippo means St. Philip in Italian... >> Diane >> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:25 AM >> Subject: RE: [SC] sorry - >> >> >> Diane: >> By any chance are you related to the Sanfilippos of Pennsylvania? >> Thanks, >> Dale Lynn Kibler Iwancio >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Diane S [mailto:dsanfilippo303@adelphia.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:17 PM >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SC] sorry - >> >> Hi - sorry about the bounce - had a fried cable modem... all's well >> again. >> Please reinstate! >> Diane S Sanfilippo >> >> >> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >> South Carolina GenForum Page >> http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/ >> >> ============================== >> New! 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Arkansas. >>> >>> Wanda Bowlin Davis - Kerrville TX - wbdavis@ktc.com >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: GD Wells [mailto:gdwells@bellsouth.net] >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:16 PM >>> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: [SC] The Bobos >>> >>> Have you looked in Tennessee? The Bobos are very active in the Walking >>> Horse Celebration in Shelbyville, Bedford County, TN >>> GD Wells >>> >>> This msg sent from gdwells@bellsouth.net >>> >>> >>> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >>> Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina >>> Genealogy >>> research >>> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >>> To contact the list maintainer >>> SC-Genealogy-admin@rootsweb.com >>> >>> ============================== >>> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >>> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >>> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >>> >>> >> >> ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:15:33 -0800 >> From: "Joe & Laura Schmidt" >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: RE: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Weatherford, Woody" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:35 AM >> Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya >> >> >>>I think that Columbia is in Lexington co >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: lorenzo kibler [mailto:justcoolinout@yahoo.com] >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:03 PM >>> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >>> Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya >>> >>> anyone know what county columbia is in ,my great grandfather was born in >>> columbia s,carolina,an i am having great trouble trying to find him n >>> the census >>> >>> Eddie Cox wrote: Monya, >>> Are your Grant's from the upstate of SC? Laurens, or Greenwood maybe? >>> Eddie >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Monya Havekost" >>> To: >>> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:11 AM >>> Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO >>> >>> >>>> I'm searching for my Nathan/Nathaniel THOMPSON, b. about 1775 in NC. >>> By >>>> 1794 he married Elizabeth WEAVER in Jefferson Co. TN. They made their >>>> home in Hawkins Co TN until moving to Fayette/Marion Co. AL by 1819. >>>> >>>> Would love to know from which county Nathan descended. >>>> >>>> Monya >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >>> To UNSUBSCRIBE >>> Write SC-Genealogy-L-Request@RootsWeb.com >>> Plain Text with just the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of letter >>> Change the "L" to "D" if you have Digest Mode >>> >>> ============================== >>> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >>> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > [romance addicts /move on] [sex addicts /come on] [relationship addicts > /hang on] {and all are progressive and fatal} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > To contact the list maintainer > SC-Genealogy-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Hello Has anyone ever seen a source for the Rev Turbeville bringing settlers from either England or North Carolina to South Carolina circa 1752? Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy King" <joyk@sc.rr.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [SC] Rev. William Martin > Jean Stephenson, Scotch-Irish Migration To South Carolina, 1772 (Rev. > William Martin And His Five Shiploads Of Settlers). My copy is a 1999 > reprint from Clearfield Company. > http://www.genealogical.com/item_detail.asp?afid=&ID=9428 >

I should have known to ask you....you never miss a beat....thanks, my friend! Joyce G. Reece ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joy King" <joyk@sc.rr.com>

thanks do you know if i will be able to get a birth certificate online for someone born during that time period Audrey Pool <aep@madnet.net> wrote: I don't find a Melvin KIBLER in SC, but there are two names in Newberry District, SC: Michael and John/Johannes KEBLER. Same people, different spellings. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "lorenzo kibler" To: Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: [SC] Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #20 > Thank you tremendously !july 29th 1865 in columbia s carolina ,Melvin > Kibler was born to a dad that was already dead for being a runnaway slave > ,i have run into a brick wall trying to find out anything on melvin,i > really would appreciate any an all help as to whom his ancestors were > ,ie;mother father sisters,brothers cousins,nieces,nephews i find all > kibler every where else i go are not black,other than in s carolina,where > they claim no knowledge of him,i tracked him into mississippi,into > arkansas w/census reports an they keep saying he was bornin s carolina > ,his grandson my grandfather says his father told him he was born in > columbia but i cannot find him on any census in s carolina,help anyone > please > > SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > SC-Genealogy-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 20 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #19 [ > ] > #2 Re: Another Nathaniel THOMPSON-Wak ["Audrey Pool" ] > #3 RE: [SC] The Bobos ["Wanda Davis" ] > #4 Columbia, Richland County [Monya Havekost #5 Re: [SC] sorry - ["Diane > S" #6 Re: [SC] The Bobos ["Audrey Pool" ] > #7 RE: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya ["Joe & Laura Schmidt" > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from SC-Genealogy-D, send a message to > > SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 15:11:07 -0500 > From: > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #19 > >> >> From: SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com >> Date: 2006/02/08 Wed PM 03:00:18 EST >> To: SC-Genealogy-D@rootsweb.com >> Subject: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #19 >> > > To the person asking for the county for Columbia, SC...... > it is in Richland county....tho some portions may fall into Lexington > county..but the major portion is in Richland county.... > > As for finding Grant's.... > some of them married into the Gibson family in Greenville,SC > too......might look in Greenville county, wouldn't hurt to check there.... >> > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 12:22:59 -0800 > From: "Audrey Pool" > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Another Nathaniel THOMPSON-Wake Co, NC > > Source: Abstract of Record of Wills, Inventories, Settlements of Estates, > 1771-1802 Wake Co, NC - Frances Holloway Wynne > > > > THOMPSON, Samuel Will R. May 1801 p 218 > > In the name of God amen. Wife (unnamed): all estate for widowhood. Son > *NATH THOMPSON: 200 a. at the E end of land I now live on. Son Sam'l > THOMPSON 200 a. with plantation already given. Daughter Ann THOMPSON: > plantation I now live on so long as she lives single, then to son John > THOMPSON. Divide residue between Mary Ann Lucretia and Elizabeth so as not > to sell Negroes nor anything else. (Will undated, unsigned, unwitnessed > with no executors named). > > Note: There were no commas between Mary Ann Lucretia. (aep) > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 17:00:39 -0600 > From: "Wanda Davis" > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [SC] The Bobos > > A line of BOBO's from Spartanburg Co. SC went to Greene Co. Arkansas. > Some married into my BOWLIN line also from Spartanburg Co. SC to Walker > Co. > Georgia in the 1850 census & in 1857 to Greene Co. Arkansas. > > Wanda Bowlin Davis - Kerrville TX - wbdavis@ktc.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: GD Wells [mailto:gdwells@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:16 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SC] The Bobos > > Have you looked in Tennessee? The Bobos are very active in the Walking > Horse Celebration in Shelbyville, Bedford County, TN > GD Wells > > This msg sent from gdwells@bellsouth.net > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy > research > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:52:13 -0500 > From: Monya Havekost > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Columbia, Richland County > > Just a very small part of northwest Columbia is in Lexington County. > It is an area that was annexed into the city for tax reasons a few > years ago. > > Monya > Columbia, SC > > > Fayette Co. AL list manager > ASTON surname list manager > MUSGROVE surname list manager > THOMPSON surname list manager > Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, > FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDILL, > McDONALD, MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, PEDEN, SOUTH, STANFORD, > THOMPSON, WEAVER and WEBSTER > On Feb 7, 2006, at 9:11 PM, Roger and Joy Atkinson wrote: > >> Rootsweb has a great search website for finding out which county a >> particular town is in http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi >> >> Columbia actually is located in 2 counties Lexington and Richland. I >> guess it grew across the county line. >> >> Joy >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: lorenzo kibler >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya >> >> >> anyone know what county columbia is in ,my great grandfather was >> born in columbia s,carolina,an i am having great trouble trying to >> find him n the census >> >> Eddie Cox wrote: Monya, >> Are your Grant's from the upstate of SC? Laurens, or Greenwood maybe? >> Eddie >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Monya Havekost" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:11 AM >> Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO >> >> >>> I'm searching for my Nathan/Nathaniel THOMPSON, b. about 1775 in NC. >>> By >>> 1794 he married Elizabeth WEAVER in Jefferson Co. TN. They made their >>> home in Hawkins Co TN until moving to Fayette/Marion Co. 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My husband's father was born in Sicily > and his mother in Riccone/Rimini - his siblings were born in Brooklyn, and > the family has mostly migrated to N.J. and Florida - those remaining. > If you look at the Ellis Island pages, the name Sanfilippo was as common > as Wilson, Davis, etc. in America - I was going to add a page of all the > Sanfilippo names in a family book I did for my father-in-law a few years > ago but there were over 50 pages!! > Sanfilippo means St. Philip in Italian... > Diane > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:25 AM > Subject: RE: [SC] sorry - > > > Diane: > By any chance are you related to the Sanfilippos of Pennsylvania? > Thanks, > Dale Lynn Kibler Iwancio > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diane S [mailto:dsanfilippo303@adelphia.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:17 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SC] sorry - > > Hi - sorry about the bounce - had a fried cable modem... all's well again. > Please reinstate! > Diane S Sanfilippo > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina GenForum Page > http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/ > > ============================== > New! 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thanks SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: SC-Genealogy-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 24 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [SC] Kibler ["Joy King" ] #2 Re: [SC] Kibler [DavineR@aol.com] #3 SC Will Books [BASIL WOLF #4 Re: [SC] Kibler ["Joy King" ] #5 Ancestry.com [DavineR@aol.com] #6 Re: [SC] Kibler [Ruthsperch@aol.com] #7 Re: [SC] Ancestry.com [Ruthsperch@aol.com] #8 Re: [SC] Ancestry.com [DavineR@aol.com] #9 Re: [SC] Kibler [KGHALES@aol.com] #10 Re: [SC] Ancestry.com [Ruthsperch@aol.com] #11 Re: [SC] Ancestry.com ["Margie King" ] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from SC-Genealogy-D, send a message to SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:00:50 -0500 From: "Joy King" <joyk@sc.rr.com> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Kibler You should take advantage of Ancestry.com's *free* research this month (see below) to check the 1870 census for SC Kibler. There isn't a Melvin, but a Pink (possible nickname?) Kibler b. 1865 is there and may be your ancestor. Also look at the 1860 SC Slave Schedules to see the locations and owners. Good luck, Joy For African Americans, tracking down ancestors can present a unique set of challenges--few other groups face as many obstacles when it comes to family history research. Often, a lack of credible documentation can make the journey both difficult and time-consuming. Fortunately, there is a vast collection of data available online. In celebration of Black History Month, Ancestry.com, which hosts the largest online collection of family history records, has launched an all new African American Research Center at: http://www.ancestry.com/aahistory (NOTE: The free databases must be accessed through this page and users must log in or complete the free registration.) Throughout the month of February 2006, Ancestry.com will be offering free access to this vast collection of historical records detailing the lives of hundreds of thousands of African Americans. A wealth of personal information can be obtained in the documents available at Ancestry.com and the African American Research Center (http://www.ancestry.com/aahistory). Some of the records available include: --- Freedman's Bank Records, 1865-1874 Shortly after the Civil War in March 1865, several New York business men started the Freedman's Savings and Trust Company, or Freedman's Bank--a savings bank where soldiers and former slaves could invest their money. 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Each record provides the soldier's name, company, unit, the individual's rank when inducted and rank when discharged. --- Afro-Louisiana History and Genealogy, 1718-1820 This database includes detailed information on more than 100,000 slaves who arrived in Louisiana between 1718 and 1820. The records include rich personal details such as name, gender, race, birthplace, family names and relationships, skill or trade, personality traits and information about how the person was freed. --- Slave Narratives A collection of one-on-one interviews with more than 3,500 former slaves collected over a ten-year period from 1929 to 1939. The interviews, written exactly as they were dictated to preserve the spoken dialect of the former slave, are very rich in family history data and often identify ages, places of residence and birth, and names of spouses, children, siblings, and parents. --- WWI Draft Registration Cards In 1917 and 1918, approximately 24 million men, close to 25% of the total population of the United States, completed a World War I draft registration card. The cards contain more than just names and dates; they contain significant genealogical information such as birthplace, citizenship status, and information on the individual's nearest relative. If a person was of African descent, the bottom left corner was cut off of the registration card to make that distinction. --- Selected Family and Local Histories This collection is a compilation of journals, memoirs, and other first-hand personal narratives that provide a poignant picture of daily life, from everyday challenges to extreme hardships. Free databases are: --The First African Baptist Church of North America --The Black Presence in the Era of the American Revolution, 1770-1800 --Blacks in the State of Oregon, 1788-1971 --Slave Life in Georgia: A narrative of the life, sufferings, and escape of John Brown, a fugitive slave --Slavery Petitions and Papers REPRINT POLICY: We encourage the circulation of the "Ancestry Daily News" via non-profit newsletters and lists providing that you credit the author, include any copyright information (Copyright 1998-2005, MyFamily.com, Inc. and its subsidiaries.), and cite the "Ancestry Daily News" (http://www.ancestry.com/dailynews ) as the source, so that others can learn about our free newsletter as well. ----- Original Message ----- From: "lorenzo kibler" To: Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: [SC] Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #20 Thank you tremendously !july 29th 1865 in columbia s carolina ,Melvin Kibler was born to a dad that was already dead for being a runnaway slave ,i have run into a brick wall trying to find out anything on melvin,i really would appreciate any an all help as to whom his ancestors were ,ie;mother father sisters,brothers cousins,nieces,nephews i find all kibler every where else i go are not black,other than in s carolina,where they claim no knowledge of him,i tracked him into mississippi,into arkansas w/census reports an they keep saying he was bornin s carolina ,his grandson my grandfather says his father told him he was born in columbia but i cannot find him on any census in s carolina,help anyone please ______________________________Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 17:42:32 EST From: DavineR@aol.com To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Kibler In a message dated 2/10/2006 5:03:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, joyk@sc.rr.com writes: http://www.ancestry.com/aahistory I am not getting any of the links to work for free. They want me to sign up for a free 14 day trial. Am I doing something wrong? Davine ______________________________Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:23:52 +0000 (GMT) From: BASIL WOLF <aberfoxes@btinternet.com> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: SC Will Books The Rootsweb SC archive for 2002 includes an abstract of a will (reproduced below). I am researching the family of the uncle, John Jones of Rhydyfen mentioned therein. Please could someone tell me how I might acquire a full transcript of the will of Evan Jones of Charles Town? Many thanks Basil Will Book SS, 1771-1774: South Carolina "JONES, Evan. Charles Town, merchant. Sister: Margaret JONES living with Mr. DAVIES in Bow St, Bloomsbury Sq., London, all real estate in Merionethshire, North Wales, residue of estate. Uncle: John JONES, now residing on my land of Rhydyfen near town of Bala in Merionethshire, and his children, under age. Aunts: sisters (not named) of my father Robert JONES, deceased, and their children. Mentions: Mr Richard DOWNES of said town, merchant; Theodore GAILLARD, Jr, merchant of said town; David BATY, dealer in wine of said town. Exors: Mr. Richard DOWNES; Mr. Theodore GAILLARD, Jr; sister Margaret JONES. Wit: Joseph CREIGHTON, Abraham MICHAU, Junr., Chris ROGERS. D: 11 June 1772. P: 12 Nov 1773. R: nd., p. 468" http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/textindices/S/SC-Genealogy+2002+292587739+MESSAGE-BODY ______________________________Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 18:22:27 -0500 From: "Joy King" <joyk@sc.rr.com> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Kibler Davine, When you click on the site through this link: http://www.ancestry.com/aahistory You should be able to then click on any of the (blue) links to the data. Is that not working for you? Will someone else (that doesn't have an Ancestry.com subscription) try it? Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: DavineR@aol.com To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [SC] Kibler In a message dated 2/10/2006 5:03:24 PM Eastern Standard Time, joyk@sc.rr.com writes: http://www.ancestry.com/aahistory I am not getting any of the links to work for free. They want me to sign up for a free 14 day trial. Am I doing something wrong? Davine ______________________________Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 20:14:15 EST From: DavineR@aol.com To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Ancestry.com In a message dated 2/10/2006 6:24:38 PM Eastern Standard Time, joyk@sc.rr.com writes: Davine, When you click on the site through this link: http://www.ancestry.com/aahistory You should be able to then click on any of the (blue) links to the data. Is that not working for you? Will someone else (that doesn't have an Ancestry.com subscription) try it? Joy No. It appears to be working, but when you click on the info you want it takes you to a sign in window which ultimate means you have to either subscribe or sign up for the 14 free day trial -- which I don't care to do. My ancestors were slave holders, and I was just curious to see if there was information there which I hadn't seen. Thanks for your help. Davine ______________________________Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:24:11 EST From: Ruthsperch@aol.com To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Kibler I have an ancestry.com membership but tried getting into these records without signing in. It worked for me so should work for anyone else. Just remember, you won't have access to everything in their database, just these specific records. ______________________________Date: Fri, 10 Feb 2006 23:25:27 EST From: Ruthsperch@aol.com To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Ancestry.com You must be doing something wrong. This link does take you to the specific free records only -- not everything in the Ancestry.com site. Try again, Ruth ______________________________Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 07:47:39 EST From: DavineR@aol.com To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Ancestry.com In a message dated 2/10/2006 11:25:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, Ruthsperch@aol.com writes: You must be doing something wrong. This link does take you to the specific free records only -- not everything in the Ancestry.com site. Try again, Ruth Ruth this is for the two week trial, which I am not interested in doing at this time. Thanks, Davine ______________________________Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:09:06 EST From: KGHALES@aol.com To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Kibler In a message dated 2/10/2006 6:24:38 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, joyk@sc.rr.com writes: http://www.ancestry.com/aahistory I was able to get to the page and click on a "search" page and get into 1930 census without a ancestry subscription. You only get a recap of the data. You don't get the actual census record during this free period. ______________________________Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 08:47:51 EST From: Ruthsperch@aol.com To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Ancestry.com No, this is not for the two week free trial. I visited the site at this link and was able to access the records without signing in. If you follow the link it will allow you to access ONLY the free sites. Ruth ______________________________Date: Sat, 11 Feb 2006 11:08:21 -0600 From: "Margie King" <heyred@knology.net> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Ancestry.com I missed the link for ancestory.com for the free info would you please post it again. Thank you, Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:47 AM Subject: Re: [SC] Ancestry.com > In a message dated 2/10/2006 11:25:55 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Ruthsperch@aol.com writes: > You must be doing something wrong. This link does take you to the > specific > free records only -- not everything in the Ancestry.com site. Try again, > > Ruth > Ruth this is for the two week trial, which I am not interested in doing at > this time. > > Thanks, > > Davine > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina GenForum Page > http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/ > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > [romance addicts /move on] [sex addicts /come on] [relationship addicts /hang on] {and all are progressive and fatal}

I graduate from high school with Tommy Bobo - in Sandy Springs, Ga. 1960 Diane ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Wiggins To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, February 11, 2006 6:54 PM Subject: Re: [SC] The Bobos I knew a family of Bobo's in North Charleston around 1950. There was two girls, Gail and Dana, and a younger brother, whose name I can't recall. I have no idea where they would be now. Don Wiggins, Leesburg, Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wanda Davis" <wbdavis@ktc.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 6:00 PM Subject: RE: [SC] The Bobos >A line of BOBO's from Spartanburg Co. SC went to Greene Co. Arkansas. > Some married into my BOWLIN line also from Spartanburg Co. SC to Walker > Co. > Georgia in the 1850 census & in 1857 to Greene Co. Arkansas. > > Wanda Bowlin Davis - Kerrville TX - wbdavis@ktc.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: GD Wells [mailto:gdwells@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:16 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SC] The Bobos > > Have you looked in Tennessee? The Bobos are very active in the Walking > Horse Celebration in Shelbyville, Bedford County, TN > GD Wells > > This msg sent from gdwells@bellsouth.net > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy > research > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > To contact the list maintainer > SC-Genealogy-admin@rootsweb.com > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== To contact the list maintainer SC-Genealogy-admin@rootsweb.com ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 2/10/2006

In a message dated 2/11/2006 19:40:18:P Central Standard Time, gaila@merrington.net writes: Has anyone ever seen a source for the Rev Turbeville bringing settlers from either England or North Carolina to South Carolina circa 1752? Gaila, No, but I would be very interested in this if you get data. Was Turbeville SC named after him? My 3GGrandfather John COLE came to Sumter District from NC. One of his Grandsons lived near present day Turbeville. Jerry Cole

thanks i`ll be checkin in to it thanks again an again ! SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: SC-Genealogy-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 23 Today's Topics: #1 Re: [SC] Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest ["Audrey Pool" ] Administrivia: To unsubscribe from SC-Genealogy-D, send a message to SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. ______________________________Date: Thu, 9 Feb 2006 19:38:48 -0800 From: "Audrey Pool" <aep@madnet.net> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #20 I want to share these names for an Immigrant Book for SC, 1760-1770. It is possible your ancestors came to America during this time period. Audrey Source: South Carolina Immigrants 1760-1770 ARRIVED: Name of ship, Captain, date, from Sloop Sally, Seth Harvey, 10/7/1766, Bermuda Scooner Old Plantation, Laben Pettit, 10/8/1766, Virginia Sloop Polly & Nancy, Kersey Stirrup, 1-/11/1766, Bahama Back Ship Carolina Packet, William White, 1-.13.1766, London COUNCIL JOURNAL, Page 843, October 17, 1766 Petitions on the Bounty Among others are: Trig Adam KEBLER COUNCIL JOURNAL, Page 107 Hans Mickler KEBLER 300 acres Broad and Saludy (Saluda) River COUNCIL JOURNAL, Page 455, February 27, 1765 Peter KEIBBER ----- Original Message ----- From: "lorenzo kibler" To: Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:15 PM Subject: [SC] Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #20 > Thank you tremendously !july 29th 1865 in columbia s carolina ,Melvin > Kibler was born to a dad that was already dead for being a runnaway slave > ,i have run into a brick wall trying to find out anything on melvin,i > really would appreciate any an all help as to whom his ancestors were > ,ie;mother father sisters,brothers cousins,nieces,nephews i find all > kibler every where else i go are not black,other than in s carolina,where > they claim no knowledge of him,i tracked him into mississippi,into > arkansas w/census reports an they keep saying he was bornin s carolina > ,his grandson my grandfather says his father told him he was born in > columbia but i cannot find him on any census in s carolina,help anyone > please > > SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > SC-Genealogy-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 20 > > Today's Topics: > #1 Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #19 [ > ] > #2 Re: Another Nathaniel THOMPSON-Wak ["Audrey Pool" ] > #3 RE: [SC] The Bobos ["Wanda Davis" ] > #4 Columbia, Richland County [Monya Havekost #5 Re: [SC] sorry - ["Diane > S" #6 Re: [SC] The Bobos ["Audrey Pool" ] > #7 RE: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya ["Joe & Laura Schmidt" > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from SC-Genealogy-D, send a message to > > SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com > > that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 15:11:07 -0500 > From: > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #19 > >> >> From: SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com >> Date: 2006/02/08 Wed PM 03:00:18 EST >> To: SC-Genealogy-D@rootsweb.com >> Subject: SC-Genealogy-D Digest V06 #19 >> > > To the person asking for the county for Columbia, SC...... > it is in Richland county....tho some portions may fall into Lexington > county..but the major portion is in Richland county.... > > As for finding Grant's.... > some of them married into the Gibson family in Greenville,SC > too......might look in Greenville county, wouldn't hurt to check there.... >> > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 12:22:59 -0800 > From: "Audrey Pool" > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Another Nathaniel THOMPSON-Wake Co, NC > > Source: Abstract of Record of Wills, Inventories, Settlements of Estates, > 1771-1802 Wake Co, NC - Frances Holloway Wynne > > > > THOMPSON, Samuel Will R. May 1801 p 218 > > In the name of God amen. Wife (unnamed): all estate for widowhood. Son > *NATH THOMPSON: 200 a. at the E end of land I now live on. Son Sam'l > THOMPSON 200 a. with plantation already given. Daughter Ann THOMPSON: > plantation I now live on so long as she lives single, then to son John > THOMPSON. Divide residue between Mary Ann Lucretia and Elizabeth so as not > to sell Negroes nor anything else. (Will undated, unsigned, unwitnessed > with no executors named). > > Note: There were no commas between Mary Ann Lucretia. (aep) > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 17:00:39 -0600 > From: "Wanda Davis" > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [SC] The Bobos > > A line of BOBO's from Spartanburg Co. SC went to Greene Co. Arkansas. > Some married into my BOWLIN line also from Spartanburg Co. SC to Walker > Co. > Georgia in the 1850 census & in 1857 to Greene Co. Arkansas. > > Wanda Bowlin Davis - Kerrville TX - wbdavis@ktc.com > > -----Original Message----- > From: GD Wells [mailto:gdwells@bellsouth.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:16 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SC] The Bobos > > Have you looked in Tennessee? The Bobos are very active in the Walking > Horse Celebration in Shelbyville, Bedford County, TN > GD Wells > > This msg sent from gdwells@bellsouth.net > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy > research > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:52:13 -0500 > From: Monya Havekost > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Columbia, Richland County > > Just a very small part of northwest Columbia is in Lexington County. > It is an area that was annexed into the city for tax reasons a few > years ago. > > Monya > Columbia, SC > > > Fayette Co. AL list manager > ASTON surname list manager > MUSGROVE surname list manager > THOMPSON surname list manager > Researching: ANDERSON, ANDERSEN (Norway), ASTON, BISHOP, DODSON, > FYLLINGSNES (Norway), GRANT, HARRIS, HOWELL, JORDAN, LESLIE, McDILL, > McDONALD, MILLIGAN, MORTON, MUSGROVE, OWEN, PEDEN, SOUTH, STANFORD, > THOMPSON, WEAVER and WEBSTER > On Feb 7, 2006, at 9:11 PM, Roger and Joy Atkinson wrote: > >> Rootsweb has a great search website for finding out which county a >> particular town is in http://resources.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/townco.cgi >> >> Columbia actually is located in 2 counties Lexington and Richland. I >> guess it grew across the county line. >> >> Joy >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: lorenzo kibler >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:02 PM >> Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya >> >> >> anyone know what county columbia is in ,my great grandfather was >> born in columbia s,carolina,an i am having great trouble trying to >> find him n the census >> >> Eddie Cox wrote: Monya, >> Are your Grant's from the upstate of SC? Laurens, or Greenwood maybe? >> Eddie >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Monya Havekost" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:11 AM >> Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO >> >> >>> I'm searching for my Nathan/Nathaniel THOMPSON, b. about 1775 in NC. >>> By >>> 1794 he married Elizabeth WEAVER in Jefferson Co. TN. They made their >>> home in Hawkins Co TN until moving to Fayette/Marion Co. AL by 1819. >>> >>> Would love to know from which county Nathan descended. >>> >>> Monya >>> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE >> Write SC-Genealogy-L-Request@RootsWeb.com >> Plain Text with just the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of letter >> Change the "L" to "D" if you have Digest Mode >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> [romance addicts /move on] [sex addicts /come on] [relationship >> addicts /hang on] {and all are progressive and fatal} >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >> To contact the list maintainer >> SC-Genealogy-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> ============================== >> New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your >> ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? >> sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >> >> >> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >> If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! >> Digest SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com >> List SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com >> only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE >> No signature/No nothing! >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 18:58:33 -0500 > From: "Diane S" > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC] sorry - > > Dale - > I have not found any relationship. My husband's father was born in Sicily > and his mother in Riccone/Rimini - his siblings were born in Brooklyn, and > the family has mostly migrated to N.J. and Florida - those remaining. > If you look at the Ellis Island pages, the name Sanfilippo was as common > as Wilson, Davis, etc. in America - I was going to add a page of all the > Sanfilippo names in a family book I did for my father-in-law a few years > ago but there were over 50 pages!! > Sanfilippo means St. Philip in Italian... > Diane > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 7:25 AM > Subject: RE: [SC] sorry - > > > Diane: > By any chance are you related to the Sanfilippos of Pennsylvania? > Thanks, > Dale Lynn Kibler Iwancio > > -----Original Message----- > From: Diane S [mailto:dsanfilippo303@adelphia.net] > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 3:17 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SC] sorry - > > Hi - sorry about the bounce - had a fried cable modem... all's well again. > Please reinstate! > Diane S Sanfilippo > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina GenForum Page > http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/ > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.2/253 - Release Date: 2/7/2006 > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 16:55:34 -0800 > From: "Audrey Pool" > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC] The Bobos > > Hi Wanda, Because there are plenty of BOBO records in SC, I suspect they > are easier to connect to than those whose records are scarce. Audrey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Wanda Davis" > To: > Sent: Wednesday, February 08, 2006 3:00 PM > Subject: RE: [SC] The Bobos > > >>A line of BOBO's from Spartanburg Co. SC went to Greene Co. Arkansas. >> Some married into my BOWLIN line also from Spartanburg Co. SC to Walker >> Co. >> Georgia in the 1850 census & in 1857 to Greene Co. Arkansas. >> >> Wanda Bowlin Davis - Kerrville TX - wbdavis@ktc.com >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: GD Wells [mailto:gdwells@bellsouth.net] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 7:16 PM >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: [SC] The Bobos >> >> Have you looked in Tennessee? The Bobos are very active in the Walking >> Horse Celebration in Shelbyville, Bedford County, TN >> GD Wells >> >> This msg sent from gdwells@bellsouth.net >> >> >> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >> Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina >> Genealogy >> research >> http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ >> >> ============================== >> Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >> areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >> Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >> To contact the list maintainer >> SC-Genealogy-admin@rootsweb.com >> >> ============================== >> Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >> last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >> >> > > ______________________________Date: Wed, 8 Feb 2006 21:15:33 -0800 > From: "Joe & Laura Schmidt" > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: RE: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Weatherford, Woody" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 9:35 AM > Subject: {not a subscriber} RE: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya > > >>I think that Columbia is in Lexington co >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: lorenzo kibler [mailto:justcoolinout@yahoo.com] >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:03 PM >> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) Grant's to Monya >> >> anyone know what county columbia is in ,my great grandfather was born in >> columbia s,carolina,an i am having great trouble trying to find him n >> the census >> >> Eddie Cox wrote: Monya, >> Are your Grant's from the upstate of SC? Laurens, or Greenwood maybe? >> Eddie >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Monya Havekost" >> To: >> Sent: Tuesday, February 07, 2006 12:11 AM >> Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO >> >> >>> I'm searching for my Nathan/Nathaniel THOMPSON, b. about 1775 in NC. >> By >>> 1794 he married Elizabeth WEAVER in Jefferson Co. TN. They made their >>> home in Hawkins Co TN until moving to Fayette/Marion Co. AL by 1819. >>> >>> Would love to know from which county Nathan descended. >>> >>> Monya >>> >> >> >> >> >> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== >> To UNSUBSCRIBE >> Write SC-Genealogy-L-Request@RootsWeb.com >> Plain Text with just the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of letter >> Change the "L" to "D" if you have Digest Mode >> >> ============================== >> Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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Share your tree with family and friends. >> Learn more: >> http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=1459 >> 9&targetid=5429 >> >> >> > > > > [romance addicts /move on] [sex addicts /come on] [relationship addicts > /hang on] {and all are progressive and fatal} > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy > research > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > [romance addicts /move on] [sex addicts /come on] [relationship addicts /hang on] {and all are progressive and fatal}