The SIZEMORE surname Y-DNA project is seeking male SIZEMORE surname descendants of the following list to participate in our project. ELISHA SISEMORE/SIZEMORE of Pickens Co., SC records; 1840 census Green Co., TN; 1850 census Sevier Co., TN. WILLIAM & Martha (- -?- -) SIZEMORE of Pickens Co., SC records. HENRY & Temperance (- -?- -) SIZEMORE of Pickens & Anderson Co. records. EPHRAIM SIZEMORE, JR & 1st wife Louanna/Leanner (PINDER?). In Anderson Co., SC 1850. Son of Spartanburg Co. Ephraim Sizemore, Sr. THOMAS STEVEN SIZEMORE & 1st wife Winny (- -?- -) 2nd. wife Martha (WATSON) of Anderson, Pickens, and Oconee records. Son of Ephraim Sizemore, Jr. & grandson of Ephraim Sizemore, Sr. ALFRED THOMAS SIZEMORE & Hannah (HUGHES) of Spartanburg & Greenville. Son of Jesse Sizemore & grandson of Ephraim Sizemore, Sr. WILLIAM SIZEMORE & Lucidia E. (HUGHES) SIZEMORE of Greenville. Son of Jesse Sizemore & grandson of Ephraim Sizemore, Sr. EPHRAIM J. SIZEMORE & 1st wife Winny (- -?- -), 2nd. wife Augusta "Axey" (WALLACE?). Son of Jesse Sizemore & grandson of Ephraim Sizemore, Sr. WILLIAM SIZEMORE & 1st wife Nancy (- -?- -), 2nd. wife Mary Angaline (- -?- -) of Spartanburg Co. records. And/or his son WILLIAM M. SIZEMORE md. Elizabeth (THOMPSON) BAGWELL. GEORGE SIZEMORE & Juda (McGAHA) sons THOMAS, WILLIAM & JOHN of Greenville Co., SC. Juda (McGAHA) SIZEMORE md. 2nd Henry RAINS and the family moved to Henderson (present Transylvania) Co., NC. I have additional information on all of these families and will be happy to share with any descendants. If you are (or know of) a male descendant interested in participating in our project, please contact me. Thanks, Joy (Wright) King Co-admin of the SIZEMORE surname DNA project Home page: http://www.genpage.com/sizemoreDNA.html Results page: http://www.genpage.com/DNAindex.html Earliest research: http://www.genpage.com/history_surname.html

Herb, As a fellow DNA Surname coordinator, GRIMES and ROSSER surnames, I greatly appreciate your explanation...as it is what I have also discovered....and why I encourage people to do the 37pt test.*S* It's the case of 'close only counts in horseshoes'. Being a totally separate DNA from all other family lines... has its benefits, and once a DNA test doesn't match, I just move from digging for hard copy on that line...on...to another. Eventually, I'll have weeded out those lines that aren't mine and...the guilty immigrant.*S* Lisa Grimes =================== -----Original Message----- From: Herbert Hendricks [mailto:Herb_316@msn.com] Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 5:54 AM To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: A True DNA Story A True DNA Story (A necessary understanding in DNA testing) by Herb Hendricks In 2004 we had a Hendricks Family from old Pendleton District start doing their DNA testing. Our Hendricks DNA Project had taken the advice of the SC Hill and Freeman Family DNA Projects and insisted on all Hendricks DNA participants do a complete 37+ marker test for all Hendricks families. Why was this a necessity? To really prove and separate different family members into groups the Hill and Freeman DNA Groups had found by experience that this was a truth that the Hill and Freeman DNA Project had not implemented in the beginning. When the above Hendricks family had completed their numerous descendants DNA testing they were disappointed as they did not match to any other of the other Hendricks groups. So following up on what is logically suggested in DNA testing, as we are all from a large family of humans that originated commonly back in time, they did a Y-Search. A Y-search is where you can enter your family DNA profile and check to see if you are kin to some other group of people who match to your DNA profile. This was a method to check against someone else being a parent of your family line. Upon doing this the Hendricks family matched 100% to another family line we shall call "Smith" up through his 25 marker test. Some people in life face the fact that this could be a true connection and follow up on the lead. Please note that the "Smith" person was not required to do a 37+ marker test. The person from the "Smith family who had the 100% match to the Hendricks family on the 25 marker test was contacted. He agreed to let the Hendricks family sponsor his 25-37 marker test. A sample was acquired from the "Smith" and sent to the DNA test lab. After waiting in much suspense without knowing the results for over 3 months the tests came back. The 25-37 marker test was quite revealing. The "Smith" person did not match to the Hendricks family as there was a 6 marker distance that showed up in the 25-37 DNA marker test. So what is the consequence? The Hendricks family was put though an ordeal, paid money out of their pocket and was kept in suspense for over 3 months because of the ignorance of the "Smith" Family DNA Group Coordinator. As it turned out this Hendricks group had a unique Hendricks DNA profile but the ignorance of people in the system put them through an unnecessary ordeal. Education on what is necessary to establish truth is often helpful in life. So one who is managing project needs to follow up and do what is right instead of promising people little proof with low marker test. This same story has validity when separating various brother groups within families. So now and then you will see my posts on SC nets where I continue to fight against ignorance in DNA testing. HDH 2/16/2006 God Bless Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks /> -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.6/257 - Release Date: 2/10/2006

A True DNA Story (A necessary understanding in DNA testing) by Herb Hendricks In 2004 we had a Hendricks Family from old Pendleton District start doing their DNA testing. Our Hendricks DNA Project had taken the advice of the SC Hill and Freeman Family DNA Projects and insisted on all Hendricks DNA participants do a complete 37+ marker test for all Hendricks families. Why was this a necessity? To really prove and separate different family members into groups the Hill and Freeman DNA Groups had found by experience that this was a truth that the Hill and Freeman DNA Project had not implemented in the beginning. When the above Hendricks family had completed their numerous descendants DNA testing they were disappointed as they did not match to any other of the other Hendricks groups. So following up on what is logically suggested in DNA testing, as we are all from a large family of humans that originated commonly back in time, they did a Y-Search. A Y-search is where you can enter your family DNA profile and check to see if you are kin to some other group of people who match to your DNA profile. This was a method to check against someone else being a parent of your family line. Upon doing this the Hendricks family matched 100% to another family line we shall call "Smith" up through his 25 marker test. Some people in life face the fact that this could be a true connection and follow up on the lead. Please note that the "Smith" person was not required to do a 37+ marker test. The person from the "Smith family who had the 100% match to the Hendricks family on the 25 marker test was contacted. He agreed to let the Hendricks family sponsor his 25-37 marker test. A sample was acquired from the "Smith" and sent to the DNA test lab. After waiting in much suspense without knowing the results for over 3 months the tests came back. The 25-37 marker test was quite revealing. The "Smith" person did not match to the Hendricks family as there was a 6 marker distance that showed up in the 25-37 DNA marker test. So what is the consequence? The Hendricks family was put though an ordeal, paid money out of their pocket and was kept in suspense for over 3 months because of the ignorance of the "Smith" Family DNA Group Coordinator. As it turned out this Hendricks group had a unique Hendricks DNA profile but the ignorance of people in the system put them through an unnecessary ordeal. Education on what is necessary to establish truth is often helpful in life. So one who is managing project needs to follow up and do what is right instead of promising people little proof with low marker test. This same story has validity when separating various brother groups within families. So now and then you will see my posts on SC nets where I continue to fight against ignorance in DNA testing. HDH 2/16/2006 God Bless Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>

Here's the 2006 info: Bobo Family Reunions 2006 BFA Reunion, 20 - 23 April, Clinton, SC The 2006 Reunion of the BOBO Family Assn. will be Thursday, 20 April, to Sunday, 23 April, in Clinton, SC. Among the activities will be the annual dinner, reports on association activities, visits to cemeteries and BOBO family homesteads in Union, Laurens and Spartanburg Counties and other places of family interest. Robert G. (Bob) BOBO, BFA Database Coordinator is coordinating the reunion and is arranging the accommodations. He will announce activities as they are scheduled. His E-Mail address is: TwoBos@PeoplePC.com Contact: Chuck Bobo Coordinator, Bobo Family Assn. 3101 Thurman Road, No. H-22 HUNTSVILLE, AL 35805 E-Mail: FamilyBobo@aol.com PHONE: 256-468-5059 On Feb 15, 2006, at 2:13 PM, Anna Mary Rudy wrote: > I am not a Bobo researcher, but I had the following information saved. > This website might be helpful. > > Anna > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChuckBobo@aol.com> > To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:08 PM > Subject: [TNBEDFOR] 2005 BOBO Family Reunion > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Classification: Query >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IhB.2ACI/572 >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Final Registration Call, BOBO Family Reunion >> >> The 2005 BOBO Family Reunion will be in Tuscaloosa and Fayette, AL, >> 27-30 >> May. Activities will include reports on family research projects and >> publishing projects, several meals together and visits to area >> cemeteries >> and research facilities. All cousins are invited to attend. We will >> honor Mrs. Jeanie NEWELL, who with her late husband Herb, published >> the >> book, "BOBO.Cousins by the Dozens." >> >> If you can attend only one day, make it Saturday, 28 May. Activities >> will >> include reports on activities of the BOBO Assn., including research, >> family history and current family activities. Activities include a >> buffet >> luncheon and the annual dinner at the Jerry Belk Activity Center, 2101 >> Bowers Park Drive. Jeanie NEWELL will be given recognition at the >> day's >> activities. >> >> The March and April BOBO Roots-Cellar Newsletters can be downloaded >> from >> www.FamilyBobo.org for a description of all activities. >> >> We need your responses immediately in ordering food for the Saturday >> events. Contact: >> Charles H. (Chuck) BOBO, Coordinator >> The BOBO Family Assn. >> E-Mail: FamilyBobo@aol.com >> >> >> >> >> ==== TNBEDFOR Mailing List ==== >> Join the Bedford County Historical Society! >> >> Contact: BCHS >> P.O. Box 141 >> Shelbyville, TN 37162 >> >> Annual Dues are only $12.50! >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Fournier" <mickey@se.rr.com> > To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:46 AM > Subject: RE: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Virus warnings are not welcome on this list. > Remember when writing a query, to always put in DATES & LOCATIONS > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. > Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx? > sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 >

The BOBOS were, and are, active people...lots of information on them. My interest was with the CROW connection. Thanks much to all who have shared data on BOBOS. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anna Mary Rudy" <stardust45@conwaycorp.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO information >I am not a Bobo researcher, but I had the following information saved. >This website might be helpful. > > Anna > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <ChuckBobo@aol.com> > To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:08 PM > Subject: [TNBEDFOR] 2005 BOBO Family Reunion > > >> This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. >> >> Classification: Query >> >> Message Board URL: >> >> http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IhB.2ACI/572 >> >> Message Board Post: >> >> Final Registration Call, BOBO Family Reunion >> >> The 2005 BOBO Family Reunion will be in Tuscaloosa and Fayette, AL, 27-30 >> May. Activities will include reports on family research projects and >> publishing projects, several meals together and visits to area cemeteries >> and research facilities. All cousins are invited to attend. We will >> honor Mrs. Jeanie NEWELL, who with her late husband Herb, published the >> book, "BOBO.Cousins by the Dozens." >> >> If you can attend only one day, make it Saturday, 28 May. Activities >> will >> include reports on activities of the BOBO Assn., including research, >> family history and current family activities. Activities include a >> buffet >> luncheon and the annual dinner at the Jerry Belk Activity Center, 2101 >> Bowers Park Drive. Jeanie NEWELL will be given recognition at the day's >> activities. >> >> The March and April BOBO Roots-Cellar Newsletters can be downloaded from >> www.FamilyBobo.org for a description of all activities. >> >> We need your responses immediately in ordering food for the Saturday >> events. Contact: >> Charles H. (Chuck) BOBO, Coordinator >> The BOBO Family Assn. >> E-Mail: FamilyBobo@aol.com >> >> >> >> >> ==== TNBEDFOR Mailing List ==== >> Join the Bedford County Historical Society! >> >> Contact: BCHS >> P.O. Box 141 >> Shelbyville, TN 37162 >> >> Annual Dues are only $12.50! >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mickey Fournier" <mickey@se.rr.com> > To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:46 AM > Subject: RE: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO > > >> > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Virus warnings are not welcome on this list. > Remember when writing a query, to always put in DATES & LOCATIONS > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

Leigh, That is a very interesting story; wonder how many towns have names that we would like to hear about. I've never been to SC and work from counties when doing research, but have heard of Cross Anchors because there were POOLS/PETTYPOOLS there. Thanks for sharing. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: <LSmith3437@aol.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 1:33 AM Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO > Audrey - i had to get some information for a question i received at the > local historical society. ithough you might be interested in my answer > since it > concerned the BOB family of Spartanburg Co., SC > The town of Cross Anchor abt 5 miles west of Spartanburg was named for a > house built by the Capt. of the British ship Sally. Crossed anchors were > in the > bricks of the chimney.This house burned in 1832. The owner of the > plantation > is not known. But Barnum Bobo was a purser on the ship the Sally. > Barnum > Bobo built his home om 1813 below Spartanburg near Union, and put crossed > keys > in his chimney since as the purser of the ship, he was the holder of the > keys. > This is where thename of the town of Cross Keys came from. I believe > this > house still exists with the keys in the chimney. > > leigh > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina GenForum Page > http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > >

I am not a Bobo researcher, but I had the following information saved. This website might be helpful. Anna ----- Original Message ----- From: <ChuckBobo@aol.com> To: <TNBEDFOR-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 5:08 PM Subject: [TNBEDFOR] 2005 BOBO Family Reunion > This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. > > Classification: Query > > Message Board URL: > > http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/IhB.2ACI/572 > > Message Board Post: > > Final Registration Call, BOBO Family Reunion > > The 2005 BOBO Family Reunion will be in Tuscaloosa and Fayette, AL, 27-30 > May. Activities will include reports on family research projects and > publishing projects, several meals together and visits to area cemeteries > and research facilities. All cousins are invited to attend. We will > honor Mrs. Jeanie NEWELL, who with her late husband Herb, published the > book, "BOBO.Cousins by the Dozens." > > If you can attend only one day, make it Saturday, 28 May. Activities will > include reports on activities of the BOBO Assn., including research, > family history and current family activities. Activities include a buffet > luncheon and the annual dinner at the Jerry Belk Activity Center, 2101 > Bowers Park Drive. Jeanie NEWELL will be given recognition at the day's > activities. > > The March and April BOBO Roots-Cellar Newsletters can be downloaded from > www.FamilyBobo.org for a description of all activities. > > We need your responses immediately in ordering food for the Saturday > events. Contact: > Charles H. (Chuck) BOBO, Coordinator > The BOBO Family Assn. > E-Mail: FamilyBobo@aol.com > > > > > ==== TNBEDFOR Mailing List ==== > Join the Bedford County Historical Society! > > Contact: BCHS > P.O. Box 141 > Shelbyville, TN 37162 > > Annual Dues are only $12.50! > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mickey Fournier" <mickey@se.rr.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 8:46 AM Subject: RE: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO >

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While we are on the subject of the Bobo family, does anybody know anything about Barram Bobo who lived on the Union County side of Tyger River. He was a neighbor to my Wright family who named a son Barram. Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE CR 252 Lake City, FL 32025 mickey@se.rr.com > -----Original Message----- > From: LSmith3437@aol.com [mailto:LSmith3437@aol.com] > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:34 AM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC] Re: [SC) BOBO > > Audrey - i had to get some information for a question i > received at the local historical society. ithough you might > be interested in my answer since it concerned the BOB family > of Spartanburg Co., SC The town of Cross Anchor abt 5 miles > west of Spartanburg was named for a house built by the Capt. > of the British ship Sally. Crossed anchors were in the > bricks of the chimney.This house burned in 1832. The owner > of the plantation > is not known. But Barnum Bobo was a purser on the ship the > Sally. Barnum > Bobo built his home om 1813 below Spartanburg near Union, and > put crossed keys in his chimney since as the purser of the > ship, he was the holder of the keys. > This is where thename of the town of Cross Keys came from. > I believe this > house still exists with the keys in the chimney. > > leigh > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina GenForum Page > http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/ > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only > for ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >

Female dna is called Mtdna. Mtdna passes from Mothers to daughters and to sons, however sons do not pass it on. There is a book called The Seven Daughters of Eve: The Science That Reveals Our Genetic Ancestry by Brian Sykes and this book is illustrative about Mtdna. It talks about how each Mtdna group started existence and what type of life our earliest maternal ancestor would have had. Genealogically, I have a Godwin ancestor in Georgia who married a Wilder and his brother married a Goodwin. I could test maternal DNA to see if these two women were sisters. Godwin and Goodwin could be different spellings of the same name. My Mtdna and the Mtdna taken from a daughter descendant of Ms Goodwin Wilder could be compared, if they matched could prove my theory. Y-DNA is more informative in tracing family lines connected by surnames. We still have to realise that our pioneer forefathers had a hard life at times. Disease, wars and Indian raids mean that sometime, even though the paper trail is correct , the DNA doesn't match. If Indian raids, wars or plagues left orphans, families in the community would just take them in. I am sure there are as many reasons for non-paternal events as there are in today's society. When you are researching Y-DNA, the great thing is being able to see different branches of the same name match and being able to visualise the migration trail. In many cases, two branches don't match but you can then exclude the non-match and focus your research where you can get positive results. Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty lovell" <lovell@ragland.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 4:11 AM Subject: Re: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics > what about the female dna test > Betty

Audrey - i had to get some information for a question i received at the local historical society. ithough you might be interested in my answer since it concerned the BOB family of Spartanburg Co., SC The town of Cross Anchor abt 5 miles west of Spartanburg was named for a house built by the Capt. of the British ship Sally. Crossed anchors were in the bricks of the chimney.This house burned in 1832. The owner of the plantation is not known. But Barnum Bobo was a purser on the ship the Sally. Barnum Bobo built his home om 1813 below Spartanburg near Union, and put crossed keys in his chimney since as the purser of the ship, he was the holder of the keys. This is where thename of the town of Cross Keys came from. I believe this house still exists with the keys in the chimney. leigh

To Whoever; Many times in life people cannot recognize the truth and other do not care what is the truth. As this still seems to be the USA freedom of speech when truth is spoken is still a right many want to suppress it and subvert it to their way of thinking. Just maybe it is time to get an education. A good place to start on the subject of DNA testing is Trace Your Roots with DNA: Using Genetic Tests to Explore Your Family Tree<http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=eV3lrs4Dyv&isbn=1594860068&itm=1> Megan Smolenyak, Ann Turner Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>

Maybe I am not smart enough to follow what you last two fellows are so upset about, but I am smart enough to recognize the rudeness of your remarks. Gloria Donaldson Wells gdwells@bellsouth.net

Talk with an expert. You obviously need to do this. Charles Kerchner. Your time in research is miniscule to a lot of people out here. Why not open up your mind and see real results and try to keep from living in your own surname you might learn something. Join Genealogy DNA-L and learn also. 37+. Looking up your project count you should be getting in the regime where you are beginning to get enough groups that 37+ markers start separating people in groups. Doing just 12 and 25 markers leads to many many false positive conclusions. Read Charles Kerchner. Get out of your own experience see what other people say. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bbairdsr@aol.com<mailto:Bbairdsr@aol.com> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics I guess I'm serious about Family genealogy since I've been working on it full time for 10 years and on DNA testing for 1-1/2 years. 10 months didn't seem to long to me. All of the people who have joined our DNA project have only one reason for joining, to break down their brick wall for their Baird ancestor. They want to identify the unknown Baird who is next in their ancestry. They care very little about their deep ancestry or in identifying genetic connection to men with different surnames whose connection to them probably occurred prior to the time when surnames were adopted. I stand by my assertion that the 12 marker test is a cost effective approach to assist them in directing their research efforts because it worked for me and it has worked for others. For some of our members who have unique 12 marker haplotypes, it is sufficient. However, for others, myself included, who have a more common 12 marker haplotype for our Baird surname, additional markers are necessary to refine the research efforts. I agree that for these men, additonal markers, and especially markers with high mutation rates, are required. But, even with 37+ markers, there is no such thing as "absolute proof" of a lineage connection. The only thing it provides is guidance for directing your research efforts. In other words, if I match a man exactly on all 37 markers and he has documented his Baird line way back past when my ggg-grandfather, James Baird m. Sarah Wade in 1789 (my first record) I still need to find the documentation which tells me who in his Baird line is also my closest ancestor. It could be anyone in his line from his gggg-grandfather (if our generations closely fit) to about his 30th great grandfather (about when surnames were adopted). I could say the same thing for a man who I matched on 12 out of 12 markers. The thing that the 37 marker test does is skew the probability distribution curve toward the nearer generations, so it is more probable that your match is closer to the nearer generations than the farther generations. But we genealogists do not like to rely on probability data. The DNA companies talk about our ancestor being within a certain generation range with a probability of 50% or something like that. I want to know my exact ancestor with a probability of 98%, which is about what I can expect from a birth record that the named father is a true father. None of the preseantly available Y chromosome DNA tests are anywhere close to being that accurate. Since you mentioned 37 marker testing, I assumed you were referring to FTDNA since they are the only company who offers the 37 marker test. I have read several of Charles Kerchner's papers and he discusses the FTDNA 37 marker test in one of them. Relative Genetics (RG), who you mentioned, only offers an 18, 26, or 43 marker test, not the 37 marker test. Bruce Baird In a message dated 2/14/2006 1:33:48 PM Central Standard Time, Herb_316@msn.com<mailto:Herb_316@msn.com> writes: Ten months is a life time to most people serious about Family genealogy. 12 mrker testing tells you are not serious for how do you even know which of many surnames is correct. That is why 37+ marker testing is serious business. We use it excusively 37+. Simple. To get an absolute proof with lineages of a connection you need 37 markers. Suggest you do a search of Charles Kerchner and his his documents. You apparently have not found out that DNA testing companies like to tell little white lies and lead you down the path that takes forever to find out your connections and to spend a few more $. Seriously you need to read Charles Kerchner's web site and e-mail him and get on board serious DNA testing. The stage of testing has far passed 37+ markers to SNP and deep clades if you are serious. Whoever said any name of any one company. We offer their choice however people who want good deal and with good results in a short period of time less than four weeks from start to finish RG is the company. Read Kerchner see what real experience teaches you. Herb Hendricks ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! 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THE LAST TIME I LOOKED THIS WAS A GENEALOGY WEBSITE AND NOT A FORUM FOR POMPUS BLOVIATING ABOUT THE MENSA STATUS OF THE AUTHORS- GET BACK TO THE BASICS GUYS WE ARE NOT ALL THAT IMPRESSED-ENOUGH ALREADY

Hi Gaila, Bryan Sykes calculated a non-paternity rate of 1.3 percent per generation for his Sykes study. In their book, "Trace Your Roots with DNA," Smolenyak and Turner used this 1.3 percent non-paternity rate in calculating that 85 percent of the nominal descendants from an ancestor 12 generations back will carry a recognizable DNA signature. The remaining 15 percent may possess the founder's name but someone else's Y-DNA. I have heard of 2% to 5% rates for false paternities, depending on the time and society. Do you have a number for American frontier families? A report on television the other day mentioned single mother birth rates of 24% for European American women and 70% for African American women. I suspect this is going to play havoc with future genealogists using DNA to find their roots. Bruce Baird In a message dated 2/14/2006 2:29:40 PM Central Standard Time, gaila@merrington.net writes: Y-DNA is more informative in tracing family lines connected by surnames. We still have to realise that our pioneer forefathers had a hard life at times. Disease, wars and Indian raids mean that sometime, even though the paper trail is correct , the DNA doesn't match. If Indian raids, wars or plagues left orphans, families in the community would just take them in. I am sure there are as many reasons for non-paternal events as there are in today's society

I guess I'm serious about Family genealogy since I've been working on it full time for 10 years and on DNA testing for 1-1/2 years. 10 months didn't seem to long to me. All of the people who have joined our DNA project have only one reason for joining, to break down their brick wall for their Baird ancestor. They want to identify the unknown Baird who is next in their ancestry. They care very little about their deep ancestry or in identifying genetic connection to men with different surnames whose connection to them probably occurred prior to the time when surnames were adopted. I stand by my assertion that the 12 marker test is a cost effective approach to assist them in directing their research efforts because it worked for me and it has worked for others. For some of our members who have unique 12 marker haplotypes, it is sufficient. However, for others, myself included, who have a more common 12 marker haplotype for our Baird surname, additional markers are necessary to refine the research efforts. I agree that for these men, additonal markers, and especially markers with high mutation rates, are required. But, even with 37+ markers, there is no such thing as "absolute proof" of a lineage connection. The only thing it provides is guidance for directing your research efforts. In other words, if I match a man exactly on all 37 markers and he has documented his Baird line way back past when my ggg-grandfather, James Baird m. Sarah Wade in 1789 (my first record) I still need to find the documentation which tells me who in his Baird line is also my closest ancestor. It could be anyone in his line from his gggg-grandfather (if our generations closely fit) to about his 30th great grandfather (about when surnames were adopted). I could say the same thing for a man who I matched on 12 out of 12 markers. The thing that the 37 marker test does is skew the probability distribution curve toward the nearer generations, so it is more probable that your match is closer to the nearer generations than the farther generations. But we genealogists do not like to rely on probability data. The DNA companies talk about our ancestor being within a certain generation range with a probability of 50% or something like that. I want to know my exact ancestor with a probability of 98%, which is about what I can expect from a birth record that the named father is a true father. None of the preseantly available Y chromosome DNA tests are anywhere close to being that accurate. Since you mentioned 37 marker testing, I assumed you were referring to FTDNA since they are the only company who offers the 37 marker test. I have read several of Charles Kerchner's papers and he discusses the FTDNA 37 marker test in one of them. Relative Genetics (RG), who you mentioned, only offers an 18, 26, or 43 marker test, not the 37 marker test. Bruce Baird In a message dated 2/14/2006 1:33:48 PM Central Standard Time, Herb_316@msn.com writes: Ten months is a life time to most people serious about Family genealogy. 12 mrker testing tells you are not serious for how do you even know which of many surnames is correct. That is why 37+ marker testing is serious business. We use it excusively 37+. Simple. To get an absolute proof with lineages of a connection you need 37 markers. Suggest you do a search of Charles Kerchner and his his documents. You apparently have not found out that DNA testing companies like to tell little white lies and lead you down the path that takes forever to find out your connections and to spend a few more $. Seriously you need to read Charles Kerchner's web site and e-mail him and get on board serious DNA testing. The stage of testing has far passed 37+ markers to SNP and deep clades if you are serious. Whoever said any name of any one company. We offer their choice however people who want good deal and with good results in a short period of time less than four weeks from start to finish RG is the company. Read Kerchner see what real experience teaches you. Herb Hendricks

Ten months is a life time to most people serious about Family genealogy. 12 mrker testing tells you are not serious for how do you even know which of many surnames is correct. That is why 37+ marker testing is serious business. We use it excusively 37+. Simple. To get an absolute proof with lineages of a connection you need 37 markers. Suggest you do a search of Charles Kerchner and his his documents. You apparently have not found out that DNA testing companies like to tell little white lies and lead you down the path that takes forever to find out your connections and to spend a few more $. Seriously you need to read Charles Kerchner's web site and e-mail him and get on board serious DNA testing. The stage of testing has far passed 37+ markers to SNP and deep clades if you are serious. Whoever said any name of any one company. We offer their choice however people who want good deal and with good results in a short period of time less than four weeks from start to finish RG is the company. Read Kerchner see what real experience teaches you. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Bbairdsr@aol.com<mailto:Bbairdsr@aol.com> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics The 12 marker test can be very logical, especially if your goal is to determine whether you are connected to a family which you think you might be connected to because of paper records. It didn't take forever to get my SMGF results. I got them in 10 months. I have yet to find someone who had a 37 marker test done who used that exclusively, without further paper analysis, to break down a brick wall. It's just not good enough. Perhaps a 300 marker test would suffice to provide the desired statistical accuracy. If you want to get a lot of markers for the cheapest price and don't want to wait the long time for the SMGF results, consider DNA Heritage instead of FTDNA. They now offer a 43 marker test for $159.20 or $137.77 if you are part of a surname project. One member of our Baird project just got his results back from them and I incorporated them into my Baird database. No DNA project administrator should be limited to one DNA testing company. Competition is the key if we expect to bring the cost of DNA testing down in order to grow. Bruce Baird Retired Engineer for NASA's Apollo, Space Shuttle, and Space Station Programs www.bairddna.com<http://www.bairddna.com/> In a message dated 2/13/2006 11:00:09 PM Central Standard Time, Herb_316@msn.com<mailto:Herb_316@msn.com> writes: You need to tell everyone why do 5 DNA 12 marker tests is not good logical. The total cost would be better doing a 37+ marker test. You can then go to these different groups who provide free methods to compare your markers to names that are in their list if you are not certain of your surname. You can then choose and select how many markers you want to compare to. If you don't have enough markers you are wasting your time and money. Also need to tell everyone it may take forever to get a SMGF free test results. So you pick and choose but going for good results in a timely manner with good confidence you have done the right thing demands a 37+ marker test either now or in the future. So why not go for the right thing first off as it is cheaper in the long run from a surname project group. Facts not faced early on in DNA testing cost you not only money but time. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com>> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>> ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== South Carolina GenForum Page http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/<http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/> ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx>

To gain any use of mtDNA tests for women you have to do a lot of work. Trace Your Roots with DNA: Using Genetic Tests to Explore Your Family Tree<http://search.barnesandnoble.com/booksearch/isbnInquiry.asp?userid=eV3lrs4Dyv&isbn=1594860068&itm=1> This little book give a small explanation of the process. Effecitvely as with most DNA stuff you have to have a plan. Say you do not know who the common mother of someone is. mtDNA works like a "V" in terms of a lineage chart. To test for the mother of someone, she has to have two daughters, and down though the generations of time you follow a path for each side of the "V" to a living person. Basically this is 1) mother, 2) daughter of mother, 3) daughter of daughter of mother, 4) daughter of, daughter of, daughter of mother, 5) etc, 6) etc for both sides of the "V" until you get to 7) two living persons. Now this is a twisting path as the maiden name of keeps changing in time to the married name and on and on. When you get to the two living people and have their mtDNA done and the results match you know that these two living person had a common mother back in time. Now you have to map this out like a lineage chart for Y-DNA male lineage to make sure it fits. It also requires you to have a tremendous data base. The old Pendleton District SC web site has 350,000+ searchable names. I have done this using their data base for a number of Old Pendleton District families. The pitfall is that you hope not to get where there is no surviving daughter. Or this leads to a dead end. So large data bases allow you to search all the daughters of each family as you go down the "V" paths in time. Then the of problem finding the living persons and getting them to do a mtDNA test. Usually you have to pay for the test for it is over $400 each. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Betty lovell<mailto:lovell@ragland.net> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 12:11 PM Subject: Re: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics what about the female dna test Betty ----- Original Message ----- From: "Herbert Hendricks" <Herb_316@msn.com<mailto:Herb_316@msn.com>> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:59 PM Subject: Re: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics > You need to tell everyone why do 5 DNA 12 marker tests is not good logical. > > The total cost would be better doing a 37+ marker test. You can then go to these different groups who provide free methods to compare your markers to names that are in their list if you are not certain of your surname. You can then choose and select how many markers you want to compare to. If you don't have enough markers you are wasting your time and money. > > Also need to tell everyone it may take forever to get a SMGF free test results. > > So you pick and choose but going for good results in a timely manner with good confidence you > have done the right thing demands a 37+ marker test either now or in the future. So why not go for the right thing first off as it is cheaper in the long run from a surname project group. > > Facts not faced early on in DNA testing cost you not only money but time. > > > Herb Hendricks > Retired NASA Physicist > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator > Secretary Hendricks Family Association > Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com>> > 1210 Long Meadow DR > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > 434 832 7246 > Major/Smith/Hendricks > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Bbairdsr@aol.com<mailto:Bbairdsr@aol.com<mailto:Bbairdsr@aol.com<mailto:Bbairdsr@aol.com>> > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 8:36 PM > Subject: Re: [SC] RE: [SCEDGEFI] Genealogy and Genetics > > > I have been a co-administrator for the Baird - Beard Project for a year and a > half. > > First of all, the 12 marker test is GREAT for directing you where NOT to > spend your time researching, so I wouldn't write it off. I wasted a lot of years > researching Beard - Baird lines for my brick wall with no luck and now one > simple 12 marker DNA test told me I was wasting my time, because there were no > DNA connections from me to any of them. A friend of mine, whose family has been > researching his line for over a hundred years, paid for about five 12 marker > DNA tests before he found a subject he matched exactly. That was the key to > him concentrating his research efforts on one Baird line, and using tried and > true genealogy research methods, he has now extended his line back two > generations. > > The 37 marker test by FTDNA, 39 marker test by SMGF, or the 43 marker test by > DNA Heritage will not break down that brick wall, even if you exactly match > someone else for all markers. It will narrow the range of probably candidates, > but you still need to do traditional genealogy research. > > As for cost, I preferred to submit a sample to the Sorenson Molecular > Genealogy Foundation <smgf.org> and have them do my DNA testing for 39 markers for > FREE. Yes, I said FREE. It takes a year to a year and a half before they > publish the results and you have to know how to search their database for your > results, but anyone who does genealogy should be able to figure out how to do > that. I've done it for many Bairds and Beards over the last year. > > Bruce Baird > > In a message dated 2/13/2006 6:53:32 PM Central Standard Time, kcks@gorge.net<mailto:kcks@gorge.net<mailto:kcks@gorge.net<mailto:kcks@gorge.net>> > writes: > Hello All, > > I'm glad this discussion has hit the list...and with a specific > question as to test costs. *S* > > You can do a DNA test...just about anywhere, but walking in the cost is > going to be higher...than with a Surname DNA Project. > So the big recomendation is to sign up with a Surname Project. > > The cost for a DNA test with an established surname project is: > > 12 marker $_99.00........ YES, one dollar less than $100. > > The above is the cheapest...but it will only provide info that dates back > eons into the past. Usually pre-language of any kind.*S* > > 25 marker $169.00 [........about 5-10 generations back] > 37 marker $229 00 [current to about 7 generations back] > > As a Surname DNA Project Coordinator, GRIMES & ROSSER, the two tests... 25 > and 37 are where I like to see targeted. > > IF...you're part of a large line, siblings & cousins, with several males > that would like to do this test, it can be done on a budget. > > 1-2 at the 37 marker level, 1-2 at the 25 marker level and then > ...the balance of the fellows testing can do the 12 marker level. > > IF there's any need to increase from the 12 pt level, it can be done > later...and without any further [i.e., new] DNA samples. > > This set of tests...is for males of a given surname, as that is the "YY" > chromosome...which is what we're trying to follow. > Surnames 'usually' are passed from father-son...with exceptions, the "YY" > chromosome always is. > > There is a test...that ladies can participate in, but that will only follow > the "XX" chromosome, which is passed mother-daughter. > This test is the mitochondrial one and sadly...won't help to prove the line > from a daughter...for any Surname DNA Project. :o( > > The costs aren't cheap...but it's a lot lower than tracing the line that you > believe is yours for too many years, only to discover a piece of paper that > proves conclusively that the line isn't yours. > > For me...I only have one lifetime to spend, so double checking with the DNA > makes very good sense to me. *S* > > Lisa Grimes > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina Resources Available at RootsWeb! > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html<http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html<http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html<http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html>> > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. 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