We have covered the DNA project this month more than enough! Time to move on. Laura LM

Go to the below sites by either clicking on the site or copying and pasting them in your browser. Take a little study on DNA mapping to get back to Africa or wherever you dead end in time. http://ycc.biosci.arizona.edu/nomenclature_system/fig1.html<http://ycc.biosci.arizona.edu/nomenclature_system/fig1.html> http://www.familytreedna.com/haplotree.html<http://www.familytreedna.com/haplotree.html> http://worldfamilies.net/y-haplogroups.htm<http://worldfamilies.net/y-haplogroups.htm> http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/1.htm<http://members.cox.net/johnrcarpenter/1.htm> Just maybe this will show people how mapping your particular DNA back in time is much more complicated than just a 12 marker DNA test. A lot of 12 Marker DNA tests also do not give you the first step in your mapping process It often takes an SNP test to do this. About 20% of our Hendricks DNA participants had no typical route to a Haplotree marker without an SNP testing. Then a deep clades set of test to map further back in time. Then you may find you have a uniques set of results that has not been mapped. The results a brick wall until enough of a data base is collected and compared to continue mapping backward in the past. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>

Dear Mildred, Generally Y-DNA results refer to markers of men, with a common surname which passes the genes from father to son to grandson forever, as you never hear much about a different type of marker for mtDNA test. Matching markers between two women, correctly traced in mtDNA testing prove a common mother. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Mickey Fournier<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:45 PM Subject: RE: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the Initiators As I previously stated, I am female. Isn't the "marker" thing associated with Y chromosome DNA? I've been involved in genealogy research for nearly 30 years...before most courthouse had copy machines...and certainly before this internet technology or DNA tests. Isn't it amazing how far we have come in such a short while? Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE CR 252 Lake City, FL 32025 mickey@se.rr.com<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Herbert Hendricks [mailto:Herb_316@msn.com] > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:19 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: Re: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the > Initiators > > Dear Mildred, > > Just what I have been saying. > > You need a DNA data base of your surname, not just one test. > > Many DNA participants. The more the better. > > A single test for you from the Genographic Project does no > good by itself other than gives other people information on > your origin back in time. This is not totally sufficient and true. > > You will find that this 12 marker test also is not sufficient > to track your origin. You need an SNP test and a deep clades > test and if there is a data base of people to match to there > maybe you can track where your family came from back in time. > No guarantee. > > I just did this and I have a unique Haplotype which has no > traceable ancestors back into the last ice age that have been > mapped at this time. > > Doesn't solve your family history problem. A single DNA test > does absolutely no good. > > You also need independently acquired family histories > obtained through research for each surname DNA participant. > Any good DNA Project Administrator will tell you this. > > My postings have been to clarify this, as a lot of the > Genogrphic Project managers do not do this. > > Your conclusions valid. > > > Herb Hendricks > Retired NASA Physicist > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks > Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com>> > 1210 Long Meadow DR > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > 434 832 7246 > Major/Smith/Hendricks > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu<http://wwwftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu> > blic/hendricks/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mickey Fournier<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com>> > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:13 PM > Subject: RE: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by > the Initiators > > > I sent my DNA to the Genographic project because > > 1) I think it is a very worthwhile undertaking. Yes, I > know they are using > my money to test DNA of the few remaining indigenous people > but that's fine > with me. If they don't do it now, those populations will > have just blended > in with the rest of us. > > 2) You can transfer your DNA to FamilyTreeDNA and pay for > extra "markers" if > that is applicable. The 12 marker test is $129 or more > through most of the > surname groups and $99 through NG. I am female so I don't > have that doesn't > apply to me. > > 3) They go overboard with privacy. They send you a kit > with a number and > that number is the only thing that identifies your DNA. If > you lose it, you > are out of luck. And, who's to say the FBI won't be able > to obtain your DNA > from you surnman project. It would surely be a whole lot > easier to identify > you!! > > 4) If you want to break down your brick walls, you need a > LOT more than a > DNA test! > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > 1730 SE CR 252 > Lake City, FL 32025 > mickey@se.rr.com<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com>> > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Herbert Hendricks [mailto:Herb_316@msn.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:58 PM > > To: > SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com>> > > Subject: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the > Initiators > > > > To All, > > > > Please read the following quote: > > > > "Last year, in April (2005) the National Geographic Society > > threw its weight behind a distinctly 21st-century mapping > > effort: The Genographic Project. under the leadership of > > geneticist, Spencer Wells, its scientist will collect and > > analyze DNA of 100,000 people. By mapping the global > > distribution of genetic markers, they hope to develop a > > detailed picture of humanity's migration out of Africa." > > > > "Wells was a graduate student of population geneticist Luigi > > Luca Cavalli-Sforza, who first linked the disciplines of > > genetics and geography, pioneering what he naturally termed > > "genetic geography." In a landmark letter published in > > Genomics in 1991, Cavalli-Sforza called for a "worldwide > > survey of human genomic diversity" fearing that just as > > science was coming into its own, the populations most in need > > of study were heading toward extinction. The idea transformed > > the Human Genomic Diversity Project (HDGP), a forerunner of > > Wells' effort, and the term "genetic geography" morphed into > > the quotable hybrid "genography." But the HDGP fizzled, and > > the term genography lay dormant until it was revived last > > year. Now, with thousand of participants to date--and its > > share of controversies-the Genographic Project stand to go > > down in history and bring the word genography with it." > > > > This is what was being sold by DNA companies (who have made > > huge bucks off of this project) to numerous Genographic > > Project DNA managers the DNA companies recruited throughout > > the USA. However in order to get people to participate the > > propaganda was changed to "we'll connect you to your family > > with a $99 - 12 marker DNA test." Many SC Web sites were > > posted to this message to recruit people to participate in > > the program. > > > > No one sought to tell people that 12 marker DNA tests could > > connect you to your surname and to many others also who were > > not your kin. The DNA companies started fostering these > > people off on Family DNA Project to take the rein and explain > > that 12 marker DNA tests didn't solve your family > > connectivity problem. The local Genographic Project managers > > continued to recruit people until it became ridiculous, get > > your 12 marker test and connect to your family was the > > message. That is when people, like me, started posting what > > was the truth. It takes collective people in the same family > > with matching family histories and matching DNA markers up to > > 37+ to match up your family lineage and show it is true. > > > > To many little white lies still out there. > > > > In addition this Genographic Project DNA information is > > available publicly who know who else will use it 1) the FBI > > for their criminal data base, 2) the US Government, etc. > > > > So if you really want to use DNA to solve your family > > history problems, just join a your Surname DNA Project and > > work with the people there to get a sufficient data base of > > your family group and you will have a better than even chance > > to solve those brick walls. > > > > If you want some more of our brick wall stories contact > me off line. > > > > God Bless. > > Herb Hendricks > > Retired NASA Physicist > > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks > > Family Association > Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.c<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.c> om<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com>>> > > 1210 Long Meadow DR > > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > > 434 832 7246 > > Major/Smith/Hendricks > > > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu<http://wwwftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu> > <http://wwwftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu<http://wwwftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu>> > > blic/hendricks/> > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > > Digest > SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-D-requ<mailto:SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-D-requ> est@rootsweb.com<mailto:est@rootsweb.com>> > > List > SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L-requ<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L-requ> est@rootsweb.com<mailto:est@rootsweb.com>> > > only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > > No signature/No nothing! > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. 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As I previously stated, I am female. Isn't the "marker" thing associated with Y chromosome DNA? I've been involved in genealogy research for nearly 30 years...before most courthouse had copy machines...and certainly before this internet technology or DNA tests. Isn't it amazing how far we have come in such a short while? Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE CR 252 Lake City, FL 32025 mickey@se.rr.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Herbert Hendricks [mailto:Herb_316@msn.com] > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 8:19 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the > Initiators > > Dear Mildred, > > Just what I have been saying. > > You need a DNA data base of your surname, not just one test. > > Many DNA participants. The more the better. > > A single test for you from the Genographic Project does no > good by itself other than gives other people information on > your origin back in time. This is not totally sufficient and true. > > You will find that this 12 marker test also is not sufficient > to track your origin. You need an SNP test and a deep clades > test and if there is a data base of people to match to there > maybe you can track where your family came from back in time. > No guarantee. > > I just did this and I have a unique Haplotype which has no > traceable ancestors back into the last ice age that have been > mapped at this time. > > Doesn't solve your family history problem. A single DNA test > does absolutely no good. > > You also need independently acquired family histories > obtained through research for each surname DNA participant. > Any good DNA Project Administrator will tell you this. > > My postings have been to clarify this, as a lot of the > Genogrphic Project managers do not do this. > > Your conclusions valid. > > > Herb Hendricks > Retired NASA Physicist > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks > Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> > 1210 Long Meadow DR > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > 434 832 7246 > Major/Smith/Hendricks > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu > blic/hendricks/> > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mickey Fournier<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com> > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:13 PM > Subject: RE: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by > the Initiators > > > I sent my DNA to the Genographic project because > > 1) I think it is a very worthwhile undertaking. Yes, I > know they are using > my money to test DNA of the few remaining indigenous people > but that's fine > with me. If they don't do it now, those populations will > have just blended > in with the rest of us. > > 2) You can transfer your DNA to FamilyTreeDNA and pay for > extra "markers" if > that is applicable. The 12 marker test is $129 or more > through most of the > surname groups and $99 through NG. I am female so I don't > have that doesn't > apply to me. > > 3) They go overboard with privacy. They send you a kit > with a number and > that number is the only thing that identifies your DNA. If > you lose it, you > are out of luck. And, who's to say the FBI won't be able > to obtain your DNA > from you surnman project. It would surely be a whole lot > easier to identify > you!! > > 4) If you want to break down your brick walls, you need a > LOT more than a > DNA test! > > Mildred "Mickey" Fournier > 1730 SE CR 252 > Lake City, FL 32025 > mickey@se.rr.com<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com> > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Herbert Hendricks [mailto:Herb_316@msn.com] > > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:58 PM > > To: > SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > > Subject: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the > Initiators > > > > To All, > > > > Please read the following quote: > > > > "Last year, in April (2005) the National Geographic Society > > threw its weight behind a distinctly 21st-century mapping > > effort: The Genographic Project. under the leadership of > > geneticist, Spencer Wells, its scientist will collect and > > analyze DNA of 100,000 people. By mapping the global > > distribution of genetic markers, they hope to develop a > > detailed picture of humanity's migration out of Africa." > > > > "Wells was a graduate student of population geneticist Luigi > > Luca Cavalli-Sforza, who first linked the disciplines of > > genetics and geography, pioneering what he naturally termed > > "genetic geography." In a landmark letter published in > > Genomics in 1991, Cavalli-Sforza called for a "worldwide > > survey of human genomic diversity" fearing that just as > > science was coming into its own, the populations most in need > > of study were heading toward extinction. The idea transformed > > the Human Genomic Diversity Project (HDGP), a forerunner of > > Wells' effort, and the term "genetic geography" morphed into > > the quotable hybrid "genography." But the HDGP fizzled, and > > the term genography lay dormant until it was revived last > > year. Now, with thousand of participants to date--and its > > share of controversies-the Genographic Project stand to go > > down in history and bring the word genography with it." > > > > This is what was being sold by DNA companies (who have made > > huge bucks off of this project) to numerous Genographic > > Project DNA managers the DNA companies recruited throughout > > the USA. However in order to get people to participate the > > propaganda was changed to "we'll connect you to your family > > with a $99 - 12 marker DNA test." Many SC Web sites were > > posted to this message to recruit people to participate in > > the program. > > > > No one sought to tell people that 12 marker DNA tests could > > connect you to your surname and to many others also who were > > not your kin. The DNA companies started fostering these > > people off on Family DNA Project to take the rein and explain > > that 12 marker DNA tests didn't solve your family > > connectivity problem. The local Genographic Project managers > > continued to recruit people until it became ridiculous, get > > your 12 marker test and connect to your family was the > > message. That is when people, like me, started posting what > > was the truth. It takes collective people in the same family > > with matching family histories and matching DNA markers up to > > 37+ to match up your family lineage and show it is true. > > > > To many little white lies still out there. > > > > In addition this Genographic Project DNA information is > > available publicly who know who else will use it 1) the FBI > > for their criminal data base, 2) the US Government, etc. > > > > So if you really want to use DNA to solve your family > > history problems, just join a your Surname DNA Project and > > work with the people there to get a sufficient data base of > > your family group and you will have a better than even chance > > to solve those brick walls. > > > > If you want some more of our brick wall stories contact > me off line. > > > > God Bless. > > Herb Hendricks > > Retired NASA Physicist > > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks > > Family Association > Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.c om<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com>> > > 1210 Long Meadow DR > > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > > 434 832 7246 > > Major/Smith/Hendricks > > > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu > <http://wwwftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu> > > blic/hendricks/> > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > > Digest > SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-D-requ est@rootsweb.com> > > List > SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L-requ est@rootsweb.com> > > only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > > No signature/No nothing! > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. 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Dear Mildred, Just what I have been saying. You need a DNA data base of your surname, not just one test. Many DNA participants. The more the better. A single test for you from the Genographic Project does no good by itself other than gives other people information on your origin back in time. This is not totally sufficient and true. You will find that this 12 marker test also is not sufficient to track your origin. You need an SNP test and a deep clades test and if there is a data base of people to match to there maybe you can track where your family came from back in time. No guarantee. I just did this and I have a unique Haplotype which has no traceable ancestors back into the last ice age that have been mapped at this time. Doesn't solve your family history problem. A single DNA test does absolutely no good. You also need independently acquired family histories obtained through research for each surname DNA participant. Any good DNA Project Administrator will tell you this. My postings have been to clarify this, as a lot of the Genogrphic Project managers do not do this. Your conclusions valid. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: Mickey Fournier<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com> To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 7:13 PM Subject: RE: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the Initiators I sent my DNA to the Genographic project because 1) I think it is a very worthwhile undertaking. Yes, I know they are using my money to test DNA of the few remaining indigenous people but that's fine with me. If they don't do it now, those populations will have just blended in with the rest of us. 2) You can transfer your DNA to FamilyTreeDNA and pay for extra "markers" if that is applicable. The 12 marker test is $129 or more through most of the surname groups and $99 through NG. I am female so I don't have that doesn't apply to me. 3) They go overboard with privacy. They send you a kit with a number and that number is the only thing that identifies your DNA. If you lose it, you are out of luck. And, who's to say the FBI won't be able to obtain your DNA from you surnman project. It would surely be a whole lot easier to identify you!! 4) If you want to break down your brick walls, you need a LOT more than a DNA test! Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE CR 252 Lake City, FL 32025 mickey@se.rr.com<mailto:mickey@se.rr.com> > -----Original Message----- > From: Herbert Hendricks [mailto:Herb_316@msn.com] > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:58 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Subject: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the Initiators > > To All, > > Please read the following quote: > > "Last year, in April (2005) the National Geographic Society > threw its weight behind a distinctly 21st-century mapping > effort: The Genographic Project. under the leadership of > geneticist, Spencer Wells, its scientist will collect and > analyze DNA of 100,000 people. By mapping the global > distribution of genetic markers, they hope to develop a > detailed picture of humanity's migration out of Africa." > > "Wells was a graduate student of population geneticist Luigi > Luca Cavalli-Sforza, who first linked the disciplines of > genetics and geography, pioneering what he naturally termed > "genetic geography." In a landmark letter published in > Genomics in 1991, Cavalli-Sforza called for a "worldwide > survey of human genomic diversity" fearing that just as > science was coming into its own, the populations most in need > of study were heading toward extinction. The idea transformed > the Human Genomic Diversity Project (HDGP), a forerunner of > Wells' effort, and the term "genetic geography" morphed into > the quotable hybrid "genography." But the HDGP fizzled, and > the term genography lay dormant until it was revived last > year. Now, with thousand of participants to date--and its > share of controversies-the Genographic Project stand to go > down in history and bring the word genography with it." > > This is what was being sold by DNA companies (who have made > huge bucks off of this project) to numerous Genographic > Project DNA managers the DNA companies recruited throughout > the USA. However in order to get people to participate the > propaganda was changed to "we'll connect you to your family > with a $99 - 12 marker DNA test." Many SC Web sites were > posted to this message to recruit people to participate in > the program. > > No one sought to tell people that 12 marker DNA tests could > connect you to your surname and to many others also who were > not your kin. The DNA companies started fostering these > people off on Family DNA Project to take the rein and explain > that 12 marker DNA tests didn't solve your family > connectivity problem. The local Genographic Project managers > continued to recruit people until it became ridiculous, get > your 12 marker test and connect to your family was the > message. That is when people, like me, started posting what > was the truth. It takes collective people in the same family > with matching family histories and matching DNA markers up to > 37+ to match up your family lineage and show it is true. > > To many little white lies still out there. > > In addition this Genographic Project DNA information is > available publicly who know who else will use it 1) the FBI > for their criminal data base, 2) the US Government, etc. > > So if you really want to use DNA to solve your family > history problems, just join a your Surname DNA Project and > work with the people there to get a sufficient data base of > your family group and you will have a better than even chance > to solve those brick walls. > > If you want some more of our brick wall stories contact me off line. > > God Bless. > Herb Hendricks > Retired NASA Physicist > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks > Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com>> > 1210 Long Meadow DR > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > 434 832 7246 > Major/Smith/Hendricks > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu<http://wwwftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu> > blic/hendricks/> > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > Digest SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com> > List SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com> > only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > No signature/No nothing! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. 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Hi Elaine, http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/ Searchable data base of some records - http://www.archivesindex.sc.gov/ Scanned online documents - http://www.state.sc.us/scdah/pilotintro.htm They have lots of records including microfilms of most existing SC land records at the archives - 8301 Parklane Road Columbia, SC 29223 Telephone: (803) 896-6100 8:45 a.m. to 4:45 p.m. Monday through Friday Due to budget cutbacks, they are no longer open on Saturdays. However, the Friends of the Archives uses it's membership fees to pay for it to be open for members only, the second Saturday of the month. http://www.palmettohistory.org/ Ray Elaine Steere wrote: > Can anyone tell me what records are on-line in SC ? > > If so, other than census, where are they? > > I just spent hours at the Library of Va. happily reading original land > records. Does SC have that too? > > Elaine

Hi Mickey, So far, we have had 3 men who join the Genographic project transfer their 12 marker test results to the our surname project. I welcomed them with open arms, and recommended that they participate in the free Sorenson project so we can get additional DNA data for them. One of the men had a unique 12 marker haplotype which had at least a 3 genetic distance to all the other 51 members of our project. If we ever find anyone who matches his 12 markers, it will most likely be someone from his close family. He doesn't want to spend any more money on testing and is not in a hurry for the results so he is submitting a sample to Sorenson. The other two men fell into our most popular group with a lot of matches or near matches. Again, one is not in a hurry and selected to go the free Sorenson route. The third man is in a hurry so he chose to purchase the FTDNA 37-marker test as well as submit a sample to Sorenson for their free test. In the end, he will have data for 48 markers. BTW, this man had a mutation in the marker 389i which is identical to that for a man who is a member of a family described in an old book on our surname. They are the only two in our project who have this mutation. This points him in a new direction searching for his brick wall. Bruce Baird In a message dated 2/20/2006 6:14:32 PM Central Standard Time, mickey@se.rr.com writes: I sent my DNA to the Genographic project because 1) I think it is a very worthwhile undertaking. Yes, I know they are using my money to test DNA of the few remaining indigenous people but that's fine with me. If they don't do it now, those populations will have just blended in with the rest of us. 2) You can transfer your DNA to FamilyTreeDNA and pay for extra "markers" if that is applicable. The 12 marker test is $129 or more through most of the surname groups and $99 through NG. I am female so I don't have that doesn't apply to me. 3) They go overboard with privacy. They send you a kit with a number and that number is the only thing that identifies your DNA. If you lose it, you are out of luck. And, who's to say the FBI won't be able to obtain your DNA from you surnman project. It would surely be a whole lot easier to identify you!! 4) If you want to break down your brick walls, you need a LOT more than a DNA test! Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE CR 252 Lake City, FL 32025

I sent my DNA to the Genographic project because 1) I think it is a very worthwhile undertaking. Yes, I know they are using my money to test DNA of the few remaining indigenous people but that's fine with me. If they don't do it now, those populations will have just blended in with the rest of us. 2) You can transfer your DNA to FamilyTreeDNA and pay for extra "markers" if that is applicable. The 12 marker test is $129 or more through most of the surname groups and $99 through NG. I am female so I don't have that doesn't apply to me. 3) They go overboard with privacy. They send you a kit with a number and that number is the only thing that identifies your DNA. If you lose it, you are out of luck. And, who's to say the FBI won't be able to obtain your DNA from you surnman project. It would surely be a whole lot easier to identify you!! 4) If you want to break down your brick walls, you need a LOT more than a DNA test! Mildred "Mickey" Fournier 1730 SE CR 252 Lake City, FL 32025 mickey@se.rr.com > -----Original Message----- > From: Herbert Hendricks [mailto:Herb_316@msn.com] > Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 6:58 PM > To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SC] The Genographict DNA Project as Seen by the Initiators > > To All, > > Please read the following quote: > > "Last year, in April (2005) the National Geographic Society > threw its weight behind a distinctly 21st-century mapping > effort: The Genographic Project. under the leadership of > geneticist, Spencer Wells, its scientist will collect and > analyze DNA of 100,000 people. By mapping the global > distribution of genetic markers, they hope to develop a > detailed picture of humanity's migration out of Africa." > > "Wells was a graduate student of population geneticist Luigi > Luca Cavalli-Sforza, who first linked the disciplines of > genetics and geography, pioneering what he naturally termed > "genetic geography." In a landmark letter published in > Genomics in 1991, Cavalli-Sforza called for a "worldwide > survey of human genomic diversity" fearing that just as > science was coming into its own, the populations most in need > of study were heading toward extinction. The idea transformed > the Human Genomic Diversity Project (HDGP), a forerunner of > Wells' effort, and the term "genetic geography" morphed into > the quotable hybrid "genography." But the HDGP fizzled, and > the term genography lay dormant until it was revived last > year. Now, with thousand of participants to date--and its > share of controversies-the Genographic Project stand to go > down in history and bring the word genography with it." > > This is what was being sold by DNA companies (who have made > huge bucks off of this project) to numerous Genographic > Project DNA managers the DNA companies recruited throughout > the USA. However in order to get people to participate the > propaganda was changed to "we'll connect you to your family > with a $99 - 12 marker DNA test." Many SC Web sites were > posted to this message to recruit people to participate in > the program. > > No one sought to tell people that 12 marker DNA tests could > connect you to your surname and to many others also who were > not your kin. The DNA companies started fostering these > people off on Family DNA Project to take the rein and explain > that 12 marker DNA tests didn't solve your family > connectivity problem. The local Genographic Project managers > continued to recruit people until it became ridiculous, get > your 12 marker test and connect to your family was the > message. That is when people, like me, started posting what > was the truth. It takes collective people in the same family > with matching family histories and matching DNA markers up to > 37+ to match up your family lineage and show it is true. > > To many little white lies still out there. > > In addition this Genographic Project DNA information is > available publicly who know who else will use it 1) the FBI > for their criminal data base, 2) the US Government, etc. > > So if you really want to use DNA to solve your family > history problems, just join a your Surname DNA Project and > work with the people there to get a sufficient data base of > your family group and you will have a better than even chance > to solve those brick walls. > > If you want some more of our brick wall stories contact me off line. > > God Bless. > Herb Hendricks > Retired NASA Physicist > Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks > Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> > 1210 Long Meadow DR > Lynchburg, VA 24502 > 434 832 7246 > Major/Smith/Hendricks > http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/pu > blic/hendricks/> > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > Digest SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com > List SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com > only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > No signature/No nothing! > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. 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I have the book Broken Fortunes, South Carolina soldiers, sailors & citizens who died in the service of their county and state in the War for Southern Indenpendence 1861-1865 it list a Name: Donaldson, William McC. Rank: 3rd Cpl. Company: A Regiment: 3rd SCVI Age: not given DS: LS Died: 10/13/1864 Where: Strasburg, VA Why: KIA Buried: nothing listed Source: SA2 (A.S. Salley, Jr., South Carolina Troops in Confederate Service, Volume II (Columbia, SC: The State Co. 1914), KEB (D. Augustus Dickert, History of Kershaw's Brigade... (Newberry, SC.: Albert H. Aull Co., 1899; repr., Dayton, Ohio: The Press of Morningside Bookshop, 1976) I hope this helps someone. Margie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Glo Wells" <glowells@bellsouth.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 5:25 PM Subject: [SC] Historical Society Magazine, July 1, 1901 > Historical Society Magazine, July 1, 1901 > > > > Does anyone know the address for the SC Historical Society? I have been > told there is a listing in the July 1901 issue which lists those that > served > > > in SC 5th Regiment. My Thomas Donaldson enlisted in the SC 3rd Regiment= > on > the same day others were enlisting in the 5th. Later the 3rd merged with > the 5th Regiment. > I shall appreciate help tracking down a copy of that magazine, or a Xerox, > or anything! > Thank you > Gloria Donaldson Wells > gdwells@bellsouth.net > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > To UNSUBSCRIBE > Write SC-Genealogy-L-Request@RootsWeb.com > Plain Text with just the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of letter > Change the "L" to "D" if you have Digest Mode > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > Digest SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com > List SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com > only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > No signature/No nothing! > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

To All, Please read the following quote: "Last year, in April (2005) the National Geographic Society threw its weight behind a distinctly 21st-century mapping effort: The Genographic Project. under the leadership of geneticist, Spencer Wells, its scientist will collect and analyze DNA of 100,000 people. By mapping the global distribution of genetic markers, they hope to develop a detailed picture of humanity's migration out of Africa." "Wells was a graduate student of population geneticist Luigi Luca Cavalli-Sforza, who first linked the disciplines of genetics and geography, pioneering what he naturally termed "genetic geography." In a landmark letter published in Genomics in 1991, Cavalli-Sforza called for a "worldwide survey of human genomic diversity" fearing that just as science was coming into its own, the populations most in need of study were heading toward extinction. The idea transformed the Human Genomic Diversity Project (HDGP), a forerunner of Wells' effort, and the term "genetic geography" morphed into the quotable hybrid "genography." But the HDGP fizzled, and the term genography lay dormant until it was revived last year. Now, with thousand of participants to date--and its share of controversies-the Genographic Project stand to go down in history and bring the word genography with it." This is what was being sold by DNA companies (who have made huge bucks off of this project) to numerous Genographic Project DNA managers the DNA companies recruited throughout the USA. However in order to get people to participate the propaganda was changed to "we'll connect you to your family with a $99 - 12 marker DNA test." Many SC Web sites were posted to this message to recruit people to participate in the program. No one sought to tell people that 12 marker DNA tests could connect you to your surname and to many others also who were not your kin. The DNA companies started fostering these people off on Family DNA Project to take the rein and explain that 12 marker DNA tests didn't solve your family connectivity problem. The local Genographic Project managers continued to recruit people until it became ridiculous, get your 12 marker test and connect to your family was the message. That is when people, like me, started posting what was the truth. It takes collective people in the same family with matching family histories and matching DNA markers up to 37+ to match up your family lineage and show it is true. To many little white lies still out there. In addition this Genographic Project DNA information is available publicly who know who else will use it 1) the FBI for their criminal data base, 2) the US Government, etc. So if you really want to use DNA to solve your family history problems, just join a your Surname DNA Project and work with the people there to get a sufficient data base of your family group and you will have a better than even chance to solve those brick walls. If you want some more of our brick wall stories contact me off line. God Bless. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>

Historical Society Magazine, July 1, 1901 Does anyone know the address for the SC Historical Society? I have been told there is a listing in the July 1901 issue which lists those that served in SC 5th Regiment. My Thomas Donaldson enlisted in the SC 3rd Regiment= on the same day others were enlisting in the 5th. Later the 3rd merged with the 5th Regiment. I shall appreciate help tracking down a copy of that magazine, or a Xerox, or anything! Thank you Gloria Donaldson Wells gdwells@bellsouth.net ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== To UNSUBSCRIBE Write SC-Genealogy-L-Request@RootsWeb.com Plain Text with just the word UNSUBSCRIBE in the body of letter Change the "L" to "D" if you have Digest Mode ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Can anyone tell me what records are on-line in SC ? If so, other than census, where are they? I just spent hours at the Library of Va. happily reading original land records. Does SC have that too? Elaine

Does anyone know the address for the SC Historical Society? =============================================== Gloria, Here is the URL for the historical society. You probably want to send to the attention of Lisa Reams. Best! Toni

Does anyone know the address for the SC Historical Society? I have been told there is a listing in the July 1901 issue which lists those that served in SC 5th Regiment. My Thomas Donaldson enlisted in the SC 3rd Regiment= on the same day others were enlisting in the 5th. Later the 3rd merged with the 5th Regiment. I shall appreciate help tracking down a copy of that magazine, or a Xerox, or anything! Thank you Gloria Donaldson Wells gdwells@bellsouth.net

Dear Carole, You have asked an excellent question. I visited the Laurens DNA site which posts some DNA results for people from Laurens. This is not the way to find about your connections to your family. Why? Nothing ever stands alone. DNA testing and family history needs something to compare to. DNA testing is only valid when you have a surname connections project of similar surnames with hopefully matching DNA profiles to compare to. We have 22 different Hendricks groups and this illustrates what I am saying. Generally surname Projects are slightly less expensive to join and get DNA testing. Generally surnames have diverse family connections. Joining a group will generally get you some one who knows something more than a posting about your surname. In our case we have about 80 years of documented land deeds, grants, wills, church records plus numerous lineages. We also provide free 3 family history CDs which are useful for searching out your family records. So what to do? As a start you can go to your browser like Google or Yahoo and plug in DNA testing. This will pull up a lot of stuff. However there are a number of DNA testing companies and this is what to look for. I will give you an example, Family Tree DNA is found at (Not a necessary advertizement for FTDNA) http://www.familytreedna.com/surname.asp<http://www.familytreedna.com/surname.asp>. This web site gives you a place where a large number of surnames are posted. Scroll down to the alphabet listing of projects click on the first letter of your surname. This will bring up a list of surnames of the beginning letter of your surname. Scroll until you find your surname and click on it. This takes you to a page that begins to give information about your surname. Depending upon the knowledge and dedication of the Group Administrator you will begin to connect to your family. There is also a link to the person doing the coordination of the project. We and numerous other DNA Projects have learned the hard way overtime to do 37+ marker DNA testing. Why? Visiting such sites as Charles Kerchner (http://www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm there<http://www.kerchner.com/dna-info.htm%20there> is excellent documentation that shows you why. To separate out people 12 and 25 marker testing often gives false positive matches which lead people to make errors in connections to family members. 37+ marker testing also helps separate out different members in family groups. So if you are really serious about DNA the above is a beginning. However you need to search out male members of your family for Y-DNA testing as the genes are passed for a given surname down form father to son to grandson forever. Getting other members of your surnames, once your know your family's DNA profile, will establish a DNA base profile in which to compare others to your particular surname group. We have a number of good case example. For instance we had three particular groups of Hendricks do DNA testing. 1) back to Daniel Hendrick of MA 1617., 2) A family back to KY 1792 and 3) a family back into Eastern NC 1700. When they saw that all three were beginning to match, one group only did a beginning 12 marker test, then a 25 and 37 test they all began to match. So from 3 different groups at the beginning (one group only 12 markers which wasa mistake at the beginning) they matched into a single Hendrick/s family Group pointing toward Daniel Hendrick of MA b 1617 m 1642 Dorothy Pike, d of Robert Pike Mayflower passenger. Talk about thrilled. Now all this different happen overnight. The Hendricks Family Association had a data base on the Daniel Hendrick group and also what some know as the Jabesh Hendricks or Francis Hendrickson family of Eastern NC. All this helped put the family together for DNA does not stand alone it stands with family history records. The whole story is more complicated but it shows you what can happen in a family surname project where you have good participation for DNA testing and good family records. Working with dedicated people who search their families histories and getting good DNA participation form multiple given surname families is what makes success. Standing alone somewhere just hoping and waiting will not solve your project's problems. Participation and working with family members to bring together your family history will solve many a problem. God Bless. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/> ----- Original Message ----- From: EASYSKIER@aol.com<mailto:EASYSKIER@aol.com> To: Herb_316@msn.com<mailto:Herb_316@msn.com> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 3:38 AM Subject: Re: [SCLAUREN] A True DNA Story Hi Herb......I am interested in doing a DNA study for my family. What would be a good site to find out more about the testing, the cost and the best place to have it done? Carole

I have been trying to learn more about the Snipes Photography Studio that was in Pelzer, SC around the late 1800s until sometime in the 1900s. Does anyone know what might have happened to any pictures that were taken there? The Snipes Studio seems to be the location that my family used for family photographs. Teddie Griffith

Looking for Brothers and sisters and father and mother of D. B. J. Craig b ca 1815-1825 SC m Catherine Smith b ca 1815-1825 daughter of Aaron Smith (son of Jonathon Smith m ......Guyton from York Co., SC) and Elizabeth Smith d of Nimrod Smith and Lettice Nicole Wyatt. Guyton Smith, Arron Smith and the Craig Family were from the Pendleton, SC area of what is now Anderson Co., SC beginning latter part of 1790s and onward. Some of their families still live in this same area. Herb Hendricks Retired NASA Physicist Hendricks DNA Project Group Administrator Secretary Hendricks Family Association Herb_316@MSN.com<mailto:Herb_316@MSN.com> 1210 Long Meadow DR Lynchburg, VA 24502 434 832 7246 Major/Smith/Hendricks http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/<http://www.ftdna.com/public/hendricks/>

Hi, I haven't been able to fill in the blanks on some of my family members in South Carolina. Some of them I don't know if they are dead or alive. If anyone knows any information on any of these I would greatly appreciate it. If anyone needs any more information on these individuals I am also willing to share what I have. Rosanina Perry (Unsure of her maiden name (b) ___1860 (d)________ Unknown Perry married to Rosanina. (b) ____ (d) ____ John Perry (b) ____1894 (d) __________ Thanks, Anna Adams

I would also like this information ! My POUs left Orangeburg and lived in Alabama and Mississippi.I would like to know when they left and any details of the trip...such as: what families went with them. Many years ago my mother told me that our family lost a young girl,who fell from the wagon and,whose mother refused to go any further. Has anyone else heard such a story? Blessings, Marjory in Charleston

Please excuse the double posting. I am interested in following out more about the wagon train that left Lexington, South Carolina and traveled to Alabama & Mississippi after the 1850's. If anyone can share any information on this migration or tell me places to look for more information on the trip (books, letters sent home during this period, etc.), I would be deeply indebted to you. I appreciate your taking the time to help me find out more information. Thank you, Hope O. Creasman