Hi, Carol, Its not a silly question. I have heard of FT. Worth, TX but could not give anyone directions there. Camden is the oldest inland town in SC, founded in 1733. It is a wonderfully historic place where several Revolutionary War battles were fought, and where Lord Cornwallis had his troops. We have a Rev. Park here that holds a wonderful historic Battle reenactment each year. The Joseph Kershaw house, which was taken over by Lord Cornwallis has been rebuilt on its original foundation, and is a magnificent house. All sorts of old homes. We are located about 30 miles NE of Columbia, SC the capital of the state, right off of Interstate 20. Try the web site for Camden Archives www.mindspring.com/~camdenarchives/index.html I don't know if it will let you link to the Chamber of Commerce info. from that page or not. The Camden Archives is housed in one of the few remaining original Cornegie Libraries built in 1915. If you get out this way, come see Camden. Billie Jones Camden, SC tjones@camden.net ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Drexel" <gdrexel1@airmail.net> To: "Lee and Billie Jones" <tjones@camden.net> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [SC] Newspaper microfilm > Billie, I know this is a silly question, but where is Camden, S.C.? > Carole in Fort Worth, TX >

[Listed names then put comments on the ones that seem to match someone in my file. - If you can ID any of the others why not do a reply all and add your comments and signature for someone else to share. Billie Jones Camden, SC tjones@camden.net CENSUS: 1820 Edgefield Co. SC p. 97 Catagories: m<10; m10<16; m 10<18; m 16<26; m26<45; ,45+ f<10; f 10<16; f 16<26; f26<45; f 45+ Richard Perry 020010-30200 Benjamin Hill 000100-00100 James Clegg 10010-101?0 (not sure it is a number here, if so, not readable. Thomas Youngblood - 1820 Edgefield Co, SC Census, p. 97; Thomas Youngblood is 26<45 and his family contains the following individuals besides himself:3m<10; 1f<10; 1 f 26<45. [From the list of children and birthdays, below, something is wrong, as there should have been at least 2 more children in the census born before 1820 if the birthdates are correct. No source data given for the dates of the children on the web site Wm. R. Youngblood - William R. Youngbood 26<45; 1f 10<16; 1f 16<26. [I have seen reference to the fact that he had no children. If that is true, then who is the younger female? Joseph Minter - 300110-01010 william Strum 320101-01010 David Taylor 100100-00110 John Mitchell - 1820 Edgefield Co. census, p. 97 John Mitchell household living next to Joseph M. Holloway and on the same page with Jordan, brothers of Keziah Holloway Mitchell, wife of John. Living in the household were: 3m 10<16; 1m 26<45; 1m 45+; 1f<10; 1f 16<26; 1f 45+ Joseph M. Holloway - Speculated to be a son of Reuben Holloway - CENSUS: 1820 Edgefield Col SC, p. 97: 1m 18<26; 1f 16<26. ***Note: the census record puts his birth at 1795 - 1802. That seems late comparing the dates to the rest of the children., so I would consider this speculation at best until more evidence is found. He is not listed with other children of Reuben Holloway on Petition in 1806, but is included on many lists as a possible son. Elijah Smith 130011-20010 Thomas Hill - may be the son of Jesse Hill VA to SC. 1m<5; 1m 26<45; (a mark under f 10<16, but it doesn't look like a number>); 1f 26<26. Jordan Holloway m Mary Reardon. Males Females 1 > 45 1 > 45 1 18-26 2 10<16 1 10<16 1<10 1<10 Charles Parrot 200001-21010 John Polatty - I have no PROOF that they are one in the same: 1m<5; 1m 45+; 1f 16<26; 1f 45+ this family lives 2 doors down from Jordan and Mary Reardon Holloway, and next door to William McDaniel. If it is this John, he married Barbara Maria Flick. William McDaniel - age 26<45; with 2m<5; 2f<5; 1f 16<26. MAY BE?? the father of Charlotte (Charity) McDaniel who married Benjamin Lovelace Raborn ca 1838. Jeremiah {Cash/Cook Carl?) 000010-30010 William Stedham - 200110-20010 John Adams 1m<10; 1m 10<16; 1m 26<45; 5f<10; 2f 26<45. - I have several John Adams, but no dates for them, so cannot place him with a family. William Runnels 211010-11010 David Ouzts 000011-20010 Conrad Lowry, Jr. 100100-10101 John George 000010-10101 John C. Rearden - 010110-10100 [Speculation - possibly a brother to Mary Reardon m Jordan Holloway who was born ca 1777. Ezekiel Blocksome - 121001-10101 James Munday 211101-21110 Thomas Bullock 210010-31010 William Dawson 120001-31001 John Terry 000010-20010 Joshua Jackson 000001-00101 George Darm (this is how it was spelled, but could it be George Dorn?) If so, could this be George Dorn who married Jane Head? I have a list of his children but dates for only one who is a male born 1816. Census info: 200010-10100 John Miller 010010-11010 Caleb Holloway - I cannot determine which Caleb this is, as I have so many w/o dates. Census: 1m 10<16; 1m 18<26; 1m 45+; 1f 16<26; 1f 45+. So this Caleb is born before 1775. I have two that fit that info. Jacob Harling: 3m<10; 1m 10<16; 1m 18<26; 1m 26<45 1f<10, 1f 10<16; 1f 26<45. I have a Jacob Harling in my files but the birthdate I have from HC Ouzts' Harling file is 1767. However, I have that Jacob was a brother to one John Harling and John was born May 20, 1773. Some of this is from the Dorn/Faulkner work with Watson Dorn earlier this winter. George Quhdebumb (Quattlebaum) 220010-10000 Bates Rhen 000100-00100 Eli Bradberry (copy cut off here. several more on the page that would not fit.

Got some information for someone looking for some Poseys. Fixing to throw away the notes, and can't remember if I posted them to the site or not. If so, sorry for the repetition; if not, hope this helps someone. Frances Posey - Will, Orangeburg Dist. SC 19 Nov 1787 Son Absalom Posey 10 sheep dau. Phebe Hollingworth 1 shilling dau. Nancy Smith 4 cows and calves dau. Sally Martin dau. Gugay Shuriss Sukey Posey ( I promise that is what it said) dau. Mary Posey Son Benjamin Son Far Milly Posey, his wife Wife and son Absalom Ex/Exrx & my true friend Benjamin Hollingworth. Witness: Elijah Walker, Benj. Posey, Wm & James McCarter Proved 14 Jan 1788 Filed Book A, p. 5 Source: One of the books in the SCDAR Library collection at the Camden Archives, Camden, SC Forgot to write down the names, but it is book 36, p. 62 Billie Jones Camden, SC tjones@camden.net

Thank you for the info Angie. Eldon -----Original Message----- From: Angie Rayfield [mailto:carolinaroots@angiesplace.behosting.com] Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:47 PM To: SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC] Who drafted that deed? At 07:36 PM 5/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Who actually drafted deeds? Did the seller draft the deed and sign it >or did a clerk draft the deed and the seller simply sign (or place his >mark) as the seller? >I have several deeds for Pendleton Dist SC for the 1790s and two deeds >for Hall Co GA in 1825 and it appears to my untrained eye that the >handwriting that drafted the body of the deed(s) is the same handwriting >of the seller's signature. I would have expected this when the seller >signed with a mark but in these cases the seller actually signed with a >signature. With many of the deeds and such that I've found, the document at the courthouse isn't actually the original. This has seemed to be especially true with items found in the deed books (or will books, for that matter). Instead, it's a copy of the original, probably written by a clerk, that was kept on file. I can only imagine how thrilled some of the clerks would be today with the miracle of the photocopier -- just think, as many copies as you want with the press of a button, instead of writing it over and over and over.... Angie ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== To contact the list maintainer SC-Genealogy-admin@rootsweb.com

Lynda, I think this is enough on the subject. Thanks, Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: lynda wilson <lwilson@life.edu> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 3:15 PM Subject: Re: [SC] Sharing > Sorry Audrey - guess I did not make myself clear. When the > person who is doing the lookups sends the answer to the list > ALONG with the original request, there will only be one message - > not TWO to read. I was just thinking of saving space in the > archives by handling it all in one message - not TWO. > If you still do not understand, I will try to explain it again. > And yes, I have done research before computers also. > > Lynda > > "Audrey E. Pool" wrote: > > > Hi Lynda, > > > > There would be no point in having Lists if we didn't post to same. When > > families are migrating together as they did during the 1700s and 1800s, > > probably before, intermarriages show many direct lines we wouldn't have > > otherwise. > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy research > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ >

Went down to the Camden Archives yesterday to work on some death certificates, and found that they have already gotten the 1930 census records. So add another feather to their cap. Billie Jones Camden, SC tjones@camden.net

Sorry Audrey - guess I did not make myself clear. When the person who is doing the lookups sends the answer to the list ALONG with the original request, there will only be one message - not TWO to read. I was just thinking of saving space in the archives by handling it all in one message - not TWO. If you still do not understand, I will try to explain it again. And yes, I have done research before computers also. Lynda "Audrey E. Pool" wrote: > Hi Lynda, > > There would be no point in having Lists if we didn't post to same. When > families are migrating together as they did during the 1700s and 1800s, > probably before, intermarriages show many direct lines we wouldn't have > otherwise.

In the 1910 Census for Walton County Fl, is a Column Heading that says "Number of Farm Schedule." Can anyone tell me the description for number 19 in that Column, or the source that I can find for myself. Thanks for any help Ernest T. Cribb Cantonment ecribb1@aol.com

At 07:36 PM 5/29/2002 -0400, you wrote: >Who actually drafted deeds? Did the seller draft the deed and sign it >or did a clerk draft the deed and the seller simply sign (or place his >mark) as the seller? >I have several deeds for Pendleton Dist SC for the 1790s and two deeds >for Hall Co GA in 1825 and it appears to my untrained eye that the >handwriting that drafted the body of the deed(s) is the same handwriting >of the seller's signature. I would have expected this when the seller >signed with a mark but in these cases the seller actually signed with a >signature. With many of the deeds and such that I've found, the document at the courthouse isn't actually the original. This has seemed to be especially true with items found in the deed books (or will books, for that matter). Instead, it's a copy of the original, probably written by a clerk, that was kept on file. I can only imagine how thrilled some of the clerks would be today with the miracle of the photocopier -- just think, as many copies as you want with the press of a button, instead of writing it over and over and over.... Angie

Would've sent names but didn't know if you needed. Please let me know if you need locations, dates, etc on any or all of the following Gay names: Addie Gregory, Bessie Courtney, Elizabeth, Judy, Lucille, Madge, Mamme M., Mary A., Mary Lee, May E., Minor Courtney, Robert Bruce, S.L., Thomas A. and William B. Hope this helps. donna in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hughes" <kinseeker4@earthlink.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: Re: [SC] Will Indexes for Darlington County-GAY > > > Bill, > > Missed the Gay names you're looking for. Don't know if this is helpful or > > not but there are several Gays listed in Mr. Pigg's Chesterfield County > > Cemetery Survey. Could they be links? > > donna in TX > > Donna, > Well, I haven't seen this survey, so I can only guess that it ''might'' be > of some use. Anybody out there have this? Thanks for the tip. > Bill > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy research > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ >

Hi Lynda, There would be no point in having Lists if we didn't post to same. When families are migrating together as they did during the 1700s and 1800s, probably before, intermarriages show many direct lines we wouldn't have otherwise. Before computers, I did research the hard, but after computers there is so much better and faster information...but, only if we share. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: lynda wilson <lwilson@life.edu> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 8:29 AM Subject: Re: [SC] Lookups > It would save space and time if the people would make the > request directly to the person doing the lookups and then > ONLY the answer with the original message would be posted > to the list. That way we would only have to read one message > instead of two. Just a thought. L > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Need some help getting started with irc (INTERNET RELAY CHAT)? > Try: http://home.flash.net/~gen4m/ >

It would save space and time if the people would make the request directly to the person doing the lookups and then ONLY the answer with the original message would be posted to the list. That way we would only have to read one message instead of two. Just a thought. L

I am researching the ancestors and descendants of Thomas H Watts b 1805 and Rosa J Helton b 1838. Thos H Watts was s/o Thomas Watts and Lavinia Huntley of Anson and Union Co, NC. Rosa's parents are unknown to me at this time. They were married in 1859. Due to the age difference between the 2 of them and the fact that most men married before the age of 54, I suspect that Thomas H Watts may have a previous marriage. Thos and Rosa lived in the Mt Croghan section of Chesterfield Co. Their descendants went to other parts of Chesterfield Co, as well as York Co, Lancaster Co, Arkansas, and other places. All info on these folks and/or their ancestors and descendants will be appreciated! Do you connect to any of these people or their descendants? Do you have Watts connections but don't know their ancestry? If so, I would love to hear from you, and will try to help you connect to your Watts roots. There are lots of Wattses and families descended from Wattses in Chesterfield County, so let's try to get our families connected! Cynthia Porcher, researching Watts, Beaver, Blakeney, Pigg, Evans, Bivens, Hamilton, Marsh, Maske, and others Children of Thomas H Watts and Rosa J Helton ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ 1 M: John Dudley WATTS Birth: 8 Oct 1859 Death: 7 Oct 1929 Spouse: Saphronia ³Fronnie² MANGUM Marriage: 12 Dec 1882 ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ 2 F: Mary Elizabeth "Mollie" WATTS Birth: 25 Jun 1860 Pageland, Chesterfield Co, SC Death: 25 Apr 1924 Rock Hill, York Co, SC Spouse: James Owen GREGORY ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ 3 M: William Thomas WATTS Birth: 23 Sep 1863 ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ 4 F: Anna Lillian "Annie" WATTS Birth: 8 Jun 1865 Death: 7 Mar 1933 Arkansas Spouse: Jesse Clayton CHISOLM Marriage: ca 1882 Chesterfield Co, SC ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ 5 M: Townly Blair "Town" WATTS (My Ggrandfather!) Birth: 18 Mar 1869 Death: 26 May 1962 Spouse: Hennie "Babe" EVANS Marriage: ca 1890 Spouse: Ida Rilla ALLEN ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ 6 M: Jerome Darrow "Rome" WATTS Birth: 20 Feb 1870 Chesterfield Co, SC Death: 14 Apr 1954 Rock Hill, York Co, SC Spouse: Ida PIGG Spouse: Ella L HANCOCK Marriage: 10 Aug 1905 ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ 7 F: Ida Rose WATTS (Died in infancy) Birth: 25 Jan 1873 Death: 28 Oct 1874 ‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹‹ 8 M: Gary Henry WATTS Birth: 15 Aug 1875 Death: 18 Mar 1952 Spouse: Mary Elizabeth "Bessie" WATTS Spouse: Almetta HONEYCUTT

> Bill, > Missed the Gay names you're looking for. Don't know if this is helpful or > not but there are several Gays listed in Mr. Pigg's Chesterfield County > Cemetery Survey. Could they be links? > donna in TX Donna, Well, I haven't seen this survey, so I can only guess that it ''might'' be of some use. Anybody out there have this? Thanks for the tip. Bill

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Bill, Missed the Gay names you're looking for. Don't know if this is helpful or not but there are several Gays listed in Mr. Pigg's Chesterfield County Cemetery Survey. Could they be links? donna in TX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Hughes" <kinseeker4@earthlink.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 8:26 PM Subject: Re: [SC] Will Indexes for Darlington County-GAY > > Bill, > > There are two wills for GAY listed in my Index: > > GAY, Josiah Book 1, page 168 MRL > > GAY, Samuel Book 1 page 230 YRK > > None for Darlington. Audrey > > Audrey, > Thank you very much for checking. I guess that rules out finding them that > way. Them was some sneaky little fellers. As they say, the thot plickens. > Have a great evening. > Bill > > p.s. - anybody got any kind of land or court records that might mention > them? I'm getting really desperate...........been looking for these folks > for nearly ten years now. > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Thank you RootsWeb for all the genealogy resources you have given us! >

Who actually drafted deeds? Did the seller draft the deed and sign it or did a clerk draft the deed and the seller simply sign (or place his mark) as the seller? I have several deeds for Pendleton Dist SC for the 1790s and two deeds for Hall Co GA in 1825 and it appears to my untrained eye that the handwriting that drafted the body of the deed(s) is the same handwriting of the seller's signature. I would have expected this when the seller signed with a mark but in these cases the seller actually signed with a signature. Thank you, Eldon mailto:ewade@cfl.rr.com Researching:  WADE and HAMES - SC, GA, AL

This records is from Lunenburg County, VA, a book entitled "Sunlight on the Southside by L. C. BELL. The people are in order of how they lived, sometimes in the same household. All of these families intermarried and most migrated to Upper SC by the 1790 census. Note the LEWIS estate. Was John Lewis BOZEMAN/BOASMAN related to this LEWIS line? William, Mary and John POOL are PETTYPOOLS. Mary was a COLWELL and not our line. (aep) It is said we are desdendants of Adam POOL. He and his family migrated to Fairfield, SC area by 1768. Audrey "SUNLIGHT ON THE SOUTHSIDE" by: L. C. BELL Yr Tithes Lunenburg Co., VA 1752 Isaac MITCHELL 2 George HOLLOWAY 3 John WATSON Wm WATSON John WATSON, Jr 3 Wm POOLE Robert POOLE William POOLE Adam POOLE 4 1751 William POOLE 2 William RHODES 1 William POOL Robert POOL William POOL, Jr 3 1749 William POOLE Robert POOLE William POOLE, Jr 3 George HOLLOWAY 3 1748 John WATSON 1 George HOLLOWAY 3 William POOLE & Robert POOLE 2 (four all together in order copied) Isaac MITCHELL 1 Jacob MITCHELL 1 John MITCHELL 1 1764 William POOL 340 acres, page 265 Adam POOL Wm TAYLOR 3 50 acres, page 255 William POOL, Jr 2 50 acres, page 255 John EARL James HOLLOWAY George HOLLOWAY 5 100 acres, page 250 William HOLLOWAY 1 340 acres, page 251 X John BOASMAN 2 290 acres, page 251 X Note: Susannah HOLLOWAY m. Philemon BOAZMAN s/o John Lewis BOZEMAN of Lunenburg County, VA. (aep) Captain William DAVIS James SHUFFLY William STROUD 13 4, 374 acres, page 254 Note: James Altman POOL m. Tennessee STROUD d/o Alfred W(William?) STROUD b. VA. Thomas PINSON Moses GRIGG 2 150 acres Note: Aaron PINSON s/o Thomas PINSON m. Sarah POOL James LEWIS Estate James HOLLOWAY 15 1, 353 acres, page 254 John NEWTON, Sr 1 George NEWTON 1 William NEWTON 1 Henry NEWTON* 1 Nicholas MAYNARD Henry MITCHELL 6 815 acres, page 254 William WATSON 1 Isaac WATSON 4 463 acres, page 259 *Note: Mary POOL & Willis HOLLOWAY's dau married a NEWTON. (aep) (*whites over 21) negroes Tythes-# whites 1783 Mary POOL John POOL 3 3 William POOL 1 4 7 1776 William POOLE 1 1782 MECKLENBURG COUNTY, VA: Walter POOLE 7 whites William POOLE 7 whites 1 black Mitchell POOLE 1 white James POOLE 12 whites Bennett HOLLOWAY 10 whites Notes for Bennett HOLLOWAY 1. Listed as having Wiley and 3 girls 2. In "Martha's Notes": Bennett HOLLOWAY, b. 22 October 1738. Martha MOORE is a cousin of Ray W. POOL, Madera, CA - Audrey POOL, researcher. William HOLLOWAY 8 whites and 2 black

> Bill, > There are two wills for GAY listed in my Index: > GAY, Josiah Book 1, page 168 MRL > GAY, Samuel Book 1 page 230 YRK > None for Darlington. Audrey Audrey, Thank you very much for checking. I guess that rules out finding them that way. Them was some sneaky little fellers. As they say, the thot plickens. Have a great evening. Bill p.s. - anybody got any kind of land or court records that might mention them? I'm getting really desperate...........been looking for these folks for nearly ten years now.

Bill, There are two wills for GAY listed in my Index: GAY, Josiah Book 1, page 168 MRL GAY, Samuel Book 1 page 230 YRK None for Darlington. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Hughes <kinseeker4@earthlink.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 29, 2002 12:58 PM Subject: [SC] Will Indexes for Darlington County > Does anybody have, or have access to, any wills and//or will indexes for > Darlington County in the 1790 thru 1830 period? I am looking for any > mention of the surname of GAY in that area. > Thank you. > Bill > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Virus warnings are not welcome on this list. > Remember when writing a query, to always put in DATES & LOCATIONS >