Billie and All, A wonderful book on the Rev War in SC is "Partisans and Redcoats" by Walter Edgar (he's the one who wrote the superb "South Carolina, a History"). Glenna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee and Billie Jones" <tjones@camden.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:40 PM Subject: [SC] An explanation for Tories in SC. > I received the following information, forwarded to me by Rootsweb because it > contained my key words, Edgefield and SC. June Bork's name will be > recognized by researchers of the Burnett family, as she is the author of two > volumes of "The Burnetts and Their Connections." Vol 2, published in 1993, > discusses the Edgefield Co. Burnetts and their ancestors in VA. [I have a > few selected pages, but not the whole book] > > The following info. was very interesting to me, as I had read some > information on the Ninety-Six area and was surprised that so many inland > South Carolinians were Tories. This is a good explanation as to why that > occurred, at least among those of Scottish ancestry. Most of the folks on > the coast were loyal to the Revolution, but inland folks were really > divided. I had never realized that the Revolution pitted families against > families and friends against neighbors before reading a book in from our > public library on the Ninety Six area and the Star Fort. > > Billie Jones > Camden, SC > tjones@camden.net > > Match: Edgefield AND SC > Source: CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L@rootsweb.com > From: "June Bork" <jbbork@hotmail.com> > Subject: [CRR] Oath of Allegiance > > > Remember Bonnie Prince Charley? He probably was the legitimate King > of England, and he was, of course, a Scot. He raised an army who marched > south into England with bagpipes playing, and all the troops in kilts. They > met the English army at a place called Culloden. I may not spell that > correctly, but it is a name often heard around American fireplaces. At the > Battle of Culloden, the English artillery (Scots had none) almost wiped out > the Scots. Prince Charlie fled along with his troops and they were pursued > by English soldiers who massacred so many of the Scots that the English King > called a halt to the slaughter of the Scots. Prisoners were taken of those > who survived the massacre. The English king appeared before the mass of > prisoners and announced that their life would be spared and each of them, > with their families, would be transported to the American colonies, and be > pardoned of the charge of treason. There was one condition to this parole. > Each of the Scots survivors who wished to live must take an oath to never > again take arms against the king of England. A generation later the > American revolution began, and the households of those who had survived > Culloden remembered the oath by which they were free and in the American > colonies. An oath is sacred to a Scot, and their sons and gr-sons honored > the pledge of the man whose word was given that day at the prison camps of > Culloden. > > Where did these few thousand men go when the kings ships brought them to the > colonies. Almost without exception these survivors of Culloden were > delivered to the southern colonies. Many came to North Carolina and to > Virginia, but I think the greatest number came to Georgia and to South > Carolina. > > The early Virginia Tax Recprds around 1776-7 usually gives a list of those > Persons Refusing to take the Oath. Those who refused to take the oath of > allegiance may not have been Tories, but if not, then his grandfather was > one, and he did not wish to take an oath of allegiance which voided the > salvation granted at Culloden. I am not sure about other states in > Virginia, but Henry County, Virginia also levied double taxes on those who > failed to take the oath of allegiance. Acquilla Greer who lived on Smith > River at a place north of Rockcastle. His land fell into Franklin County > when Franklin's boundaries were extended down to the banks of the Smith. He > could not forget that he was American because an English king granted them a > pardon upon taking a greater fealty oath after Culloden. Like so many > Tories, Greers sons changed sides as the Revolution wore on. It pays to be > on the winning side. > > A Scot and a Tory are almost the same one, especially during the early days. > But after a while the Whigs won over most Scots. How many were there? > Georgia was the first of the 13 colonies to fall to the British and they > held it all during the Revolution. From Georgia they sent many regiments > into SC and took it too. The headquarters of Cornwallis was Charleston, a > port city, where the king's ships unloaded many of the survivors of that > terrible day when English cannon almost wiped out the forces of Bonnie > Prince Charlie. > > Since Prince Charlie is somewhat of an American hero, it speaks of the > long-lingering tale of the aftermath of Culloden. > > Historians of the Revolution have always held that in North Carolina, one > third of the population supported the Crown, and they hold that in South > Carolina it was fifty-fifty, and in Georgia there was only one voice and it > was the same voice which took the oath at Culloden. > > I visited a library that had microfilm copies of the Charleston newspapers > of those days and had to get into those old records seeking a report of the > death in Edgefield, South Carolina of my ancestor in 1781. He was hacked to > death by Major William Cunningham (a Scot) from Georgia who commanded a > squadron of Dragoons in His Majesty's Loyal Militia. Those old Charleston > newspapers were full of stories of facy balls and other celebrations of > Loyalist Militia from the Carolinas and Georgia. I never doubted that when > my ancestors were on their way to the Battle of Guilford, they needed no map > to find the place where Cornwallis stood. They could hear the sound of the > pipes in the clear morning air, and those who played the pipes were sons of > Culloden and dwellers in Georgia and the Carolinas. > > The most precious possession of someone migrating a great distance is that > which he keeps in his head. Perhaps they were told of > the voyage in the King's vessels to freedom and forgiveness because they > took an oath to never again take arms against an English king. > > That is all the king ask. All he wished of a Scot was his word and his > pledge. It was that pledge which caused some to turn away from those who > went off to sign the Oath of Allegiance. > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy research > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ >

Hi! I descend through a Sealey/Sealy/Celey who supposedly came through the port of Charleston, SC. This Seyle certainly is just another varient spelling of the same name. I descend through Sealey on the paternal side of my family. That information has been put aside for a number of months as I have been working on the maternal lineages. Off the top of my head I can tell you the following: Sarah Seeley born about 1767 in Burke County, NC, died in 1837 in Burke County, NC, married to Nicholas Chapman. I believe Sarah's father was George Seeley/Sealey (a loyalist...most coastal residents were loyalists) born 1748 in Beaufort County, SC and according to his will died by 1812. He lived in Burke County, NC with his wife Alice. The father of George was said to be Isaac Seley from Charleston, SC. I would be pleased to hear from you if you have any data which matches any of this. We may be related! Shirley DSPW@webtv.net

Is anyone on the list a descendent of the Seyle family? Susan Marshall

I received the following information, forwarded to me by Rootsweb because it contained my key words, Edgefield and SC. June Bork's name will be recognized by researchers of the Burnett family, as she is the author of two volumes of "The Burnetts and Their Connections." Vol 2, published in 1993, discusses the Edgefield Co. Burnetts and their ancestors in VA. [I have a few selected pages, but not the whole book] The following info. was very interesting to me, as I had read some information on the Ninety-Six area and was surprised that so many inland South Carolinians were Tories. This is a good explanation as to why that occurred, at least among those of Scottish ancestry. Most of the folks on the coast were loyal to the Revolution, but inland folks were really divided. I had never realized that the Revolution pitted families against families and friends against neighbors before reading a book in from our public library on the Ninety Six area and the Star Fort. Billie Jones Camden, SC tjones@camden.net Match: Edgefield AND SC Source: CUMBERLAND-RIVER-L@rootsweb.com From: "June Bork" <jbbork@hotmail.com> Subject: [CRR] Oath of Allegiance Remember Bonnie Prince Charley? He probably was the legitimate King of England, and he was, of course, a Scot. He raised an army who marched south into England with bagpipes playing, and all the troops in kilts. They met the English army at a place called Culloden. I may not spell that correctly, but it is a name often heard around American fireplaces. At the Battle of Culloden, the English artillery (Scots had none) almost wiped out the Scots. Prince Charlie fled along with his troops and they were pursued by English soldiers who massacred so many of the Scots that the English King called a halt to the slaughter of the Scots. Prisoners were taken of those who survived the massacre. The English king appeared before the mass of prisoners and announced that their life would be spared and each of them, with their families, would be transported to the American colonies, and be pardoned of the charge of treason. There was one condition to this parole. Each of the Scots survivors who wished to live must take an oath to never again take arms against the king of England. A generation later the American revolution began, and the households of those who had survived Culloden remembered the oath by which they were free and in the American colonies. An oath is sacred to a Scot, and their sons and gr-sons honored the pledge of the man whose word was given that day at the prison camps of Culloden. Where did these few thousand men go when the kings ships brought them to the colonies. Almost without exception these survivors of Culloden were delivered to the southern colonies. Many came to North Carolina and to Virginia, but I think the greatest number came to Georgia and to South Carolina. The early Virginia Tax Recprds around 1776-7 usually gives a list of those Persons Refusing to take the Oath. Those who refused to take the oath of allegiance may not have been Tories, but if not, then his grandfather was one, and he did not wish to take an oath of allegiance which voided the salvation granted at Culloden. I am not sure about other states in Virginia, but Henry County, Virginia also levied double taxes on those who failed to take the oath of allegiance. Acquilla Greer who lived on Smith River at a place north of Rockcastle. His land fell into Franklin County when Franklin's boundaries were extended down to the banks of the Smith. He could not forget that he was American because an English king granted them a pardon upon taking a greater fealty oath after Culloden. Like so many Tories, Greers sons changed sides as the Revolution wore on. It pays to be on the winning side. A Scot and a Tory are almost the same one, especially during the early days. But after a while the Whigs won over most Scots. How many were there? Georgia was the first of the 13 colonies to fall to the British and they held it all during the Revolution. From Georgia they sent many regiments into SC and took it too. The headquarters of Cornwallis was Charleston, a port city, where the king's ships unloaded many of the survivors of that terrible day when English cannon almost wiped out the forces of Bonnie Prince Charlie. Since Prince Charlie is somewhat of an American hero, it speaks of the long-lingering tale of the aftermath of Culloden. Historians of the Revolution have always held that in North Carolina, one third of the population supported the Crown, and they hold that in South Carolina it was fifty-fifty, and in Georgia there was only one voice and it was the same voice which took the oath at Culloden. I visited a library that had microfilm copies of the Charleston newspapers of those days and had to get into those old records seeking a report of the death in Edgefield, South Carolina of my ancestor in 1781. He was hacked to death by Major William Cunningham (a Scot) from Georgia who commanded a squadron of Dragoons in His Majesty's Loyal Militia. Those old Charleston newspapers were full of stories of facy balls and other celebrations of Loyalist Militia from the Carolinas and Georgia. I never doubted that when my ancestors were on their way to the Battle of Guilford, they needed no map to find the place where Cornwallis stood. They could hear the sound of the pipes in the clear morning air, and those who played the pipes were sons of Culloden and dwellers in Georgia and the Carolinas. The most precious possession of someone migrating a great distance is that which he keeps in his head. Perhaps they were told of the voyage in the King's vessels to freedom and forgiveness because they took an oath to never again take arms against an English king. That is all the king ask. All he wished of a Scot was his word and his pledge. It was that pledge which caused some to turn away from those who went off to sign the Oath of Allegiance.

<A HREF="http://singletonfamily.org/library/wills/john_singleton_will.html"> Click here: Will of John Singleton</A> http://singletonfamily.org/library/wills/john_singleton_will.html Greetings from SC. This posting is FYI (no known connection)- other names mentioned: HAYNE, SAUNDERS, John De La Howe. URQ

<A HREF="http://www.carolinanow.com/historic/buildings.htm">Click here: Buildings of Historic Importance in North Carolina & South Carolina</A> http://www.carolinanow.com/historic/buildings.htm Greetings from SC. Here is an interesting site to check out. URQ

Hello Folks, Pardon me for the cross posting if you receive more than one copy of this. Do you have more than one of my surnames for the dates in the indicated areas? If so, please contact me. BLAKE 1819 Whitley Co KY, 1830-1860 Marshall Co AL CRAIG 1819 SC, 1840-1870 Marshall Co AL HAMES 1760 VA, 1790 SC (Pendleton, Union), 1820 GA (Hall, Murray) JACQUES/JAQUISH/JAGARSH/JAGNISH 1840-1860 Roane Co TN, 1870-1880 Marshall Co AL JOHNSON 1824 GA, 1850-1900 Jefferson Co AL KING 1760-1830 SC KRUGG 1739 Germany, 1757-1780 VA MATHIS 1825 NC, 1840-1860 Roane Co TN WADE 1726-1780 VA, 1790 Pendleton Dist. SC, 1810-1827 GA (Hall, Gwinnett), 1830-1920s AL (1830 Jackson, 1840 Morgan, 1850-1870 Marshall, 1880 Jackson, 1890-1920s Jefferson) WATERS/WATTERS 1840-1860 Marshall Co AL WHALEN 1852-1899 AL (Tallpoosa, Talladega, Jefferson) WHITAKER 1819 SC, 1830-1860 Marshall Co AL Thank you very much. Eldon mailto:ewade@cfl.rr.com Researching: WADE and HAMES - SC, GA, AL

Mean's 1st Regiment South Carolina Militia , war of 1812 A James Garner is listed as having served in this militia, can any one tell me, if any of these men where from Edgefield Co. S.C., or where I could find any infromation on this Reginment. I am not to good on research, for the war of 1812, Thanks dorothy norris

Can anyone tell me if there were records kept for the Confederate Home in Columbia, South Carolina and where I might find these? Thanks so much, Hope O. Creasman oldgoat@mindspring.com

Pam, I am finally getting around to going over the file on William Raborn that you sent me May 15. As I go thru, I am going to copy specific descrepancies/Questions/Additions that I have into this message. Some based on facts, some based on information from others that I have not verified. Most based on census reseach, altho I really need to get the 1840 & 1860 census to check on some of the children where we have conflicts in dates. YOU SENT the following info on the Children of William Raborn and Susannah Loveless: 1- Elizabeth RABORN b: Abt 1808 in , Edgefield Dist., SC 2- Sarah RABORN b: Abt 1809 in , Edgefield Dist., SC 3- Henry B. RABORN b: Abt 1810 in , Edgefield Dist., SC 4- Benjamin Lovelace RABORN b: 20 Mar 1815 in , Edgefield Dist., SC 5- William M. RABORN b: Abt 1816 in , Edgefield Dist., SC 6- Harriett Susannah RABORN b: 14 Jan 1817 in Aiken, Edgefield Dist., SC 7- John L. RABORN b: 28 Dec 1821 in , Edgefield Dist., SC 8- Lucretia M. RABORN b: 14 Oct 1828 in Brooklyn, , AL 9- Joseph Elijah RABORN b: 1831 in Brooklyn, , AL 10- Elihu Allen RABORN b: 1833 in Brooklyn, , AL 11- Simeon RABORN b: 1834 in Brooklyn, , AL COMMENTS Based on my research: First off , NOTE BELOW THAT ALL CHILDREN WERE BORN IN SC 1850 Edgefield Co census, p. 164 gives Susannah Raiborn as head of household # 634 age 57, b. SC with real estate value of $700. [24th day of August, 1850] Raiborn Susannah 50 F 500 SC Raiborn W. M. 24 M Farmer SC Raiborn Lucretia 22 F SC Raiborn Elizabeth 20 F SC Raiborn Elijah 18 M Farmer SC Raiborn Simeon 14 M SC Martin Susannah 7 F SC *This does not have all the children, but if Simeon is the youngest, and he is born in SC, then would assume all born in SC. __________________________________________ 1- Elizabeth - according to the 1850 and 1880 census info. that I have on her, she was born ca 1829-1832. 1850 : see above census. Using LDS Census CD's I found the following record of Elihu Raborn and his family. Elizabeth is living with him in AL, age 48. [Best to check original if you can, as I have found transcription errors that were quite genealogically important in some of the folks in SC that I have checked] 1880 Census Place: Union Church, Bullock, Alabama [Source: FHL Film 1254003 National Archives Film T9-0003, Page 174B] Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Elihu A. RABORN Self M M W 46 SC Occ: Farmer Fa: SC Mo: SC Fanny C. RABORN Wife F M W 36 SC Occ: Keeps House Fa: SC Mo: SC Susan D. RABORN Dau F S W 21 AL Fa: SC Mo: SC Henry E. RABORN Son M S W 18 AL Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: SC Mo: SC Joseph E. RABORN Son M S W 15 AL Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: SC Mo: SC Simien E. RABORN Son M S W 14 AL Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: SC Mo: SC Mary E. RABORN Dau F S W 12 AL Fa: SC Mo: SC Josaphine H. RABORN Dau F S W (3) AL Fa: SC Mo: SC Dudley RABORN Son M S W 2 AL Fa: SC Mo: SC Elizabeth D. RABORN Sister F W 48 SC Fa: SC Mo: SC Also the above of course gives Elihu Allen's information. ____________________________ 2- I don't have a Sarah Raborn for sure, but was sent the following informtion on her by Diane Sarten. "In your research would you have found any data on Sarah Raborn, daughter of William & Susannah. My records show she married John Wilson and then a Crowley. Nothing else is known about her." Diane Raborn Sarten I did find a Sarah married to a Wilson in census data of 1880, but this was pure speculation. I don't know for sure who she is and he late birthdate does not work for me, as Susannah would be 55. 1880 Census Place: Shultz, Aiken, South Carolina Source: FHL Film 1255218 National Archives Film T9-1218 Page 197D Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Daniel WILSON Self M M W 46 VA Occ: Butcher Fa: VA Mo: VA Sarah WILSON Wife F M W 32 SC Occ: Keeping House Fa: SC Mo: SC Emaline WILSON Dau F S W 14 GA Occ: Without Occupation Fa: SC Mo: SC Jno H. WILSON Son M S W 10 GA Fa: SC Mo: SC William D. WILSON Son M S W 7 GA Fa: SC Mo: SC Do you have any additional informatin to support her birth at 1809 and her attachment to William Raborn and Susannah. I have CENSUS: 1810 Edgefield Co, SC, p. 53A ?0100-11010 (Which would put 2 daughters born before 1810. The ? is there because I could not tell if it was a mark or a smear. None of the pages that I have copied from the 1820 census contain a Raborn CENSUS: 1830 Edgefield Co, SC p. 162 Willam Raborn 1111001 - 2020010001 1m<5 (b. 1825-1829) William M. Jr. born ca 1826 1m 5<10 (b. 1820-1824) John L. ? born Dec. 28, 1821 1m 10<15 (b. 1815-1819) Benjamin Loveless Raborn b. March 20, 1815 1m 15<20 (1810-1815) Henry B. Raborn b. ca 1812 1m 40<50 (b. 1780-1790) - William Raborn head of household 2f<5 (b. 1825-1829) Elizabeth b ca 1829 and Lucretia b. ca 1828 2f 10<15 (b. 1815-1819) Harriett Susannah Raborn Jan 14, 1817 and *UNKNOWN DAUGHTER?? 1f 30<40 (b. 1790-1800) Susannah Loveless Raborn, wife 1f 70<80 (b, 1750-1760) Susannah's mother was born ca 1755. I have no death date. I know nothing of Williams's mother, so I cannot say with certainty who this is. The dates here account for one unknown female. And I don't know anything about a Sarah which you mention, as does Diane Sarten in her information. Can someone out there help here? CENSUS: 1840 Edgefield Dist, SC p. 63 William Raborn 03120001-0021001 3m 5<10 (1830-1835) Joseph Elijah b. ca 1832; Elihu Allen b. ca 1833; Simeon b. ca 1835 1m 10<15 (1825-1830) William M. Jr. born ca 1826 2m 15<20 (1820-1825) John L.born Dec. 28, 1821; ** 1m 50<60 William Raborn head of household 2f 10<15 (1825-1830) Elizabeth b ca 1829 and Lucretia b. ca 1828 1f 15<20 (1820-1825) Unknown daughter ; ** 1f 40>50 Susannah Loveless Raborn wife Henry B. Raborn was married in 1840. Don't know where he is living. **Harriett Susannah was married November 21, 1839. Her 1st husband John F. Martin b. 1805. They are living next door to her parents so not in the home. **Benjamin Loveless Raborn was married March 15, 1838 to Charlotte (Charity) McDaniel who was born 1821. Could she one of the unknown females in the 1820 - 1825 age range? Does anyone have him as head of a household in 1840? He is not listed on the page with his father and sisters houshold. Could he be the male in the 15<20 age bracket and misplaced. He does not fit there as he would be age 25, so should be in the next bracket. But I have one ancestor who got 16 years younger from the 1850 to the 1860 census. I wish I could do that. ____________________________ 3- Henry B. Raborn: note the more detailed dates than you had in your file Pam, as well as other children and wives. Brackets around first 2 names means I don't know about these. I found them in the church records, and thought they might connect, especially Emiline since that was Henry's first wife. But I have absolutely NO other record on them. Henry B. RABORN b: March 12, 1812 in Edgefield co., SC d: Bef. March 12, 1883 . +EMILINE d: October 1850 in Edgefield Co, SC ......... 2 [America RABORN] ......... 2 [Emeline RABORN] ......... 2 Mary Ann RABORN b: July 02, 1840 in Johnston, Edgefield Co., SC d: April 10, 1908 in Greenwood, SC Burial: Rocky Creek Baptist Ch., Johnson, Edgefield Co.,SC ............. +Abner BOLTON b: April 27, 1835 in SC m: December 14, 1856 in Edgefield Co, SC d: February 12, 1909 in Langley, Aiken Co., SC Burial: Rocky Creek Baptist Ch., Johnson, Edgefield Co.,SC Father: Joseph Bolton Mother: Sarah 'Sally' ......... 2 Margaret RABORN b: Abt. 1842 ......... 2 Jane Amanda RABORN b: October 29, 1844 in Edgefield Co, SC d: February 10, 1922 in SC Burial: Rocky Creek Baptist Church, Saluda Co, SC ............. +William A. CLARK b: Abt. 1842 m: March 09, 1883 ......... 2 Drucilla RABORN b: Abt. 1847 ......... 2 James W. RABORN b: Abt. 1848 d: May 19, 1864 *2nd Wife of Henry B. RABORN: . +Catherine MATHENY m: Aft. 1850 d: June 14, 1857 *3rd Wife of Henry B. RABORN: [name in 1880 census] . +Ann ? b: Abt. 1818 in SC m: Bef. 1880 [America & Emeline] - I know that these people existed and were received into membership of Rocky Creek Baptist Church Dec 2, 1859 [Rocky Creek Baptist Church, Edgefield Co., SC minutes 1831-1875]. However, I have not positively identified either of them as children of Henry and Emiline Raborn. Further study of earlier census records are needed to prove this family attachment. They are not found on the 1850 census with Henry Raborn unless she goes by another name. March 6, 1858, Emeline Holloway was granted a letter of dismissal from Rocky Creek Church. Is this a daughter Emeline Raborn and she is now married to a Holloway? 3B Regarding MARY ANN RABORN d/o Henry B. Raborn: Kenneth Burnett, another researcher of this family who sent me some info. on Abner Bolton that he died in Aiken Co, SC. Aiken was formed in 1871 from the lower part of Edgefield that included the area of North Augusta, Aiken, Langley, Graniteville, Etc. (I was born in North Augusta, as was my mother.) I'm wondering if either of you assumed the info. based on where they were living or have an obit to support the data. I will try to get in touch with him. I don't know if the email address I have is current. Their location in the 1880 census was the Mobley Township, Edgefield Co, SC That township would be Saluda Co. today. , but Edgefield Co. until 1895. But I have not checked their location in 1900. Would appreciate any source data that would clear this up. Death certificates not available for the time of their death. One definite error that you have made in your locations is that Johnston, SC is in Saluda Co. It is not, Johnston, SC is still in Edgefield, altho it is close to the Saluda Co. line. My grandfather was born there. As for the location of the graves of Abner Bolton and Mary Ann Raborn: Rocky Creek is listed on the Baptist Chruch records as being in Edgefield Co, SC., but according to the 2001 DOT map, it is right across the line in Saluda Co, SC. I guess the nearest town in Johnston, but it is 6 miles as the crow flies. For the location of the Cem., you might want to consider just putting Saluda Co, SC. and eliminate Johnston for clarity. I would have looked in the town of Johnston, had I not known better. I have extracted genalogical info. from the minutes of Rocky Creek Bap., and it is my understanding that it will be in the next Quill. ______________________________________ 5- William M. Raborn: You have him born in 1816. My records seem to support 1826 - 1830. Census: 1850 census same as the first one given at the beginning of this message, shows him, age 24, living with his widowed mother. Information from Raburn-L@rootsweb.com : [Evelyn at Remeve@aol.com] WILLIAM MARTIN2 RABORN (WILLIAM1) was born 1830 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died 07 Jan 1863 in Murphreesboro, Tennessee. He married ELIZABETH PITTS Abt. 1851. She was born 1829 in Edgefield County, South Carolina. This goes along with the census age as well. ________________________________________ 6- Harriett Susannah Raborn - since the family was in Dry Creek Baptist church while the children were being born, I don't think that Harriett Susannah was born in Aiken. Aiken, the town, is one of those places that was sometimes in Edgefield and sometimes in Barnwell Co., until the formation of Aiken Co. in 1871. Its a little too far south of the Johnston area. She, as well as the other children, were probably all born in the area around Lott's tavern, which became Johnston, in Edgefield Co., SC. Do you have some source documentation to prove otherwise? I havn't done any deeds on the Raborns. To further support the location, I checked the neighbors. In 1840 their next door neighbor was William Rotton. He married Lydia Loveless, sister to William Raborn's wife Susannah Loveless. These folks were all members of the Dry Creek Baptist Church together. I desc. from William Rotton's brother John Rotton, Sr. m. Mary ? . John and Mary and some of their children transferred their membership from Dry Creek (January 26, 1833) to Rocky Creek ( March 2, 1833). The exact death dates for both Mary and John Rotton, SR. are recorded in the Rocky Creek Baptist Church, Edgefield Co., SC minutes 1831-1875. Desc. John Rotton I know still live in Johnston. My g-grandmother Hulda Eva Rauton was born there. My grandfather, her son, Odell Cornish Coursey, son of Hulda and Charles Franklin Coursey was born there. Most of the Courseys that I have been in contact with, have now moved to Greenwood, Greenville, or to Aiken co, where my mother was born, as was I. But there are Rautons all over the place in the Johnston area. _______________________________________ 8- Lucretia Raborn: From the same Raburn list source: Evelyn <Remeve@aol.com> thru the Raborn List at rootsweb: LOUCRETIA2 RABORN (WILLIAM1) was born 14 Oct 1828 in Edgefield County, South Carolina, and died 14 Apr 1890 in Brewton, Lowndes County, Alabama. She married EZEKIAL PICKENS LOVELACE. He was born 01 Jul 1829 in Dallas County, Alabama, and died 20 Jun 1905 in Brewton, Lowndes County, Alabama. Children of LOUCRETIA RABORN and EZEKIAL LOVELACE are: i. WILLIAM AARON3 LOVELACE, b. 07 Feb 1856; d. Jun 1932, Brewton, Lowndes County, Alabama. ii. LILLIE ELIZA LOVELACE. iii. JOHN B. LOVELACE. iv. IDA PICKENS (PICKIE) LOVELACE NOTE this states she was born in Edgefield Co., your information gives Brooklyn AL, and the 1880 Census CD (which I cannot check the original for accoracy) gives the location as NC. I believe this is a typo as the place of birth given for her as the mother of the children all say SC. 1880: Census Place: Brenton, Escambia, Alabama [Source: FHL Film 1254012 National Archives Film T9-0012 Page 191A ] Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace E. P. LOVELESS Self M M W 52 AL Occ: Farmer Fa: --- Mo: --- L. M. LOVELESS Wife F M W 53 MC Occ: Keeps House Fa: --- Mo: SC John LOVELESS Son M S W 18 AL Occ: Laborer Fa: AL Mo: SC Pickie LOVELESS Dau F S W 12 AL Fa: AL Mo: SC BACK to the 1850 CENSUS at the top: How did these last children get to be born in AL, when their father died in SC. According to the Dry Creek Baptist Church minutes: Dec. 27, 1851 states: "Next day on Sunday after Preaching Brother Wm Raborn applied for letters for his Mother and Sisters Lucretia and Elizabeth which was granted. Church then closed." So Susannah was still in SC in 1851, after her husband's death and after all the children were born. _______________________________ 9 - Joseph Elihu Raborn - note specific dates given below: Joseph Elijah RABORN b: September 13, 1832 d: July 05, 1906 in Dundee Archer Co, TX .. +Mary Ann "Mollie" Catherine MCKAY They came from Bruce McKay, Escondido, CA < bmckay@nctimes.net>, in a 11/19/2000 email message. I have no verification for this. ________________________________ Will stop for now. This is enought to mull over. Am also sending it to several web sites, so maybe other Raborn researchers will fill us in on what we do not know. Billie Jones Camden, SC tjones@camden.net

<A HREF="http://www.gagenbooks.com/familyhsc.htm">Click here: South Carolina Genealogy Books Family Histories</A> http://www.gagenbooks.com/familyhsc.htm This site has a listing of books currently available (for sale) on individual SC surnames. Among the names listed are: BAUKNIGHT, SUMMERS, WICKER, DERRICK, DUNCAN, HAIR, JACKSON, RICHARDSON, et. al. This post is just FYI--I have no connection to this site or to any of the names. URQ

Seeking information regarding Elijah REYNOLDS, wife Susan and family. One son was Robert Mitchell REYNOLDS, wife Mary E. FIELDS, daughter of John FIELDS. Would like a copy of Elijah REYNOLDS will, dated 09 April 1858, Darlington, S.C. Thanks, David T. Sutton Hendersonville, N.C. orange58@webtv.net

Thank You - So Very Much!! You are so kind! Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Simmons" <gscomman1958@worldnet.att.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 9:38 AM Subject: Re: [SC] Cox/1850/Unknown County/S.C. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: janet yancey <jjc@gvtc.com> > To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:15 PM > Subject: [SC] Cox/1850/Unknown County/S.C. > > > > Hello South Carolina Line! > > > > I am searching for John W. Cox, b. approximately 1828 or earlier, possibly > > South Carolina. > > > > The information I have is that he married, > > > > Almarinda Susan Johnson, (b. approx. 1830, S.C.), in 1847. > > > > Can anyone please help me? > > > > Thank you so much! Janet > > > Heres all the John Cox in SC in 1850. > > Cox, John SC ANDERSON DIST. 0336 1850 36 M > Cox, John SC ANDERSON DIST. 0336 1850 36 M > Cox, John A. J. SC ANDERSON DIST. 0997 1850 22 M > Cox, J. F. SC GREENVILLE DIST. 382 1850 > Cox, J. W. SC GREENVILLE DIST. 382 1850 > Cox, John SC GREENVILLE DIST. 341 1850 > Cox, John SC GREENVILLE DIST. 430 1850 > Cox, John SC GREENVILLE DIST. 443 1850 > Cox, John S. SC GREENVILLE DIST. 343 1850 > Cox, John SC HORRY DIST. 063 1850 > Cox, John J. SC HORRY DIST. 062 1850 > Cox, John S. SC LAURENS DIST. LAURENS DISTRICT 329 1850 > Cox, John SC MARLBORO DIST. 169 1850 > Cox, John SC SPARTANBURG DIST. SPARTANBURG TWP 121 1850 > Cox, John SC WILLIAMSBURG DIST. WILLIAMSBURG DISTRICT 147 1850 > Cox, John SC WILLIAMSBURG DIST. WILLIAMSBURG TERR. 147 1850 > Cox, John SC ABBEVILLE DIST. SAVANNAH RIVER REGIMENT 010 1850 > > > > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 6/5/02 > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina Resources Available at RootsWeb! > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html > >

----- Original Message ----- From: janet yancey <jjc@gvtc.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: [SC] Cox/1850/Unknown County/S.C. > Hello South Carolina Line! > > I am searching for John W. Cox, b. approximately 1828 or earlier, possibly > South Carolina. > > The information I have is that he married, > > Almarinda Susan Johnson, (b. approx. 1830, S.C.), in 1847. > > Can anyone please help me? > > Thank you so much! Janet Heres all the John Cox in SC in 1850. Cox, John SC ANDERSON DIST. 0336 1850 36 M Cox, John SC ANDERSON DIST. 0336 1850 36 M Cox, John A. J. SC ANDERSON DIST. 0997 1850 22 M Cox, J. F. SC GREENVILLE DIST. 382 1850 Cox, J. W. SC GREENVILLE DIST. 382 1850 Cox, John SC GREENVILLE DIST. 341 1850 Cox, John SC GREENVILLE DIST. 430 1850 Cox, John SC GREENVILLE DIST. 443 1850 Cox, John S. SC GREENVILLE DIST. 343 1850 Cox, John SC HORRY DIST. 063 1850 Cox, John J. SC HORRY DIST. 062 1850 Cox, John S. SC LAURENS DIST. LAURENS DISTRICT 329 1850 Cox, John SC MARLBORO DIST. 169 1850 Cox, John SC SPARTANBURG DIST. SPARTANBURG TWP 121 1850 Cox, John SC WILLIAMSBURG DIST. WILLIAMSBURG DISTRICT 147 1850 Cox, John SC WILLIAMSBURG DIST. WILLIAMSBURG TERR. 147 1850 Cox, John SC ABBEVILLE DIST. SAVANNAH RIVER REGIMENT 010 1850 --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.370 / Virus Database: 205 - Release Date: 6/5/02

Thank you Linda! Janet ----- Original Message ----- From: "Linda Shull" <lndshll@sprynet.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 6:30 PM Subject: Re: [SC] Cox/1850/Unknown County/S.C. > No John W. Cox in Lexington County 1850 census. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "janet yancey" <jjc@gvtc.com> > To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:15 PM > Subject: [SC] Cox/1850/Unknown County/S.C. > > > > Hello South Carolina Line! > > > > I am searching for John W. Cox, b. approximately 1828 or earlier, possibly > > South Carolina. > > > > The information I have is that he married, > > > > Almarinda Susan Johnson, (b. approx. 1830, S.C.), in 1847. > > > > Can anyone please help me? > > > > Thank you so much! Janet > > > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy > research > > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ > > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > To contact the list maintainer > SC-Genealogy-admin@rootsweb.com > >

No John W. Cox in Lexington County 1850 census. ----- Original Message ----- From: "janet yancey" <jjc@gvtc.com> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 13, 2002 7:15 PM Subject: [SC] Cox/1850/Unknown County/S.C. > Hello South Carolina Line! > > I am searching for John W. Cox, b. approximately 1828 or earlier, possibly > South Carolina. > > The information I have is that he married, > > Almarinda Susan Johnson, (b. approx. 1830, S.C.), in 1847. > > Can anyone please help me? > > Thank you so much! Janet > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy research > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ > >

Hello South Carolina Line! I am searching for John W. Cox, b. approximately 1828 or earlier, possibly South Carolina. The information I have is that he married, Almarinda Susan Johnson, (b. approx. 1830, S.C.), in 1847. Can anyone please help me? Thank you so much! Janet

Thanks, Greg. That is too early for mine. Louise ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gregory Simmons" <gscomman1958@worldnet.att.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 5:38 PM Subject: Re: [SC] Re: Wills of SC > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Louise <mlhjds@gate.net> > To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, June 05, 2002 12:09 PM > Subject: Fw: [SC] Re: Wills of SC > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Louise" <mlhjds@gate.net> > > To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Thursday, May 23, 2002 4:22 PM > > Subject: Re: [SC] Re: Wills of SC > > > > > > > Is there a William Hawkins? Louise > > > James Hawkins Vol 1 1777-1814 Book A Page 10 Union Co. SC > William Hawkins Vol 1 1777-1814 Book A Page 218 Union Co. SC > > > Greg Simmons > > > --- > Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. > Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). > Version: 6.0.368 / Virus Database: 204 - Release Date: 5/29/02 > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Thank you RootsWeb for all the genealogy resources you have given us! >

Dear John: Sorry, I am unable to help you, but sure would like to hear what you find out, as I am a Darby descendant, through Hannah (1718-1804). I can trace back only to Nicholas (b. abt. 1645 Dublin, Ireland) and that is courtesy of some unknown contributor. Edward Manigault ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Bryant" <bryant@radcad.net> To: <SC-Genealogy-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 12:53 PM Subject: [SC] De Bow > I am looking for information on John DeBow b cir 1760 married Ann Darby abt 1791 in Charleston, SC. Their daughter Mary married John Rich. Who were his parents and where was he born His brother was Garret(t) De Bow. > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! > Digest SC-Genealogy-D-request@rootsweb.com > List SC-Genealogy-L-request@rootsweb.com > only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE > No signature/No nothing! > >

The following was forwarded to me because it contained my keywords Edgefield and SC. I have added some info. I hope will be helpful below Don's post. ___________________________________ Match: Edgefield AND SC Source: HATCHER-L@rootsweb.com From: Dhatch48@aol.com Subject: Re: [HATCHER-L] I'm SO excited! Cousin Nel and all, I am one of those "SC Hatchers". I would be happy to help in the research but presently I reside in California and, unfortunately, not able to get to those places necessary to do this research. I will be retiring in approximately one year and moving back to Aiken County, SC, and at that time will be able to do this. I would like to add that what used to be Edgefield District was carved up in late 1800's into Edgefield, Aiken, and Barnwell Counties. John Hatcher, Sr (son of Benjamin Hatcher, Sr) came to the Edgefield District, SC, from VA, and apparently settled near what is now the Edgefield/Aiken County line area. Shaws Creek is in Aiken County and "Hatchers Pond" was in the same area. One can find Hatchers Pond on old circa 1800's SC maps. Don H. ____________________________ Additions by Billie Jones To Add a little and make a bit of a correction to what Don says about the area. Don states "I would like to add that what used to be Edgefield District was carved up in late 1800's into Edgefield, Aiken, and Barnwell Counties" , but that is not quite right. 1769-1784 Old Ninety Six Dist and Orangeburg Dist. included the areas that he mentions before. Barnwell dist was never in the Old Ninety Six dist or a part of Edgefield Dist, but was in the Orangburg Dist when it was formed in 1800. 1785, The Dist. were divided into 20 Counties within 7 districts. Edgefield was in Old Ninety Six and Winton Co., which later would be Barnwell Dist was in Orangeburg Dist. 1791 - Edgefield Dist. now contains large cos. of Abbeville, Edgefield, Newberry, and Laurens Co. (Laurens and Newberry were the same from now on.) 1800 - Barnwell Dist. formed from part of the old Orangeburg Dist. (looks like most if not all of the Winton co. that formed in 1785. 1871 - Aiken Co formed from part of sourthern Edgefield and part of Northern Barnwell. The area of Shaws Creek would now be in Aiken Co.and Edgefield Co. as the line divided the Shaws Dist. in half. [In an 1871 map by Isaac Boles that was drawn prior to the formation of Aiken co, there are household listed on the map. I found no Hatchers listed in the Edgefield area. I also realize that the area east of the Edisto River on that map was in Lexington Co. so you might want to check there as well for your Hatchers. It was formed in 1804 from the Old Orangeburg Dist.] 1895 - Saluda Co. formed from NE part of Edgefield 1897 - Greenwood Co. formed from part of Edgefield, and Abbeville Cos. Bamberg formed from part of Barnwell Co. 1916 - McCormick Co was formed from SW part of Abbeville and the NW portion of Edgefield. 1919 - Allendale Co., last county to emerge, was formed from part of Barnwell and Hamption Co. Source: "The Formation of Counties in SC", Michael Stauffer, SC Dept of Archives and History. There is of course a lot more info. on other counties in the book, but I only mentioned those that seemed to be of interest to those wondering about Edgefield, Aiken and Barnwell Cos. So... if you are looking for Shaws Creek, it depends on the time table. I think it would be in southern Edgefield and into a part of northern Barnwell after 1871 and then in either Edgefield or Aiken Cos. From my present Aiken Co. DOT map, Shaws Creek empties into the South fork of the Edisto River, about 3/4 of the way down from the Edgefield Co. line, and does not flow into present day Barnwell. But it probably would have entered Barnwell Co. from 1800 - 1871. A wonderful site that shows the evolution of counties beginning with formation of the Proprietary Countis in 1682 and the location of the Parishes of the Anglican church thru today can be found on the SC GEN WEB site. I can't remember that URL, but you can get there thru www.genweb.com> click on state map > click on SC > look for a box about old Districts. I cannot remember it showing the creeks in the area. Now, for my question..... Do any of you Hatcher researchers in the area of Shaw's creek run into any Rauton/Rotton or Coursey families in your research. According to the following census record, my gg-grandparents, William S. Rauton and Elmina Burnett are found in the Shaws township in Aiken Co. in 1880. Old spelling was Rotton/ present family uses Rauton, but I have seen it spelled many ways. 1880 Aiken County, SC Census, Shaws Township, p. 253 gives the following information on William and his family. William Ruton 45 w m farmer SC SC SC Elminy 32 w f at home SC SC SC [nee BURNETT] Ida 14 w f farm hand SC SC SC attend school within the census year Henry 10 w m farm hand SC SC SC arm broken " Yancy 8 w m " " *Hildy 6 w f " (my g-grandmother m Charles Franklin Coursey.) Wm 4 w m " Charley 1 w m " Parents and daughter Ida could and write. ANY information on the above surnames would be much appreciated. Billie Jones Camden, SC tjones@camden.net