Lisa, The first Robert´s I find in Surry CO NC wwre James and John Robert´s listed together with 5 polls(3 slaves) on the 1774 tithables. Did any of your Robert´s family intermarry with the HOLDER family and were they in Greenville, SC? SMITH is always a tough name to search, their were a few lines in Surry CO NC. The only one I have followed, is the Charles Smith Anne Mallory line out of Orange CO VA. They intermarried with my SNOW and TUCKER lines in Surry CO NC. Teresa Stuart de Rios ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Grimes" <[email protected]> To: "teresa stuart de rios" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:42 PM Subject: RE: [SC] ROBERTS > -----Original Message----- > From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] > >>Gail, you mention ROBERTS: > >>.....There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC > >> and Buncombe CO NC. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Yes... that ARE lots of ROBERTS in Surry Co. NC.... > It's the sorting them out... that's been all the fun. > > You see... I have a whole ROBERTS family that married into > my SMITH family.... between 1790-1825, and I've not been > able to make a dent on this line. Nor have I found any > on the background for this particular SMITH line... altho > I can find every one of my known ancestors......... on the > 1790 Census Index for Surry Co. NC. Most are later in TN > in the .....Bedford, Coffee and Lincoln County areas. > > Here's a basic outline... and all family lines had their > origins in Surry Co. NC..... before migrating to GA and TN: > > John Jackson SMITH Jr [b. 1767-68] > m. Patsy HAGGARD [b. 1770-72] Surry Co. NC > d/o, Samuel HAGGARD Sr [b. 1749-1756] > m. Nancy HIX [or HICKS] > CH: > 1. Sarah SMITH, b. 1793 NC, m. John HAGGARD > 2. Anna SMITH, b. 1797 GA, m. Alfred HAGGARD > 3. Mary "Polly" SMITH, b. 1801 GA, m. James C. GREEN *** > 4. [_?_] SMITH b. 1803-1805 > 5. Josiah SMITH, b. 1807 GA, m. Nancy ROBERTS > 6. Hannah SMITH, b. 1811 GA, m. Joseph ROBERTS > 7. Rebecca SMITH, b. 1809 TN, m. Zephaniah ROBERTS, TN > 8. Malinda SMITH, b. 1812 TN, m. William ROBERTS > 9. John Jackson SMITH [III] > b. 1813 TN, m. Jane ROBERTS > > *** Mary "Polly" SMITH m. James C. GREEN are my line. > We know that there were NINE children... but we haven't > been able to find a name for that 4th child. > > Here's hoping someone out there will recognize this group > of ROBERTS siblings??? > > Lisa Grimes > [email protected] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -----Original Message----- > From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > > > Gail, you mention ROBERTS: > Nov. 30, 1829, Buncombe Co., Jacob Stuart to Swain Cockerham, $200.00 > for 100 acres (including the Thomas Rogers family plantation) on Avery > Creek. Witnesses: A. B. Carland and Wm. Roberts. Recorded and proven by > subscribing of A. B. Carland. > There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC and Buncombe CO NC. > On this deed, A. B. Carland is the son of John Carlin found on the 1800 and > 1810 Greenville CO SC census. > Teresa > > > . > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gail moore" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > > > > Gail, yes this is a line I follow. > > Moses son of old John came to Surry CO NC by 1771, some say his nephew > > David, son of his deceased brother John JR came with him. I have the > 1771, > > 1772 tax list of Surry CO. Moses Cockerham is the first there. I believe > > some of this Cockerham line moved to Rutherford CO NC, GA and LA. > > Wilkes CO NC was created from part of Surry abt 1778, in the next 10 to 12 > > years part of Wilkes went back to Surry and vice versa. > > Also, be aware there was a fairly large Cockerham line in Henry, Franklin > CO > > VA. Names included, Abner, Nathaniel, Edward, Cheadle Cockerham. Henry Co > > VA bordered at one time 1777-1791 on the NC line with Surry CO NC, > although > > this Cockerham line seems to be in present Franklin CO VA and Patrick CO > VA. > > Teresa > > > > > > > > Teresa, > > Cheadle Cockerham connects into Moses! Cheadle Cockerham and Daniel #1 > were > > brothers'. We have proven that via old VA Ct. Order Books (Online). > > Then when Daniel #1 married he named a son Cheadle only it was spelled a > bit > > different by that time as Chesley. This Chesley grew up and married > > Margaret (Peggy) Martin. Peggy B. Chapman named the article that her and > > Frank wrote and published after *****This man***** > > > > This man also named a son Daniel b. Bet. 1782 - 1884 as best we could come > > to a date for this one. > > Then this Daniel is the one who married Elizabeth Roberts!! They married > as > > best we could guess about 1820 and did have the following children: > > > > Allen C. Cockerham Cothran (the C could therefore stand for Cheadle or > > Chesley either one after his Grandfathers') > > > > Richard Cockerham Cothran > > > > Lydia Cockerham Cothran > > > > *****NOTE Disregaurd the use of COCKERHAM and aslo that of COTHRAN > these > > were used in order to make the program perform correctly and do what we > > needed it to do************** > > They do belong with this family but I will not even guess as to the > correct > > spelling that they were at this time using. > > > > I grew up using Cothran myself as did my Father and his Father before him. > > And my GreatGrandfather is buried underneath a tombstone that reads the > same > > way! > > > > Teresa, I do believe this is the same folks that you were looking for. My > > Grandmother Cothran told me that there were some Roberts in our family she > > just never explained if it were the Cothran's or the Entriken's that she > was > > talking about. > > > > Gail > > > > > > > > Gail > > [email protected] > > [email protected] > > BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! > >

Hi, I am trying to get further back on my Grahams, also. I need documentation. According to Mrs. W. S. Elrod, my Grahams are supposedly descended from Jean ? Graham and her husband...supposedly a Rev. Graham. There is a book at the Richland Public Library on the descendants of Rev. John Graham leading one to believe that my ancestor was this Rev. John Graham. Taken from Allied Family, Graham, Ancestry of Nancy Graham Williams, by Mrs. W. S. Elrod. " Mrs. Jean Graham (widow of Rev. Graham) settled on Turkey Creek in that part of Mecklenburg County, N. C. that later became York County, S.C. It was here her will was filed and recorded in 1792. The will was dated Aug. 16, 1790. "The old Graham homeplace, containing 300 A. was located on Turkey Creek in York County, S.C. Jean Graham did not leave her sons any of her estate as indications are that they were quite 'well to do' and did not need it... "... Jeremiah Williams (Capt.) who married Nancy Graham after the revolutionary war was a teacher and minister. Nancy's mother's will ... indicates... she bequeathed to Nancy the Rev. Graham's sermon book (probably for Nancy's husband to use.) "The will of Jeane Graham states: 'I, Jean Graham, of County of York, State of South Carolina, names daughter, Margaret, all my tract of land in said County, containing 289 A. adjoining John Cornachan, Turkey Creek; the daughter Nancy, one sermon....books etc. I appoint my daughter, Margaret Templeton and friend, Hugh Barry (See Hugh Barry) executors. Signed" Jean Graham. Wtns: James Willson, George Templeton, and William Templeton **note the Templeton name...they were related to the Davidsons. Recorded April 30, 1792 in Will Book A-12, pg. 69, Case 56, File 160." "The grandchildren of Rev. John and & Mrs. Jeane Graham migrated to many States after the Revolutionary War. Two of Jean's sons served in the Rev. War, and her grandson was killed near Bamberg by the Tories." This is where I am lost. I trying to connect my Grahams in Newberry County to supposedly Jean's son, George, and to connect Jean to the first Rev. John Graham who preached in Connecticut. There are papers of his and his son John, also a preacher in Connecticut. They can be found in the library at William L. Clements Library at The University of Michigan . *****I wish I could have someone look at those papers and tell me more about the first Rev. John Graham born in Edinburgh, Scotland in 1694. Did he marry twice and if so who was his second wife and who were all his children and which mother did they belong to ? This would help me tremendously to figure out where Jean came from and what her maiden name was. I have some guesses..but that is all they are. I have looked up all people who had dealings with her will and land, but haven't found anything substantial. My other brick wall is more about her son George? I can find some information that begins with him and then jumps to his brother telling where the brother is buried...but nothing else on George. I know this George served in the Revolutionary War and his age is appropriate for my George. My George died in Newberry...there are Estate Records in Newberry on George Graham, Box 356, Pkg. 29 dated 1791. It lists his children thus giving me pretty direct proof of my line. (my ancestor was George's son Jesse.) One thing that has really bothered me is that Jesse had a brother named James. In Newberry, there is a book about the family of James stating he was born in England. I know that my James was this James because my Great Grandaddy George Tillman Graham born August 17, 1859 and James's son, John Hillard Graham born July 04, 1814 died Jan. 30, 1878 wrote to each other and called each other cousins. I have copies of the letters. The Graham Family Papers contain a miscellaneous assortment of letters, documents, and diaries relating to John Graham, Sr. and Jr., and Sylvester Graham. John Graham, Sr., is represented by a religious copybook, begun ca.1724, three printed items, two manuscript biographies, and 12 letters between him and his son, John, Jr., written during the French and Indian War. I am pretty sure that his son John Graham, Jr.'s sons, Sylvester and Narcissus Graham came to South Carolina. (Sylvester Graham was raised by a succession of relatives, working as a farm hand, clerk and teacher before chronic ill health led him to choose the ministry as a less stressful profession. Graham preached under the auspices of the Presbytery of Newark in New Jersey during the early 1830's, during which time he began to propound his distinctive, all-encompasing reformist ideas on diet and health. Grahamism stressed the benefit of complete abstention from alcohol, tobacco and meat and advocated eating coarse-grained bread more than 12 hours old, fruits and vegetables. Beyond diet, he recommended hard mattresses, open bedroom windows, chastity, cold showers, loose clothing, pure water and vigorous exercise. He became a well known, if controversial, lecturer on not only the Grahamite philosophy, but physiology and anatomy and the position of the Bible on wine and meat, and he directed a special series of lectures toward African-Americans. The most widely read among his many publications were his Treatise on Bread and Bread-Making (1837) and the journal he edited, the Graham Journal of Health and Longevity (1837-39). Grahamism, the fad of the 1830's, waned in the 1840's, and Graham devoted himself increasingly to his Biblical lectures. His health declined steadily, and he died in Northampton, Mass., after a round of failed Grahamite cures. ...hence the Graham cracker.) If they came, then it is logical other relatives might have came. From George in Newberry on down to me, I am fairly certain except for a few things that need a little more work done on them. I plan to dig deeper into the Mecklenburg Grahams and York District Grahams. If anyone is working on these Grahams, please let's share this information. I looked for your John Graham, but didn't find anything but he and his wife. Do you have their children? He is probably one of the many grandchildren of the originial Rev. John Graham. I will definitely keep you in mind if I run across his line. If you would be so kind to share your John's children and their dates, I would be very pleased. Hope that some of the information above will be of help to you. Thanks for responding, Hope

Gail, here are the Cockerham´s that appear in the Surry CO NC Court Minute Book 1768-1789. William, Hezekiah, Humphrey, Daniel, Moses and William. 1786 Surry Co tax list, Cooks district, Andrew Robinson Collector. Hezekiah Cockram. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "gail moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:52 AM Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > Yes we knew that, that is their connection to each other somehow. > > > > Gail > [email protected] > [email protected] > BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina GenForum Page > http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

-----Original Message----- From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] >>Gail, you mention ROBERTS: >>.....There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC >> and Buncombe CO NC. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Yes... that ARE lots of ROBERTS in Surry Co. NC.... It's the sorting them out... that's been all the fun. You see... I have a whole ROBERTS family that married into my SMITH family.... between 1790-1825, and I've not been able to make a dent on this line. Nor have I found any on the background for this particular SMITH line... altho I can find every one of my known ancestors......... on the 1790 Census Index for Surry Co. NC. Most are later in TN in the .....Bedford, Coffee and Lincoln County areas. Here's a basic outline... and all family lines had their origins in Surry Co. NC..... before migrating to GA and TN: John Jackson SMITH Jr [b. 1767-68] m. Patsy HAGGARD [b. 1770-72] Surry Co. NC d/o, Samuel HAGGARD Sr [b. 1749-1756] m. Nancy HIX [or HICKS] CH: 1. Sarah SMITH, b. 1793 NC, m. John HAGGARD 2. Anna SMITH, b. 1797 GA, m. Alfred HAGGARD 3. Mary "Polly" SMITH, b. 1801 GA, m. James C. GREEN *** 4. [_?_] SMITH b. 1803-1805 5. Josiah SMITH, b. 1807 GA, m. Nancy ROBERTS 6. Hannah SMITH, b. 1811 GA, m. Joseph ROBERTS 7. Rebecca SMITH, b. 1809 TN, m. Zephaniah ROBERTS, TN 8. Malinda SMITH, b. 1812 TN, m. William ROBERTS 9. John Jackson SMITH [III] b. 1813 TN, m. Jane ROBERTS *** Mary "Polly" SMITH m. James C. GREEN are my line. We know that there were NINE children... but we haven't been able to find a name for that 4th child. Here's hoping someone out there will recognize this group of ROBERTS siblings??? Lisa Grimes [email protected] ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request Gail, you mention ROBERTS: Nov. 30, 1829, Buncombe Co., Jacob Stuart to Swain Cockerham, $200.00 for 100 acres (including the Thomas Rogers family plantation) on Avery Creek. Witnesses: A. B. Carland and Wm. Roberts. Recorded and proven by subscribing of A. B. Carland. There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC and Buncombe CO NC. On this deed, A. B. Carland is the son of John Carlin found on the 1800 and 1810 Greenville CO SC census. Teresa . ----- Original Message ----- From: "gail moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > Gail, yes this is a line I follow. > Moses son of old John came to Surry CO NC by 1771, some say his nephew > David, son of his deceased brother John JR came with him. I have the 1771, > 1772 tax list of Surry CO. Moses Cockerham is the first there. I believe > some of this Cockerham line moved to Rutherford CO NC, GA and LA. > Wilkes CO NC was created from part of Surry abt 1778, in the next 10 to 12 > years part of Wilkes went back to Surry and vice versa. > Also, be aware there was a fairly large Cockerham line in Henry, Franklin CO > VA. Names included, Abner, Nathaniel, Edward, Cheadle Cockerham. Henry Co > VA bordered at one time 1777-1791 on the NC line with Surry CO NC, although > this Cockerham line seems to be in present Franklin CO VA and Patrick CO VA. > Teresa > > > > Teresa, > Cheadle Cockerham connects into Moses! Cheadle Cockerham and Daniel #1 were > brothers'. We have proven that via old VA Ct. Order Books (Online). > Then when Daniel #1 married he named a son Cheadle only it was spelled a bit > different by that time as Chesley. This Chesley grew up and married > Margaret (Peggy) Martin. Peggy B. Chapman named the article that her and > Frank wrote and published after *****This man***** > > This man also named a son Daniel b. Bet. 1782 - 1884 as best we could come > to a date for this one. > Then this Daniel is the one who married Elizabeth Roberts!! They married as > best we could guess about 1820 and did have the following children: > > Allen C. Cockerham Cothran (the C could therefore stand for Cheadle or > Chesley either one after his Grandfathers') > > Richard Cockerham Cothran > > Lydia Cockerham Cothran > > *****NOTE Disregaurd the use of COCKERHAM and aslo that of COTHRAN these > were used in order to make the program perform correctly and do what we > needed it to do************** > They do belong with this family but I will not even guess as to the correct > spelling that they were at this time using. > > I grew up using Cothran myself as did my Father and his Father before him. > And my GreatGrandfather is buried underneath a tombstone that reads the same > way! > > Teresa, I do believe this is the same folks that you were looking for. My > Grandmother Cothran told me that there were some Roberts in our family she > just never explained if it were the Cothran's or the Entriken's that she was > talking about. > > Gail > > > > Gail > [email protected] > [email protected] > BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching!

Hi, I'm trying to track down South Carolina McKnights that ended up in Missouri in early 1800s. Do you know if? Thanks Mary Moran ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lynn Whitaker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 08, 2004 1:27 AM Subject: [SC] surnames McElveen,Mcknight,Scurry, > Hi I am looking for info on my family they were all from the Williamsburg or Sumter District S.C, John McElveen born abt 1700 wife Jane died 1738 Adam McElveen born abt 1737 wife Margaret McCrate William McElveen born 5-10-1757 died 4-8-1837 Adam McElveen born 5-10-1757 died 4-8-1837 wife Susan Emma Mcknight John Price McElveen born 9-17-1830 died 8-29-1906 wife Margaret Isobel Scurry thankyou Lynn Whitaker [email protected] > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina Genealogical Resources > http://www.crosswinds.net/~southcarolina/Societies/societies.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Here's a confusing one. Name of husband doesn't seem to fit, so don't know if there are two Bell Boones or not. The following obituary was transcribed from the clipping in the Scrapbook of Ella Ruth Hazel Trotter. Mrs. Bell B. Bledsoe - Saluda, SC Aug. 18 [no year or name of newspaper with the clipping] Mrs. Bell Bonne Bledsoe, 68, of the Hickory Grove Section, ided in a Greenwood Hospital at 2 pm today. She had been in declining health for the past several years. She was a member of Rocky Creek Baptist Church. Funeral Services will be held at Bethel Methdodist Church on the Johnson highway Thursday at 4:30 pm.... Burial will be in the church cem. Ramey Funeral Home in charge. Besides her husband Benjamin R. Bledsoe, five daughters and one son survive. they are: Mrs. Rowan Bowers and Ben L. Bledsoe, both of Columbia [SC]; Mrs. William P. Brennan, Charlotte [NC]; Mrs. Emmett C. Bennett, Atlanta [GA]; Mrs. Malcolm R. Banks and Mrs. Scott Allen, both of Saluda [SC]; one sister, Mrs. E. L. Carpenter, Augusta, Ga. and 11 grandchildren. Mrs. Bledsoe was a niece of the late D. A. G. Ouzts of Greenwood. The cem. records for Bethel Methodist do not include any Bledsoes. Since I have no cem. record, I cannot figure out the date of the obit. HOWEVER: The following is listed in the Bethlehem Methodist Church Cem. Records. Bledsoe, [Martha (Mattie)] Belle BOONE May 27 1886 - Aug 18 1954 This cem. record has her buried beside Bledsoe, Berryman R. [Russell] Sep 6 1881 - Jul 23 1973 rather than a Benjamin R. Bledsoe??? What is your take from this? Did the cemetery transcribers get name wrong. Seems like his children would have given the info. for the obit and would know their father's name??? Billie

Gail, yes this is a line I follow. Moses son of old John came to Surry CO NC by 1771, some say his nephew David, son of his deceased brother John JR came with him. I have the 1771, 1772 tax list of Surry CO. Moses Cockerham is the first there. I believe some of this Cockerham line moved to Rutherford CO NC, GA and LA. Wilkes CO NC was created from part of Surry abt 1778, in the next 10 to 12 years part of Wilkes went back to Surry and vice versa. Also, be aware there was a fairly large Cockerham line in Henry, Franklin CO VA. Names included, Abner, Nathaniel, Edward, Cheadle Cockerham. Henry Co VA bordered at one time 1777-1791 on the NC line with Surry CO NC, although this Cockerham line seems to be in present Franklin CO VA and Patrick CO VA. Teresa Teresa, Cheadle Cockerham connects into Moses! Cheadle Cockerham and Daniel #1 were brothers'. We have proven that via old VA Ct. Order Books (Online). Then when Daniel #1 married he named a son Cheadle only it was spelled a bit different by that time as Chesley. This Chesley grew up and married Margaret (Peggy) Martin. Peggy B. Chapman named the article that her and Frank wrote and published after *****This man***** This man also named a son Daniel b. Bet. 1782 - 1884 as best we could come to a date for this one. Then this Daniel is the one who married Elizabeth Roberts!! They married as best we could guess about 1820 and did have the following children: Allen C. Cockerham Cothran (the C could therefore stand for Cheadle or Chesley either one after his Grandfathers') Richard Cockerham Cothran Lydia Cockerham Cothran *****NOTE Disregaurd the use of COCKERHAM and aslo that of COTHRAN these were used in order to make the program perform correctly and do what we needed it to do************** They do belong with this family but I will not even guess as to the correct spelling that they were at this time using. I grew up using Cothran myself as did my Father and his Father before him. And my GreatGrandfather is buried underneath a tombstone that reads the same way! Teresa, I do believe this is the same folks that you were looking for. My Grandmother Cothran told me that there were some Roberts in our family she just never explained if it were the Cothran's or the Entriken's that she was talking about. Gail Gail [email protected] [email protected] BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching!

This map will show you Craven District - http://www.rootsweb.com/usgenweb/sc/maps/sc_1747.jpg near North Carolina and Cape Cateret. The Tyger River now flows through Sumter National Forest and you can canoe during certain times of the year. More maps here: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/SC_maps.html#colonial Good luck Gaila ----- Original Message ----- From: "M. Young" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [SC] Re: Tyger River/Craven County > Thank you, Ray. I was hoping that maybe a river in modern Marion/Dillon counties > was renamed from Tyger to something else. It's not my luck, though. > > Thanks again. > > Melanie

Gail, you mention ROBERTS: Nov. 30, 1829, Buncombe Co., Jacob Stuart to Swain Cockerham, $200.00 for 100 acres (including the Thomas Rogers family plantation) on Avery Creek. Witnesses: A. B. Carland and Wm. Roberts. Recorded and proven by subscribing of A. B. Carland. There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC and Buncombe CO NC. On this deed, A. B. Carland is the son of John Carlin found on the 1800 and 1810 Greenville CO SC census. Teresa . ----- Original Message ----- From: "gail moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:23 AM Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > Gail, yes this is a line I follow. > Moses son of old John came to Surry CO NC by 1771, some say his nephew > David, son of his deceased brother John JR came with him. I have the 1771, > 1772 tax list of Surry CO. Moses Cockerham is the first there. I believe > some of this Cockerham line moved to Rutherford CO NC, GA and LA. > Wilkes CO NC was created from part of Surry abt 1778, in the next 10 to 12 > years part of Wilkes went back to Surry and vice versa. > Also, be aware there was a fairly large Cockerham line in Henry, Franklin CO > VA. Names included, Abner, Nathaniel, Edward, Cheadle Cockerham. Henry Co > VA bordered at one time 1777-1791 on the NC line with Surry CO NC, although > this Cockerham line seems to be in present Franklin CO VA and Patrick CO VA. > Teresa > > > > Teresa, > Cheadle Cockerham connects into Moses! Cheadle Cockerham and Daniel #1 were > brothers'. We have proven that via old VA Ct. Order Books (Online). > Then when Daniel #1 married he named a son Cheadle only it was spelled a bit > different by that time as Chesley. This Chesley grew up and married > Margaret (Peggy) Martin. Peggy B. Chapman named the article that her and > Frank wrote and published after *****This man***** > > This man also named a son Daniel b. Bet. 1782 - 1884 as best we could come > to a date for this one. > Then this Daniel is the one who married Elizabeth Roberts!! They married as > best we could guess about 1820 and did have the following children: > > Allen C. Cockerham Cothran (the C could therefore stand for Cheadle or > Chesley either one after his Grandfathers') > > Richard Cockerham Cothran > > Lydia Cockerham Cothran > > *****NOTE Disregaurd the use of COCKERHAM and aslo that of COTHRAN these > were used in order to make the program perform correctly and do what we > needed it to do************** > They do belong with this family but I will not even guess as to the correct > spelling that they were at this time using. > > I grew up using Cothran myself as did my Father and his Father before him. > And my GreatGrandfather is buried underneath a tombstone that reads the same > way! > > Teresa, I do believe this is the same folks that you were looking for. My > Grandmother Cothran told me that there were some Roberts in our family she > just never explained if it were the Cothran's or the Entriken's that she was > talking about. > > Gail > > > > Gail > [email protected] > [email protected] > BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Thank you RootsWeb for all the genealogy resources you have given us! > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 >

Some excitiing new info. has come to me by chance this week. I got an email message a couple of weeks ago from Betty Trotter whose husband Randy's family is from the Saluda Co. area. She and her husband were going to be in SC for a visit and she wanted to put a face to the emailer. We have exchanged Trotter info. as the Joseph Trotter line marries into the Charles Carter and Hezekiah Gentry line that is mine, so I have worked a bit on them. We cannot connect the two Trotter lines yet, however. Anyway, we met here at the Camden Archives Tuesday and enjoyed visiting with one another. (Who else but family researchers can meet complete strangers and spend 5 hours constantly talking about dead folks and have fun!) Betty mentioned a scrapbook that her husbands grandmother, Edna Ruth HAZEL Trotter, had kept of old family pictures and obits. My comment was that one of my daughters-in-law was a desc. of the Hazels of that area, going back to Darling Hazel b. ca Abt. 1789 married Margaret Bland. Well.... lo and behold, that is her husband's Hazel line too. And the scrapbook had Julie's g-grandparents and gg-grandparents' obit in it, and a picture of her grandmother with all her siblings. It is truely a small world!! So Betty came back to Camden on Tuesday and brought the scrapbook and allowed me to copy the pages. I have found and expanded several lines already and have only transcribed one page of the obits from the scrapbook. Betty has given me permission to post the information that I transcribe onto the lists, and she is generously donating a copy to the Tomkins Library for future researchers. Her copy is much better than mine, as she made color copies that shows the pictures, in the sepia tone that is much clearer than my black & white copy of a copy. We both hope that this information will help many of you. And that you will post to the list any information that you might have on these folks. Each time I post, I will give the source of the info. and certain limitations. For instance, the compiler of the scrapbook did not write down the date nor the name of the newspaper from which the obit was taken. A couple give the name the "Saluda Standard", and at least one so far has said special to The State (out of Columbia). I don't know anything about the Saluda Standard. The source documentation that I am using is: "Scrapbook of pictures and obits kept by Ella Ruth Hazel Trotter 1905 - 1963, d/o John Henry & Jamesanna Timmerman Hazel" Then, in the comments section of my source, I add the actual item, such as obit of Mrs. Julia Hazel Simmons or obit of John R. Trotter..... I am searching cem. records and death cert. for dates on these folks since the dates are not written on the clippings. Some I may not have, and Betty might not have found either, so if anyone knows them, please share. I am so excited about this info, especially since it includes information on my daughter-in-law's family. However, Julie was very grateful to hear that as far as I can tell, she has no direct family connections to her husband! So... be on the lookout. I am having to do this much slower than I want to, as I am trying to put the death cert. with them, and I cannot get down to do those as often as I would like. I hope noone will mind all the cross posting, as I need to include several different areas for research purposes. Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected]

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Geri, I looked for your ROLAND HUGH STANLEY at the York County Courthouse but did not find him. They only keep so many years though. Have you tried the SC Archives at this link http://www.scdhec.net/vr/index.htm . I think you can send away for records from them. Sorry I could find him for you. Good Luck with your search. Joy Fincher Atkinson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gerri Ann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 7:18 AM Subject: [SC] Stanley Is there anyone on this list who could do a marriage look-up for early 1940's? I'm not sure about the county. People from NC went to York, SC to get married since there was no waiting period. Does that mean a town named York or is it York Co. or one and the same? I believe it was pretty close to the NC state line. I'm searching for marriages for ROLAND HUGH STANLEY, DOB- 07-17-1916. He was from Davie Co, Mocksville, NC. He died 1985, NC. He was actually married 5 times and I have NC records for 3 marriages!! The ones I need were early 1940's. Thanks for all help, Gerri Ann, TN ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== Thank you RootsWeb for all the genealogy resources you have given us! ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

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Thank you, Ray. I was hoping that maybe a river in modern Marion/Dillon counties was renamed from Tyger to something else. It's not my luck, though. Thanks again. Melanie [email protected] wrote: > Hi Melanie, > > Craven County seems to have often been used for areas West and especially North > of Berkeley County, even when it was outside the Craven County Official lines. > Problem is that the settlers outpaced the county lines and they had to call it > some county. > > Ray > > >Date: Sun, 09 May 2004 13:40:08 -0500 > >From: "M. Young" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > > > >Where was Tyger River, Craven Co., SC located?> > > > >Many years ago someone sent me some info on Land Grants and Memorials > >for Isaac Young, 1700's, in SC. The location for several of them was > >Tyger River, Craven County. > > > >I can find Tyger River on an old and a current map. I can find Craven > >County on an old map. However, they do not overlap, as far as I can > >tell. Any help appreciated.... > > > >Melanie > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina Resources Available at RootsWeb! > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Teresa, Backing up a bit, I just found this, but it does not connect into my full file. It is sort of sitting there. The reason being, the mention of Charles you see my own Father was named Orrin Charlie Cothran. He grew up being told he was named for someone back in his family. I have never to this date found that person yet. Is this your family and your line? I think that I found some of this in the VA Ct. Order Books online! Descendants of John (Cockerham) Cockrum Generation No. 1 1. JOHN (COCKERHAM)1 COCKRUM was born in Of Lunenburg Co. VA &Surry Co. NC.. He married UNKNOWN. Children of JOHN COCKRUM and UNKNOWN are: 2. i. PHILIP (COCKERHAM)2 COCKRUM. 3. ii. JOHN JR. (COCKERHAM) COCKRUM. iii. MOSES (COCKERHAM) COCKRUM. iv. BENJAMIN (COCKERHAM) COCKRUM. 4. v. MINOR YOUNG (COCKERHAM) COCKRUM. vi. LETTY (COCKERHAM) COCKRUM. vii. MARY (COCKERHAM) COCKRUM. Generation No. 2 2. PHILIP (COCKERHAM)2 COCKRUM (JOHN (COCKERHAM)1) He married ANNE UNKNOWN. Children of PHILIP COCKRUM and ANNE UNKNOWN are: i. MINOR3 COCKRUM. ii. PHILIP JR. COCKRUM. iii. MARY COCKRUM. iv. NANNY COCKRUM. v. CHARLES COCKRUM1,2, b. Bef. 1760. vi. OBADIAH COCKRUM, b. Bef. 1760. vii. HENRY COCKRUM, b. Bef. 1760. viii. MATTHEW COCKRUM, b. Abt. 1760. 3. JOHN JR. (COCKERHAM)2 COCKRUM (JOHN (COCKERHAM)1) He married UNKNOWN. Child of JOHN COCKRUM and UNKNOWN is: i. DAVID3 COCKRUM. 4. MINOR YOUNG (COCKERHAM)2 COCKRUM (JOHN (COCKERHAM)1) He married MARY (MARYAN) UNKNOWN. Children of MINOR COCKRUM and MARY UNKNOWN are: i. CUZY3 COCKRUM. ii. PENELOPE COCKRUM. iii. CANDISH COCKRUM. Endnotes 1. Wilkes County Court Minutes, 1778-1788, June 8, 1779, Ord. Thomas Linvil, John Vanderpool, John Hues, Junr., Benjamin Bird, Wm. Ellison, William Triplet, CHARLES COCKRAM, Robert Sanders, Thomas Holeman, William Bunton, Thomas Cottrell, John Brown, Benjamin Howard, William Hughes, Mitchel Childress and James Brown view road from Near Thomas Johnsons up the Yadkin River into other road near Linvilles old meeting house................ 2. Wilkes County Court Minutes, 1778-1788, Oct. 31, 1788, 23 March 1799.....Between George Foster and Ephraim Davis.....50 Lbs 96 ac....N side Yadkin River.......adjoining Davises Plantation.......part 400 ac. granted Charles COCKRAM 23 Oct. 1782 Signed: George FosterWitnesses:Thomas RobinsJames PattonGeorge Jones. Gail [email protected] [email protected] BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! ----Original Message Follows---- From: teresa stuart de rios <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request Date: Fri, 16 Apr 2004 12:26:28 -0600 ŽHi Gail, I am interested in your Cockerham line. I have a Moses Cockerham who moved to Surry CO NC by 1771, I believe his father was John Cockerham and this line can be traced back to Surry CO VA. Moses was living in Lunenburg CO VA prior to the move to Surry CO NC. I have also a William Cockerham/Cockrum who moved to Buncombe CO NC by 1812 with my Stewart family. My Stewarts were neighbors to the CockerhamŽs in Surry CO NC since at least 1774. Abt. 1795 Edward and Nathaniel Stewart moved to Greenville CO SC, they are listed near some CockerhamŽs. By 1812 they are in Buncombe CO NC. William Cockerham married Betsy Stewart/Stuart and lived in the Buncombe, Macon CO NC area. Teresa Stuart de Rios [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "gail moore" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, April 16, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > Audrey and all, > My known at this time surnames in the area of Greenville Dist. South > Carolina are as follows: > > Cockrum seen sometimes as Cockerham but not often > Spillers > Cooley > Sparks > Pigg/Pegg > Wells > Jennins > Holland > Wester(n) > Hawkins > Above all known to be S.C. surnames > Crouch > White > Meeks > Above all known to be AL. surnames but could go back to SC as well > Hamrick > Entriken > McColman > Above all known to be GA surnames but could go back to AL and SC as well. > > I am 4th Great Granddaughter of Hezikiah Cockrum and I hold a copy of his > Grandson's Bible in which Hezikiah and his first wife Elizabeth are listed. > > Several of us worked together for many years until one member of our little > group died. I still miss her greatly. She was responsible for putting > online and available a lot of the transcribed works for the Greenville Dist. > site. Her name was Peggy Brown Chapman a very great lady and a dear and > close friend. > I shared with her my bible record and went online and accessed some of the > old VA Court Order books and did a full search of the online books for the > name Cockerham and Cockrum and sent copies of all listings from those books > to her. > A cousin of her's who I seem to have lost in > transit......................Frank Cockerham. (Frank if you see this please > give me a shout I have new information to share with you that I have found) > We shared back and forth, Peggy and Frank have more years at this than I do, > so they put a lot of it together with my constant questions and suggestions > to possible answers to what may have been to Peggy back and forth over the > years and then our silent partner and friend who must remain that way per > personal request......................................... > Here is the just of our story: > > A man named William Cockerham shows up in Caroline Co. vA prior to Caroline > becoming Caroline with a man named Daniel > Cockerham.............................. > > {We believe but can't prove yet that they were father and son or brothers > one} > > Court order books shows Daniel and Fran signing off a deed of > land...................... > > Next in Halifax Co. VA same Daniel {1} leaves a will with all to go to his > son Daniel {2}........... > We then find more land deed and other such records on this younger man > Daniel {2} and his wife Martha. > > Later in the court order books it reads that Martha Cockerham has wed Samuel > Pegg/Pigg > Then a large group of these folks move into Surry NC among them Hezikiah > Cockrum. > > Seems that Hezikiah Cockrum is Martha's son with Daniel Cockrum > {2}.............some of Hezikiah's siblings were also listed among these > court order books and this gave us a family picture plus other happenings as > time went on and we followed them. > > Hezikiah my line {this is where we begin be break off from each other in our > little group} married a total of three times. > > First to Elizabeth who is as yet unknown maiden name {boy I wish I could > learn who she may have been as she was the mother of all six of his > children} > > Second he married his Brothers' widow...............Juda Cooley Cockrum > Sparks.................... > NOW she was his brothers widow but in the meanwhile as Hez was with > Elizabeth she had re-married a second time to Jesse Sparks...........We have > his Will to prove this union. Then later she and Hez are sued over the > slaves listed in Jesse Sparks will...................... > > Juda was first a Cooley she then had married Daniel {3} a brother of Hez. > {Keep Count this now makes [3] Daniels' so far in this same > line..................Plus one of their children they had they named Daniel > so that makes [4] of them............... And that [4th] one is the very > same man that Hezikiah's baby daughter Nancy later on > marries........................... > > Next Hezikiah married a Sarah and again her maiden name is unknown to > us....but this wife is listed in his will. Which later on his by that time > grown and married daughter Elizabeth husband Thomas Holland contests and > sue's after the death of Sarah unknown to split her 1/2 of Hezikiahs's > Estate among his heirs..................we have those court > papers..............NOW these are like liquid gold...............they helped > us link folks together and help some of this all make sense. It brought us > forward in time and told who was kin and how and to whom! > > Now as I said Hez. had six children by Elizabeth his first wife and my 4th > Great Grandmother........... > William b.January 24, 1786 > John b.August 20, 1789 > Martha b.March 11, 1792 Nickname Patsey > Daniel b.June 04, 1794 {5} > Elizabeth b.February 28, 1796 > Nancy b.October 15, 1802 She is the one who married the [4th] Daniel > above son of Daniel and Juda. > > William married Mary Spillers daugher of George Spillers and this is my line > John married Sarah Wells and is the Father of George Seaborn Cockrum. > Martha married a Miles Jennins > Daniel {5} as far as is known now never marries but inheritates 1/2 of > Hezikiah's Estate as shown in his will. The 1/2 not listed later in Thomas > Holland and Heirs vs Estate of Hezikiah Cockrum. > Elizabeth married Thomas Holland and sued for division of 1/2 of Estate > left to Sarah opon death of Sarah later as Hez. made no provisions as to > what was to be done at that time with her 1/2. > Nancy the one who married the {4th Daniel} keep in mind her cousin and > step-brother. > > Next William and Mary Spillers Cockrum had the following 11 Children: > Irene > H.A. or Hezikiah Allen > Bethany > Caira a son > Enos > John Maloy Wilson > Cortes De Lafayette > Edward A. Cothrum {surname spelled this way in bible by this time} > George Washington Lafayette Cothrum {This is my Great-Grandfather and > org. owner of this bible} > Andrew Jackson Cothrum killed in CSA > Elizabeth Sarah Ann Cothrum > > > Of these 11 we find records on 9 of them and 1 dies at birth and one is lost > due to the strange name. Caira is not seen as a name for a > son.............I have never seen this name before this nor after and we > could never find another record of this child at all except in the family > bible. Cortes died at age 3 months. > > Irene never married that we have found. > > H.A. or Hezikiah Allen Cockrum married Methele Crouch and moved to Ceder > Bluff AL and had a store there. A daughter of theirs named Mary Jane > married William Marion Meeks of the Gadsden Times Newspaper and records on > them are numerous in that publication.............. > > Bethaney married William Hawkins > > Enos died at age of 4 years and this is in the bible records > > John married Sarah Ann Wester > > Edward A. Cothrum also known as E.A. and Judge Cothrum married Mary Ann > White he later on worked for his neice and her husband Mary Jane Meeks and > William Meeks and in fact died while working at that > paper...............according to that same paper he did have some children > who were in about 1870 living in Hamburg AK as he went to visit them around > the time of Christmas that year just prior to his later death. {I am trying > to make contact with any possible kin of this branch in hopes of seeing if > perhaps another family bible may have survived} > > George Washington Lafayette Cothrum This one {my own Great-Grandfather} > married Harriet McColman they are both buried beside each other in a private > family cemetery in Carroll County, GA called the Sharpe Family > Cemetery............her Mother was a Sharpe. > > They only had two chidren {how ever a family story goes that > Grandpa...........Ovid Dunlap...............told that he had 1/2 or step > siblings} I have no clue!! Grandpa was dead by the time I was born. One > may have been named Wade and he worked for the railroad. There is according > to the old newspaper records online at ancestry.com a wade Cockrum president > of the Roam Ga RR. But more needs to be done on that one. It does seem > strange that they only had two children. #1. Ovid Dunlap Cothran #2. Wiley > Odessa Cothran > > Ovid married Zona Almedia Entriken > Wiley Odessa Cothran married William T. Hamrick Sr. > > I could go on and on and on well I think you get the picture of > course..............I am always happy to share just ask some may be in > storage right now but that want last forever..........I hope! > > > Gail > [email protected] > [email protected] > BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! > > _________________________________________________________________ > From must-see cities to the best beaches, plan a getaway with the Spring > Travel Guide! http://special.msn.com/local/springtravel.armx > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina Resources Available at RootsWeb! > > http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Hello, Sorry so slow had to try and check the master source list in FTW and that is not so easy to do I might add. At least it was not so for me. Anyway, I now believe that this Wilkes Co. was in NC. I can better answer this question after I am moved if it is one that could wait. But from what I see in my files in my computer system. I am thinking Wilkes Co. NC as the Counties shown above and below are both NC as well. Gail [email protected] [email protected] BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! ----Original Message Follows---- From: [email protected] Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES For Teresa Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 15:38:53 EDT In a message dated 4/17/04 3:28:56 PM Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Endnotes 1. Wilkes County Court Minutes, 1778-1788, June 8, 1779, Ord. Thomas Linvil, John Vanderpool, John Hues, Junr., Benjamin Bird, Wm. Ellison, William Triplet, CHARLES COCKRAM, Robert Sanders, Thomas Holeman, William Gail, what state is this Wilkes County in? Davine ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== If you are leaving your current ISP, please unsubscribe! Digest [email protected] List [email protected] only one word in body of message UNSUBSCRIBE No signature/No nothing! ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Thank you Dolores, that is what I should have said. Ray > Subject: Re: [SC] Re: Tyger River/Craven County > From: "Dolores Pringle" <[email protected]> > Date: Mon, 10 May 2004 16:03:51 -0400 > To: [email protected] > > Let me try to give you a short and simple explanation of the old counties in > SC. First, pull out a map of current SC and look at it - notice the > triangle that is formed from the coast and moves westward. There were only > four counties early on, among them was Craven. > > As the westward expansion began, the four counties were expanded westward > in, more or less, straight lines until they ran out at the boundaries of the > state. That meant that Craven ran west and included the part of the Upstate > w/the Tyger River in it (the Tyger that you see on the maps). It's terribly > confusing if you aren't familiar with the history of the state, but maybe > this will help you a bit. I hope it will! > > God bless, > Dolores Miller Pringle >

Sorry about the posting of the full org. message but I wish very much to find out was this church located by chance in Murrary Co. GA??? If so I know who this man was. See: Misc. Deeds, Greenville Deeds N-338 (1809) and N-20 (1822) and Murray County GA Deed E-51 (1839), William Cockram was easier to trace thorough his land records than other Cockrams because he was a Baptist minister and therefore literate. This Characteristic of signing was helpful in his identification in Greenville Deeds and Murray County Georgia Deeds. By 1820 this is not the William showing on the US Census of Greenville even though there were two of them showing that year. He may have already moved to GA but was not found for that year in that state. By Greenville Deed N-20 dated March 8, 1822 he sold 100a of his Jameson Mill Creek tract. Does this not sound like this same man below in this earlier post? If perhaps this Mulberry Church was in deed located in Murrary Co. GA I think these men are really one and the same. And I can tell everyone on this list more if I know the answer to where this church was located?? Anyone??? Gail [email protected] [email protected] BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! ----Original Message Follows---- From: "Charlotte" <[email protected]> Reply-To: [email protected] To: [email protected] Subject: [SC] William L. Cochran b 1806 SC - Date: Thu, 6 May 2004 13:48:12 -0500 Because of the recent postings to this list regarding the surname COCHRAN, I wanted to share the information below with the list. I hastily add that I do not research the surname Cochran. Charlotte Tucker The Rev. William L. Cochran, the pastor of the church during the year of 1853-54 was born in South Carolina during the year of 1805. The oldest female in his family during the census of 1860 was Martha Emeline, born in 1826. He was, perhaps at the time, a widower and Martha was his daughter. His other children were Lucinda, born 1834; Samuel, born 1836; Jesse, born 1838, Eliza, born 1840; John, born 1842; Henry, born 1846 and Charles, born in 1848. Most of his children were members of the church. It appears that he lived in the community and participated in its life. It was his lot to again become pastor of the church in the immediate years ahead. . William L. Cochran served Mulberry Church as its pastor for the second time, this time being the years of 1860,1861, and 1862. SOURCE: Ulysses H. Abrams, A History of Mulberry Baptist Church 1818-1968: 34,36. Book is held by Samford University, Special Collections, Birmingham, Alabama. ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== Virus warnings are not welcome on this list. Remember when writing a query, to always put in DATES & LOCATIONS ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Looking for Hanlen -Elizabeth -Thank you. Joe Moore