Scrapbook of pictures and obits kept by Ella Ruth Hazel Trotter (1905-1963), d/o John Henry & Jamesanna Timmerman Hazel, (Copy provided by Betty Trotter, May 2004), obit of C. W. Maffett, d. Nov 25, 1958. C. W. Maffett, 63, Johnston -- C. W. Maffett, 63 died at 6:30 pm Tuesday at Self Memorial Hospital, Greenwood, after a serious illness of two weeks. He was in declining healt several years. Survivors include his widow, Mrs. Jessie Edwards Maffett; three children, Mrs. J. H. Cox of Ft. Lauderdale, FL, William E. Maffett of Johnston and C. W. "Jack" Maffett of Sandersville, GA; five grandchildren; one sister Mrs. L. D. Clark; and two brothers, Otis C. Maffett and W. Osborn Maffett of Savannah GA. Funeral plans are incomplete. He is buried in Mt. Olives Cem, Johnston, Edgefield Co, SC Maffett, Clarence Wyteman Jul 4 1895 Nov 25 1958 Maffett, Jessie [Irene] EDWARDS Nov 1 1895 Aug 2 1990 Is this the brother, also buried at Mt. Olives in Johnston, SC *Maffett, William Osborne Jul 15 1900 Oct 29 1971 Maffett, Willie JORDAN Mar 31 1899 Jan 30 1961 Maffett, Daughter Aug 24 1920 I cannot make the Edwards connection of his wife on this one. I have some other Maffetts who might connect to him, but I don't have any research to back it up. I don't work on this line. Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected]

Source: Scrapbook of pictures and obits kept by Ella Ruth Hazel Trotter (1905-1963), d/o John Henry & Jamesanna Timmerman Hazel, (Copy provided by Betty Trotter, May 2004). The following obit was on the same page in the scrapbook as the Bethelehem News that is placed in a separate post. It is the obit of the father of the Elizabeth Shaw who wrote the article for the paper. It may have been from a different edition of the paper. The cem. date for the death of Joe L. Shaw gives the date Jan 17, 1957. On the afternoon of Jan. 17, as the evening sun was setting at 5:30, Mr. Joe L. Shaw passed to his eternal reward following a 4 mo. illness. There were many hearts saddened over his goig for he was greatly beloved by all who knew him. He was patient, kind, and gentle. He was born Dec. 2, 1882, the son of the late Steve and Lizzie Riley Shaw. he was 74 years of age. He had lived in Saluda Co. all his life and in the Bethlehem section all of his married life except or 10 years in the Good Hope Section. He is survived by his widow, Mrs. Lydia Kemp Shaw and 2 daughters, Miss Elizabeth Shaw and Mrs. Lester Allen, and one grandson, Joe Lester (Allen) all of Johnston. Also surviving are 2 brothers, Frank and June Shaw and three sisters, Mrs. Smith Rushton, Mrs. Holly Hipp, and Mrs. Mott Yarborough, all of Saluda. He was a faithful member of Bethlehem Methodist Church, having served once for 25 years on the board of stewards. he loved all of his pastors. He was engaged in farming all of his life. He was a man who loved his work. Mr. Shaw stood for everything which was high and holy and for the betterment of the community. Everyone respected him as a citizen of the highest merit. he will be freatly missed in many ways. He loved hom and was always devoted to his family. He was also interested in State and National affairs..... The service was hel at Bethlehem Church Friday afternoon, Jam 18 at 3 o"clock by his pastor J. F. Williamson, assisted by Rev. Tommy Gibbons of Nichols, a former pastor, and Rev. J. G. Hipp of Holly Hill, a nephew...... Interment was in Bethlehem Church Cem... Active pallbearers were his nephews Preston Rushton, Shaw Rushton, John Andres Shaw, Robert Shaw, Manning Shaw and Willie Shaw. ----------------------------------- I worked on cem. records to see if I could identify any of the above folks and get dates for the family outline. These are the ones I found: Bethlehem Methodist Church cem, Saluda Co, records show the following: Shaw, Joe L. Dec 2 1882 Jan 17 1957 [HC calls him Joseph Littleton] Shaw, Lydia KEMP Jan 15 1883 Apr 3 1967 Shaw, Sarah Elizabeth Aug 31 1910 Also his sister Kate: [additions by HC Ouzts] Rushton, [Mark] M. Smith Dec 3 1886 May 12 1972 Rushton, Kate [SHAW] S. Feb 27 1892 Feb 6 1986 His daughter who married Lester Allen Allen, Lester Jones Mar 1 1911 Aug 17 1983 Allen, [Emma] Geraldine SHAW Jun 17 1914 Travis Park Cem. Records, Saluda Co, gives name to another daughter. Hipp, Holly H. Jan 1 1890 Aug 16 1964 Hipp, [R.] Belle SHAW Jan 11 1894 Jan 14 1976 Butler Meth, Saluda, Saluda Co, SC helps identify the daughter who married Mott Yarbrough and also he parents are there. Yarbrough, Ethel E. [Eugenia] SHAW Aug 2 1895- Sep 18 1981 Yarbrough, Motte Junius Oct 18 1895 - No date given Shaw, Stephen [Franklin], Jr. Oct 12 1924 Apr 17 1926 (?) Shaw, Joel Dwight Mar 26 1929 Jul 11 1930 (?) *Shaw, Stephen F. [Franklin] Dec 17 1851 Jan 17 1920 *Shaw, Elizabeth S. [(Lizzie) RILEY] Oct 22 1856 Feb 6 1902 Shaw, Lizzie Dec 23 1901 [? d/o above] Shaw, Eddie Aug 3 1886 Nov 15 1887 [? s/o above] I don''t know who the first two in the last posting above belong to, but will look up death cert. and post later. Hickory Grove Advent Church cem. records [brackets are comments of HC Ouzts] Shaw, Junius William [June] Feb 21 1890 - Apr 15 1966 [s/o Elizabeth (Lizzie) RILEY & Stephen Franklin Shaw] [m. Sophia COLEMAN] I have been working on connecting the above info. to the Hazel and Trotter lines about whom the scrapbook is focused. It seems that Matilda Louisa Edwards who married John Bland Hazel, of the Hazel family of this Bethlehem Community area (April 06, 1858-July 06, 1936) names a sister Julia Shaw of Saluda. And this seems to be the Julia Edwards Shaw who is buried at Travis Park Cem. per cem. Records: Shaw, Julia [M.] EDWARDS Feb 28 1863 Feb 4 1951 Edwards, [Benjamin Joseph] B. J. Nov 1 1850 Nov 6 1910 Edwards, John Crowder May 28 1854 Oct 24 1904 Edwards, William Suddath May 31 1884 Oct 30 1902 Edwards, Joe Ben Oct 1909 Jan 5 1913 Looks like this may be the connection to the Hazels, thru the Edwards family. HC Ouzts states that Julia Edwards is the 2nd wife of Joseph L. Shaw. And the dates match those of the Benjamin Edwards family who seems to be the father of both Matilda Edwards Hazel and Julia Edwards Shaw. After searching the census records, I can identify find the two sisters and also the brother Benjamin Joseph who is buried next to Julia above. using all the various census records we can get the names. CENSUS: 1850 Edgefield Dist, SC, p. 163A, hh# 66/66 Benjamin Edwards 36 M Farmer SC Julia A. Edwards 31 F SC Jemina Edwards 6 F SC Elizabeth Edwards 3 F SC Lewis Edwards 1 M SC Rebecca Edwards 70 F SC [Benjamin's mother??, aunt??] Anna Edwards 31 F SC [sister??] CENSUS: 1860 Edgefield Co, SC, Richardsonvill PO, hh#557/560 [Augusta Gen. Society transcription book] Benja. Edwards 46 M Farmer SC J. A. Edwards 42 F SC Mima Edwards 16 F SC [Jemima of 1850] Elizabeth Edwards 14 F SC Lewis Edwards 11 M SC Benja Edwards 9 M SC John Edwards 6 M SC James Edwards 4 M SC *Matilda Edwards 2 F SC CENSUS: 1870 Edgefield Co, SC, hh#2759 Benjamin Edwards, 56 W M $3000/1000 SC Julian Edwards, 51 F W SC Jamima Edwards, 26 F W SC Eliza A. Edwards, 24 F W SC Lewis Edwards, 21 M W SC Benjamin J. Edwards, 19 M W SC [same as Joseph B. in the 1880 census] John C. Edwards, 16 M W SC * M. L. Edwards, 12 F W SC [Matilda Louise who married John Bland Hazel] H. H. Edwards, 9 M W SC *Julia Edwards, 7 F S SC Julia who married Stephen Franklin Shaw CENSUS: 1880 Mobley, Edgefield, South Carolina, p. 280B [Source: FHL Film 1255228 National Archives Film T9-1228] Relation Sex Marr Race Age Birthplace Benjamin EDWARDS Self M W W 66 SC Occ: Farmer Fa: MD Mo: SC Joseph B EDWARDS Son M S W 29 SC Occ: Farmer Fa: SC Mo: SC John C EDWARDS Son M S W 26 SC Occ: Farmer Fa: SC Mo: SC Henry H EDWARDS Son M S W 20 SC Occ: Farm Laborer Fa: SC Mo: SC Julia M EDWARDS Dau F S W 17 SC Occ: Keeping House Fa: SC Mo: SC I don't have easy access to the later census records to find Julia Shaw with Mr. Shaw. Anyway, there does not seem to be blood kin here with the Hazels, and after I entered the folks into my computer one Steven Franklin Shaw is the son-in-law of Benjamin Edwards & wife Julia A. who is the father of Matilda Edwards who married John Bland Hazel. So Is Steve Shaw who married Lizzie Riley in the obit of Joe L. Shaw, the Same as the Stephen Franklin Shaw who married 2nd Julia Edwards??? I am assuming so.... but will welcome any correction to this assumption. So from the obit, the dates and info. from cemetery and census records, and the assumption that this is the Same Steve Shaw listed as husband of Julia Edwards in the obit of Mrs. John Bland (Matilda Edwards) Hazel in 1936, I have created the following outline of the family: Descendants of Stephen Franklin Shaw 1 Stephen Franklin SHAW b: December 17, 1851 d: January 17, 1920 Burial: Butler Methodist Cem, Saluda Co, SC . +Elizabeth S. 'Lizzie' RILEY b: October 22, 1856 d: February 06, 1902 Burial: Butler Methodist Cem, Saluda Co, SC ..... 2 Kate SHAW b: February 27, 1892 d: February 06, 1986 Burial: Bethlehem Methodist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC ......... +Mark Smith RUSHTON b: February 27, 1892 d: February 06, 1986 Burial: Bethlehem Methodist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC Father: Benjamin Frank Rushton Mother: Carrie Smith ............ 3 Preston RUSHTON ............ 3 Shaw RUSHTON ..... 2 Joseph L. SHAW b: December 02, 1882 in Saluda section, Edgefield Co, SC d: January 17, 1957 in Saluda, Saluda Co, SC Burial: Bethlehem Methodist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC ......... +Lydia KEMP b: January 15, 1883 d: April 03, 1967 Burial: Bethlehem Methodist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC ............ 3 Sarah Elizabeth SHAW b: August 31, 1910 ............ 3 Geraldine SHAW b: June 17, 1914 Burial: Bethlehem Methodist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC ................ +Lester ALLEN b: March 01, 1911 d: August 17, 1983 Burial: Bethlehem Methodist Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC ................... 4 Joe Lester ALLEN ..... 2 Frank SHAW ..... 2 June SHAW b: February 21, 1890 d: April 15, 1966 Burial: Hickory Grove Advent Christian Church Cem., Saluda Co, SC ......... +[Sophia COLEMAN] ..... 2 Belle SHAW b: January 11, 1894 d: January 14, 1976 Burial: Travis Park Cem, Saluda Co, SC ......... +Holly HIPP b: January 01, 1890 d: August 16, 1964 Burial: Travis Park Cem, Saluda Co, SC ..... 2 Ethel SHAW b: August 02, 1895 d: September 18, 1981 Burial: Butler Methodist Cem, Saluda Co, SC ......... +Mott YARBOROUGH b: October 18, 1895 Burial: Butler Methodist Cem, Saluda Co, SC ..... 2 Eddie SHAW b: August 03, 1886 d: November 15, 1887 Burial: Butler Methodist Cem, Saluda Co, SC ..... 2 Lizzie SHAW d: December 23, 1901 Burial: Butler Methodist Cem, Saluda Co, SC *2nd Wife of Stephen Franklin SHAW: . +Julia EDWARDS b: Abt. 1863 Father: Benjamin Edwards Mother: Julia A. Now.... are you as confused as I am? It took me two days to work this out trying to find the relationship... and I have NO connections to this family that I know of. If someone has info. on the Shaw folks I have not identified, please share to the lists. I really hope someone is working on this family, and this helps. But.... it was fun anyway. Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected]

Billie, I have a huge COLEMAN book and am wondering if this family fits with the Fairfield, SC to VA COLEMAN families. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lee and Billie Jones" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, May 15, 2004 5:53 PM Subject: [SC] Obit of Mrs. Carrie McCarty Coleman d. Feb 26 1957, Saluda. > From: the Scrapbook of pictures and obits kept by Ella Ruth Hazel Trotter > (1905-1963), d/o John Henry & Jamesanna Timmerman Hazel, (Copy provided by > Betty Trotter, May 2004). > > The clippings are not dated , but the cem. records for this couple gives her > death date as Feb. 26, 1957. I have not connected this one to the > Hazel/Trotter families. > > Obit of Mrs. Coleman, Saluda Co > > Saluda, Feb 26 (Special) > Mrs. Carrie McCarty Coleman, 72, lifelong resident of Hickory Grove > community of Saluda Co., Died at 7 am today at her home after a long period of > declining health. > She was the d/o the late A. P. and Tabitaj (sic) Thrainkill McCarty, both of > Saluda Co. She was a member oif Hickory Grove Adventist Christian Church. > Suvivors include her husband, Andrew Coleman; four sons, A. P. of Newberry, > Dam amd Bill Coleman of Anderson, and alfred Coleman of Saluda; three > daughters, Mrs. J. C. Martin of Newberry and Mrs. Fred Force and Mrs. J. W. > Shaw, both of Saluda; one brother, W. B. McCarty of Dallas, TX; 16 > grandchildren; nine great-grandchildren and nieces and nephews. > Funeral services will be conducted at 4:30 pm Wednesday from Hickory Grove > Adventist Christian Church by the Rev. James R. Lee, assisted by the Rev. B. F. > Baulknight and the Rev. George Sheppherd. Burial will be in the church cem. > The body will be at the home after 8:30 Wednesday. > > I found these two buried together in the Hickory Grove Cem: > Coleman, Carrie M. Mar 14 1885 - Feb 26 1957 > Coleman, Andrew T. Aug 13 1878 - Mar 22 1965 > > >From HC Ouzts Coleman file, he has this Andrew as the son of Milton E. Coleman > (b. 1842 Edgefield SC)[1850][1860](m. Nancy Ella Coleman (b. 1854 Edgefield > SC)[d/o Nancy C. Griffith & Andrew P. Coleman - Below], 12/1870)[1880] Edge > Marr > > Billie Jones > Camden, SC > [email protected] > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina Genealogical Resources > http://www.crosswinds.net/~southcarolina/Societies/societies.html > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >

The following is transcribed from a clipping in an unnamed newspaper, possibly the Saluda Standard. The Date is taken from the obit of Little Elliott Trotter who died Nov. 12, 1959 per his tombstone in the Red Bank Baptist Church Cem., whic was published on the same page. Source: Scrapbook of pictures and obits kept by Ella Ruth Hazel Trotter (1905-1963), d/o John Henry & Jamesanna Timmerman Hazel, (Copy provided by Betty Trotter, May 2004). Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected] --------------------------------------- BETHLEHEM NEWS by Elizabeth Shaw We read with interest where Mr. & Mrs. Hubert L. Roof announce the adoption of a baby girl, Carolyn Annette, born Sept 23, 1958. Mrs. Roof if the former Miss Jewel Holmes of this section and Columbia. They now reside at 1400-A Cherokee Rd., Florence. Rev. and Mrs. T. G. Gibbons and children of Lowndesville visited in this connunity last friday afternoon and night. They came for little Elliott Trotter's funeral. Mr. & Mrs. Fred Davis of West Columbia visited Mrs. J. H. Powell last Saturday. Mrs. J. L. Shaw and Miss Elizabeth Shaw, Mr. & Mrs. George Trotter and children were dinner guests in the hom of Mr. J. H. Hazel last Sunday. Miss Dempsey Clary of the Baptist Hospital in Columbia also attended Sunday School at Bethlehem Mrs. Harvey Holmes honored her little son Jerry with a birthday party at her home last Friday afternoon. This being his 6th birthday. A very enjoyable time was spend together. Mr. & Mrs. W. B. Wood, Mr. & Mrs. W. B. Wood, Mr. & Mrs. Jimmie R. Brantley of Wrightsville Ga, visited Mr. & Mrs. George Trotter Sunday afternoon in the home of Mr. J. Z. Hazel. Mr. Kirby Able also visited them. ------------------- The obit of Elliott Trotter followed. It will be posted later with the George Trotter family information. -------------------

Dear List Family, i am searching for my aunt, the sister of my mommy, CHRISTINE WILSON ESTES, she was born in 1908, in Tn, and died NOVEMBER 19th 1976 in SPARTANBURG, i have searched for my gramma and my moms siblings since she died in 1974, she had searched for them all of my life,as long as i can remember back, when she and my dad were murdered, i promised her and my heart,that i would finish the search in her honor, and now 30 years later, i have found her mommy, her 4 brothers and now her 'baby sister' as she always called Christine, i am now in need of finding her child/children and grandchildren, i do not know there names, and i need to find where she is buried, in Spartanburg, thank you so very very much, agape, Deborah ~~~~~~~~~~*~~~~~~~~~~ Our Family Website; http://www.geocities.com/jaybessieparton maternal side;Tennessee HELTON/ HILTON/ HYLTON-COLLINS-KITT-WILLIAMS-MAYES-MITCHELL-LANIER-PLAINE-ARWINE-CLEMENS-GARLAND-HARDWICK-WITT/ WHITT/ WHYTT/ DeWITT-LIPTROT-ROGERS-DAUX/ DAWKES-MITCHELL-BURGESS-WILSON-BERRY-LOYD-CHAMBERS-LUCK-SMITH-FROST-ANDRESEN-GARLAND-GORDON-PAINTER-ROSSER-NEAVIL-SMITH-SATTERFIELD-LAMB-and many others paternal side; Kentucky PARTON/ PARTIN-HELTON/ HYLTON/ HILTON-FOLEY-HUBBARD-LEIGH / LAY-TRIMBLE-TARTER-DORTER-BALTHSER-FLEMING-LOGAN-HAWKINS-ENGLAND-ENGLE-STRUM-BEYERLE-CAMPBELL-WOODS-MUNCY/ MUNCIE-WARREN-UTTERBACK/ OTTERBACK-COBB-FISHBACK-LOWE-MC/FARLAND-MOTT-SHERROD-SUTTON-JONES-STANFIELD/ STANFILL-THOMAS-PORTER-MAILAND-LAUDERDALE-RICHER/RECTOR-HITT/ WHITT/ WHYTT-GOLDEN-GREEN/GREENE-and many more Luke 8:10, Make your own Miracles Our Cattery Website; http://www.angelfire.com/ok3/agapewillows1/ --------------------------------------------------------------------------------

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Please make any responses to the lists. I do not know any more about these folks. I am just the messanger. I don't believe they connect to the Hazel-Trotter family I am working on, but are known thru their ministry. Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected] From the Scrapbook of pictures and obits kept by Ella Ruth Hazel Trotter (1905-1963), d/o John Henry & Jamesanna Timmerman Hazel, (Copy provided by Betty Trotter, May 2004), two clippings on the Henry Belle White family. Picture and announcement of 50th wedding anniversary. From Columbia, SC, Sunday Feb. 17, 1946 paper. The Rev. and Mrs. Henry Belle White, who celebrated their fiftieth wedding anniversay Dec. 25 at their home near Saluda. Over 100 guests called. Mrs. White, the former Ardea Attaway was married to the Rev. Mr. White, Dec. 25, 1895. At the time of his marriage Mrs. White was not a minister, having been ordained at the age of 36. Before joining the ministry he was twice elected treasurer of the county. Courthouse officials and business places generally closed and were present at the ordination services in old Red Bank church, where the couple had been married. He has had continuous work and has served Rocky Creek Baptist church near the Saluda Edgefield Co. line for 28 yhears, and Steven Creek church in edgefield Co. for 30 years. The Rev. & Mrs. White are the parents of John H. White of Florence, R. Cooper White of Greenville, *Miss Muriel ("Dolly") White of Saluda, *Miss Leilah Mac White, a registered nurse, and a son and daughter who are deceased, *Hallette W. White who died in 1919 and *Miss Mary Bell White who died in 1932. Mrs. White, 78, of Saluda Dies - March 28 (Special) -- Mrs. H. B. White, 78, the former Miss R. D. Attaway, died at her home here at 9 o'clock Tuesday afternboon byt the Rev. T. E. Robinett assisted by the Rev. B.F. Carson. Burial will be in the church cem. Mrs. White had been a member of the Red Bank church for 66 years, and had taught Sunday School class for over 30 years. Survivors include her husband, the Rev. H. B. White; two daughters Miss Murial White and Miss Leilah Mae White, both of Saluda; two sons, Joe H. White of Florence and R. Cooper White of Greenville; seven grandchildren; nine great-grandchildren; and two sisters, Miss Leilah Attaway of Saluda and Mrs. Cleo A. Ridgell of Batesburg. The family requests that flowers be omitted. Friends wishing to do so may contribute to a lasting memorial. No date is given on the obit. However, the following is copied from the Red Bank Cem. Records sent to me by HC Ouzts which seems to be the Rev. his wife and 4 daughter who are identified in the anniversary announcement, placing her date of death as Mar 28 1954 White, Ardea ATTAWAY Feb 20 1876 Mar 28 1954 White, Rev. Henry Bell Oct 27 1873 Dec 12 1962 *White, Ardea Muriel Nov 6 1901 Jan 14 1987 *White, Hallette Watson Aug 15 1899 Jul 21 1919 *White, Leilah Mae Dec 30 1903 Jul 18 1961 *White, Mary Belle Aug 26 1896 Nov 19 1932 [One question that comes to my mind, as a Baptist..... how did she continue to be a member of Red Bank for 66 years and teach Sunday School while her husband was ministering to at least two other churches in the area. By todays standards, that is strange. I guess if he was splitting his time between the two church and traveled to them, possibly wives did not travel with their husbands.]

From: the Scrapbook of pictures and obits kept by Ella Ruth Hazel Trotter (1905-1963), d/o John Henry & Jamesanna Timmerman Hazel, (Copy provided by Betty Trotter, May 2004). The clippings are not dated , but the cem. records for this couple gives her death date as Feb. 26, 1957. I have not connected this one to the Hazel/Trotter families. Obit of Mrs. Coleman, Saluda Co Saluda, Feb 26 (Special) Mrs. Carrie McCarty Coleman, 72, lifelong resident of Hickory Grove community of Saluda Co., Died at 7 am today at her home after a long period of declining health. She was the d/o the late A. P. and Tabitaj (sic) Thrainkill McCarty, both of Saluda Co. She was a member oif Hickory Grove Adventist Christian Church. Suvivors include her husband, Andrew Coleman; four sons, A. P. of Newberry, Dam amd Bill Coleman of Anderson, and alfred Coleman of Saluda; three daughters, Mrs. J. C. Martin of Newberry and Mrs. Fred Force and Mrs. J. W. Shaw, both of Saluda; one brother, W. B. McCarty of Dallas, TX; 16 grandchildren; nine great-grandchildren and nieces and nephews. Funeral services will be conducted at 4:30 pm Wednesday from Hickory Grove Adventist Christian Church by the Rev. James R. Lee, assisted by the Rev. B. F. Baulknight and the Rev. George Sheppherd. Burial will be in the church cem. The body will be at the home after 8:30 Wednesday. I found these two buried together in the Hickory Grove Cem: Coleman, Carrie M. Mar 14 1885 - Feb 26 1957 Coleman, Andrew T. Aug 13 1878 - Mar 22 1965 From HC Ouzts Coleman file, he has this Andrew as the son of Milton E. Coleman (b. 1842 Edgefield SC)[1850][1860](m. Nancy Ella Coleman (b. 1854 Edgefield SC)[d/o Nancy C. Griffith & Andrew P. Coleman - Below], 12/1870)[1880] Edge Marr Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected]

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Sorry to be so long in a response to Gail Moore. Gail wanted to know where the Mulberry Baptist Church was located. Ulysses H. Abrams in his book "The History of Mulberry Baptist Church The Early Community and The Church" states the church was organized in Alabama sometime during the year 1818. The members came from "east central Georgia, known as the Edgefield District of South Carolina". Some of the older members were from "...Pennsylvania and Maryland". According to Mr. Abrams, the church was in Bibb County Alabama for 50 years until the county boundary changed and the community then became a part of Chilton Co AL in 1868. The copy of Mr. Abrams book I used is in the Samford University's Special Collection in Birmingham, AL. It will not circulate. I sincerely hope this will help ... Charlotte Tucker Tuscaloosa, AL A 7th Generation Leverett Researcher Va 1749 - SC 1790 - 1839 AL

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Found these in a notebook that I had copied a while back and never put into my files or sent to the lists. They were transcribed from the microfilmed copy of the original death cert. available 1915 - 1952, located at the Camden Archives, Camden, SC. Hope they help someone. Billie Jones Camden, SC [email protected] ---------------------------------------------------- 1921 - Death Certificate of Mary Freeland, 1921 Cert. #9315, McCormick Co, SC Mrs. Mary Freeland White, Female, widow b. August 25, 1831, Edgefield Co, SC father: Joe Parkman, Edgefield Co, SC mother: ______, SC d. June 7, 1921, Plum Branch, McCormick Co., SC cause: forgot to copy informant: Robert Freeland, Plum Branch, SC buried: Family Cem. UT: J. __ Strom, McCormick, SC HC Ouzts' Parkman file contains the following info. on Mary Parkman: Mary Parkman (b. 1832 SC, d. 6/7/1921)[1850](m. Sanford Eugene Freeland (b. 8/2/1842 SC, d. 8/7/1904)[s/o Caroline Augusta Butler & James Manning Corey Freeland], 2/16/1860)[1870] Freeland Cem McCormick SC [McC Families] [Edge Marr] -------------------------------------------------------- 1926 - Death Certificate # 7240, Richland Co, SC John H. Cogburn Male, White, age 65, merchant, no birthdate given father: John Cogburn, SC mother: Mary Hart, SC d. April 5, 1926, Richland Co, SC cause: cerebral hemmorhage; chronic nephritis; artereosclerosis informnt: Miss Reba Cogburn, Columbia, SC buried: Stevens Creek Church yard UT: J. S. Dunbar, Columbia, SC He and his wife are buried in Little Stevens Creek Bapt church cem.per records sent to me by HC Ouzts: Cogburn, John H. [Harmon] [Dec] 1860 1926 Cogburn, Irene [E.] STEVENS [Mar] 1868 1944 [Bracketed info. added by HC. Possible months probably came from census records] --------------------------------------------. 1944 - Death Certificate # 1083, Richland Co, SC Mrs. Irene Stevens Cogburn Female, White, widow of John H. Cogburn, lived 1126 Gregg St., [Columbia, SC] b. Nov 12, 1868, Edgefield Co, SC father: Asa Stevens, Edgefield Co, SC mother: Rebecca Green, Edgefield Co, SC d. Jan 24, 1944, Columbia, Richland Co., SC cause: arterio Vascular Renal disease informant: Miss Reba Cogburn, Columbia, [Richland Co, SC] buried: Stevens Creek Cem. UT: Dunbar, Columbia, SC She is buried in Little Stevens Creek Baptist Church cem. beside her husband. ***Her father Asa seems to have married several times. I cannot find him in the 1850 census. If someone has this, I would appreciate the info. ---------------------------------------------------

Thanks for the reply --I keep hoping to expand beyond my direct line kinta -----Original Message----- From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 5:02 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC] ROBERTS Hi Kinta, No, they are from Robert Tucker born 1652, Charles City CO. VA and wife Elizabeth Coleman born abt. 1657, Charles City Co, VA. Their son, Capt. Robert Tucker born 1676 in Charles City CO VA married Elizabeth Parham in 1698, dau of Thomas and Elizabeth Branch Parham. Robert JR married 2nd, Martha Eppes in 1720. Robert Jr died in Amelia CO VA in 1744. My Snow line starts abt 1725 in Spotsylvania CO VA (first documented), migrating into Orange, Albemarle, Louisa CO VA and in 1785 to Surry CO NC. It is thought by some (not proved), that the Snow line comes from St Mary´s CO MD. early 1600´s, Justinian Snow from England, a confidant of Lord Baltimore. Teresa Stuart de Rios ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kinta Delamain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: RE: [SC] ROBERTS > Teresa, which TUCKER line do you have -- does it go back to ROBERT TUCKER > who arrive in Colonies in the early 1600's ??? Does your SNOW go to SALLY > SNOW, married Zelotes Tucker, 13 April 1803???? I have nothing more on > Sally Snow but do have lots on Tucker line from Robert. There is a NICHOLAS > SNOW that came over on the "ANN" but I have not been able to connect him > to Sally. > Nicholas founded Eastham, Mass. Would love to tie some of this together. > kinta > nc > > -----Original Message----- > From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SC] ROBERTS > > > Lisa, > The first Robert´s I find in Surry CO NC wwre James and John Robert´s listed > together with 5 polls(3 slaves) on the 1774 tithables. Did any of your > Robert´s family intermarry with the HOLDER family and were they in > Greenville, SC? > SMITH is always a tough name to search, their were a few lines in Surry CO > NC. The only one I have followed, is the Charles Smith Anne Mallory line > out of Orange CO VA. They intermarried with my SNOW and TUCKER lines in > Surry CO NC. > Teresa Stuart de Rios > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisa Grimes" <[email protected]> > To: "teresa stuart de rios" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:42 PM > Subject: RE: [SC] ROBERTS > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] > > >>Gail, you mention ROBERTS: > > >>.....There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC > > >> and Buncombe CO NC. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Yes... that ARE lots of ROBERTS in Surry Co. NC.... > > It's the sorting them out... that's been all the fun. > > > > You see... I have a whole ROBERTS family that married into > > my SMITH family.... between 1790-1825, and I've not been > > able to make a dent on this line. Nor have I found any > > on the background for this particular SMITH line... altho > > I can find every one of my known ancestors......... on the > > 1790 Census Index for Surry Co. NC. Most are later in TN > > in the .....Bedford, Coffee and Lincoln County areas. > > > > Here's a basic outline... and all family lines had their > > origins in Surry Co. NC..... before migrating to GA and TN: > > > > John Jackson SMITH Jr [b. 1767-68] > > m. Patsy HAGGARD [b. 1770-72] Surry Co. NC > > d/o, Samuel HAGGARD Sr [b. 1749-1756] > > m. Nancy HIX [or HICKS] > > CH: > > 1. Sarah SMITH, b. 1793 NC, m. John HAGGARD > > 2. Anna SMITH, b. 1797 GA, m. Alfred HAGGARD > > 3. Mary "Polly" SMITH, b. 1801 GA, m. James C. GREEN *** > > 4. [_?_] SMITH b. 1803-1805 > > 5. Josiah SMITH, b. 1807 GA, m. Nancy ROBERTS > > 6. Hannah SMITH, b. 1811 GA, m. Joseph ROBERTS > > 7. Rebecca SMITH, b. 1809 TN, m. Zephaniah ROBERTS, TN > > 8. Malinda SMITH, b. 1812 TN, m. William ROBERTS > > 9. John Jackson SMITH [III] > > b. 1813 TN, m. Jane ROBERTS > > > > *** Mary "Polly" SMITH m. James C. GREEN are my line. > > We know that there were NINE children... but we haven't > > been able to find a name for that 4th child. > > > > Here's hoping someone out there will recognize this group > > of ROBERTS siblings??? > > > > Lisa Grimes > > [email protected] > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > -----Original Message----- > > From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:11 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > > > > > > Gail, you mention ROBERTS: > > Nov. 30, 1829, Buncombe Co., Jacob Stuart to Swain Cockerham, $200.00 > > for 100 acres (including the Thomas Rogers family plantation) on Avery > > Creek. Witnesses: A. B. Carland and Wm. Roberts. Recorded and proven by > > subscribing of A. B. Carland. > > There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC and Buncombe CO NC. > > On this deed, A. B. Carland is the son of John Carlin found on the 1800 > and > > 1810 Greenville CO SC census. > > Teresa > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "gail moore" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:23 AM > > Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > > > > > > > Gail, yes this is a line I follow. > > > Moses son of old John came to Surry CO NC by 1771, some say his nephew > > > David, son of his deceased brother John JR came with him. I have the > > 1771, > > > 1772 tax list of Surry CO. Moses Cockerham is the first there. I > believe > > > some of this Cockerham line moved to Rutherford CO NC, GA and LA. > > > Wilkes CO NC was created from part of Surry abt 1778, in the next 10 to > 12 > > > years part of Wilkes went back to Surry and vice versa. > > > Also, be aware there was a fairly large Cockerham line in Henry, > Franklin > > CO > > > VA. Names included, Abner, Nathaniel, Edward, Cheadle Cockerham. Henry > Co > > > VA bordered at one time 1777-1791 on the NC line with Surry CO NC, > > although > > > this Cockerham line seems to be in present Franklin CO VA and Patrick CO > > VA. > > > Teresa > > > > > > > > > > > > Teresa, > > > Cheadle Cockerham connects into Moses! Cheadle Cockerham and Daniel #1 > > were > > > brothers'. We have proven that via old VA Ct. Order Books (Online). > > > Then when Daniel #1 married he named a son Cheadle only it was spelled a > > bit > > > different by that time as Chesley. This Chesley grew up and married > > > Margaret (Peggy) Martin. Peggy B. Chapman named the article that her > and > > > Frank wrote and published after *****This man***** > > > > > > This man also named a son Daniel b. Bet. 1782 - 1884 as best we could > come > > > to a date for this one. > > > Then this Daniel is the one who married Elizabeth Roberts!! They > married > > as > > > best we could guess about 1820 and did have the following children: > > > > > > Allen C. Cockerham Cothran (the C could therefore stand for Cheadle > or > > > Chesley either one after his Grandfathers') > > > > > > Richard Cockerham Cothran > > > > > > Lydia Cockerham Cothran > > > > > > *****NOTE Disregaurd the use of COCKERHAM and aslo that of COTHRAN > > these > > > were used in order to make the program perform correctly and do what we > > > needed it to do************** > > > They do belong with this family but I will not even guess as to the > > correct > > > spelling that they were at this time using. > > > > > > I grew up using Cothran myself as did my Father and his Father before > him. > > > And my GreatGrandfather is buried underneath a tombstone that reads the > > same > > > way! > > > > > > Teresa, I do believe this is the same folks that you were looking for. > My > > > Grandmother Cothran told me that there were some Roberts in our family > she > > > just never explained if it were the Cothran's or the Entriken's that she > > was > > > talking about. > > > > > > Gail > > > > > > > > > > > > Gail > > > [email protected] > > > [email protected] > > > BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! > > > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy > research > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Order the death cert. for the one you have the date for and go by what that has to say. That would be my next move on this mess. Gail [email protected] [email protected] BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching!

Yes we knew that, that is their connection to each other somehow. Gail [email protected] [email protected] BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching!

Teresa, which TUCKER line do you have -- does it go back to ROBERT TUCKER who arrive in Colonies in the early 1600's ??? Does your SNOW go to SALLY SNOW, married Zelotes Tucker, 13 April 1803???? I have nothing more on Sally Snow but do have lots on Tucker line from Robert. There is a NICHOLAS SNOW that came over on the "ANN" but I have not been able to connect him to Sally. Nicholas founded Eastham, Mass. Would love to tie some of this together. kinta nc -----Original Message----- From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:56 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC] ROBERTS Lisa, The first Robert´s I find in Surry CO NC wwre James and John Robert´s listed together with 5 polls(3 slaves) on the 1774 tithables. Did any of your Robert´s family intermarry with the HOLDER family and were they in Greenville, SC? SMITH is always a tough name to search, their were a few lines in Surry CO NC. The only one I have followed, is the Charles Smith Anne Mallory line out of Orange CO VA. They intermarried with my SNOW and TUCKER lines in Surry CO NC. Teresa Stuart de Rios ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lisa Grimes" <[email protected]> To: "teresa stuart de rios" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:42 PM Subject: RE: [SC] ROBERTS > -----Original Message----- > From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] > >>Gail, you mention ROBERTS: > >>.....There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC > >> and Buncombe CO NC. > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > Yes... that ARE lots of ROBERTS in Surry Co. NC.... > It's the sorting them out... that's been all the fun. > > You see... I have a whole ROBERTS family that married into > my SMITH family.... between 1790-1825, and I've not been > able to make a dent on this line. Nor have I found any > on the background for this particular SMITH line... altho > I can find every one of my known ancestors......... on the > 1790 Census Index for Surry Co. NC. Most are later in TN > in the .....Bedford, Coffee and Lincoln County areas. > > Here's a basic outline... and all family lines had their > origins in Surry Co. NC..... before migrating to GA and TN: > > John Jackson SMITH Jr [b. 1767-68] > m. Patsy HAGGARD [b. 1770-72] Surry Co. NC > d/o, Samuel HAGGARD Sr [b. 1749-1756] > m. Nancy HIX [or HICKS] > CH: > 1. Sarah SMITH, b. 1793 NC, m. John HAGGARD > 2. Anna SMITH, b. 1797 GA, m. Alfred HAGGARD > 3. Mary "Polly" SMITH, b. 1801 GA, m. James C. GREEN *** > 4. [_?_] SMITH b. 1803-1805 > 5. Josiah SMITH, b. 1807 GA, m. Nancy ROBERTS > 6. Hannah SMITH, b. 1811 GA, m. Joseph ROBERTS > 7. Rebecca SMITH, b. 1809 TN, m. Zephaniah ROBERTS, TN > 8. Malinda SMITH, b. 1812 TN, m. William ROBERTS > 9. John Jackson SMITH [III] > b. 1813 TN, m. Jane ROBERTS > > *** Mary "Polly" SMITH m. James C. GREEN are my line. > We know that there were NINE children... but we haven't > been able to find a name for that 4th child. > > Here's hoping someone out there will recognize this group > of ROBERTS siblings??? > > Lisa Grimes > [email protected] > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > -----Original Message----- > From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:11 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > > > Gail, you mention ROBERTS: > Nov. 30, 1829, Buncombe Co., Jacob Stuart to Swain Cockerham, $200.00 > for 100 acres (including the Thomas Rogers family plantation) on Avery > Creek. Witnesses: A. B. Carland and Wm. Roberts. Recorded and proven by > subscribing of A. B. Carland. > There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC and Buncombe CO NC. > On this deed, A. B. Carland is the son of John Carlin found on the 1800 and > 1810 Greenville CO SC census. > Teresa > > > . > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gail moore" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:23 AM > Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > > > > Gail, yes this is a line I follow. > > Moses son of old John came to Surry CO NC by 1771, some say his nephew > > David, son of his deceased brother John JR came with him. I have the > 1771, > > 1772 tax list of Surry CO. Moses Cockerham is the first there. I believe > > some of this Cockerham line moved to Rutherford CO NC, GA and LA. > > Wilkes CO NC was created from part of Surry abt 1778, in the next 10 to 12 > > years part of Wilkes went back to Surry and vice versa. > > Also, be aware there was a fairly large Cockerham line in Henry, Franklin > CO > > VA. Names included, Abner, Nathaniel, Edward, Cheadle Cockerham. Henry Co > > VA bordered at one time 1777-1791 on the NC line with Surry CO NC, > although > > this Cockerham line seems to be in present Franklin CO VA and Patrick CO > VA. > > Teresa > > > > > > > > Teresa, > > Cheadle Cockerham connects into Moses! Cheadle Cockerham and Daniel #1 > were > > brothers'. We have proven that via old VA Ct. Order Books (Online). > > Then when Daniel #1 married he named a son Cheadle only it was spelled a > bit > > different by that time as Chesley. This Chesley grew up and married > > Margaret (Peggy) Martin. Peggy B. Chapman named the article that her and > > Frank wrote and published after *****This man***** > > > > This man also named a son Daniel b. Bet. 1782 - 1884 as best we could come > > to a date for this one. > > Then this Daniel is the one who married Elizabeth Roberts!! They married > as > > best we could guess about 1820 and did have the following children: > > > > Allen C. Cockerham Cothran (the C could therefore stand for Cheadle or > > Chesley either one after his Grandfathers') > > > > Richard Cockerham Cothran > > > > Lydia Cockerham Cothran > > > > *****NOTE Disregaurd the use of COCKERHAM and aslo that of COTHRAN > these > > were used in order to make the program perform correctly and do what we > > needed it to do************** > > They do belong with this family but I will not even guess as to the > correct > > spelling that they were at this time using. > > > > I grew up using Cothran myself as did my Father and his Father before him. > > And my GreatGrandfather is buried underneath a tombstone that reads the > same > > way! > > > > Teresa, I do believe this is the same folks that you were looking for. My > > Grandmother Cothran told me that there were some Roberts in our family she > > just never explained if it were the Cothran's or the Entriken's that she > was > > talking about. > > > > Gail > > > > > > > > Gail > > [email protected] > > [email protected] > > BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy research http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ ============================== Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237

Hi Kinta, No, they are from Robert Tucker born 1652, Charles City CO. VA and wife Elizabeth Coleman born abt. 1657, Charles City Co, VA. Their son, Capt. Robert Tucker born 1676 in Charles City CO VA married Elizabeth Parham in 1698, dau of Thomas and Elizabeth Branch Parham. Robert JR married 2nd, Martha Eppes in 1720. Robert Jr died in Amelia CO VA in 1744. My Snow line starts abt 1725 in Spotsylvania CO VA (first documented), migrating into Orange, Albemarle, Louisa CO VA and in 1785 to Surry CO NC. It is thought by some (not proved), that the Snow line comes from St Mary´s CO MD. early 1600´s, Justinian Snow from England, a confidant of Lord Baltimore. Teresa Stuart de Rios ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kinta Delamain" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 2:33 PM Subject: RE: [SC] ROBERTS > Teresa, which TUCKER line do you have -- does it go back to ROBERT TUCKER > who arrive in Colonies in the early 1600's ??? Does your SNOW go to SALLY > SNOW, married Zelotes Tucker, 13 April 1803???? I have nothing more on > Sally Snow but do have lots on Tucker line from Robert. There is a NICHOLAS > SNOW that came over on the "ANN" but I have not been able to connect him > to Sally. > Nicholas founded Eastham, Mass. Would love to tie some of this together. > kinta > nc > > -----Original Message----- > From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 3:56 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SC] ROBERTS > > > Lisa, > The first Robert´s I find in Surry CO NC wwre James and John Robert´s listed > together with 5 polls(3 slaves) on the 1774 tithables. Did any of your > Robert´s family intermarry with the HOLDER family and were they in > Greenville, SC? > SMITH is always a tough name to search, their were a few lines in Surry CO > NC. The only one I have followed, is the Charles Smith Anne Mallory line > out of Orange CO VA. They intermarried with my SNOW and TUCKER lines in > Surry CO NC. > Teresa Stuart de Rios > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Lisa Grimes" <[email protected]> > To: "teresa stuart de rios" <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 12:42 PM > Subject: RE: [SC] ROBERTS > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] > > >>Gail, you mention ROBERTS: > > >>.....There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC > > >> and Buncombe CO NC. > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > > > Yes... that ARE lots of ROBERTS in Surry Co. NC.... > > It's the sorting them out... that's been all the fun. > > > > You see... I have a whole ROBERTS family that married into > > my SMITH family.... between 1790-1825, and I've not been > > able to make a dent on this line. Nor have I found any > > on the background for this particular SMITH line... altho > > I can find every one of my known ancestors......... on the > > 1790 Census Index for Surry Co. NC. Most are later in TN > > in the .....Bedford, Coffee and Lincoln County areas. > > > > Here's a basic outline... and all family lines had their > > origins in Surry Co. NC..... before migrating to GA and TN: > > > > John Jackson SMITH Jr [b. 1767-68] > > m. Patsy HAGGARD [b. 1770-72] Surry Co. NC > > d/o, Samuel HAGGARD Sr [b. 1749-1756] > > m. Nancy HIX [or HICKS] > > CH: > > 1. Sarah SMITH, b. 1793 NC, m. John HAGGARD > > 2. Anna SMITH, b. 1797 GA, m. Alfred HAGGARD > > 3. Mary "Polly" SMITH, b. 1801 GA, m. James C. GREEN *** > > 4. [_?_] SMITH b. 1803-1805 > > 5. Josiah SMITH, b. 1807 GA, m. Nancy ROBERTS > > 6. Hannah SMITH, b. 1811 GA, m. Joseph ROBERTS > > 7. Rebecca SMITH, b. 1809 TN, m. Zephaniah ROBERTS, TN > > 8. Malinda SMITH, b. 1812 TN, m. William ROBERTS > > 9. John Jackson SMITH [III] > > b. 1813 TN, m. Jane ROBERTS > > > > *** Mary "Polly" SMITH m. James C. GREEN are my line. > > We know that there were NINE children... but we haven't > > been able to find a name for that 4th child. > > > > Here's hoping someone out there will recognize this group > > of ROBERTS siblings??? > > > > Lisa Grimes > > [email protected] > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > > -----Original Message----- > > From: teresa stuart de rios [mailto:[email protected]] > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 10:11 AM > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > > > > > > Gail, you mention ROBERTS: > > Nov. 30, 1829, Buncombe Co., Jacob Stuart to Swain Cockerham, $200.00 > > for 100 acres (including the Thomas Rogers family plantation) on Avery > > Creek. Witnesses: A. B. Carland and Wm. Roberts. Recorded and proven by > > subscribing of A. B. Carland. > > There were PLENTY of Roberts in Surry CO NC and Buncombe CO NC. > > On this deed, A. B. Carland is the son of John Carlin found on the 1800 > and > > 1810 Greenville CO SC census. > > Teresa > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "gail moore" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 9:23 AM > > Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > > > > > > > Gail, yes this is a line I follow. > > > Moses son of old John came to Surry CO NC by 1771, some say his nephew > > > David, son of his deceased brother John JR came with him. I have the > > 1771, > > > 1772 tax list of Surry CO. Moses Cockerham is the first there. I > believe > > > some of this Cockerham line moved to Rutherford CO NC, GA and LA. > > > Wilkes CO NC was created from part of Surry abt 1778, in the next 10 to > 12 > > > years part of Wilkes went back to Surry and vice versa. > > > Also, be aware there was a fairly large Cockerham line in Henry, > Franklin > > CO > > > VA. Names included, Abner, Nathaniel, Edward, Cheadle Cockerham. Henry > Co > > > VA bordered at one time 1777-1791 on the NC line with Surry CO NC, > > although > > > this Cockerham line seems to be in present Franklin CO VA and Patrick CO > > VA. > > > Teresa > > > > > > > > > > > > Teresa, > > > Cheadle Cockerham connects into Moses! Cheadle Cockerham and Daniel #1 > > were > > > brothers'. We have proven that via old VA Ct. Order Books (Online). > > > Then when Daniel #1 married he named a son Cheadle only it was spelled a > > bit > > > different by that time as Chesley. This Chesley grew up and married > > > Margaret (Peggy) Martin. Peggy B. Chapman named the article that her > and > > > Frank wrote and published after *****This man***** > > > > > > This man also named a son Daniel b. Bet. 1782 - 1884 as best we could > come > > > to a date for this one. > > > Then this Daniel is the one who married Elizabeth Roberts!! They > married > > as > > > best we could guess about 1820 and did have the following children: > > > > > > Allen C. Cockerham Cothran (the C could therefore stand for Cheadle > or > > > Chesley either one after his Grandfathers') > > > > > > Richard Cockerham Cothran > > > > > > Lydia Cockerham Cothran > > > > > > *****NOTE Disregaurd the use of COCKERHAM and aslo that of COTHRAN > > these > > > were used in order to make the program perform correctly and do what we > > > needed it to do************** > > > They do belong with this family but I will not even guess as to the > > correct > > > spelling that they were at this time using. > > > > > > I grew up using Cothran myself as did my Father and his Father before > him. > > > And my GreatGrandfather is buried underneath a tombstone that reads the > > same > > > way! > > > > > > Teresa, I do believe this is the same folks that you were looking for. > My > > > Grandmother Cothran told me that there were some Roberts in our family > she > > > just never explained if it were the Cothran's or the Entriken's that she > > was > > > talking about. > > > > > > Gail > > > > > > > > > > > > Gail > > > [email protected] > > > [email protected] > > > BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! > > > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > Best Website around for South Carolina SCGenWeb - South Carolina Genealogy > research > http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Hills/3837/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. 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Gail, do you have the book, "Gone to Georgia" by William C. Stewart? Lots of Cockerham´s in this book. Teresa ----- Original Message ----- From: "teresa stuart de rios" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 11:43 AM Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > Gail, here are the Cockerham´s that appear in the Surry CO NC Court Minute > Book 1768-1789. > William, Hezekiah, Humphrey, Daniel, Moses and William. > 1786 Surry Co tax list, Cooks district, Andrew Robinson Collector. Hezekiah > Cockram. > Teresa > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "gail moore" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, May 12, 2004 10:52 AM > Subject: Re: [SC] MY SC SURNAMES per Audrey's request > > > > Yes we knew that, that is their connection to each other somehow. > > > > > > > > Gail > > [email protected] > > [email protected] > > BUT ALWAYS embracer and always searching! > > > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > > South Carolina GenForum Page > > http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/ > > > > ============================== > > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > > > > > > > > ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== > South Carolina GenForum Page > http://genforum.genealogy.com/sc/ > > ============================== > Gain access to over two billion names including the new Immigration > Collection with an Ancestry.com free trial. Click to learn more. > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4930&sourceid=1237 > >