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    1. [SC-Gen] Help with Lovell family research
    2. Donald Turner
    3. Looking for information on the Lovell family in the Willamsburg/Marion Counties area. Specifically Charles Wesley Lovell in the mid-1800s.

    03/22/2018 08:46:14
    1. [SC-Gen] Sad Trip......Please Help !
    2. Harold Fisher
    3. - This mail is in HTML. Some elements may be ommited in plain text. - Hello! I'm sorry you're getting the mail from me at this Point in time,my family and I came down here to Denizli, Turkey for a short vacation unfortunately we were mugged at the park of the hotel we stayed,all cash credit cards and cell were stolen off but luckily for us we still have our passports with us. I have been to the embassy and the Police here but they're not helping issues at all and our flight leaves pretty soon from now but we're having problems settling the hotel bills and the hotel manager won't let us leave until we settle the bills.Please be so kind to reply back so I can tell you what to do and how to get some cash to us. I'm freaked out at the moment Thanks HFisher

    09/08/2016 07:28:42
    1. RE: [SC] Tisdales
    2. Alanda O'Brien
    3. Does anyone out there have Travis's address.He's on the Kelley mailing list -----Original Message----- From: lacwjc [SMTP:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, June 26, 2001 7:42 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SC] Tisdales To the List: Does anyone know these Tisdales? I know this about William Hogan Tisdale: * He was b. in S. Carolina. abt. 1804 * Moved to Hardaman Co., TN by 1825. * Married Mary Wiley 18 Mar. 1925 in Hardaman Co., TN * Mary - daughter of Matthew Wiley and Elizabeth (Betsy) Shields * Nine children: Matilda, James, Henry, Mary, Sarah, William, Margaret, Ann, John * Migrated from Hardaman Co.TN to Freestone Co. TX in 1850-1851 * Wm. H. Tisdale d. before May 1858 in Freestone Co., TX I hope someone can tell me "anything" about his roots. Louis Carlton [email protected] ==== SC-Genealogy Mailing List ==== South Carolina Resources Available at RootsWeb! http://resources.rootsweb.com/USA/SC.html

    06/26/2016 03:47:30
    1. [SC-Gen] confusion on two James P. Kinards
    2. Glenna Kinard
    3. I hope someone can help me straighten out my confusion on two James Pinckney Kinards. I have James Pinckney as the son of John Martin Kinard/Lavania Eliz. Rook. I have James' dates as 1829-1854. (I do not have a wife for this James.) I also have a James P. Kinard as president of Winthrop College: James P. Kinard 1928-1934 Dean of the college under David Bancroft Johnson, James Pinckney Kinard became Winthrop¹s second president upon the founder¹s death. Kinard had the difficult task of guiding Winthrop through the Depression. Despite the economic crisis, the Kinard administration saw the expansion of Carnegie Library (now Rutledge Building), planning for the amphitheater, membership in the Southern Association of Colleges and Secondary Schools, and completion of Kinard Building, the main academic facility on campus. After his departure from the presidency, Kinard served as president emeritus until his death in 1951. He remained active on campus during those 17 years, participating in commencements and other official functions, as well as in the academic life of the campus. ~~~~~ Who are James. P. Kinard's (pres. of Winthrop) parents? Thanks for any help you can give, Glenna Kinard Columbia, SC

    11/05/2013 01:09:20
    1. [SC-Gen] Check out 1893 hurricane devastated sea islands, Charleston 120 years ago tod
    2. _Click here: 1893 hurricane devastated sea islands, Charleston 120 years ago today – The Post and Courier_ (http://www.postandcourier.com/article/20130826/PC16/130829486)

    08/27/2013 06:17:45
    1. [SC-Gen] Georgetown Co. Plantation information
    2. _Click here: News for Pawleys Island, Litchfield and Murrells Inlet_ (http://www.coastalobserver.com/articles/2013/050913/4.html) Greetings from SC. The above link is to an article in the "Coastal Observer" (Pawleys Island, SC) titled "Wachesaw Plantation: Resident digs into local history." In addition to Wachesaw Plantation, other names mentioned are Richmond Hill, Capt. John MURRELL, Rev. Allard BELIN, Cedar Hill, DIXON (a builder from Marion), Dr. John MC GILL, Clarke A. WILLCOX, The Hermitage, Sister PETERKIN, Allard FLAGG, & Willaim A. KIMBEL. It is an interesting article for those with an interest in Georgetown Co., SC URQ

    05/13/2013 05:43:17
    1. [SC-Gen] SC Royalists
    2. Greetings from a (possibly) HARRISON Family of PEE DEE SC. Sorry that I cannot help you with your WILSON inheritance. About 1750 - 55 my JOSEPH HARRISON & and his brother JAMES HARRISON, were born and lived in the PEE DEE Area of SC & NC. At some point they lived in TAZEWELL COUNTY, VA, perhaps before moving to PEE DEE. Their earliest origen may have been along the JAMES RIVER in VA. Both brothers married GIBSON Girls. JOSEPH is a DAR recorded veteran. Not sure about JAMES. About 1780 they went by flat boat to NASHVILLE, TN. JAMES remained in TN, Sumner County, TN. JOSEPH and family floated on down river to Natchez, Spanish Territory. Both brothers left large families. It is possible that these brothers were related to the HARRISON Family of Loyalists of SC. Have your WILLSONS crossed paths with my HARRISONS, both Patriots and or Loyalists of SC, NC & and VA? Gratefully Harold C. Fisher Yazoo City, MS, USA

    03/03/2013 06:48:11
    1. Re: [SC-Gen] John WILSON SC Loyalist 1755-1825
    2. Greetings from South Carolina, USA. I find a reference to a John WILSON who might be the correct one in "Early Pee Dee Settlers" by John M. Gregg, Heritage Books, 1993. Here is all of the information contained in the book on him: p. 566 " Wilson, John Date in Pee Dee: 1780 Last Date 1782 Location: Georgetown Source(s): Lambert, Rogers. Notes: a Tory, fled to Florida, then England." The Lambert reference is to "South Carolina Loyalists in the American Revolution," by R. S. Lambert, University of South Carolina Press, Columbia, SC, 1987. The Rogers reference is to "The History of Georgetown County, SC," by G. C. Rogers, Jr., University of South Carolina Press, Columbia, SC, 1970. "Early Pee Dee Settlers" is not a primary source. It is a compilation of names (along with dates, locations and/or other vicarious information) found in other sources. It is very helpful for pointing people in the right direction but there is no narrative or detailed biographical information. Each person is listed with minimal information as the above listing for John Wilson. Wishing you good luck in your search- URQ In a message dated 2/13/2013 4:53:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: through what I do know about him below. I am anxious to find out more about his early life in SC and who he was and came from. I know WILSON is a popular name and there are a number of possibilities for families he could be connected to. Unfortunately as I live in sunny England I have no access to records that might enlighten the matter – and to be fair I wouldn’t even know where to start. I do know that a lot of Colonial records were lost in the Civil War and am therefore aware that I might never know the answer as to his origins. Birth - Some later secondary sources claim he was born in 1755 and that he was from Georgetown, SC

    03/03/2013 06:25:21
    1. Re: [SC-Gen] Gloria Donaldson Wells
    2. Gloria Donaldson Wells
    3. Thank you for your kind words. Jeff Wells. -----Original Message----- From: Hope Creasman Sent: Tuesday, February 19, 2013 12:08 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [SC-Gen] Gloria Donaldson Wells I join the others in offering my condolences. Gloria and I corresponded many times over the years. She was always willing to share her information. My thoughts and prayers are with you. List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/23/2013 05:31:35
    1. [SC-Gen] Gloria Donaldson Wells
    2. Hope Creasman
    3. I join the others in offering my condolences. Gloria and I corresponded many times over the years. She was always willing to share her information. My thoughts and prayers are with you.

    02/18/2013 06:08:12
    1. Re: [SC-Gen] John WILSON SC Loyalist 1755-1825
    2. Gloria Wells
    3. just to let you know, Gloria passed away on Feb 11th -----Original Message----- From: Harriet Imrey Sent: Thursday, February 14, 2013 11:07 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] John WILSON SC Loyalist 1755-1825 The early records for Georgetown County (1786 - ~1860) were not preserved, but the colonial/provincial records of South Carolina are generally intact. The colonial land records and deeds are indexed by the SC Department of Archives and History at www.archivesindex.sc.gov. Unfortunately, these documents provide no means for determining which of the numerous John Wilsons is involved in a given transaction. The place names for his residence might be recorded as Craven County--an old/proprietary county which did not function as a unit of government, but included most of the northern half of the province. A reference to Georgetown might refer either to the town or to the judicial district created in 1769. The parish of residence of "your John Wilson" was Prince George, which included more than one Wilson family. The first reference to this specific John Wilson, besides his marriage, is the 1778 listing among the Grand Jurors of the Parish of Prince George. The jury lists are online at http://genealogytrails.com/scar/1778-79_jurylist.htm. Scroll down the page to Georgetown District and click on Grand Jurors, then use the search function to locate John Wilson. His brother-in-law Thomas [Morritt] Hasell is on the same list. All Grand Jurors were also included on the Petit Juror list compiled from tax lists of all property owners. Grand Jurors were the subset who paid (or owed) at least £5 in annual taxes. Land taxes were low (3 shillings per 100 acres), so a £5 tax bill implied substantial amounts for improvements such as homes, stables or businesses, plus livestock and slaves. The currency used was "SC money" (also called "proclamation money"); the conversion rate was £7 (SC) = one pound sterling. Two different John Wilsons appeared on the 1782 Proclamation List (banishment of Loyalists and confiscation of their property). This list is online at http://sc_tories.tripod.com/cooper_and_mccord_lists.htm. The first one was a Lt. John Wilson "of the British army". This could be one of several same-named men with commissions in Loyalist units active in SC. The second entry, under the heading "Obnoxious Persons", specifies "John Wilson of Georgetown". Yet another John Wilson was a Lieutenant in the Queen's Rangers. He was from York Co PA, and was coincidentally stationed at Georgetown SC in 1780-81. However, he was not a resident and property owner of SC, so could not have been included in the Proclamation List. Murtie June Clark's Loyalists of the American Revolution, Volume II, p. 488, includes a brief summary of your John: Wilson, John. Of Georgetown, South Carolina. Banished and estate confiscated. Went to England. His wife, who "descended from one of the most respectable and affluent families" of that State, and who "without hesitation, bade adieu to her native country and numerous relatives, to share his fate", died at London in 1814. Robert S. Lambert, South Carolina Loyalists in the American Revolution (Columbia SC: Univ. of South Carolina Press, 1987) includes slightly more detail on p. 277: ...Among many other examples were the Georgetown schoolmaster John Wilson, who had come to England when Charlestown was evacuated [Dec 1782], was then turned away when he tried to rejoin his family in South Carolina under the terms of the treaty of peace, and then wandered from Philadelphia to New York to Jamaica before reaching England once again in 1786. Lambert used a single footnote for a large paragraph in which Wilson was the second of four Loyalists covered. The references listed for that footnote are the Loyalist Transcripts (at the British Public Records Office) Volume LVI, 213-20, 314-22; LVII, 311-17. The Lambert book is online in pdf format from Clemson University. The full text of Wilson's deposition in his claim in the Loyalist Transcripts is likely to provide the most information about Wilson's background, perhaps including his place of birth. The will of Elizabeth Hasell, older sister of Margaret Hasell Wilson, was signed in Charleston on 7 Oct 1794, proven 31 Oct 1794 (Charleston Will Book C, 1793-1800, p. 162). Her legatees were her brother Thomas Hasell Sr. [Thomas Morritt Hasell, son of Thomas and Alice Morritt Hasell] and her sister Margaret, wife of John Wilson. Her nephews were named as Thomas, Morritt, James and Christopher Hasell, under 22 years. Her nieces were named as Eliza Hasell [Wilson] and Anna Sophia Wilson, under 16 years. Elizabeth Hasell did not refer to her nephew John Hasell Wilson, and may have been unaware of his birth in England. She covered all contingencies by leaving the annual interest from a bond for the use of her nieces until marriage, after which the principal was to be divided "between all my sister's children". The colonial deed and will abstracts are informative about some families (e.g., the Hasells), but offer no clues about the specific John Wilson who lived in Prince George's Parish, Georgetown District. His claim for reimbursement in the Loyalist Transcripts (as cited by Lambert) may be the only source for information about his background. Harriet Imrey On 2/13/2013 3:51 PM, Charlotte Tebbutt wrote: > Hi All, > > I am looking for some help in tracing one of my ancestors who hails from > South Carolina. > > His name is John WILSON (bc.1755-dc.1825). > > I will go through what I do know about him below. I am anxious to find out > more about his early life in SC and who he was and came from. I know > WILSON is a popular name and there are a number of possibilities for > families he could be connected to. Unfortunately as I live in sunny > England > I have no access to records that might enlighten the matter – and to be > fair I wouldn’t even know where to start. I do know that a lot of Colonial > records were lost in the Civil War and am therefore aware that I might > never know the answer as to his origins. > > Birth - Some later secondary sources claim he was born in 1755 and that he > was from Georgetown, SC. I have found no record of his birth or any later > documentary evidence to support an age. I know he was married in 1777 so a > birth of around 1750 seems fair. > > Marriage – He married Margaret HASELL in Georgetown, SC on 12th June 1777. > > Wife – His wife came from a prominent SC family with a long history going > back to early Colonial times. She counted amongst her relatives > Christopher GADSDEN (uncle) and William GIBBES (cousin). For me she is a > gateway ancestor and I can trace her lineage back through aristocratic > families in England. > > Children – They had four children that I can locate – although only two > (John and Anna) reached maturity and only John had descendants. > > Anna Sophia WILSON (b.1782-d.1852) > > Gadsden Christopher WILSON (b?-d.1786) > > John Hasell WILSON (b.1789-d.1835) > > Eliza Hasell WILSON (b?-d?) > > Loyalist – What I know from later sources is that he calls himself “An > American Loyalist from S. Carolina”. His stance is somewhat surprising > seeing that the majority of his wife’s family are Patriot’s – and > outspoken ones at that. He ends up back in London (more of which I will > write about below). I can find no records of him fighting in the War but > there are a few possibilities of John Wilson’s who are dispossessed or > just mentioned as a loyalist from SC. > > London – All I can tell for certain is that he was in London by 1789. Anna > was born in SC in 1782 (the last time I can fix all the family together in > the USA) and John Hasell was born in London in 1789. Their other son > (Gadsden Christopher) was buried in London in 1786 but that doesn’t > suppose that the father was with the family at this stage, although it was > probable. Both > the evacuations from Charleston and Savannah are possibilities, I > understand, with these dates. > > European Museum – As a side-note (although somewhat interesting to show > his standing and education) he became the proprietor of the European > Museum in London from 1789 which was successful for over twenty years. He > was described as a Barnum-type figure and certainly had friends in high > places (who helped setup the enterprise) and appeared to have a high > understanding of Art and History (good education?). > > Later life – He married a Mary DOVE in 1815 (a year after his first wife’s > death). And there followed a decline in his business ventures leading to a > failed enterprise in turning his home into a theatre. His son had been > made bankrupt in 1819 and then lived with his father and the property they > lived in was sold in 1823 to Christie’s auction house. Secondary sources > say he > dies in 1825 but I have been unable to find a record of his death in this > period. > > So what I am hoping for is someone to help me (or point me in the right > direction) to help find out where he came from, who his parents were and > if we can work out which loyalist John WILSON from SC he was. I’d also > love to know when he left SC for England. > > Yours hopefully,Charlotte List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/18/2013 05:41:27
    1. [SC-Gen] (no subject)
    2. donna leckenby
    3. SHE AND i NEVER MEET BUT SHE DID HELP WHEN i WAS DOING MY FAMILY HISTORY    RIP  MY GRIEND

    02/14/2013 06:06:56
    1. Re: [SC-Gen] Condolences
    2. Gloria Donaldson Wells
    3. Thanks. Your kind message is very helpful. Jeff (husband). -----Original Message----- From: Sonia Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] Condolences Thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family. Gloria and hers genealogical contributions to our online communities will be missed. May your memories comfort you and bring you smiles. Sonia On 02/12/13, Gloria Donaldson Wells<[email protected]> wrote: Gloria suffered an aneurism Sunday morning. After all tests were performed, we let her go around noon on Monday the 11th. . She never knew what happened. We are operating under the âÂÂwe should all be so luckyâ scenario. She wouldnâÂÂt have wanted things any other way. She did not want a funeral. Jeff will announce a memorial service as soon as he has been able to arrange one. Probably not before next week. Please forward to everyone who would like to know. Obit has not been submitted, yet By Amy Wells- Campbell (daughter) List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/14/2013 05:25:17
    1. Re: [SC-Gen] Condolences
    2. Gloria Donaldson Wells
    3. Thank you. Jeff Wells -----Original Message----- From: Sonia Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] Condolences Thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family. Gloria and hers genealogical contributions to our online communities will be missed. May your memories comfort you and bring you smiles. Sonia On 02/12/13, Gloria Donaldson Wells<[email protected]> wrote: Gloria suffered an aneurism Sunday morning. After all tests were performed, we let her go around noon on Monday the 11th. . She never knew what happened. We are operating under the âÂÂwe should all be so luckyâ scenario. She wouldnâÂÂt have wanted things any other way. She did not want a funeral. Jeff will announce a memorial service as soon as he has been able to arrange one. Probably not before next week. Please forward to everyone who would like to know. Obit has not been submitted, yet By Amy Wells- Campbell (daughter) List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/14/2013 05:12:09
    1. Re: [SC-Gen] John WILSON SC Loyalist 1755-1825
    2. Harriet Imrey
    3. The early records for Georgetown County (1786 - ~1860) were not preserved, but the colonial/provincial records of South Carolina are generally intact. The colonial land records and deeds are indexed by the SC Department of Archives and History at www.archivesindex.sc.gov. Unfortunately, these documents provide no means for determining which of the numerous John Wilsons is involved in a given transaction. The place names for his residence might be recorded as Craven County--an old/proprietary county which did not function as a unit of government, but included most of the northern half of the province. A reference to Georgetown might refer either to the town or to the judicial district created in 1769. The parish of residence of "your John Wilson" was Prince George, which included more than one Wilson family. The first reference to this specific John Wilson, besides his marriage, is the 1778 listing among the Grand Jurors of the Parish of Prince George. The jury lists are online at http://genealogytrails.com/scar/1778-79_jurylist.htm. Scroll down the page to Georgetown District and click on Grand Jurors, then use the search function to locate John Wilson. His brother-in-law Thomas [Morritt] Hasell is on the same list. All Grand Jurors were also included on the Petit Juror list compiled from tax lists of all property owners. Grand Jurors were the subset who paid (or owed) at least £5 in annual taxes. Land taxes were low (3 shillings per 100 acres), so a £5 tax bill implied substantial amounts for improvements such as homes, stables or businesses, plus livestock and slaves. The currency used was "SC money" (also called "proclamation money"); the conversion rate was £7 (SC) = one pound sterling. Two different John Wilsons appeared on the 1782 Proclamation List (banishment of Loyalists and confiscation of their property). This list is online at http://sc_tories.tripod.com/cooper_and_mccord_lists.htm. The first one was a Lt. John Wilson "of the British army". This could be one of several same-named men with commissions in Loyalist units active in SC. The second entry, under the heading "Obnoxious Persons", specifies "John Wilson of Georgetown". Yet another John Wilson was a Lieutenant in the Queen's Rangers. He was from York Co PA, and was coincidentally stationed at Georgetown SC in 1780-81. However, he was not a resident and property owner of SC, so could not have been included in the Proclamation List. Murtie June Clark's Loyalists of the American Revolution, Volume II, p. 488, includes a brief summary of your John: Wilson, John. Of Georgetown, South Carolina. Banished and estate confiscated. Went to England. His wife, who "descended from one of the most respectable and affluent families" of that State, and who "without hesitation, bade adieu to her native country and numerous relatives, to share his fate", died at London in 1814. Robert S. Lambert, South Carolina Loyalists in the American Revolution (Columbia SC: Univ. of South Carolina Press, 1987) includes slightly more detail on p. 277: ...Among many other examples were the Georgetown schoolmaster John Wilson, who had come to England when Charlestown was evacuated [Dec 1782], was then turned away when he tried to rejoin his family in South Carolina under the terms of the treaty of peace, and then wandered from Philadelphia to New York to Jamaica before reaching England once again in 1786. Lambert used a single footnote for a large paragraph in which Wilson was the second of four Loyalists covered. The references listed for that footnote are the Loyalist Transcripts (at the British Public Records Office) Volume LVI, 213-20, 314-22; LVII, 311-17. The Lambert book is online in pdf format from Clemson University. The full text of Wilson's deposition in his claim in the Loyalist Transcripts is likely to provide the most information about Wilson's background, perhaps including his place of birth. The will of Elizabeth Hasell, older sister of Margaret Hasell Wilson, was signed in Charleston on 7 Oct 1794, proven 31 Oct 1794 (Charleston Will Book C, 1793-1800, p. 162). Her legatees were her brother Thomas Hasell Sr. [Thomas Morritt Hasell, son of Thomas and Alice Morritt Hasell] and her sister Margaret, wife of John Wilson. Her nephews were named as Thomas, Morritt, James and Christopher Hasell, under 22 years. Her nieces were named as Eliza Hasell [Wilson] and Anna Sophia Wilson, under 16 years. Elizabeth Hasell did not refer to her nephew John Hasell Wilson, and may have been unaware of his birth in England. She covered all contingencies by leaving the annual interest from a bond for the use of her nieces until marriage, after which the principal was to be divided "between all my sister's children". The colonial deed and will abstracts are informative about some families (e.g., the Hasells), but offer no clues about the specific John Wilson who lived in Prince George's Parish, Georgetown District. His claim for reimbursement in the Loyalist Transcripts (as cited by Lambert) may be the only source for information about his background. Harriet Imrey On 2/13/2013 3:51 PM, Charlotte Tebbutt wrote: > Hi All, > > I am looking for some help in tracing one of my ancestors who hails from South Carolina. > > His name is John WILSON (bc.1755-dc.1825). > > I will go through what I do know about him below. I am anxious to find out more about his early life in SC and who he was and came from. I know WILSON is a popular name and there are a number of possibilities for families he could be connected to. Unfortunately as I live in sunny England > I have no access to records that might enlighten the matter – and to be fair I wouldn’t even know where to start. I do know that a lot of Colonial records were lost in the Civil War and am therefore aware that I might never know the answer as to his origins. > > Birth - Some later secondary sources claim he was born in 1755 and that he was from Georgetown, SC. I have found no record of his birth or any later documentary evidence to support an age. I know he was married in 1777 so a birth of around 1750 seems fair. > > Marriage – He married Margaret HASELL in Georgetown, SC on 12th June 1777. > > Wife – His wife came from a prominent SC family with a long history going back to early Colonial times. She counted amongst her relatives Christopher GADSDEN (uncle) and William GIBBES (cousin). For me she is a gateway ancestor and I can trace her lineage back through aristocratic families in England. > > Children – They had four children that I can locate – although only two (John and Anna) reached maturity and only John had descendants. > > Anna Sophia WILSON (b.1782-d.1852) > > Gadsden Christopher WILSON (b?-d.1786) > > John Hasell WILSON (b.1789-d.1835) > > Eliza Hasell WILSON (b?-d?) > > Loyalist – What I know from later sources is that he calls himself “An American Loyalist from S. Carolina”. His stance is somewhat surprising seeing that the majority of his wife’s family are Patriot’s – and outspoken ones at that. He ends up back in London (more of which I will write about below). I can find no records of him fighting in the War but there are a few possibilities of John Wilson’s who are dispossessed or just mentioned as a loyalist from SC. > > London – All I can tell for certain is that he was in London by 1789. Anna was born in SC in 1782 (the last time I can fix all the family together in the USA) and John Hasell was born in London in 1789. Their other son (Gadsden Christopher) was buried in London in 1786 but that doesn’t suppose that the father was with the family at this stage, although it was probable. Both > the evacuations from Charleston and Savannah are possibilities, I understand, with these dates. > > European Museum – As a side-note (although somewhat interesting to show his standing and education) he became the proprietor of the European Museum in London from 1789 which was successful for over twenty years. He was described as a Barnum-type figure and certainly had friends in high places (who helped setup the enterprise) and appeared to have a high understanding of Art and History (good education?). > > Later life – He married a Mary DOVE in 1815 (a year after his first wife’s death). And there followed a decline in his business ventures leading to a failed enterprise in turning his home into a theatre. His son had been made bankrupt in 1819 and then lived with his father and the property they lived in was sold in 1823 to Christie’s auction house. Secondary sources say he > dies in 1825 but I have been unable to find a record of his death in this period. > > So what I am hoping for is someone to help me (or point me in the right direction) to help find out where he came from, who his parents were and if we can work out which loyalist John WILSON from SC he was. I’d also love to know when he left SC for England. > > Yours hopefully,Charlotte

    02/14/2013 04:07:14
    1. Re: [SC-Gen] help with research on a Death
    2. Gloria Wells
    3. Thank you. Gloria loved her genealogy research, especially, sharing with others. Jeff Wells -----Original Message----- From: Susan Marshall Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 3:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] help with research on a Death Sorry for your loss. Susan Marshall -----Original Message----- From: Gloria Donaldson Wells <[email protected]> To: sc-genealogy <[email protected]> Sent: Tue, Feb 12, 2013 3:44 pm Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] help with research on a Death Gloria suffered an aneurism Sunday morning. After all tests were performed, we let her go around noon on Monday the 11th. . She never knew what happened. We are operating under the “we should all be so lucky” scenario. She wouldn’t have wanted things any other way. She did not want a funeral. Jeff will announce a memorial service as soon as he has been able to arrange one. Probably not before next week. Please forward to everyone who would like to know. Obit has not been submitted, yet By Amy Wells- Campbell (daughter) -----Original Message----- From: Donna Walker Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2013 2:36 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] help with research on a Death Yes, I saw the one you have listed. I was just wondering if you had eliminated this one. He died in Jan 1973. If the link doesn't work, he's buried in San Mateo County. donna http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=harrison&GSfn=robert&GSbyrel=all&GSdyrel=all&GSst=6&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GRid=87832426&df=all & On Wed, Feb 6, 2013 at 1:02 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Thank you for your response, I do have him listed on Find a Grave. But > also have listed that I am still continuing to search for his burial > place.And yes it is possible ,I have not considered that. > > > > pat > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > From: "Donna Walker" <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2013 8:44:03 PM > Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] help with research on a Death > > Is his death date from SSDI and are you using that date to request a death > certificate? It's possible there was a transcription error on the death > year. There is a Robert Harrison died Jan 1973 and buried in CA listed at > findagrave. > > Donna > > > > > On Tue, Feb 5, 2013 at 4:37 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > Robert Harrison died in Jan. 1972, I do not know the day. I sent for his > > SSapplication ,to make sure I had the right person and I do. On the > > death > > index it says his last place of residence was El centro, Imperial , CA. > > I > > have sent twice to CA for a death cert. but they tell me there is no > record > > of him dying in CA. I have tried to get info from SS as to where he > > might > > have dyed with no help at all. I have even tried getting info from his > > wifes SS knowing that I'm sure she received benefits from his SS. > > > > I would just really like to find out where he died so I can send for a > DC. > > > > Anyone have any suggestions? Help! > > > > > > > > thankyou > > > > pat > > List maintainer is [email protected] > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > List maintainer is [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > List maintainer is [email protected] > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-GEN[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/14/2013 02:59:21
    1. Re: [SC-Gen] Condolences
    2. Gloria Wells
    3. Sonia: Thanks for your kind words. I am missing Gloria terribly. She loved her genealogy work, and her eyes lit up when she found new clues and contacts. Jeff Wells -----Original Message----- From: Sonia Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] Condolences Thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family. Gloria and hers genealogical contributions to our online communities will be missed. May your memories comfort you and bring you smiles. Sonia On 02/12/13, Gloria Donaldson Wells<[email protected]> wrote: Gloria suffered an aneurism Sunday morning. After all tests were performed, we let her go around noon on Monday the 11th. . She never knew what happened. We are operating under the âÂÂwe should all be so luckyâ scenario. She wouldnâÂÂt have wanted things any other way. She did not want a funeral. Jeff will announce a memorial service as soon as he has been able to arrange one. Probably not before next week. Please forward to everyone who would like to know. Obit has not been submitted, yet By Amy Wells- Campbell (daughter) List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/14/2013 02:56:03
    1. Re: [SC-Gen] Gloria Donaldson Wells Death
    2. Gloria Wells
    3. Thanks for your kind words. Jeff Wells. -----Original Message----- From: Donna Walker Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 10:16 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] Gloria Donaldson Wells Death Amy, I am so sorry for your sudden loss. I have followed Gloria's posts for years and although we never connected on a line, I am sure we are related through our South Carolina roots. I know you will find peace in knowing she didn't suffer. Thank you for letting us know, she will really be missed in the genealogy community. Donna Walker On Tue, Feb 12, 2013 at 3:40 PM, Gloria Donaldson Wells < [email protected]> wrote: > Gloria suffered an aneurism Sunday morning. After all tests were > performed, > we let her go around noon on Monday the 11th. . She never knew what > happened. > We are operating under the “we should all be so lucky” scenario. She > wouldn’t > have wanted things any other way. > > She did not want a funeral. Jeff will announce a memorial service as soon > as > he has been able to arrange one. Probably not before next week. > Please forward to everyone who would like to know. > > Obit has not been submitted, yet > By Amy Wells- Campbell (daughter) > > > > > > > List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/14/2013 02:30:44
    1. Re: [SC-Gen] Condolences - Far and wide, we are mourning your loss. A light has gone out! I will so missthe e-contact. She was quite a f orce in our lives. JoyceGarner in Richmond, VA
    2. Gloria Wells
    3. Thank you for your kind remarks. They help. Jeff -----Original Message----- From: Joyce Garner Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:25 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] Condolences - Far and wide,we are mourning your loss. A light has gone out! I will so missthe e-contact. She was quite a f orce in our lives. JoyceGarner in Richmond, VA ---------- Original Message ---------- From: "Gloria Donaldson Wells" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] Condolences Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:13:29 -0600 Jeff wants to call you &ndash; we are having trouble gathering numbers. Please call here if you can 615 353 4231 Gloria suffered an aneurism Sunday morning. After all tests were performed, we let her go around noon on Monday the 11th. . She never knew what happened. We are operating under the &ldquo;we should all be so lucky&rdquo; scenario. She wouldn&rsquo;t have wanted things any other way. She did not want a funeral. Jeff will announce a memorial service as soon as he has been able to arrange one. Probably not before next week. Please forward to everyone who would like to know. By Amy Wells- Campbell (daughter) -----Original Message----- From: Sonia Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 6:58 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-Gen] Condolences Thoughts and prayers will be with you and your family. Gloria and hers genealogical contributions to our online communities will be missed. May your memories comfort you and bring you smiles. Sonia On 02/12/13, Gloria Donaldson Wells<[email protected]> wrote: Gloria suffered an aneurism Sunday morning. After all tests were performed, we let her go around noon on Monday the 11th. . She never knew what happened. We are operating under the âÂÂwe should all be so luckyâ scenario. She wouldnâÂÂt have wanted things any other way. She did not want a funeral. Jeff will announce a memorial service as soon as he has been able to arrange one. Probably not before next week. Please forward to everyone who would like to know. Obit has not been submitted, yet By Amy Wells- Campbell (daughter) List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message List maintainer is [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    02/14/2013 02:25:14
    1. [SC-Gen] John WILSON SC Loyalist 1755-1825
    2. Charlotte Tebbutt
    3. Hi All, I am looking for some help in tracing one of my ancestors who hails from South Carolina. His name is John WILSON (bc.1755-dc.1825). I will go through what I do know about him below. I am anxious to find out more about his early life in SC and who he was and came from. I know WILSON is a popular name and there are a number of possibilities for families he could be connected to. Unfortunately as I live in sunny England I have no access to records that might enlighten the matter – and to be fair I wouldn’t even know where to start. I do know that a lot of Colonial records were lost in the Civil War and am therefore aware that I might never know the answer as to his origins. Birth - Some later secondary sources claim he was born in 1755 and that he was from Georgetown, SC. I have found no record of his birth or any later documentary evidence to support an age. I know he was married in 1777 so a birth of around 1750 seems fair. Marriage – He married Margaret HASELL in Georgetown, SC on 12th June 1777. Wife – His wife came from a prominent SC family with a long history going back to early Colonial times. She counted amongst her relatives Christopher GADSDEN (uncle) and William GIBBES (cousin). For me she is a gateway ancestor and I can trace her lineage back through aristocratic families in England. Children – They had four children that I can locate – although only two (John and Anna) reached maturity and only John had descendants. Anna Sophia WILSON (b.1782-d.1852) Gadsden Christopher WILSON (b?-d.1786) John Hasell WILSON (b.1789-d.1835) Eliza Hasell WILSON (b?-d?) Loyalist – What I know from later sources is that he calls himself “An American Loyalist from S. Carolina”. His stance is somewhat surprising seeing that the majority of his wife’s family are Patriot’s – and outspoken ones at that. He ends up back in London (more of which I will write about below). I can find no records of him fighting in the War but there are a few possibilities of John Wilson’s who are dispossessed or just mentioned as a loyalist from SC. London – All I can tell for certain is that he was in London by 1789. Anna was born in SC in 1782 (the last time I can fix all the family together in the USA) and John Hasell was born in London in 1789. Their other son (Gadsden Christopher) was buried in London in 1786 but that doesn’t suppose that the father was with the family at this stage, although it was probable. Both the evacuations from Charleston and Savannah are possibilities, I understand, with these dates. European Museum – As a side-note (although somewhat interesting to show his standing and education) he became the proprietor of the European Museum in London from 1789 which was successful for over twenty years. He was described as a Barnum-type figure and certainly had friends in high places (who helped setup the enterprise) and appeared to have a high understanding of Art and History (good education?). Later life – He married a Mary DOVE in 1815 (a year after his first wife’s death). And there followed a decline in his business ventures leading to a failed enterprise in turning his home into a theatre. His son had been made bankrupt in 1819 and then lived with his father and the property they lived in was sold in 1823 to Christie’s auction house. Secondary sources say he dies in 1825 but I have been unable to find a record of his death in this period. So what I am hoping for is someone to help me (or point me in the right direction) to help find out where he came from, who his parents were and if we can work out which loyalist John WILSON from SC he was. I’d also love to know when he left SC for England. Yours hopefully,Charlotte

    02/13/2013 02:51:19