Campbells and friends- I have very much appreciated this discussion of Sarah and Ralph Campbell, who if I am correct as per Sarah E. Temple's book, was a son of Samuel Campbell. I am descended from Mary Campbell Clark, Samuel's sister and the wife of John Clark, who is buried at Padgett's Creek, along with his parents, Henry and Elizabeth (Underhill) Clark. Mary and John Clark's youngest daughter, Rebecca who was born at Padgett's Creek, married Alexander Stewart in Warren Co Ohio in 1807, and the Stewart family of Paola Kansas descends from that marriage. I was born in Paola myself, and my father's mother was Effie Mae Stewart Fleming. Alexander and Rebecca Stewart are buried in the Woodland Cemetery in Xenia Ohio. John Campbell, who was Samuel's brother, married John Clark's sister, Hester Clark, and they are buried in the cemetery in Mt Holly Ohio. I, and others, have much more information on the Clark/Campbells and the Stewarts that we would be happy to share. - Ron Fleming Ann Arbor MI On Jan 11, 2012, at 5:43 PM, Harriet Imrey wrote: Sarah Hasket Campbell was disowned by Bush River MM because of her marriage to Ralph Campbell, who had been disowned the previous year. By 1809, Sarah--but not Ralph--was once again a member of Bush River. The meeting was still technically a Monthly Meeting (because not laid down until ~1822), but it functioned more as a Preparative Meeting. The Yearly Meeting had advised the Bush River trustees to sell the meetinghouse and other property in 1806. In 1809, the minority of members who remained in SC were transferred to New Garden MM (Guilford Co NC) for purposes of transacting business. They continued attending local worship meetings as well as their preparative meeting onsite at Bush River, but representatives had to travel to NC in order to handle the business matters for which a Monthly Meeting was required. Sarah Campbell was apparently re-instated in the meeting following a formal condemnation of her misconduct. The extant Bush River women's minutes cover only the years 1791-1801. They include no "con her mou" entry for Sarah Campbell, so she must have done that between 1801 and 1809. I was curious about the nature of those "condemnation" proceedings. E.g., did they have to grovel and produce tearful apologies for wrongdoing? That doesn't seem very Quaker-like, since the community was well aware that human beings are not prone to 100% perfection of behavior, even when they aspire to it. I looked around until I found a reference for the exact wording of a letter seeking re-admission. Search on <"Abraham Woodward" peace Quakers> to locate his biography, which contains the wording of two letters re condemnation of behavior, one unsuccessful and the second one successful. It was necessary to state exactly what one had done in violation of community standards, i.e., acknowledge one's specific faults, and ask to be received in fellowship again. A generic "I'm sorry that I messed up" was insufficient. Nobody expected a promise that "I'll never do anything wrong again in my whole life," just a statement that you were aware of the nature of your previous failure to live up to group norms. The former member did not apologize for the marriage itself, or for continuing to live with the non-Quaker spouse, just for the fact of having contracted a marriage by a process "contrary to discipline". Two currently-active Quakers might also marry contrary to discipline, if they skipped the announcements at their MM's, or had a J.P. or a non-Quaker minister conduct the ceremony. Then each would acknowledge their specific faults to their meeting, and hope for the best. Harriet Imrey On 1/11/2012 5:58 AM, Judith F. Russell wrote: forwarded with permission... Do you mind if I ask a couple of Quaker questions? In the Bush River MM 1794, 4, 26 under Campbell "Sarah (form Hasket) dis mou". Her marriage was to Ralph Campbell who was not a Quaker. In the New Garden MM 1809, 6, 24 "Sarah, of Bush River, S.C., rec in mbrp on minute from New Garden QM. Questions: (1) Would Sarah have been re-instated to membership thou still "mou"? She and Ralph were married until his death in 1841. (2) Sarah and Ralph were still in Newberry in the 1810 census. Why was she received in the New Garden MM in 1809? Had Bush River MM been dissolved by then? They ended up in Hamilton County, IN in 1836. Is there a place on the internet to find minutes from Richland-Carmel MM? Thanks for your help Gene Campbell