Hi Wendy, Below are the only DUNCAN names I have in my gedcom (3). They all connect to my VA,NC & SC families. IDK which, if any, of them might be in yours : 1. Margaret Duncan mar. Andrew Culbertson,IV (1747-April,1775,PA) 2. Minnie B. Duncan (b.TN) mar. Walter Grey Sullivan, (d.1948, Paragould, Green Co,AR) 3. Sarah Duncan mar. Wm. Lyon,III (June 1646,Roxbury,MA-1714,VA) Hope this helps, Martha -----Original Message----- From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of sc-bushriverquakers-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 1:33 PM To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Subject: SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12 "PLEASE NOTE: When replying to a digest message, please quote *only the specific portion* of message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to *change the subject* of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying." Today's Topics: 1. Samuel and Sarah Duncan (Wendy Neuman McGuire) 2. Re: TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX (Richard Reed) 3. Duncan/Brown/Hart/Pemberton, and more (Doris F) 4. TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX (marsha moses) 5. Re: TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX (THOMAS BROOKS) 6. Quaker dis mou etc (marsha moses) 7. Re: TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX (Bren) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:38:26 -0500 From: Wendy Neuman McGuire <wjneuman@gmail.com> Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Samuel and Sarah Duncan To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CAC60CtStUGn1u1dDKemu-f5ncKGwHC1QacgfTj5XLtSMt85WOg@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 First, thank you Harriet for the detailed and clear explanation of a variety of terms which appear in land plat and memorial records. One reason for the question was that on 10.10.1770 there was a Memorial entered by Samuel Duncan?s wife, Sarah. There also was an earlier land grant entry on 9.19.1770 for the same 350 acres on Bush Creek. Since Samuel died c.1770 I wondered if the term "memorial" had anything to do with his estate. And now from your explanation I realized that "memorial" in this case has nothing to do with a deceased land owner?s property. Yet, the description of Sarah's land plat and the subsequent memorial document was similar to the earlier land plat record of her husband Samuel Duncan in 2.17.1767. Do you think it was possible that that Sarah's documents record land transferred to her after her husband's death? I have an inventory of Samuel Duncan's estate and chattels but it does not include any land. Samuel died in 1770, when Sarah Duncan applied on Nov. 5 to administer his estate on Bush River, Craven Co., as his nearest of kin (Charleston Co. SC Court of Ordinary 1764-71; Inv. Book Z-137, filed in 1771 in Charleston Co. SC.). I have not reviewed this record. Martha, this Samuel Duncan c. 1722-1770 arrived in Bush River sometime before 1763 possibly coming from Fairfax co., Virginia where he may have appeared in a land purchase in 1748. Later Samuel and Sarah Duncan appeared in the land sale in 1766. He was born near Dundee, Scotland. I have only seen Samuel's wife?s first name listed as Sarah. Their known children are: Sarah Duncan 1743-1835 m. James Hall; Amos Duncan c. 1749 m. Elizabeth Pemberton; John Duncan c. 1750; Richard Duncan c. 1751; and Samuel Duncan/Dunkin 1751-1832 m. Mary Embree. We are descended through Sarah Duncan and James Hall. Earlier I had an earlier exchange with Tim Duncan, who you may know from this list. He has more Duncan info. He is researching the Duncans of Newberry country, South Carolina focusing on the Quaker Duncans, Nelson Duncan and Samuel Duncan. I would appreciate any insights and suggestions for this family. Hope this is helpful. Wendy McGuire ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 09:06:21 -0800 (PST) From: Richard Reed <finder5051@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX To: dixiepeanut@comcast.net, sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1327165581.42205.YahooMailClassic@web83001.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Martha, ? So far I do not have any Quaker connections in South Carolina that I know about; however, I do have (not for sure) a Mathis connection. There is a William Brown of Kings Creek in Newberry who's wife Sarah is suppose to be a Mathis (some say Mathers, others say Mathews). William and Sarah (Mathis) Brown moved to Graves County, Kentucky sometime after 1830. ? I don't know if you have any information about this Sarah Mathis. I think her family probably came to South Carolina from North Carolina. I don't know?where they came from nor when they moved there; but, I do know that they were in Newberry from 1801 to sometime past 1830. ? Any infromation that you can share would be most appreciated, ? Thanks, ? Rick Reed --- On Tue, 1/17/12, Martha <dixiepeanut@comcast.net> wrote: From: Martha <dixiepeanut@comcast.net> Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX To: SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 12:19 AM Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 Subject: TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX Was wondering if anyone has any of these names that I?m researching in my Quaker family lines in the Newberry &/or Laurens, SC area ?? TEAGUE, GAUNT, MATHIS, MADDOX ? ?Most if not all of them came to SC from Rowan Co, NC and adjoining areas of NC a few years before the Revolution. Thanks, Martha ? ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 12:36:23 -0500 From: "Doris F" <df99md@verizon.net> Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Duncan/Brown/Hart/Pemberton, and more To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <003101ccd863$326c1dd0$97445970$@verizon.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII I still do not know if the line of my Robert Paul Duncan b 1815 VA is Quaker. He married in NC Quaker, Adeline Whitaker, and moved to TN, where his granddaughter married the son of Nancy BROWN HART Watkins b 1843 TN. Nancy was daughter of George B. Hart b 1816 TN and wife Ellen Aikin/Akin/Akens/whatever. The line you cited as a Pemberton, an unusual and uncommon name. Maybe this note will prove helpful to someone. Descendants of Daniel Brown, Sr. 1 Daniel BROWN, Sr. Abt. 1660 .. +Susan Ver PLANCK . 2 Daniel BROWN, Jr. Abt. 1688 d: June 1725 Kent CO, DE ..... +Elizabeth PEMBERTON 1688 .... 3 Elizabeth BROWN Abt. 1703 Kent, DE ........ +William MANLOVE 1700 Kent, DE ........ 4 Mark MANLOVE ............ +Margaret Mary HART ........... 5 Margaret MANLOVE 1728 ............... +Paris Perez CHIPMAN 1729 Mayflower Chipman family of Sandwich MA 1751 Camden, Kent DE d: Settled in Guilford CO, NC ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:17:19 -0500 From: marsha moses <mosesm@earthlink.net> Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX To: dixiepeanut@comcast.net, sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8459AA01-9B50-485B-BD45-A86494DDB306@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Martha, do you have reason to believe that your families moved from the NC area because of the Regulation period, the battle of Alamance, and the aftermath of that time period? That is a huge interest are for me right now. My Moore family moved to Wrightsboro, but some of them may have moved to Newberry/Laurens Co area. I think it highly likely that the Thomas family moved in the same time period from Orange County, NC to the Newberry/Laurens County area. I have also looked at some of the families who moved out of NC in that time period who moved into Montgomery County, Va. Are there others on this list whose ancestors fall into this pattern? marsha moses On Jan 17, 2012, at 1:19 AM, Martha wrote: > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 > > Subject: TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX > > Was wondering if anyone has any of these names that I?m researching in my > Quaker family lines in the Newberry &/or Laurens, SC area ? TEAGUE, GAUNT, > MATHIS, MADDOX ? Most if not all of them came to SC from Rowan Co, NC and > adjoining areas of NC a few years before the Revolution. > > Thanks, Martha ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 11:20:07 -0800 (PST) From: THOMAS BROOKS <thomasbrooks1@bellsouth.net> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <1327173607.25197.YahooMailClassic@web180613.mail.sp1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Interesting-Our Brooks were living beside Williams in thier census records for many years! --- On Tue, 1/17/12, Tina & Bill Swyers <bswyers@cableone.net> wrote: From: Tina & Bill Swyers <bswyers@cableone.net> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX To: dixiepeanut@comcast.net, sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 8:45 AM Martha: The Teagues were around my Williams families in Newberry and also adjacent to some land that Providence Williams, wife Sarah, Joseph Williams, wife Lydia, and Ann Poulson, sold in Cecil Co., MD in 1736 while living in Frederick Co., VA. Edward Teagues' land was called Teagues Delight adjacent to High Park. Tina -----Original Message----- From: Martha Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:19 AM To: SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 Subject: TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX Was wondering if anyone has any of these names that I?m researching in my Quaker family lines in the Newberry &/or Laurens, SC area? ? TEAGUE, GAUNT, MATHIS, MADDOX ?? Most if not all of them came to SC from Rowan Co, NC and adjoining areas of NC a few years before the Revolution. Thanks, Martha ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:20:21 -0500 From: marsha moses <mosesm@earthlink.net> Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Quaker dis mou etc To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <9923695C-1519-48E0-80DA-233076FBD7D4@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii I just ordered the microfilm of the Cane Creek MM (North Carolina) original minutes. I have been told by librarians at Guilford College Hege library that there is almost never anything in the original that Hinshaw and his cohorts did not transcribe....however, "hope spring eternal" .....I decided that I wanted to read for myself what was said when Abigail Moore was dis mou at Cane Creek and also her brother Mordecai Moore (my 6-gr-grandrather) when he was dis for mou. While I was on the LDS FHL site, I also ordered film #255078 Bush River Monthly Meeting of Friends Worth, Laura D, Hinshaw, William Wade, 1867-1947, Society of Friends. Bush River Monthly Meeting (South Carolina), Society of Friends. Cane Creek Monthly Meeting (Union County, South Carolina), Society of Friends. Piney Grove Monthly Meeting (South Carolina), Society of Friends. Wrightborough Monthly Meeting (Georgia) This title came up when I used Cane Creek as my Keyword in the Beta version of the LDS library. It reminds me of how interconnected the MM and areas in NC, SC, and Wrightsboro were in the time period. I don't expect to read anything new....but as I said before.....hope spring eternal. marsha moses > I was curious about the nature of those "condemnation" proceedings. > E.g., did they have to grovel and produce tearful apologies for > wrongdoing? That doesn't seem very Quaker-like, since the community was > well aware that human beings are not prone to 100% perfection of > behavior, even when they aspire to it. I looked around until I found a > reference for the exact wording of a letter seeking re-admission. > Search on <"Abraham Woodward" peace Quakers> to locate his biography, > which contains the wording of two letters re condemnation of behavior, > one unsuccessful and the second one successful. It was necessary to > state exactly what one had done in violation of community standards, > i.e., acknowledge one's specific faults, and ask to be received in > fellowship again. A generic "I'm sorry that I messed up" was > insufficient. Nobody expected a promise that "I'll never do anything > wrong again in my whole life," just a statement that you were aware of > the nature of your previous failure to live up to group norms. The > former member did not apologize for the marriage itself, or for > continuing to live with the non-Quaker spouse, just for the fact of > having contracted a marriage by a process "contrary to discipline". Two > currently-active Quakers might also marry contrary to discipline, if > they skipped the announcements at their MM's, or had a J.P. or a > non-Quaker minister conduct the ceremony. Then each would acknowledge > their specific faults to their meeting, and hope for the best. > > Harriet Imrey ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 14:32:28 -0500 (EST) From: Bren <bjpass51@aol.com> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CEA68A8BA56668-1E50-10B49@webmail-d032.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Does anyone have all the children and who they married of Providence Williams? Were there Teague or Taylor connections to this family? Thanks, Brenda Pass -----Original Message----- From: THOMAS BROOKS <thomasbrooks1@bellsouth.net> To: sc-bushriverquakers <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sat, Jan 21, 2012 9:29 am Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX Interesting-Our Brooks were living beside Williams in thier census records for many years! --- On Tue, 1/17/12, Tina & Bill Swyers <bswyers@cableone.net> wrote: From: Tina & Bill Swyers <bswyers@cableone.net> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX To: dixiepeanut@comcast.net, sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Date: Tuesday, January 17, 2012, 8:45 AM Martha: The Teagues were around my Williams families in Newberry and also adjacent to some land that Providence Williams, wife Sarah, Joseph Williams, wife Lydia, and Ann Poulson, sold in Cecil Co., MD in 1736 while living in Frederick Co., VA. Edward Teagues' land was called Teagues Delight adjacent to High Park. Tina -----Original Message----- From: Martha Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 12:19 AM To: SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS@rootsweb.com Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX Sent: Monday, January 16, 2012 Subject: TEAGUE-GAUNT-MATHIS-MADDOX Was wondering if anyone has any of these names that I?m researching in my Quaker family lines in the Newberry &/or Laurens, SC area ? TEAGUE, GAUNT, MATHIS, MADDOX ? Most if not all of them came to SC from Rowan Co, NC and adjoining areas of NC a few years before the Revolution. Thanks, Martha ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ End of SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 12 **************************************************