Hi Marsha...seems like there might be a glimmer of hope! Let us know what you find when you get the original minutes. I didn't even know they were available...I think I'll have to see if any are available for my Warren County Ohio folks (after the big migration from SC!) Happy New Year to all! Debi Ham ----- Original Message ----- From: sc-bushriverquakers-request@rootsweb.com To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, January 21, 2012 6:13:08 PM Subject: SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS Digest, Vol 6, Issue 15 Today's Topics: 1. Re: Quaker dis mou etc (Joyce Bowman) 2. Re: PROVIDENCE WILLIAMS' CHILDREN (Bren) 3. Henshaw (Doris F) 4. Re: note to Dena (Vince King) 5. Re: Samuel and Sarah Duncan (Harriet Imrey) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sat, 21 Jan 2012 17:19:43 -0500 From: Joyce Bowman <jeobowman@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Quaker dis mou etc To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <CALbyLbYnp7o8o+UTkRCzNyk6s0+xOiSEvor7fWm3wGgZHkB5Ew@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Marsha--What that librarian at Guilford told you ("almost never anything in the original that Hinshaw & cohorts did not transcribe") is just not true. Back in the 20's when Hinshaw made the arrangement, with the Meetings directly or with Guilford, I'm not sure, to transcribe the minutes, they agreed, but only on the condition that nothing would be transcribed that could be considered sensitive or derogatory. In my own family, I know of 3 instances where info of interest was in the original minutes, but was not transcribed. A cousin of mine, Gordon Bowles, couldn't understand why 2 of our families were not in the records (Pasquotank mm I assume). When he went back to the original records, he found both families listed, in their entirety but each of those listings were marked thru with a big "X" and had not been transcribed--with no explanation for the marking out! While looking for this, he also found something of interest that we hadn't known to look for. An ancestor of ours at Pasquotank Mtg, Ephraim Overman m. Sarah Belman in 1708. They had 7 children and then he died. In 1734 Sarah Belman Overman re-married--to Nathaniel Martin. Four years later (1738) there is a note "Nathaniel Martin disowned"--with no explanation. My cousin, Gordon, from the original minutes found what had happened. Sarah (Belman) Martin had gone to the Friends' Colony in Opecking, VA to visit her married daughter, and while she was gone, her husband, Nathaniel Martin got the young housekeeper pregnant. Sarah then asked for a permanent transfer of her membership to her daughter's home, which the mtg took a while to consider, since it was unheard of for a woman to transfer her membership without her husband. However, they finally agreed and she did move permanently to her daughter's home. Not in the Meeting records I don't think, but from some other source, I understand Gordon found evidence that Nathaniel Martin had then married the younger woman--though I don't know that Sarah ever officially got a divorce! On Sat, Jan 21, 2012 at 2:20 PM, marsha moses <mosesm@earthlink.net> wrote: > I just ordered the microfilm of the Cane Creek MM (North Carolina) original minutes. ?I have been told by librarians at Guilford College Hege library that there is almost never anything in the original that Hinshaw and his cohorts did not transcribe....however, "hope spring eternal" .....I decided that I wanted to read for myself what was said when Abigail Moore was dis mou at Cane Creek and also her brother Mordecai Moore (my 6-gr-grandrather) when he was dis for mou. > > While I was on the LDS FHL site, I also ordered > > film #255078 > > ? ?Bush River Monthly Meeting of Friends > Worth, Laura D, Hinshaw, William Wade, 1867-1947, Society of Friends. Bush River Monthly Meeting (South Carolina), Society of Friends. Cane Creek Monthly Meeting (Union County, South Carolina), Society of Friends. Piney Grove Monthly Meeting (South Carolina), Society of Friends. Wrightborough Monthly Meeting (Georgia) > > This title came up when I used Cane Creek as my Keyword in the Beta version of the LDS library. ?It reminds me of how interconnected the MM and areas in NC, SC, and Wrightsboro were in the time period. ?I don't expect to read anything new....but as I said before.....hope spring eternal. ?marsha moses > > >>