Ah! Thank you. This is all very interesting. I have, of course, found many different spellings and originally I thought that Happuch/Hoppoch/Coppock was a surname but then found it attached to other surnames also so I began to wonder "Who was this Karen Happuch." Good to know the story and the correct spelling. It might just help me track down my Newberry families of Thomas/Justis/Gilliam. One family was supposed to be Quaker but it might be that Gilliam was a second wife so there is a mystery as to where the Quaker actually came in. Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. Kathy On 9/25/08 6:28 PM, "Harriet Imrey" <[email protected]> wrote: > Keren Happuch is one of those rare names that identifies the family's > religion. Every girl with the name was born to a practicing-Quaker family > or named for a Quaker grandmother. Nobody used it except Quakers. You'll > find the name in the Book of Job, Chapter 42, Verse 14. The three > "replacement daughters" of Job, after all his first family had died, were > called Jemima, Kezia and Kerenhappuch. > > The older established-religions required formal education prior to > ordination and expected the seminary studies to include Greek, Latin and > Hebrew. The ministers who read Biblical Hebrew knew that the names were > part of a parable, and that people did not actually give their daughters > those names in Old Testament times. Jemima means "warm and affectionate", > Kezia(h) means cassia bark (an expensive medicinal spice, so > health-promoting). Both of those names were used frequently--by all > religions--in the 18th century. Keren-Happuch means cosmetic-horn, > specifically a jewel-encrusted container made of ivory or precious metal to > hold extremely luxurious eye makeup such as kohl or malachite. The Puritans > and other denominations with seminary-trained ministers drew the line at > that one: painted-up women were frowned upon, probably no better than > Jezebels. Seminary education for ministers was neither required nor > welcomed among the Friends of the day. Had they known that the word had > connotations of "worldly, extravagant and ostentatious", they would > certainly have avoided giving the name to their daughters! > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen Summers" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:55 PM > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects > > > Can you explain to me the proliferation of the name "karen Coppock?" I > have found it in many parts of NC and SC and it's almost like a surname > sometimes. I know it was connected with the Bush River Quaker meeting but I > have never been able to determine the origin or how this name was carried > through other families. > > Kathy Summers > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The GILLIAMS were from Surry Co, VA. "Hinchy" GILLIAM is really Henshaw/Hinshaw GILLIAM. Most researchers are familiar with the Hinshaw Quaker genealogy. You may know this already - just passing along a bit of information. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Summers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Keren Happuch > Ah! Thank you. This is all very interesting. I have, of course, found > many different spellings and originally I thought that > Happuch/Hoppoch/Coppock was a surname but then found it attached to other > surnames also so I began to wonder "Who was this Karen Happuch." Good to > know the story and the correct spelling. It might just help me track down > my Newberry families of Thomas/Justis/Gilliam. One family was supposed to > be Quaker but it might be that Gilliam was a second wife so there is a > mystery as to where the Quaker actually came in. > > Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. > > Kathy > > > On 9/25/08 6:28 PM, "Harriet Imrey" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Keren Happuch is one of those rare names that identifies the family's >> religion. Every girl with the name was born to a practicing-Quaker >> family >> or named for a Quaker grandmother. Nobody used it except Quakers. >> You'll >> find the name in the Book of Job, Chapter 42, Verse 14. The three >> "replacement daughters" of Job, after all his first family had died, were >> called Jemima, Kezia and Kerenhappuch. >> >> The older established-religions required formal education prior to >> ordination and expected the seminary studies to include Greek, Latin and >> Hebrew. The ministers who read Biblical Hebrew knew that the names were >> part of a parable, and that people did not actually give their daughters >> those names in Old Testament times. Jemima means "warm and >> affectionate", >> Kezia(h) means cassia bark (an expensive medicinal spice, so >> health-promoting). Both of those names were used frequently--by all >> religions--in the 18th century. Keren-Happuch means cosmetic-horn, >> specifically a jewel-encrusted container made of ivory or precious metal >> to >> hold extremely luxurious eye makeup such as kohl or malachite. The >> Puritans >> and other denominations with seminary-trained ministers drew the line at >> that one: painted-up women were frowned upon, probably no better than >> Jezebels. Seminary education for ministers was neither required nor >> welcomed among the Friends of the day. Had they known that the word had >> connotations of "worldly, extravagant and ostentatious", they would >> certainly have avoided giving the name to their daughters! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kathleen Summers" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects >> >> >> Can you explain to me the proliferation of the name "karen Coppock?" I >> have found it in many parts of NC and SC and it's almost like a surname >> sometimes. I know it was connected with the Bush River Quaker meeting >> but I >> have never been able to determine the origin or how this name was carried >> through other families. >> >> Kathy Summers >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >