I am interested in the Harbour, Harbert, Herbert family because I am a descendant of Mary Harbert, daughter of Walter Harbert (b. 1742) and his wife, Ann. Mary Harbert married Joseph Cook. The abstracted records of Bush River Monthly Meeting of Friends, as they appear in Vol. I of William Wade Hinshaw's _Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy_, indicate that John Harbert was born on 3 mo. 8, 1769. On 2 mo. 1789 John Harbert was reported to have married out of unity. This means that he had not married according to Friends discipline. His bride may or may not have been been a member of Friends at the time of his marriage. On 4 mo. 6, 1796 John Harbert was disowned by Bush River Monthly Meeting. The abstracted records do not state why he was disowned. Perhaps the manuscript records at Guilford College in Greensboro, NC give more details. In those times, members were often disowned for marriage contrary to discipline, but this disownment would have been seven years after the marriage was reported. I do not believe that "disownment" among Friends at that time had quite the stigma that "shunning" has today among certain Anabaptist sects. Disowned persons could no longer participate in Friends business meetings. Their spouses and children were often kept on the membership rolls. They often joined in Quaker migrations to other territories. They could generally be buried in Quaker cemeteries. Some of the Women's Minutes of Bush River MM have been lost, and there seems to be no indication in the abstracted Men's and Women's Minutes which exist as to whose wife Lydia Herbert might have been. Walter Herbert, (born 1873) son of Walter Harbert Sr. and Ann, lived until 1851 and was buried in the Bush River Cemetery. He appears to have been disowned by Bush River MM on 1st mo. 29, 1803. He married Ann Galbreath.. I have probably mentioned in another mailing that I doubted whether Walter Harbert Sr. and his wife, Ann, were members of Friends when they arrived at Bush River. Walter was received into membership by his request on 3 mo. 30, 1776. Ann was probably received at the same time, although the Women's Minutes for that time frame had been lost. It appears that Walter Harbert (b. 1742 ) was a grandson of Walter Harbert 1673-1755), a physician, a member of Middletown Friends Meeting near Shrewsbury, Monmouth County, New Jersey. This Walter Harbert is mentioned by traveling Friends ministers of the time as someone who would accompany them from one place to another. It appears that Walter Harbert (b. 1742) was a son of Paul Harbert (b. 1715), a son of Walter Harbert, the physician. Paul Harbert seems to disappear from Quaker records as a young man. He may have died before his father and is not mentioned in his father's will. I would suspect that Paul Harbert may have married a non-Friend, and his son, Walter Harbert (b. 1742) may have married a non-Friend. However this Walter Harbert who migrated to South Carolina, if he spent his childhood in New Jersey, could have remembered his grandfather, the Quaker physician. During the years from 1720 to 1750, there was significant Quaker migration from Pennsylvania, Delaware, and New Jersey to Loudon and Frederick Counties in northern Virginia. There seemed to be several Harbert families from New Jersey in this migration. Some settled near Winchester Virginia, tending to become Baptists. A number of the early Quaker settlers at Bush River came from the Winchester area. It is my unproven theory that Walter Harbert (b. 1742) and Ann may have migrated first to Winchester and then joined with the migration to South Carolina. - Herbert Standing, Earlham, Iowa. **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)