There is considerable documentation of their marriage, but no absolute documentary connection to the Quaker Harberts of Newberry Co. Penina(h) Liles/Lyles (called Nina) was born 1785 in Edgefield Co SC, daughter of David and Deborah Liles. The family lived on Halfway Swamp of the Saluda River (just across from Newberry Co), were on the Edgefield censuses of 1790 and 1800, in Abbeville in 1810. In 1820, Deborah Liles was a 45+ head-of-household in Abbeville (M33, Roll 118, p. 35) with 4 sons and a daughter in residence. The adjacent household was headed by Lynah (sic) Herbert or Herbirt, a woman 26<45 with 2 sons under 10. If that's "Nina" (which seems likely), her family included Joseph Lyles Harbert, b. 4 Mar 1813, and Allen Walter Harbert, b. ~1815. She is attributed with two additional sons by Liles family historians, a Thomas Harbert b. ~1817 and James Dennis Harbert, b. 10 Dec 1823. Perhaps her husband went-missing, returned later. Deborah Liles died in 1825, Joseph Liles (her oldest son) was appointed administrator on 3 Oct 1825 (Abbeville Probate Records, Box 56, Pack 1323). I haven't seen an abstract of the probate records, but they are said to name John Harbert as Peninah's husband. Widow Peninah Harbert and her Liles siblings were all in Pickens Co (Oconee Section) by 1840. I can't check the census listings to see how many sons she had, because HeritageQuest does not index the censuses of 1830-50, doesn't do Soundex anyway. Peninah died between 1850 and 1860. It is certainly possible that John Harbert (b. 1769) second-married Peninah Lyles (b. 1785) in Edgefield or Abbeville Co SC in ~1812. The name of Peninah's son Allen Walter Harbert is at least suggestive of that. Joseph Liles, brother of Peninah, signed his will on 28 Dec 1869 in Oconee (formerly Pickens) Co SC. The will, and extensive probate documents, are online at http://home.earthlink.net/~jbl12403/lyles_family/Joseph.Will.html. Residual legatees, after the death of his wife, were his siblings or their surviving children. The children of Nina (Peninah) Lyles Harbert who survived her brother Joseph Lyles in 1870 were Joseph L. (Lyles) Harbert and Allen (Walter) Harbert. Allen W. Herbert stated in the 1880 Oconee Co census that both his parents were born in SC. A man named Walter Herbert owned land in Edgefield Co by 1813, very near the previous residence of the David Liles family. Walter Herbert (b. 1773 in Newberry Co) owned Edgefield Co. lands adjacent to lands of his sons Isaac and William in the 1840's. John Harbert (b. 1769) has no land references in Edgefield Co at all--not even listed as an adjacent landowner to anybody. This does not mean that he couldn't have met-and-married a woman in the region, following the death of whoever he'd married in 1789 (probably a Lydia). Harriet Imrey [email protected]