Mary, Your Hannah is almost certainly from my Quaker line. I just came on line & have not read all of this. I'll get back with you before the day is out. Phil Hawkins, Administrator 21 Apr 2008 Hawkins Worldwide DNA Project Family Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hawkinsdnaproject/tree_g-1.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Tilstra" <[email protected]> To: "'marsha moses'" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Joseph Hollingsworth > Much of my information back from Hannah is second hand but I believe she > was > born in 1793 in Union County, SC and her parents were Benjamin and Martha > Hollingsworth Hawkins. > > -----Original Message----- > From: marsha moses [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:09 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Joseph Hollingsworth > > Mary, according to the Hawkins surname DNA project there were two > separate Hawkins lines in the general area of Newberry. Do you have any > more information about Hannah Hawkins? Marsha Moses > > Mary Tilstra wrote: > >>Starting with what I know (based on death and marriage certificates etc) >>my >>Hollingsworth ancestry is: >> >> >> >>Mary Kathryn Hollingsworth Tilstra (Roger R) b. 21 January 1950 Watseka, >>IL >> >>Erle Howard Hollingsworth b. 19 December 1917 near Onarga, IL d. 14 > November >>1993 Kankakee, IL m. 28 March 1948 to Blanche Elaine Lindsay >> >>Victor Earl Hollingsworth b. 21 Dec 1892 near Onarga, IL d. 22 May 1971 at >>Watseka, IL m. 11 October 1915 to Mildred Lyon >> >>William Harvey (aka Harve) Hollingsworth b. 2 August 1864 near Onarga, IL >>d. 19 Feb 1950 Onarga, IL m. 27 Feb 1889 to Katherine Emma Doyle >> >>William Hollingsworth b. 29 April 1817 near Hamilton, Butler Co, OH d. 28 >>April 1894 at Onarga, IL m. 26 March 1857 to Sarah Meeks >> >> >> >>The next generation is where my proofs start to lag. William >>Hollingsworth >>states in his portrait in Portrait and Biographical Record of Iroquois >>County, Illinois 1894 that: >> >> >> >>"his father, Joseph Hollingsworth was a native of South Caroline and > married >>Hannah Hawkins." Census records from Illinois and Indiana seem to bear > this >>out. >> >> >> >>"his death, (Joseph's) occurred about 1852" in Tippecanoe County, Indiana. >>This again is entirely possible but I can't prove it. I believe that this >>Joseph was one of the founders of the Quaker Meeting at Farmer's >>Institute. >>The Farmer's Institute MM minutes (partial) that I was able to find stated >>that in 1844 William, Joseph, John, Amos, Mary & Hannah, were Original > Mbrs. >>However, these minutes cover the time period from 1844 to 1867 and there >>is >>no mention of Joseph's death in 1852. Again, census records seem to >>indicate that he did die between 1850 and 1860. Joseph (age 74) appears >>on >>the rolls of Wayne Twp, Tippecanoe Co, IN in 1850 with spouse Hannah (aged >>56) and children James (20), Joseph (27), Sarah (12), William (33). By >>the >>1860 census Joseph's wife Hannah (age 67) is living in Wayne Twp but with >>William (41) and his wife Sarah (26) and their son, Joseph (2) as well as >>William's brother Joseph (38). >> >> >> >>Hannah Hawkins Hollingsworth's death occurred in 1866 in Illinois. The >>Farmer's Institute MM minutes state that on 7-20-1867 Hannah gct Onarga >>MM, >>IL - she dec before it was rec there" So I'm assuming this date is close >>to actuality. She is supposed to be buried at Ash Grove, Illinois but I >>could not locate the grave there. >> >> >> >>I corresponded with Harry Hollingsworth in December 1976 and he said that >>Descendants of Valentine Hollingsworth, Sr by J Adger Stewart (page 75) >>shows this Joseph Hollingsworth to go back to Valentine through Joseph >>(Margaret Wright Hammer), George, Abraham, Thomas, Valentine. However, > that >>is really the only place I found anything that stated specifically that >>Joseph (m. Hannah Hawkins) was the son of Joseph (m. Margaret Wright >>Hammer) and I understand that there are known errors in this book. >> >> >> >>William stated in the above mentioned portrait that he was one of seven >>children. The other named are Amos (d. 1872), Martha (d. 1892), Benjamin >>(resident of California or Quaker Minister residing in Indiana according >>to >>obituary), Joseph (engaged in farming near Wichita, Kansas), Seth >>(resident >>farm of Arkansas) and James (retired farmer who now makes his home in > Kansas >>City). Just wondered if there were other ancestors of Joseph and Hannah >>Hawkins Hollingsworth who had run across more definitive proof linking >>this >>Joseph to Joseph and Margaret Wright Hammer Hollingsworth. >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Please, please remove my name and e-mail address from your list Phil Hawkins <[email protected]> wrote: Mary, Your Hannah is almost certainly from my Quaker line. I just came on line & have not read all of this. I'll get back with you before the day is out. Phil Hawkins, Administrator 21 Apr 2008 Hawkins Worldwide DNA Project Family Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hawkinsdnaproject/tree_g-1.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Tilstra" To: "'marsha moses'" ; Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Joseph Hollingsworth > Much of my information back from Hannah is second hand but I believe she > was > born in 1793 in Union County, SC and her parents were Benjamin and Martha > Hollingsworth Hawkins. > > -----Original Message----- > From: marsha moses [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:09 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Joseph Hollingsworth > > Mary, according to the Hawkins surname DNA project there were two > separate Hawkins lines in the general area of Newberry. Do you have any > more information about Hannah Hawkins? Marsha Moses > > Mary Tilstra wrote: > >>Starting with what I know (based on death and marriage certificates etc) >>my >>Hollingsworth ancestry is: >> >> >> >>Mary Kathryn Hollingsworth Tilstra (Roger R) b. 21 January 1950 Watseka, >>IL >> >>Erle Howard Hollingsworth b. 19 December 1917 near Onarga, IL d. 14 > November >>1993 Kankakee, IL m. 28 March 1948 to Blanche Elaine Lindsay >> >>Victor Earl Hollingsworth b. 21 Dec 1892 near Onarga, IL d. 22 May 1971 at >>Watseka, IL m. 11 October 1915 to Mildred Lyon >> >>William Harvey (aka Harve) Hollingsworth b. 2 August 1864 near Onarga, IL >>d. 19 Feb 1950 Onarga, IL m. 27 Feb 1889 to Katherine Emma Doyle >> >>William Hollingsworth b. 29 April 1817 near Hamilton, Butler Co, OH d. 28 >>April 1894 at Onarga, IL m. 26 March 1857 to Sarah Meeks >> >> >> >>The next generation is where my proofs start to lag. William >>Hollingsworth >>states in his portrait in Portrait and Biographical Record of Iroquois >>County, Illinois 1894 that: >> >> >> >>"his father, Joseph Hollingsworth was a native of South Caroline and > married >>Hannah Hawkins." Census records from Illinois and Indiana seem to bear > this >>out. >> >> >> >>"his death, (Joseph's) occurred about 1852" in Tippecanoe County, Indiana. >>This again is entirely possible but I can't prove it. I believe that this >>Joseph was one of the founders of the Quaker Meeting at Farmer's >>Institute. >>The Farmer's Institute MM minutes (partial) that I was able to find stated >>that in 1844 William, Joseph, John, Amos, Mary & Hannah, were Original > Mbrs. >>However, these minutes cover the time period from 1844 to 1867 and there >>is >>no mention of Joseph's death in 1852. Again, census records seem to >>indicate that he did die between 1850 and 1860. Joseph (age 74) appears >>on >>the rolls of Wayne Twp, Tippecanoe Co, IN in 1850 with spouse Hannah (aged >>56) and children James (20), Joseph (27), Sarah (12), William (33). By >>the >>1860 census Joseph's wife Hannah (age 67) is living in Wayne Twp but with >>William (41) and his wife Sarah (26) and their son, Joseph (2) as well as >>William's brother Joseph (38). >> >> >> >>Hannah Hawkins Hollingsworth's death occurred in 1866 in Illinois. The >>Farmer's Institute MM minutes state that on 7-20-1867 Hannah gct Onarga >>MM, >>IL - she dec before it was rec there" So I'm assuming this date is close >>to actuality. She is supposed to be buried at Ash Grove, Illinois but I >>could not locate the grave there. >> >> >> >>I corresponded with Harry Hollingsworth in December 1976 and he said that >>Descendants of Valentine Hollingsworth, Sr by J Adger Stewart (page 75) >>shows this Joseph Hollingsworth to go back to Valentine through Joseph >>(Margaret Wright Hammer), George, Abraham, Thomas, Valentine. However, > that >>is really the only place I found anything that stated specifically that >>Joseph (m. Hannah Hawkins) was the son of Joseph (m. Margaret Wright >>Hammer) and I understand that there are known errors in this book. >> >> >> >>William stated in the above mentioned portrait that he was one of seven >>children. The other named are Amos (d. 1872), Martha (d. 1892), Benjamin >>(resident of California or Quaker Minister residing in Indiana according >>to >>obituary), Joseph (engaged in farming near Wichita, Kansas), Seth >>(resident >>farm of Arkansas) and James (retired farmer who now makes his home in > Kansas >>City). Just wondered if there were other ancestors of Joseph and Hannah >>Hawkins Hollingsworth who had run across more definitive proof linking >>this >>Joseph to Joseph and Margaret Wright Hammer Hollingsworth. >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
John. Please use the following information to unsubscribe from this list: To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Thanks and good luck, John -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of John Crouch Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2008 9:00 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Joseph Hollingsworth Please, please remove my name and e-mail address from your list Phil Hawkins <[email protected]> wrote: Mary, Your Hannah is almost certainly from my Quaker line. I just came on line & have not read all of this. I'll get back with you before the day is out. Phil Hawkins, Administrator 21 Apr 2008 Hawkins Worldwide DNA Project Family Site: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hawkinsdnaproject/tree_g-1.html ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Tilstra" To: "'marsha moses'" ; Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:22 AM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Joseph Hollingsworth > Much of my information back from Hannah is second hand but I believe she > was > born in 1793 in Union County, SC and her parents were Benjamin and Martha > Hollingsworth Hawkins. > > -----Original Message----- > From: marsha moses [mailto:[email protected]] > Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 8:09 AM > To: [email protected]; [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Joseph Hollingsworth > > Mary, according to the Hawkins surname DNA project there were two > separate Hawkins lines in the general area of Newberry. Do you have any > more information about Hannah Hawkins? Marsha Moses > > Mary Tilstra wrote: > >>Starting with what I know (based on death and marriage certificates etc) >>my >>Hollingsworth ancestry is: >> >> >> >>Mary Kathryn Hollingsworth Tilstra (Roger R) b. 21 January 1950 Watseka, >>IL >> >>Erle Howard Hollingsworth b. 19 December 1917 near Onarga, IL d. 14 > November >>1993 Kankakee, IL m. 28 March 1948 to Blanche Elaine Lindsay >> >>Victor Earl Hollingsworth b. 21 Dec 1892 near Onarga, IL d. 22 May 1971 at >>Watseka, IL m. 11 October 1915 to Mildred Lyon >> >>William Harvey (aka Harve) Hollingsworth b. 2 August 1864 near Onarga, IL >>d. 19 Feb 1950 Onarga, IL m. 27 Feb 1889 to Katherine Emma Doyle >> >>William Hollingsworth b. 29 April 1817 near Hamilton, Butler Co, OH d. 28 >>April 1894 at Onarga, IL m. 26 March 1857 to Sarah Meeks >> >> >> >>The next generation is where my proofs start to lag. William >>Hollingsworth >>states in his portrait in Portrait and Biographical Record of Iroquois >>County, Illinois 1894 that: >> >> >> >>"his father, Joseph Hollingsworth was a native of South Caroline and > married >>Hannah Hawkins." Census records from Illinois and Indiana seem to bear > this >>out. >> >> >> >>"his death, (Joseph's) occurred about 1852" in Tippecanoe County, Indiana. >>This again is entirely possible but I can't prove it. I believe that this >>Joseph was one of the founders of the Quaker Meeting at Farmer's >>Institute. >>The Farmer's Institute MM minutes (partial) that I was able to find stated >>that in 1844 William, Joseph, John, Amos, Mary & Hannah, were Original > Mbrs. >>However, these minutes cover the time period from 1844 to 1867 and there >>is >>no mention of Joseph's death in 1852. Again, census records seem to >>indicate that he did die between 1850 and 1860. Joseph (age 74) appears >>on >>the rolls of Wayne Twp, Tippecanoe Co, IN in 1850 with spouse Hannah (aged >>56) and children James (20), Joseph (27), Sarah (12), William (33). By >>the >>1860 census Joseph's wife Hannah (age 67) is living in Wayne Twp but with >>William (41) and his wife Sarah (26) and their son, Joseph (2) as well as >>William's brother Joseph (38). >> >> >> >>Hannah Hawkins Hollingsworth's death occurred in 1866 in Illinois. The >>Farmer's Institute MM minutes state that on 7-20-1867 Hannah gct Onarga >>MM, >>IL - she dec before it was rec there" So I'm assuming this date is close >>to actuality. She is supposed to be buried at Ash Grove, Illinois but I >>could not locate the grave there. >> >> >> >>I corresponded with Harry Hollingsworth in December 1976 and he said that >>Descendants of Valentine Hollingsworth, Sr by J Adger Stewart (page 75) >>shows this Joseph Hollingsworth to go back to Valentine through Joseph >>(Margaret Wright Hammer), George, Abraham, Thomas, Valentine. However, > that >>is really the only place I found anything that stated specifically that >>Joseph (m. Hannah Hawkins) was the son of Joseph (m. Margaret Wright >>Hammer) and I understand that there are known errors in this book. >> >> >> >>William stated in the above mentioned portrait that he was one of seven >>children. The other named are Amos (d. 1872), Martha (d. 1892), Benjamin >>(resident of California or Quaker Minister residing in Indiana according >>to >>obituary), Joseph (engaged in farming near Wichita, Kansas), Seth >>(resident >>farm of Arkansas) and James (retired farmer who now makes his home in > Kansas >>City). Just wondered if there were other ancestors of Joseph and Hannah >>Hawkins Hollingsworth who had run across more definitive proof linking >>this >>Joseph to Joseph and Margaret Wright Hammer Hollingsworth. >> >> >>------------------------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. 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