Ann, Sorry but I just found this message and need to reply so you know I got it. I don't know what happened but I have found a lot of messages from the same period as yours that, apparently, are the first time I have seen them. I must have been "out of it" or these were buried in a large list that overwhelmed me. I do apologize. And unfortunately I can't help you other than to check out the Maryland records as well as PA and VA. If Dodd was in fact an itinerant craftsman he may have worked his was to VA through MD. He must have been either very good or very bad to have moved around that much. Greatly on call, or run out of town. OK again, sorry I forgot you. Dave > From: jacrocker@windstream.net > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:58:57 -0400 > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Sticky problems with Dodd spouses Chester, PA; VA; SC > > Dave, > > Beginning at the beginning: > William Dodd married between 1725 and 1730; from ca 1718 through 1725 > he appears in the Chester taxlists of the Thornbury, Concord, Kennett > area without property but as a freeman. He's missing from 1726 through > 1730 (someone says they had him on a list, in the area for 1730 but it > wasn't indexed in Chester and I spent several days combing through the > microfilmed orginials). From 1731 through 1740 he appears with > property in Kennett, no longer taxed as a freeman. > Presumably William Dodd married ca 1725 but perhaps out of Chester > Co., PA, in one of the adjacent counties/states (so far no luck > finding him. > This is consistent with the guesses of children's births based on > earliest marriages in Fairfax MM records. > > William Dodd appears in Prince William, VA, buying land and working as > a surveyor from late 1740/early 1741 on. > One of his earliest deeds states that he was lately of Pennsylvania. > > So far I've found no other records in PA or adjacent states for a > William Dodd, although there are multiple entries for William Dodd in > Chester, several in the same year in adjacent townships--multiple > times. No other Dodd variant surnames appear in Chester until (top of > head) one other William Dodd entry appears (total of three or four for > that tax year) but in a township more to the NE of Chester, so outside > of the cluster I'm examining. > > My working theory is that these William Dodd entries, consistent in > classification and tax bracket may indicate that my William was an > itinerate journeyman/craftsman plying his trade in multiple adjacent > townships. Feel free to blow holes in such a theory. Sometimes the > enumerators were the same person, spending ca 2 days in one township > and then 2 days in the next. You'd think with the listings sometimes > only 3 to 5 dozen names, they'd know if they were listing the same man > in two townships, let alone three. There was a note on at least one > of these taxlists indicating an appeals process, but neither of the > archivists I talked with knew of any appeals lists. > > So I'm looking for a wife who was not a practicing Quaker; William > Dodd does not appear in PA Quaker records. > > In VA William Dodd and wife Catherine LNU oined Fairfax MM ca 1746; > double checked the wording on the originals at Swarthmore. This > Catherine may not be the mother of the older children--no use of > Catherine in this family that recycled names down to the present > generations. So there may be 2 wives I need names for. Family lore > says there were two and that the second was pure blooded Irish, > suggesting the perhaps William Dodd was not of Irish stock perhaps. > > William's first trouble in Fairfax MM records comes in 1747 when > daughter Ann has married out to FNU Richardson. I have no idea which > of the many Ann Richardsons in the Loudoun area she might be. > Son Edward Dodd gets permission to marry at Hopewell MM; wife is Mary > Littler according to civil records; 3 daughters are listed in Hopewell > MM but only one Albenah marries in unity to a Thornberry; I don't > have spouses for the other daughters or for Edward Jr, executor for > father although not mentioned in Quaker records; nor were 2 other > presumed sons of Edward mentioned at Hopewell. > > Over at Fairfax MM we have William's daughters Jane marrying John > Gore, Margaret marrying George Norman, and son John marrying Jane > McDowell --all out of untiy. Son Thomas marries in Fairfax MM (hooray! > 0 in 1762 a Sarah Sample, who is the only one of this Dodd clan to > take her Quakerism as a lifelong calling. But I can find no record of > her joining a Quaker meeting prior to this 1762 marriage and there are > no other Sample/Semple/Simple variant names in Quaker records in the > area. I know there was at least one Quaker family with the Sample > name in PA that moved on to the midwest, but there is again no record > of a daughter Sarah of the right age to have been whisked away to > marry in Fairfax MM. > HELP. > > The Dodd men all strayed outside marriage. We have a Jennings line > that comes out of Loudoun that matches our Dodds at 67 markers, > presumably the child of one of the above men or of the youngest, born > in the early 1740's but already noted for his misbehaving in his mid > teens: Jesse Dodd. Jesse Dodd moved with sibs Thomas, Jane Gore, and > Margaret Norman, and most probably parents William and Catherine to > the Newberry/Union area in late fall 1768. Thomas had bought land in > Newberry but the clan settled by 1770/71 in what became Union in the > Padgett's Creek area just on the Enoree. > > Jesse Dodd's wife of record in Union is Mary LNU (Bobo is tradition > among Dodd clan, but the Bobo family doesn't have a spare Mary Bobo to > match the 1770-1800 time period for Jesse Dodd. So I need Jesse's > wife/wives. > > Jesse Dodd had a son Jesse II who also has 2 or possibly 3 wives in > Union ca 1790-before 1857 (he died leaving no widow but a wife Frances > is on 1850 census). > > The Jesses were involved with all the neighboring Quaker and former > Quaker families; suggested wives could be from the Blackburn, > Thompson, Kennedy/Canady, Glen neighbors also. > > It is also avidly stated by family branches that Jesse I had several > children, including another son Edward born ca 1774/6 who had a wife > Polly Langston and at least one daughter born ca 1810/15 named Nancy > B. My line comes from this Nancy B Dodd who married a son of Jesse II > anc their youngest child married a descendant of Thomas Dodd/Sarah > Sample, > > So I have a personal interest in several of these wife problems and a > familial interest in solving many other Dodd spouse problems. > > Again, my Dodds were only briefly Quakers (1745 to the Revolution > roughly, except Sarah Sample Dodd who married 2nd ca 1792 at > Padgett's Creek Quaker John Niederman -- and he brings in another > whole kettle of problems with wives and children). > But the Dodds lived among Quakers in Chester, PA, and when they left > VA they migrated with Quaker and former Quaker families to Hopewell, > Bush River and Padgett's Creek, to Greene, TN, and to Muskingum, OH. > For example, in Loudoun John/ Jane McDowell's son William married a > Pancost, a Best, and a Wilson; daughter Ann married a Lacey; daughter > Lydia married a Wilson; no wife but 2 children for son Thomas; > daughter Betsy married a Devine and lived in Waterford; son Jesse > married a Tribbee; son Samuel married a Smith but seems to have had a > first marriage leaving children Jane and Samuel; daughter Mary also > married a Tribbee; son John Jr seems to have cared for nieces and > nephews whose parents are unclear but remained unwed; daughter Sarah > married a Foreman. > And Edward of Hopewell had son John who married a Clark with son John > who married a Hoggatt In Greene, TN, and then went on to Galatia, > Saline, IL. > > > Ah, I forgot daughter Lydia in Loudoun, VA, who follows her brothers' > misbehavior and is noted in bastardy bonds several times, notably with > a Josiah Miles as responsible party before 1762, but Lydia signs > Thomas and Sarah Sample's marriage certificate as Lydia Dodd. Did she > later marry? > > So you good correspondents and friends might be some of my best > resources for possible clues to these sticky Dodd spouse issues. > > Anne > > On Jun 7, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Dave Gauntt wrote: > > > > > Anne, > > What are the sticky problems you are encountering regarding the > > wives? > > And who do you have in Chester, PA? > > Dave Gauntt > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for responding, Dave. I have so many flagged emails that I need to go back to! I do think that my William Dodd is probably the one consistently in Kennett, Chester, PA, ca 1731-40 taxlists. a 1741/42 deed from Prince William, VA (then mega country) states he was lately of PA. I keep looking in MD counties adjacent to the Potomac around Northern Neck area of VA for clues. Anne On Feb 7, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Dave Gauntt wrote: > > Ann, > Sorry but I just found this message and need to reply so you know > I got it. > I don't know what happened but I have found a lot of messages from > the same > period as yours that, apparently, are the first time I have seen > them. I must > have been "out of it" or these were buried in a large list that > overwhelmed me. > I do apologize. And unfortunately I can't help you other than to > check out the > Maryland records as well as PA and VA. If Dodd was in fact an > itinerant craftsman > he may have worked his was to VA through MD. He must have been > either very > good or very bad to have moved around that much. Greatly on call, > or run out of town. > OK again, sorry I forgot you. > Dave > >> From: jacrocker@windstream.net >> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com >> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:58:57 -0400 >> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Sticky problems with Dodd >> spouses Chester, PA; VA; SC >> >> Dave, >> >> Beginning at the beginning: >> William Dodd married between 1725 and 1730; from ca 1718 through 1725 >> he appears in the Chester taxlists of the Thornbury, Concord, Kennett >> area without property but as a freeman. He's missing from 1726 >> through >> 1730 (someone says they had him on a list, in the area for 1730 but >> it >> wasn't indexed in Chester and I spent several days combing through >> the >> microfilmed orginials). From 1731 through 1740 he appears with >> property in Kennett, no longer taxed as a freeman. >> Presumably William Dodd married ca 1725 but perhaps out of Chester >> Co., PA, in one of the adjacent counties/states (so far no luck >> finding him. >> This is consistent with the guesses of children's births based on >> earliest marriages in Fairfax MM records. >> >> William Dodd appears in Prince William, VA, buying land and working >> as >> a surveyor from late 1740/early 1741 on. >> One of his earliest deeds states that he was lately of Pennsylvania. >> >> So far I've found no other records in PA or adjacent states for a >> William Dodd, although there are multiple entries for William Dodd in >> Chester, several in the same year in adjacent townships--multiple >> times. No other Dodd variant surnames appear in Chester until (top >> of >> head) one other William Dodd entry appears (total of three or four >> for >> that tax year) but in a township more to the NE of Chester, so >> outside >> of the cluster I'm examining. >> >> My working theory is that these William Dodd entries, consistent in >> classification and tax bracket may indicate that my William was an >> itinerate journeyman/craftsman plying his trade in multiple adjacent >> townships. Feel free to blow holes in such a theory. Sometimes the >> enumerators were the same person, spending ca 2 days in one township >> and then 2 days in the next. You'd think with the listings sometimes >> only 3 to 5 dozen names, they'd know if they were listing the same >> man >> in two townships, let alone three. There was a note on at least one >> of these taxlists indicating an appeals process, but neither of the >> archivists I talked with knew of any appeals lists. >> >> So I'm looking for a wife who was not a practicing Quaker; William >> Dodd does not appear in PA Quaker records. >> >> In VA William Dodd and wife Catherine LNU oined Fairfax MM ca 1746; >> double checked the wording on the originals at Swarthmore. This >> Catherine may not be the mother of the older children--no use of >> Catherine in this family that recycled names down to the present >> generations. So there may be 2 wives I need names for. Family lore >> says there were two and that the second was pure blooded Irish, >> suggesting the perhaps William Dodd was not of Irish stock perhaps. >> >> William's first trouble in Fairfax MM records comes in 1747 when >> daughter Ann has married out to FNU Richardson. I have no idea which >> of the many Ann Richardsons in the Loudoun area she might be. >> Son Edward Dodd gets permission to marry at Hopewell MM; wife is Mary >> Littler according to civil records; 3 daughters are listed in >> Hopewell >> MM but only one Albenah marries in unity to a Thornberry; I don't >> have spouses for the other daughters or for Edward Jr, executor for >> father although not mentioned in Quaker records; nor were 2 other >> presumed sons of Edward mentioned at Hopewell. >> >> Over at Fairfax MM we have William's daughters Jane marrying John >> Gore, Margaret marrying George Norman, and son John marrying Jane >> McDowell --all out of untiy. Son Thomas marries in Fairfax MM >> (hooray! >> 0 in 1762 a Sarah Sample, who is the only one of this Dodd clan to >> take her Quakerism as a lifelong calling. But I can find no record >> of >> her joining a Quaker meeting prior to this 1762 marriage and there >> are >> no other Sample/Semple/Simple variant names in Quaker records in the >> area. I know there was at least one Quaker family with the Sample >> name in PA that moved on to the midwest, but there is again no record >> of a daughter Sarah of the right age to have been whisked away to >> marry in Fairfax MM. >> HELP. >> >> The Dodd men all strayed outside marriage. We have a Jennings line >> that comes out of Loudoun that matches our Dodds at 67 markers, >> presumably the child of one of the above men or of the youngest, born >> in the early 1740's but already noted for his misbehaving in his mid >> teens: Jesse Dodd. Jesse Dodd moved with sibs Thomas, Jane Gore, >> and >> Margaret Norman, and most probably parents William and Catherine to >> the Newberry/Union area in late fall 1768. Thomas had bought land in >> Newberry but the clan settled by 1770/71 in what became Union in the >> Padgett's Creek area just on the Enoree. >> >> Jesse Dodd's wife of record in Union is Mary LNU (Bobo is tradition >> among Dodd clan, but the Bobo family doesn't have a spare Mary Bobo >> to >> match the 1770-1800 time period for Jesse Dodd. So I need Jesse's >> wife/wives. >> >> Jesse Dodd had a son Jesse II who also has 2 or possibly 3 wives in >> Union ca 1790-before 1857 (he died leaving no widow but a wife >> Frances >> is on 1850 census). >> >> The Jesses were involved with all the neighboring Quaker and former >> Quaker families; suggested wives could be from the Blackburn, >> Thompson, Kennedy/Canady, Glen neighbors also. >> >> It is also avidly stated by family branches that Jesse I had several >> children, including another son Edward born ca 1774/6 who had a wife >> Polly Langston and at least one daughter born ca 1810/15 named Nancy >> B. My line comes from this Nancy B Dodd who married a son of Jesse >> II >> anc their youngest child married a descendant of Thomas Dodd/Sarah >> Sample, >> >> So I have a personal interest in several of these wife problems and a >> familial interest in solving many other Dodd spouse problems. >> >> Again, my Dodds were only briefly Quakers (1745 to the Revolution >> roughly, except Sarah Sample Dodd who married 2nd ca 1792 at >> Padgett's Creek Quaker John Niederman -- and he brings in another >> whole kettle of problems with wives and children). >> But the Dodds lived among Quakers in Chester, PA, and when they left >> VA they migrated with Quaker and former Quaker families to Hopewell, >> Bush River and Padgett's Creek, to Greene, TN, and to Muskingum, OH. >> For example, in Loudoun John/ Jane McDowell's son William married a >> Pancost, a Best, and a Wilson; daughter Ann married a Lacey; daughter >> Lydia married a Wilson; no wife but 2 children for son Thomas; >> daughter Betsy married a Devine and lived in Waterford; son Jesse >> married a Tribbee; son Samuel married a Smith but seems to have had a >> first marriage leaving children Jane and Samuel; daughter Mary also >> married a Tribbee; son John Jr seems to have cared for nieces and >> nephews whose parents are unclear but remained unwed; daughter Sarah >> married a Foreman. >> And Edward of Hopewell had son John who married a Clark with son John >> who married a Hoggatt In Greene, TN, and then went on to Galatia, >> Saline, IL. >> >> >> Ah, I forgot daughter Lydia in Loudoun, VA, who follows her brothers' >> misbehavior and is noted in bastardy bonds several times, notably >> with >> a Josiah Miles as responsible party before 1762, but Lydia signs >> Thomas and Sarah Sample's marriage certificate as Lydia Dodd. Did >> she >> later marry? >> >> So you good correspondents and friends might be some of my best >> resources for possible clues to these sticky Dodd spouse issues. >> >> Anne >> >> On Jun 7, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Dave Gauntt wrote: >> >>> >>> Anne, >>> What are the sticky problems you are encountering regarding the >>> wives? >>> And who do you have in Chester, PA? >>> Dave Gauntt >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message