Thanks for letting me know. Dave > From: jacrocker@windstream.net > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2011 12:39:41 -0500 > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Sticky problems with Dodd spouses Chester, PA; VA; SC > > Thanks for responding, Dave. > > I have so many flagged emails that I need to go back to! > > I do think that my William Dodd is probably the one consistently in > Kennett, Chester, PA, ca 1731-40 taxlists. a 1741/42 deed from Prince > William, VA (then mega country) states he was lately of PA. I keep > looking in MD counties adjacent to the Potomac around Northern Neck > area of VA for clues. > > Anne > On Feb 7, 2011, at 9:55 PM, Dave Gauntt wrote: > > > > > Ann, > > Sorry but I just found this message and need to reply so you know > > I got it. > > I don't know what happened but I have found a lot of messages from > > the same > > period as yours that, apparently, are the first time I have seen > > them. I must > > have been "out of it" or these were buried in a large list that > > overwhelmed me. > > I do apologize. And unfortunately I can't help you other than to > > check out the > > Maryland records as well as PA and VA. If Dodd was in fact an > > itinerant craftsman > > he may have worked his was to VA through MD. He must have been > > either very > > good or very bad to have moved around that much. Greatly on call, > > or run out of town. > > OK again, sorry I forgot you. > > Dave > > > >> From: jacrocker@windstream.net > >> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > >> Date: Mon, 7 Jun 2010 21:58:57 -0400 > >> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Sticky problems with Dodd > >> spouses Chester, PA; VA; SC > >> > >> Dave, > >> > >> Beginning at the beginning: > >> William Dodd married between 1725 and 1730; from ca 1718 through 1725 > >> he appears in the Chester taxlists of the Thornbury, Concord, Kennett > >> area without property but as a freeman. He's missing from 1726 > >> through > >> 1730 (someone says they had him on a list, in the area for 1730 but > >> it > >> wasn't indexed in Chester and I spent several days combing through > >> the > >> microfilmed orginials). From 1731 through 1740 he appears with > >> property in Kennett, no longer taxed as a freeman. > >> Presumably William Dodd married ca 1725 but perhaps out of Chester > >> Co., PA, in one of the adjacent counties/states (so far no luck > >> finding him. > >> This is consistent with the guesses of children's births based on > >> earliest marriages in Fairfax MM records. > >> > >> William Dodd appears in Prince William, VA, buying land and working > >> as > >> a surveyor from late 1740/early 1741 on. > >> One of his earliest deeds states that he was lately of Pennsylvania. > >> > >> So far I've found no other records in PA or adjacent states for a > >> William Dodd, although there are multiple entries for William Dodd in > >> Chester, several in the same year in adjacent townships--multiple > >> times. No other Dodd variant surnames appear in Chester until (top > >> of > >> head) one other William Dodd entry appears (total of three or four > >> for > >> that tax year) but in a township more to the NE of Chester, so > >> outside > >> of the cluster I'm examining. > >> > >> My working theory is that these William Dodd entries, consistent in > >> classification and tax bracket may indicate that my William was an > >> itinerate journeyman/craftsman plying his trade in multiple adjacent > >> townships. Feel free to blow holes in such a theory. Sometimes the > >> enumerators were the same person, spending ca 2 days in one township > >> and then 2 days in the next. You'd think with the listings sometimes > >> only 3 to 5 dozen names, they'd know if they were listing the same > >> man > >> in two townships, let alone three. There was a note on at least one > >> of these taxlists indicating an appeals process, but neither of the > >> archivists I talked with knew of any appeals lists. > >> > >> So I'm looking for a wife who was not a practicing Quaker; William > >> Dodd does not appear in PA Quaker records. > >> > >> In VA William Dodd and wife Catherine LNU oined Fairfax MM ca 1746; > >> double checked the wording on the originals at Swarthmore. This > >> Catherine may not be the mother of the older children--no use of > >> Catherine in this family that recycled names down to the present > >> generations. So there may be 2 wives I need names for. Family lore > >> says there were two and that the second was pure blooded Irish, > >> suggesting the perhaps William Dodd was not of Irish stock perhaps. > >> > >> William's first trouble in Fairfax MM records comes in 1747 when > >> daughter Ann has married out to FNU Richardson. I have no idea which > >> of the many Ann Richardsons in the Loudoun area she might be. > >> Son Edward Dodd gets permission to marry at Hopewell MM; wife is Mary > >> Littler according to civil records; 3 daughters are listed in > >> Hopewell > >> MM but only one Albenah marries in unity to a Thornberry; I don't > >> have spouses for the other daughters or for Edward Jr, executor for > >> father although not mentioned in Quaker records; nor were 2 other > >> presumed sons of Edward mentioned at Hopewell. > >> > >> Over at Fairfax MM we have William's daughters Jane marrying John > >> Gore, Margaret marrying George Norman, and son John marrying Jane > >> McDowell --all out of untiy. Son Thomas marries in Fairfax MM > >> (hooray! > >> 0 in 1762 a Sarah Sample, who is the only one of this Dodd clan to > >> take her Quakerism as a lifelong calling. But I can find no record > >> of > >> her joining a Quaker meeting prior to this 1762 marriage and there > >> are > >> no other Sample/Semple/Simple variant names in Quaker records in the > >> area. I know there was at least one Quaker family with the Sample > >> name in PA that moved on to the midwest, but there is again no record > >> of a daughter Sarah of the right age to have been whisked away to > >> marry in Fairfax MM. > >> HELP. > >> > >> The Dodd men all strayed outside marriage. We have a Jennings line > >> that comes out of Loudoun that matches our Dodds at 67 markers, > >> presumably the child of one of the above men or of the youngest, born > >> in the early 1740's but already noted for his misbehaving in his mid > >> teens: Jesse Dodd. Jesse Dodd moved with sibs Thomas, Jane Gore, > >> and > >> Margaret Norman, and most probably parents William and Catherine to > >> the Newberry/Union area in late fall 1768. Thomas had bought land in > >> Newberry but the clan settled by 1770/71 in what became Union in the > >> Padgett's Creek area just on the Enoree. > >> > >> Jesse Dodd's wife of record in Union is Mary LNU (Bobo is tradition > >> among Dodd clan, but the Bobo family doesn't have a spare Mary Bobo > >> to > >> match the 1770-1800 time period for Jesse Dodd. So I need Jesse's > >> wife/wives. > >> > >> Jesse Dodd had a son Jesse II who also has 2 or possibly 3 wives in > >> Union ca 1790-before 1857 (he died leaving no widow but a wife > >> Frances > >> is on 1850 census). > >> > >> The Jesses were involved with all the neighboring Quaker and former > >> Quaker families; suggested wives could be from the Blackburn, > >> Thompson, Kennedy/Canady, Glen neighbors also. > >> > >> It is also avidly stated by family branches that Jesse I had several > >> children, including another son Edward born ca 1774/6 who had a wife > >> Polly Langston and at least one daughter born ca 1810/15 named Nancy > >> B. My line comes from this Nancy B Dodd who married a son of Jesse > >> II > >> anc their youngest child married a descendant of Thomas Dodd/Sarah > >> Sample, > >> > >> So I have a personal interest in several of these wife problems and a > >> familial interest in solving many other Dodd spouse problems. > >> > >> Again, my Dodds were only briefly Quakers (1745 to the Revolution > >> roughly, except Sarah Sample Dodd who married 2nd ca 1792 at > >> Padgett's Creek Quaker John Niederman -- and he brings in another > >> whole kettle of problems with wives and children). > >> But the Dodds lived among Quakers in Chester, PA, and when they left > >> VA they migrated with Quaker and former Quaker families to Hopewell, > >> Bush River and Padgett's Creek, to Greene, TN, and to Muskingum, OH. > >> For example, in Loudoun John/ Jane McDowell's son William married a > >> Pancost, a Best, and a Wilson; daughter Ann married a Lacey; daughter > >> Lydia married a Wilson; no wife but 2 children for son Thomas; > >> daughter Betsy married a Devine and lived in Waterford; son Jesse > >> married a Tribbee; son Samuel married a Smith but seems to have had a > >> first marriage leaving children Jane and Samuel; daughter Mary also > >> married a Tribbee; son John Jr seems to have cared for nieces and > >> nephews whose parents are unclear but remained unwed; daughter Sarah > >> married a Foreman. > >> And Edward of Hopewell had son John who married a Clark with son John > >> who married a Hoggatt In Greene, TN, and then went on to Galatia, > >> Saline, IL. > >> > >> > >> Ah, I forgot daughter Lydia in Loudoun, VA, who follows her brothers' > >> misbehavior and is noted in bastardy bonds several times, notably > >> with > >> a Josiah Miles as responsible party before 1762, but Lydia signs > >> Thomas and Sarah Sample's marriage certificate as Lydia Dodd. Did > >> she > >> later marry? > >> > >> So you good correspondents and friends might be some of my best > >> resources for possible clues to these sticky Dodd spouse issues. > >> > >> Anne > >> > >> On Jun 7, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Dave Gauntt wrote: > >> > >>> > >>> Anne, > >>> What are the sticky problems you are encountering regarding the > >>> wives? > >>> And who do you have in Chester, PA? > >>> Dave Gauntt > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com > >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > >> the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message