Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. It's in the right general region, because the account was included in Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in Laurens Co). There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. Harriet Imrey On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina Williams Swyers
Greetings to all! I noticed a mention in the earlier post about Bush River Baptist Church and their records. Does anyone know what years their records cover and where the records can be viewed? Thanks!Bill BlairDeland, FL * > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:32:32 -0500 > From: hhimrey@gmail.com > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 > > Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record > for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. > 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel > Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC > Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of > paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with > multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, > along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel > Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son > of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station > in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in > the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub > Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. > It's in the right general region, because the account was included in > Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, > Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same > return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That > Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' > Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married > Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they > were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather > Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and > Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in > Laurens Co). > > There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a > Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions > for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very > many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name > connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. > > Harriet Imrey > > On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: > > Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be > a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He > belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is > listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina > Williams Swyers > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Bush River Baptist Church was established in 1771. The records begin, however, in 1791. They are on microfilm at Furman University, Baptist Historical Collection, Greenville, SC. Also, see a book by Leah Townsend, South Carolina Baptists 1670-1803. I can also send a copy of what I have. Tina Swyers bswyers@cableone.net -----Original Message----- From: Bill Blair Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:37 PM To: Bush List Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Baptist Church records Greetings to all! I noticed a mention in the earlier post about Bush River Baptist Church and their records. Does anyone know what years their records cover and where the records can be viewed? Thanks!Bill BlairDeland, FL * > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:32:32 -0500 > From: hhimrey@gmail.com > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., > SC 1771-1824 > > Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record > for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. > 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel > Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC > Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of > paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with > multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, > along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel > Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son > of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station > in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in > the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub > Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. > It's in the right general region, because the account was included in > Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, > Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same > return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That > Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' > Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married > Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they > were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather > Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and > Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in > Laurens Co). > > There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a > Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions > for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very > many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name > connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. > > Harriet Imrey > > On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: > > Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be > a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He > belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is > listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina > Williams Swyers > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Anything know about the batson family -----Original Message----- From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Blair Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:38 PM To: Bush List Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Baptist Church records Greetings to all! I noticed a mention in the earlier post about Bush River Baptist Church and their records. Does anyone know what years their records cover and where the records can be viewed? Thanks!Bill BlairDeland, FL * > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:32:32 -0500 > From: hhimrey@gmail.com > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry > Co., SC 1771-1824 > > Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account > record for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. > 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which > Daniel Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for > SC Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece > of paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man > with multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each > spelling, along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. > The Daniel Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to > Daniel, son of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at > Hayes' Station in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel > Williams who was in the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel > Benton. One of the Stub Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. > It's in the right general region, because the account was included in > Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, > Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same > return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That > Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' > Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married > Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if > they were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather > Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and > Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River > in Laurens Co). > > There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that > a Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or > provisions for some militia company (generally unidentified). There > were so very many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across > a familiar name connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. > > Harriet Imrey > > On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: > > Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should > be a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He > belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is > listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina > Williams Swyers > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just a reminder....there was a Bush River QUAKER congregation and meeting in southeast Newberry County, and, on the other side of the county, the Bush River BAPTIST congregation and church.
Harriet, I have a Revolutionary relative and would like to know if I can find the same type of information on him like you referenced on Daniel Williams ex. A.A.8541 and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). Thank you, Margie -----Original Message----- From: Harriet Imrey Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:32 PM To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. It's in the right general region, because the account was included in Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in Laurens Co). There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. Harriet Imrey On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina Williams Swyers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The fastest way to get the A.A. number (for ordering records from SCDAH) is to use their online search engine at www.archivesindex.sc.gov. Just enter the name of the person as Lastname, Firstname, check the Soundex option (because spellings could be practically anything), and specify years 1775 to 1785. That will catch all the service records with their Accounts Audited numbers. The numbers for the Stub Indents are not included, and are not fully-indexed anywhere. Many of them are noted in Bobby Gilmer Moss, Roster of South Carolina Patriots in the American Revolution. That's the most comprehensive of the reference books for SC military service, but does not include accounts for the provision of supplies. It also includes some material from secondary sources that occasionally turn out to be inaccurate. If you order a copy of an A.A. file, it will include all of the Stub Indent records...although don't count on their being legible or containing much helpful information. An indent signed by "Capt. Smith" won't pinpoint a specific ancestor, unless you already know the locations of all of the Capt. Smiths in Revolutionary SC, and know that your ancestor served with that Capt. Smith. Some of the material covered in the Moss book is online as a Google Book. Since it's copyrighted, not all of it is accessible that way. I have a copy of the book, and can look up a name-and-number, but the online information is the best way to get to a file number for an individual. Harriet On 9/20/2011 6:23 PM, Margie Puckett Barton wrote: > Harriet, I have a Revolutionary relative and would like to know if I can > find the same type of information on him like you referenced on Daniel > Williams ex. A.A.8541 and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). > Thank you, > Margie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harriet Imrey > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:32 PM > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., > SC 1771-1824 > > Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record > for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. > 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel > Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC > Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of > paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with > multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, > along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel > Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son > of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station > in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in > the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub > Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. > It's in the right general region, because the account was included in > Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, > Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same > return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That > Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' > Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married > Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they > were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather > Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and > Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in > Laurens Co). > > There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a > Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions > for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very > many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name > connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. > > Harriet Imrey > > On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina& Bill Swyers wrote: > > Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be > a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He > belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is > listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina > Williams Swyers