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    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 36
    2. Thanks to all who replied. The good news is that I actually got them! I was beginning to think my spam filter was acting up because the list is usually pretty active. Marsha - you've been busy as usual. I've been in "reorganizing" phase for the last couple months, attempting to get my files and documents in order so that in case of my untimely demise someone in my family might actually be able to figure out what I have stored where! And in so doing, I came across an acceptance letter from the Maine chapter of the Mayflower Society, admitting my maternal great-aunt. After a couple emails to them I now have her application and a few sources which were acceptable back then 1930 (I think they're stricter now). The whole lineage societey thing was never anything I aspiree to, but stumbling on the information is certainly interesting. And my youngest nephew is studying that era in school right now, so I'm trying to spark some interest with the (admittedly unsourced) tree I put together for him based on what the Society sent me. The one aunt gets us to 9 Pilgrims which, according to the guy in Maine I corresponded with, is rather unusual ! (of course, he wants me to pony up the $$$ to join!). We'll see...lots of work to be done if we want to pursue. Maybe nephew will get involved. If anyone else has gone through the process and has any advice/insight, please feel free to chime in! Thanks again. Debi Ham ----- Original Message ----- From: sc-bushriverquakers-request@rootsweb.com To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:37:55 PM Subject: SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 36 "PLEASE NOTE: When replying to a digest message, please quote *only the specific portion* of message to which you are replying, removing the rest of the digest from your reply. Also, remember to *change the subject* of your reply so that it coincides with the message subject to which you are replying." Today's Topics: 1. Testing - No Messages from this list (debiham@comcast.net) 2. Re: Testing - No Messages from this list (Carroll Rollins) 3. Militia in SC (marsha moses) 4. Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 (Tina & Bill Swyers) 5. Re: Militia in SC (Carroll Rollins) 6. Re: Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 (Becky and John) 7. Re: Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 (Harriet Imrey) 8. Bush River Baptist Church records (Bill Blair) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:26:10 +0000 (UTC) From: debiham@comcast.net Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Testing - No Messages from this list To: "BushRiver, South Carolina" <SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <2106892829.976251.1316525170613.JavaMail.root@sz0049a.westchester.pa.mail.comcast.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 I haven't seen a message from this mail list in a couple months. Is it still up and running? I haven't changed emails. Just checking! Debi Ham ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:06:30 -0400 From: "Carroll Rollins" <chickennlilbit@charter.net> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Testing - No Messages from this list To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <020801cc779e$7f5cad60$7e160820$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" As far as I kmnow it is -----Original Message----- From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of debiham@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:26 AM To: BushRiver, South Carolina Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Testing - No Messages from this list I haven't seen a message from this mail list in a couple months. Is it still up and running? I haven't changed emails. Just checking! Debi Ham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:02:29 -0400 From: marsha moses <mosesm@earthlink.net> Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Militia in SC To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <861E2C6F-A7A0-4C36-AB88-2C01F84890A8@earthlink.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii It is still up and running, Debi. I have been spending most of my "research" time lately working on the Revolution in the south. If you remember, our mutual George McKinsey is proven to have spent time in the SC militia which would make him a loyalist in this time period. I had Quakers not related to George who were trying to sit out the war in NC.....and a 6-gr-grandfather who may have fought on the patriot side from Wrightsboro, GA.....not to mention several who fought in the south who were from the Shenandoah Valley and from Pittsylvania County, VA....then I had the appalachia ancestors who fought at the Battle of Point Pleasant and at least one who rallied to fight at Kings Mountain. Those are just the men who pop into my mind quickly. Ten years ago I was totally interested in the Civil War and couldn't imagine who would be interested in the Revolution....but that was before I discovered the Revolution in the south! It was our first Civil War. Great to hear from y! ou. marsha On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:26 AM, debiham@comcast.net wrote: > I haven't seen a message from this mail list in a couple months. Is it still up and running? I haven't changed emails. > > Just checking! > > Debi Ham > ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 09:24:10 -0500 From: "Tina & Bill Swyers" <bswyers@cableone.net> Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <727210C5A1CC454CBD880CA3DC3348E8@TinaPC> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina Williams Swyers ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 10:26:46 -0400 From: "Carroll Rollins" <chickennlilbit@charter.net> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Militia in SC To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <021401cc77a1$54078240$fc1686c0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Have you ran across any by the name of BATSON .....that is my ancestors name -----Original Message----- From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marsha moses Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:02 AM To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Militia in SC It is still up and running, Debi. I have been spending most of my "research" time lately working on the Revolution in the south. If you remember, our mutual George McKinsey is proven to have spent time in the SC militia which would make him a loyalist in this time period. I had Quakers not related to George who were trying to sit out the war in NC.....and a 6-gr-grandfather who may have fought on the patriot side from Wrightsboro, GA.....not to mention several who fought in the south who were from the Shenandoah Valley and from Pittsylvania County, VA....then I had the appalachia ancestors who fought at the Battle of Point Pleasant and at least one who rallied to fight at Kings Mountain. Those are just the men who pop into my mind quickly. Ten years ago I was totally interested in the Civil War and couldn't imagine who would be interested in the Revolution....but that was before I discovered the Revolution in the south! It was our first Civil War. Great to hear from y! ou. marsha On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:26 AM, debiham@comcast.net wrote: > I haven't seen a message from this mail list in a couple months. Is it still up and running? I haven't changed emails. > > Just checking! > > Debi Ham > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 15:48:07 -0400 (EDT) From: Becky and John <bjh8118@charter.net> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <7954c842.4cd4e.1328861902c.Webtop.47@charter.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed; delsp=no Hi Tina, I am sorry that I cannot help with your 4g-grandfather Daniel Williams, however, I would like to learn more about the Bush River Baptist Church records (I am not familiar with that church). I had some non-Quaker relatives who lived in Union Co. and would like to know if they perhaps belonged to that church. Thanks, John Hollingsworth On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: > Hi: > I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. > I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be a > listing. > He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He belonged to > the > Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is listed in those > records. > Any other suggestions of where to look? > Tina Williams Swyers > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:32:32 -0500 From: Harriet Imrey <hhimrey@gmail.com> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <4E790670.7090108@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub Indents, U397, was for ?4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. It's in the right general region, because the account was included in Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in Laurens Co). There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. Harriet Imrey On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina Williams Swyers ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 17:37:49 -0400 From: Bill Blair <the.blairs@hotmail.com> Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Baptist Church records To: Bush List <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <SNT135-W97D826B622548528392369F0A0@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Greetings to all! I noticed a mention in the earlier post about Bush River Baptist Church and their records. Does anyone know what years their records cover and where the records can be viewed? Thanks!Bill BlairDeland, FL * > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:32:32 -0500 > From: hhimrey@gmail.com > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 > > Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record > for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. > 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel > Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC > Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of > paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with > multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, > along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel > Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son > of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station > in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in > the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub > Indents, U397, was for ?4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. > It's in the right general region, because the account was included in > Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, > Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same > return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That > Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' > Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married > Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they > were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather > Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and > Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in > Laurens Co). > > There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a > Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions > for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very > many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name > connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. > > Harriet Imrey > > On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: > > Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be > a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He > belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is > listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina > Williams Swyers > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ End of SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS Digest, Vol 5, Issue 36 **************************************************

    09/21/2011 07:46:30
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Baptist Church records
    2. Tina & Bill Swyers
    3. Bush River Baptist Church was established in 1771. The records begin, however, in 1791. They are on microfilm at Furman University, Baptist Historical Collection, Greenville, SC. Also, see a book by Leah Townsend, South Carolina Baptists 1670-1803. I can also send a copy of what I have. Tina Swyers bswyers@cableone.net -----Original Message----- From: Bill Blair Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 4:37 PM To: Bush List Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Baptist Church records Greetings to all! I noticed a mention in the earlier post about Bush River Baptist Church and their records. Does anyone know what years their records cover and where the records can be viewed? Thanks!Bill BlairDeland, FL * > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:32:32 -0500 > From: hhimrey@gmail.com > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., > SC 1771-1824 > > Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record > for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. > 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel > Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC > Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of > paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with > multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, > along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel > Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son > of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station > in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in > the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub > Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. > It's in the right general region, because the account was included in > Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, > Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same > return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That > Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' > Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married > Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they > were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather > Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and > Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in > Laurens Co). > > There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a > Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions > for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very > many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name > connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. > > Harriet Imrey > > On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: > > Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be > a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He > belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is > listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina > Williams Swyers > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/21/2011 05:42:58
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824
    2. Tina & Bill Swyers
    3. Hi Harriet: Good to hear from you again. Sure looks like a dead end for any info on our Daniel Williams. Thanks for answering my questions. Tina -----Original Message----- From: Harriet Imrey Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 6:44 PM To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 The fastest way to get the A.A. number (for ordering records from SCDAH) is to use their online search engine at www.archivesindex.sc.gov. Just enter the name of the person as Lastname, Firstname, check the Soundex option (because spellings could be practically anything), and specify years 1775 to 1785. That will catch all the service records with their Accounts Audited numbers. The numbers for the Stub Indents are not included, and are not fully-indexed anywhere. Many of them are noted in Bobby Gilmer Moss, Roster of South Carolina Patriots in the American Revolution. That's the most comprehensive of the reference books for SC military service, but does not include accounts for the provision of supplies. It also includes some material from secondary sources that occasionally turn out to be inaccurate. If you order a copy of an A.A. file, it will include all of the Stub Indent records...although don't count on their being legible or containing much helpful information. An indent signed by "Capt. Smith" won't pinpoint a specific ancestor, unless you already know the locations of all of the Capt. Smiths in Revolutionary SC, and know that your ancestor served with that Capt. Smith. Some of the material covered in the Moss book is online as a Google Book. Since it's copyrighted, not all of it is accessible that way. I have a copy of the book, and can look up a name-and-number, but the online information is the best way to get to a file number for an individual. Harriet On 9/20/2011 6:23 PM, Margie Puckett Barton wrote: > Harriet, I have a Revolutionary relative and would like to know if I can > find the same type of information on him like you referenced on Daniel > Williams ex. A.A.8541 and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). > Thank you, > Margie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harriet Imrey > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:32 PM > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., > SC 1771-1824 > > Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record > for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. > 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel > Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC > Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of > paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with > multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, > along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel > Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son > of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station > in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in > the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub > Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. > It's in the right general region, because the account was included in > Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, > Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same > return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That > Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' > Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married > Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they > were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather > Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and > Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in > Laurens Co). > > There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a > Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions > for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very > many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name > connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. > > Harriet Imrey > > On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina& Bill Swyers wrote: > > Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be > a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He > belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is > listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina > Williams Swyers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/21/2011 04:02:05
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824
    2. Margie Puckett Barton
    3. Harriet, I have a Revolutionary relative and would like to know if I can find the same type of information on him like you referenced on Daniel Williams ex. A.A.8541 and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). Thank you, Margie -----Original Message----- From: Harriet Imrey Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:32 PM To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. It's in the right general region, because the account was included in Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in Laurens Co). There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. Harriet Imrey On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina Williams Swyers ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/20/2011 01:23:14
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824
    2. Harriet Imrey
    3. The fastest way to get the A.A. number (for ordering records from SCDAH) is to use their online search engine at www.archivesindex.sc.gov. Just enter the name of the person as Lastname, Firstname, check the Soundex option (because spellings could be practically anything), and specify years 1775 to 1785. That will catch all the service records with their Accounts Audited numbers. The numbers for the Stub Indents are not included, and are not fully-indexed anywhere. Many of them are noted in Bobby Gilmer Moss, Roster of South Carolina Patriots in the American Revolution. That's the most comprehensive of the reference books for SC military service, but does not include accounts for the provision of supplies. It also includes some material from secondary sources that occasionally turn out to be inaccurate. If you order a copy of an A.A. file, it will include all of the Stub Indent records...although don't count on their being legible or containing much helpful information. An indent signed by "Capt. Smith" won't pinpoint a specific ancestor, unless you already know the locations of all of the Capt. Smiths in Revolutionary SC, and know that your ancestor served with that Capt. Smith. Some of the material covered in the Moss book is online as a Google Book. Since it's copyrighted, not all of it is accessible that way. I have a copy of the book, and can look up a name-and-number, but the online information is the best way to get to a file number for an individual. Harriet On 9/20/2011 6:23 PM, Margie Puckett Barton wrote: > Harriet, I have a Revolutionary relative and would like to know if I can > find the same type of information on him like you referenced on Daniel > Williams ex. A.A.8541 and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). > Thank you, > Margie > > -----Original Message----- > From: Harriet Imrey > Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 5:32 PM > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., > SC 1771-1824 > > Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record > for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. > 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel > Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC > Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of > paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with > multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, > along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel > Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son > of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station > in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in > the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub > Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. > It's in the right general region, because the account was included in > Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, > Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same > return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That > Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' > Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married > Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they > were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather > Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and > Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in > Laurens Co). > > There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a > Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions > for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very > many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name > connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. > > Harriet Imrey > > On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina& Bill Swyers wrote: > > Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be > a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He > belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is > listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina > Williams Swyers

    09/20/2011 12:44:21
    1. [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Baptist Church records
    2. Bill Blair
    3. Greetings to all! I noticed a mention in the earlier post about Bush River Baptist Church and their records. Does anyone know what years their records cover and where the records can be viewed? Thanks!Bill BlairDeland, FL * > Date: Tue, 20 Sep 2011 16:32:32 -0500 > From: hhimrey@gmail.com > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824 > > Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record > for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. > 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel > Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC > Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of > paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with > multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, > along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel > Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son > of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station > in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in > the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub > Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. > It's in the right general region, because the account was included in > Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, > Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same > return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That > Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' > Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married > Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they > were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather > Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and > Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in > Laurens Co). > > There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a > Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions > for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very > many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name > connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. > > Harriet Imrey > > On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: > > Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be > a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He > belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is > listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina > Williams Swyers > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/20/2011 11:37:49
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824
    2. Harriet Imrey
    3. Hi, Tina. The problem is not in locating a Revolutionary account record for Daniel Williams: all those are together in Accounts Audited (A.A. 8541) and Stub Indents (X689 and U397). The big problem is which Daniel Williams they were talking about. When the filing system for SC Revolutionary records was set up after the Civil War, every piece of paper with a given name on it was placed in a single file. One man with multiple spellings could appear in a different file for each spelling, along with all the other men whose spellings intersected. The Daniel Williams file, A.A. 8541, includes records that pertain to Daniel, son of Col. James Williams of Hanover Co VA, and his death at Hayes' Station in 1781. It also includes records for the Daniel Williams who was in the Cheraws District militia under Col. Lemuel Benton. One of the Stub Indents, U397, was for £4.5.8 1/2 as reimbursement for lost property. It's in the right general region, because the account was included in Anderson's Return, [Col. Levi] Casey's [Little River] Regiment, Ninety-Six Brigade. But the other Williams men included on the same return were Joseph, Joshua and Barwick [AKA Baruch] Williams. That Joseph was also a son of Col. James Williams, and also killed at Hayes' Station. Barwick/Baruch Williams was one of the bunch who married Ducketts, Odells, and Prathers, in both MD and SC. I don't know if they were close enough to claim kin with Daniel and Cassandra Prather Williams. Besides Daniel, son of Col. James, Daniel Williams (Sr. and Jr.) from Granville Co NC also lived in the same region (Reedy River in Laurens Co). There would be little benefit in tracking down a record that said that a Daniel Williams (somewhere in SC) had provided services or provisions for some militia company (generally unidentified). There were so very many of them that it would be sheer chance to run across a familiar name connected with one specific Daniel rather than all the others. Harriet Imrey On 9/20/2011 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina Williams Swyers

    09/20/2011 10:32:32
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824
    2. Becky and John
    3. Hi Tina, I am sorry that I cannot help with your 4g-grandfather Daniel Williams, however, I would like to learn more about the Bush River Baptist Church records (I am not familiar with that church). I had some non-Quaker relatives who lived in Union Co. and would like to know if they perhaps belonged to that church. Thanks, John Hollingsworth On Tue, Sep 20, 2011 at 9:24 AM, Tina & Bill Swyers wrote: > Hi: > I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams > who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War > records. > I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be a > listing. > He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He belonged to > the > Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is listed in those > records. > Any other suggestions of where to look? > Tina Williams Swyers > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/20/2011 09:48:07
    1. [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Testing - No Messages from this list
    2. I haven't seen a message from this mail list in a couple months. Is it still up and running? I haven't changed emails. Just checking! Debi Ham

    09/20/2011 07:26:10
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Militia in SC
    2. Carroll Rollins
    3. Have you ran across any by the name of BATSON .....that is my ancestors name -----Original Message----- From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of marsha moses Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 10:02 AM To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Militia in SC It is still up and running, Debi. I have been spending most of my "research" time lately working on the Revolution in the south. If you remember, our mutual George McKinsey is proven to have spent time in the SC militia which would make him a loyalist in this time period. I had Quakers not related to George who were trying to sit out the war in NC.....and a 6-gr-grandfather who may have fought on the patriot side from Wrightsboro, GA.....not to mention several who fought in the south who were from the Shenandoah Valley and from Pittsylvania County, VA....then I had the appalachia ancestors who fought at the Battle of Point Pleasant and at least one who rallied to fight at Kings Mountain. Those are just the men who pop into my mind quickly. Ten years ago I was totally interested in the Civil War and couldn't imagine who would be interested in the Revolution....but that was before I discovered the Revolution in the south! It was our first Civil War. Great to hear from y! ou. marsha On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:26 AM, debiham@comcast.net wrote: > I haven't seen a message from this mail list in a couple months. Is it still up and running? I haven't changed emails. > > Just checking! > > Debi Ham > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/20/2011 04:26:46
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Testing - No Messages from this list
    2. Carroll Rollins
    3. As far as I kmnow it is -----Original Message----- From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of debiham@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, September 20, 2011 9:26 AM To: BushRiver, South Carolina Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Testing - No Messages from this list I haven't seen a message from this mail list in a couple months. Is it still up and running? I haven't changed emails. Just checking! Debi Ham ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/20/2011 04:06:30
    1. [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Militia in SC
    2. marsha moses
    3. It is still up and running, Debi. I have been spending most of my "research" time lately working on the Revolution in the south. If you remember, our mutual George McKinsey is proven to have spent time in the SC militia which would make him a loyalist in this time period. I had Quakers not related to George who were trying to sit out the war in NC.....and a 6-gr-grandfather who may have fought on the patriot side from Wrightsboro, GA.....not to mention several who fought in the south who were from the Shenandoah Valley and from Pittsylvania County, VA....then I had the appalachia ancestors who fought at the Battle of Point Pleasant and at least one who rallied to fight at Kings Mountain. Those are just the men who pop into my mind quickly. Ten years ago I was totally interested in the Civil War and couldn't imagine who would be interested in the Revolution....but that was before I discovered the Revolution in the south! It was our first Civil War. Great to hear from y! ou. marsha On Sep 20, 2011, at 9:26 AM, debiham@comcast.net wrote: > I haven't seen a message from this mail list in a couple months. Is it still up and running? I haven't changed emails. > > Just checking! > > Debi Ham >

    09/20/2011 04:02:29
    1. [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Daniel Williams Living in Newberry Co., SC 1771-1824
    2. Tina & Bill Swyers
    3. Hi: I cannot find any record of my GGGG Grandfather Daniel Williams who was married to Cassandra Prather Williams during the Rev. War records. I have been told that he gave supplies and that there should be a listing. He lived on Bush River and Williams Beaver Dam Creek. He belonged to the Bush River Baptist Church and he and his family is listed in those records. Any other suggestions of where to look? Tina Williams Swyers

    09/20/2011 03:24:10
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Hathi/Trust Quaker collection
    2. Judith F. Russell
    3. Thank you, Ron, for the information about this great online resource! ----- Original Message ----- From: "sanini" <sanini@mindspring.com> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 10:40 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Hathi/Trust Quaker collection > Judy - > > Are we aware of this website collection on Quakers (mainly British) ? > > http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/mb?a=listis;c=1555782195 > > - Ron Fleming > > > On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Judith F. Russell wrote: > >> new member...see her interests, below >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: caryntex@aol.com >> To: quakers.bush.river@gmail.com >> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 5:48 PM >> Subject: joining the email list >> >> >> Hello List Administrator! >> >> I would like to join the email group. >> >> Caryn Simpson Buchhorn >> caryntex@aol.com >> >> Researching Hollingsworth, Chandler, Bailey, Smith, Simpson, >> Blitch, Taylor, Wilson mainly in GA, SC, NC. >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC- >> BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/07/2011 06:31:30
    1. [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Hathi/Trust Quaker collection
    2. sanini
    3. Judy - Are we aware of this website collection on Quakers (mainly British) ? http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/mb?a=listis;c=1555782195 - Ron Fleming On Aug 5, 2011, at 6:33 PM, Judith F. Russell wrote: > new member...see her interests, below > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: caryntex@aol.com > To: quakers.bush.river@gmail.com > Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 5:48 PM > Subject: joining the email list > > > Hello List Administrator! > > I would like to join the email group. > > Caryn Simpson Buchhorn > caryntex@aol.com > > Researching Hollingsworth, Chandler, Bailey, Smith, Simpson, > Blitch, Taylor, Wilson mainly in GA, SC, NC. > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC- > BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/06/2011 04:40:11
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Quakers from Delaware or New Jersey?
    2. Anne: I have the Bortons, Austins, Haines families etc. from Burlington. Burnis Argo In a message dated 8/5/2011 6:24:22 P.M. Central Daylight Time, jrussell2@charter.net writes: Hi Anne! All us "Gauntts" have Burlington connections. I even joined "Founders of New Jersey" based upon that line. JudyR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Crocker" <jacrocker@windstream.net> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:19 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Quakers from Delaware or New Jersey? >I just returned from research in Delaware and New Jersey. Does anyone > have connections to the Salem or Burlington area Quakers or to > Delaware groups? > > Anne Crocker > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2011 01:32:26
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Quakers from Delaware or New Jersey?
    2. Judith F. Russell
    3. Hi Anne! All us "Gauntts" have Burlington connections. I even joined "Founders of New Jersey" based upon that line. JudyR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Crocker" <jacrocker@windstream.net> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:19 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Quakers from Delaware or New Jersey? >I just returned from research in Delaware and New Jersey. Does anyone > have connections to the Salem or Burlington area Quakers or to > Delaware groups? > > Anne Crocker > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/05/2011 01:22:15
    1. [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Quakers from Delaware or New Jersey?
    2. Anne Crocker
    3. I just returned from research in Delaware and New Jersey. Does anyone have connections to the Salem or Burlington area Quakers or to Delaware groups? Anne Crocker

    08/05/2011 01:19:30
    1. [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] new member
    2. Judith F. Russell
    3. new member...see her interests, below ----- Original Message ----- From: caryntex@aol.com To: quakers.bush.river@gmail.com Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 5:48 PM Subject: joining the email list Hello List Administrator! I would like to join the email group. Caryn Simpson Buchhorn caryntex@aol.com Researching Hollingsworth, Chandler, Bailey, Smith, Simpson, Blitch, Taylor, Wilson mainly in GA, SC, NC.

    08/05/2011 12:33:55
    1. [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Johnston (PA > SC > TN (Greene>Chattanooga area)??
    2. marsha moses
    3. > This was on my Scotch Irish mail list this morning. I am just sending it along in case someone has an interest in some of the non-Quaker names in the area around Newberry. Marsha > > > Hi folks, is anyone researching a Johnston clan who infest the Chattanooga region of Tennessee? They came there by way of Greene County and before that Newberry, South Carolina. Before, mid 1700s, they were near Harrisburg, Pennsylvania. A correspondent of mine is about to publish a book on them. She has an old Bible and other sources that identify their place of origin: Fermanagh, including a copy of the letter John Johnston was given indicating he was a member in good faith of a congregation there . > > Much is in Ancestry in a public family tree. This MIGHT take you to a page that displays info > http://trees.ancestry.com/tree/16983156/person/445495889 . He was a member of Augharluchar Congregation in Jan of 1734. This is John Johnston. John married Mary Dougan (dau Thomas Dougan). They died in Newberry, South Carolina, where their tombstones are still visible. > > HUGE number of surnames in this family tree. > > Anyway, I mention it here because their origin is known: Fermanagh. Probably the Dougans are from nearby. > > This family intermarried with the Colliers repeatedly. > > It's worth checking for your surnames in the tree. If anyone is researching what seems to be this Johnston clan I can connect you with the author. > > Linda Merle >

    07/08/2011 02:38:37