my heart is gladened to see this. Robert Cooper ________________________________ From: Judith F. Russell <jrussell2@charter.net> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Cc: SMITH-SC-L@rootsweb.com; smithwrightstownpa@yahoogroups.com; SCUNION-L@rootsweb.com; quaker-roots@rootsweb.com; hollingsworth@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 10:53 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Families of Padgett's Creek Quaker Meeting, Union SC (ca. 1760 - 1810) Below is the listing of Padgett's Creek Families that I have so far. I also included the references I 've found in Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of Quaker families. Additions and corrections are welcome! If you would like to submit a short paragraph *with references,* about any of these families (members, where from, where to, etc.), I would be very glad to include your paragraph with attribution in the 2012 Padgett's Creek Report and your references in the bibliography of sources. I would not trust myself to know which online info is correct, so please contribute if you'd like to have a bit about your family/families or research interests included. Addington, Clark/Clerk, John Cook, Cooper, Samuel Cooper, Jacob Cooper, Nathan Dodd, John Dodd, William Edmundson, Isaac Fincher, Jesse Gist, Hibbs, Hooker, Edward Hunt, Mary (now Pots) Lamb, William Lamb, Longshore Neaderman, Pearson, Enoch, son of John Pearson, Lawrence Pearson, Mealin Smith, David Smith, David Jr. Smith, Hannah STB Hibbs, wife of David Sr. Smith, William, s Ralph Smith, Aaron, s Ralph Smith, Rachel, d Ralph Smith, Zopher, s Ralph Smith, Ralph, s david Townsend, James, son of John Townsend, John Jr. Townsend, William, son of John *From Cane Creek Monthly Meeting Notes John Clerk d. 10-18- 1796 bur Pagets Creek (Hinshaw vol 1, p 1055, original record p 36) {Additional Notes Rebecca Fincher is said to be buried in Padgett's Creek and there is a R.F. there, inscribed 1798. Cane Creek lists Rebecca Fincher d. 10-31-1797, but with no burial note. (Hinshaw vol 1, p 1056, original record p 48) John Clark’s will mentions: Elizabeth Clark, Henry Clark, Hester Clark, John Clark, Jonathan Clark, Mary Clark, Rachel Clark, Rebekah Clark, Thomas Clark, William Morgan, Lawrence Pearson, Isham Prince, Charles Emanual Thiall, Henry Thickpenney, James Townshend, Bartholomew Wood. } *Bush River MM , Hinshaw Vol 1 3. John Clerk d. 10-18- 1796 bur Pagets Creek (Hinshaw vol 1, p 1055, original record p 36) Cooper 1778, 6, 27. Jacob of Padget Creek, dis. 1781, 1, 27. Samuel, of Padget’s Creek, dis. 1785, 9, 24. Nathan of Padget’s Creek, dis. Edmundson 1778, 2, 28. Isaac of Padet’s Creek, dis. Hunt 1784, 8, 28. Mary Pots (form Hund), of Padget’s Creek, dis mou. Lamb 1775, 3, 25. William of Padgit’s Crek, dis. 1779, 10, 30. Longshore, of Padget’s Creek, dis. Pearson 1778, 10, 31. Enoch, d John, of Padget Creek, dis. 1779, 11, 27. Mealin, s. John, of Padget Creek, dis Pots 1784, 8, 28. Mary (form Hunt), of Padget’s Creek, dis mou. Randal 1775, 10, 28. Joseph and ch. Sarah, Joseph, James, Isaac, Thomas, Ann and Hanna, of Padjets Creek, recrq. [received by request] Smith 1778, 2, 30. William, Aaron, and Rachel, ch. Ralph, Padget’s Creek, dis. 1778, 11, 30. Zopher, s Ralph, of Padget’s Creek, dis. 1783, 11, 29. David of Padget’s Creek, dis. 1783, 11, 29. Joseph [son of David, above] dis mou. 1784,4,24. David con his misconduct. [this is actually 5th month on the tape] Townsend 1782, 12, 28. John, Jr., of Padget’s Creek, dis. *Bush River MM mentions of Padgett’s Creek, errata and addedum to Vol I 1781, 1, 27. Samuel Cooper, of Padgett’s Creek, dis taking up arms and going out in a warlike manner. 1783, 1, 25. William and John Dodd dis bearing arms and going out in a warlike manner; paper ordered read at Pagets Creek Mtg. 1774, 3, 26. Jesse Fincher dis encouragement and fighting; paper ordered read at Padgets Creek 1777, 8, 30. Edward Hooker dis bearing arms; paper ordered read at Padgett’s Creek. 1778, 6, 27. Lawrence Pearson dis proposing to defend himself with war accouterments; paper ordered read at Paget’s Creek. 1778, 8, 29. Enoch Pearson, s. John, of Padget’s Creek, dis going out with the army in a warlike many. 1781, 1, 27. James and William Townsend, s John of Padget’s Creek, dis taking up arms and going out in a warlike manner. 1782, 12, 28. John Townsend, Jr. of Padget’s Creek, dis taking up arms and going out in a warlike manner. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Below is the listing of Padgett's Creek Families that I have so far. I also included the references I 've found in Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of Quaker families. Additions and corrections are welcome! If you would like to submit a short paragraph *with references,* about any of these families (members, where from, where to, etc.), I would be very glad to include your paragraph with attribution in the 2012 Padgett's Creek Report and your references in the bibliography of sources. I would not trust myself to know which online info is correct, so please contribute if you'd like to have a bit about your family/families or research interests included. Addington, Clark/Clerk, John Cook, Cooper, Samuel Cooper, Jacob Cooper, Nathan Dodd, John Dodd, William Edmundson, Isaac Fincher, Jesse Gist, Hibbs, Hooker, Edward Hunt, Mary (now Pots) Lamb, William Lamb, Longshore Neaderman, Pearson, Enoch, son of John Pearson, Lawrence Pearson, Mealin Smith, David Smith, David Jr. Smith, Hannah STB Hibbs, wife of David Sr. Smith, William, s Ralph Smith, Aaron, s Ralph Smith, Rachel, d Ralph Smith, Zopher, s Ralph Smith, Ralph, s david Townsend, James, son of John Townsend, John Jr. Townsend, William, son of John *From Cane Creek Monthly Meeting Notes John Clerk d. 10-18- 1796 bur Pagets Creek (Hinshaw vol 1, p 1055, original record p 36) {Additional Notes Rebecca Fincher is said to be buried in Padgett's Creek and there is a R.F. there, inscribed 1798. Cane Creek lists Rebecca Fincher d. 10-31-1797, but with no burial note. (Hinshaw vol 1, p 1056, original record p 48) John Clark’s will mentions: Elizabeth Clark, Henry Clark, Hester Clark, John Clark, Jonathan Clark, Mary Clark, Rachel Clark, Rebekah Clark, Thomas Clark, William Morgan, Lawrence Pearson, Isham Prince, Charles Emanual Thiall, Henry Thickpenney, James Townshend, Bartholomew Wood. } *Bush River MM , Hinshaw Vol 1 3. John Clerk d. 10-18- 1796 bur Pagets Creek (Hinshaw vol 1, p 1055, original record p 36) Cooper 1778, 6, 27. Jacob of Padget Creek, dis. 1781, 1, 27. Samuel, of Padget’s Creek, dis. 1785, 9, 24. Nathan of Padget’s Creek, dis. Edmundson 1778, 2, 28. Isaac of Padet’s Creek, dis. Hunt 1784, 8, 28. Mary Pots (form Hund), of Padget’s Creek, dis mou. Lamb 1775, 3, 25. William of Padgit’s Crek, dis. 1779, 10, 30. Longshore, of Padget’s Creek, dis. Pearson 1778, 10, 31. Enoch, d John, of Padget Creek, dis. 1779, 11, 27. Mealin, s. John, of Padget Creek, dis Pots 1784, 8, 28. Mary (form Hunt), of Padget’s Creek, dis mou. Randal 1775, 10, 28. Joseph and ch. Sarah, Joseph, James, Isaac, Thomas, Ann and Hanna, of Padjets Creek, recrq. [received by request] Smith 1778, 2, 30. William, Aaron, and Rachel, ch. Ralph, Padget’s Creek, dis. 1778, 11, 30. Zopher, s Ralph, of Padget’s Creek, dis. 1783, 11, 29. David of Padget’s Creek, dis. 1783, 11, 29. Joseph [son of David, above] dis mou. 1784,4,24. David con his misconduct. [this is actually 5th month on the tape] Townsend 1782, 12, 28. John, Jr., of Padget’s Creek, dis. *Bush River MM mentions of Padgett’s Creek, errata and addedum to Vol I 1781, 1, 27. Samuel Cooper, of Padgett’s Creek, dis taking up arms and going out in a warlike manner. 1783, 1, 25. William and John Dodd dis bearing arms and going out in a warlike manner; paper ordered read at Pagets Creek Mtg. 1774, 3, 26. Jesse Fincher dis encouragement and fighting; paper ordered read at Padgets Creek 1777, 8, 30. Edward Hooker dis bearing arms; paper ordered read at Padgett’s Creek. 1778, 6, 27. Lawrence Pearson dis proposing to defend himself with war accouterments; paper ordered read at Paget’s Creek. 1778, 8, 29. Enoch Pearson, s. John, of Padget’s Creek, dis going out with the army in a warlike many. 1781, 1, 27. James and William Townsend, s John of Padget’s Creek, dis taking up arms and going out in a warlike manner. 1782, 12, 28. John Townsend, Jr. of Padget’s Creek, dis taking up arms and going out in a warlike manner.
John Jones married Mary MNU in the region of Berks Co PA by 1740. They were not Quakers during the first decade of their marriage. They were received at Exeter MM (previously Oley MM) on 28 Jan 1751. Exeter Township was formed in Philadelphia Co PA, and became part of Berks Co PA at its creation in Oct 1751. On 26 Jul 1753, John and Mary Jones received a certificate from Exeter MM to Cane Creek MM in Orange Co NC; their certificate was received by Cane Creek on 6 Oct 1753. On 4 Feb 1769, the family was granted a certificate from Cane Creek MM to Fredericksburgh MM (Camden SC). They were residents of the Bush River community at the first meeting of Bush River MM on 4th month 1772, and then constituent members of Wrightsborough MM (St. Paul's Parish GA) when it was set off from Bush River MM on 4da 12mo 1774. Despite continuous membership in five different monthly meetings, there is no extant family record re the births of the Jones children. John Jones died at Wrightsborough MM on 9 Jun 1781; Mary Jones died there on 9 Oct 1802. The first record that definitely pertains to this couple was the christening of their third child, Phillipina Christina Jones, born May 1746, christened 31 Aug 1746 by the Rev. John Casper Stoever. The Rev. Stoever, of Lancaster Co PA, performed many marriages and baptisms at Lutheran congregations throughout southeastern PA and adjoining provinces. The Jones child was baptized at Atolhoe in then-Lancaster Co PA. The congregation became known as Altalaha, located in Rehrersburg in western Berks Co PA. Baptismal sponsors were Florian Bübinger (transcribed Burringer) and his wife Phillipina Christina. For Lutheran baptisms, the sponsor for whom the child was named was normally a close family connection, if not a close relative. Godmother Philipina Christina Mack was born 11 Aug 1707 in Schriesheim, Baden, daughter of Georg Conrad and Anna Margaretha Schwartz Mack. In 1729, Philipina Christina Mack accompanied her widowed mother Anna Margaretha on the ship Allen to Philadelphia. Most passengers were members of the Dunker (German Baptist Brethren) faith, started in 1708 by Alexander Mack, paternal uncle of Philipina Christina Mack. Alexander Mack and his three sons sailed on the same ship. All of the Macks settled in Lancaster Co. Anna Margaretha Schwartz Mack second-married Johannes Kitzmiller St. on 27 Oct 1730, and Philipina Christina Mack married Johannes Kitzmiller Jr. on 5 Jun 1731. Both weddings were performed by the Rev. John Casper Stoever at Earltown (Lancaster/Berks Co PA). Johannes and Philipina Christina Mack Kitzmiller had 6 children prior to his death in ~1745. Philipina Christina Mack Kitzmiller second-married Florian Bübinger on 4 Aug 1745 at Tulpehocken (near Womelsdorf PA), marriage performed by the Rev. John Casper Stoever. Florian Bübinger, b. ~1716, arrived in PA in 1738; he apparently had no family in PA. All of the Mack, Kitzmiller and Bübinger references place them in the northeastern quadrant of Lancaster Co that became western Berks Co in 1751. This is the region where John Jones would have become close enough to Philipina Christina Mack Kitzmiller Bübinger to name a child after her, and ask her to be the godmother. John Jones may possibly have had a German-born wife prior to marrying Mary by 1751. Nothing in the evidence requires two wives, although a span of more than 20 years for births of children can suggest that. At any rate, John and/or Mary lived in a predominantly-German community and "probably" had some connections with the Mack family. Historians of the Richard Gregory (1690-1765) family of Oley and Hereford Townships, Philadelphia/Berks Co PA, believe that his oldest daughter Mary Gregory (b. ~1720) married this particular John Jones. Richard Gregory's 1765 Berks Co PA will named his 15 children in birth order for boys, then girls. He was survived by wife Margretha, and his youngest children could read German but not English. His oldest daughter Mary was the wife of a John Jones in 1765; his second daughter Elizabeth was the wife of a George Mack. Margaretha Gregory, 5th daughter (of 8), was baptized in 1730 at New Goshenhoppen (Philadelphia/Berks Co PA) by the Rev. John Casper Stoever. At least five of the Gregory children relocated to Orange Co NC in the 1760's, and three of those continued south to Edgefield Co SC after the Revolution. These various coincidences (residence in same region, association with the German community, baptisms by same pastor, connection to Mack family, and the name Richard for the oldest Jones child) do not guarantee that the John Jones who married Mary Gregory was the same one who became a Quaker in 1751, but they tend to support the Gregory family's conclusions about the identity. The 1781 St. Paul's Parish will of John Jones lists his children in birth order. The 1746 birth of the third child, dates of marriage for the daughters, and the minor status of the two youngest sons as of 1781 provide enough information to approximate the dates and locations of birth for the 9 Jones children. Will of John Jones, Columbia Co GA Will Book No. 1, pp. 78-79: In the name of God, Amen I, John Jones of Wrightsborough Township in the Parish of St. Paul in the Province of Georgia, being sick and weak of body, but of sound and disposing mind and memory praise be given to God, for the same, and considering the uncertainty of this life and being willing to settle my natural affairs in due time, do make, ordain, constitute and appoint this to be my last will and testament in manner and form following: IMPRIMIS, I give and bequeath unto my oldest son Richard Jones twenty shillings sterling to be paid in one year after my decease. Item: I give and bequeath unto my daughter Ann Brown ten shillings sterling to be paid in one year after my decease. Item: I give and bequeath unto my daughter, Philipina Stanfield five shillings sterling. Item: I give and bequeath unto my daughter Margaret Day, five shillings sterling. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son James Jones five shillings sterling, and apprehending him to be Weak in his sense and not capable to manage the affairs of life to advantage, do therefore will and direct my two sons Jonathan Jones and Nathan Jones, to take due and proper care of him, my son James Jones, and supply him with food and raiment he may have real occasion for the necessary support of life out of the lands and estate herein-after bequeathed to them, all the time he can be prevailed upon to dwell with the or either of the. Item: I give and bequeath unto my son John Jones five shillings sterling. Item: I give and bequeath unto my daughter, Mary Anglin, five shillings sterling. Item: It is my will that my two sons, Jonathan Jones and Nathan Jones, their heirs and assigns forever all my plantation tract and parcel of land whereon I now dwell containing in whole four hundred acres, being in two surveys to be equally divided between them in goodness and quality share and share alike reserving the house and plantation and improvements for my loving wife Mary, to dwell on during her natural life only. I also do give and bequeath unto my above named sons Jonathan and Nathan Jones all my write [sic] and claim to one other tract containing one hundred acres of land situated in the Parish aforesaid adjoining the above mentioned tract is to be equally divided as directed in the other tract, share and share alike and it is my will also that they, my two sons Jonathan and Nathan Jones, doe in consideration of all said lands not bequeathed to them their heirs and assigns take due and proper care of my son James Jones while he can be prevailed upon to dwell with them as above directed, also my will is that if either of my two sons Jonathan and Nathan Jones should die before he arrived at lawful age then the survivors of them shall have possession and enjoy all the above mentioned plantations, tracts or parcels of land. Item: All the residue and remainder of my estate of whatever kind, quality, nature, or condition so ever, I give and bequeath to my loving wife Mary to her, her heirs and assigns forever. Item: I hereby authorize and impower my executor and executrix hereinafter named on receipt of money due for the same to make over, convey, assure and confirm with John Coates his heirs and assigns all that plantation, tract and parcel of land situate at or near Bush River in South Carolina by a deed or deeds good and valid in law. Lastly: I nominate constitute and appoint my loving friend Daniel Williams executor and my loving wife Mary executrix of this my last will and testament hereby ratifying and confirming the same. In witness whereof I have hereunto set my hand and seal this 13th day of the 1st month one thousand seven hundred and eighty-one. John Jones Signed, sealed, and acknowledged by the testament in the presence of John Stubbs Nathaniel Jackson Susanna Butler Personally appeared John Stubbs who being duly qualified affirmeth that he was personally present, and saw John Jones, deceased, sign, seal and declare the above to be his last will and testament and that he was of sound mind and memory, to the best of his knowledge and belief, and that he signed his name as witness to the sd will at the request and in the presence of the Testator and in the presence of Nathaniel Jackson and Susanna Butler the other subscribing witness. John Stubbs Testified before me the tenth day of October, in the year of our Lord, 1790 Lewis Gardner, J.P. Bush River properties of John Jones: Petitions for Land from the South Carolina Council Journals, Meeting of Tuesday 3 July 1770: John Jones 200 [acres] Berkley County [ " = surveyed for] James Hoge The 200 acres surveyed for James Hoge on 28 Jul 1762 was "in the fork between Broad and Saludy rivers and is situate Lying and being on a branch of Saludy river Called and known by the name of Bush Creek and is bounded Southeast on Land laid out to Jacob Brooks and on the other sides on vacant Land". Hoge apparently left the region without having his grant certified, so the plat was available to John Jones. Grant: 13 Jul 1770, John Jones, 200 acres in Berkley County Memorial: 21 Aug 1770, John Jones, 200 acres in Berkley County adj. Jacob Brooks Disposition of property: Newberry Co SC Deed Book A, 424-494: Lease and release. 8 & 9 March 1771, John Jones of Berkley County, SC, planter, and Mary his wife, to Moses Embree of same, weaver, for 15 shillings, 200 acres in the fork of Broad & Saludy River, adj. Jacob Brooks, granted to John Jones 13 July 1770, grant recorded in Book FFF, page 6. John Jones (Seal), Mary Jones (X) (Seal), Wit: Enos Ellimon, John Duncan (mark), John Jones Jun'r. Proved by the oath of John Duncan 12 July 1771 before John Caldwell, J.P. for Craven County. SC Deed Book G-4, 55-59: Lease & release. 7 & 8 Jan 1772, Giles Chapman & Sarah his wife of Craven County, for £300 SC money, to John Jones of same, by grant 16 Dec 1766 to Giles Chapman Senr., 300 acres on Scotch Creek in the fork between Broad and Saluday [Saluda] River, at the time of surveying called Berkley County but now Craven County, adj. Laurance Ryley, John Brooks. (Plat included, being 193 acres granted by Giles Chapman to Elizabeth Teague near Rileys corner). Giles Chapman (LS), Sarah Chapman (I) (LS), Wit: Eliza Teague, Joseph Brown, Giles Chapman Junr. Proved in Craven County before Thos Wadlington, J.P., by the oath of Eliza Teague, 2 Feb 1772. Recorded 2 Sept. 1773. Disposition of property: Newberry Co SC Deed Book C, 897-898: 7 Oct 1796, John Coate of Newberry county for £10 sterling to Rosanah Russell of same, 200 acres, part of 300 acres granted to Giles Chapman and conveyed by Chapman to John Jones. John Coate (seal), Wit: Fred Nance J.P., J.R. Brown, J.N.C. Susanah Coate, wife of John Coate, relinquished dower 7 Oct 1796 before J.R. Brown, J.N.C. Recorded 7 Nov 1796. [The transfer of title from the estate of John Jones to John Coate, as referenced in the 1781 will, was not recorded in Newberry Co, but the subsequent sale of the land by Coate was recorded.] Harriet Imrey
Friends: PLEASE USE CAUTION if you plan on visiting any of the old South Carolina Cemeteries!! I believe that turkey season starts April 1 and others follow. If you are unsure about shooting days, check online with Department of Natural Resources (or the SC equivalent) to learn which days it is safe to walk in the National Forest, which surrounds many of the burial grounds. Thank you, Judy Russell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cooper" <henspert@yahoo.com> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DRAFT map of Padgett's Creek...and more Hello Everyone, I have looked at this preliminary map several times and have shown it to a few people, I am uncertain though where it would be on an actual map. I am aware of the Bush River site but there are multiple sites targeted for restoration. Is there a map, pdf or picture with targeted sites identified for an overview? If not then maybe the location of the Pagett's Creek site. I would like to look at it on Google maps and also ther relations or distance of sites on Google maps. I am very excited over the work being done here! Robert Henspert Cooper "Little Robert" ________________________________ From: Judith F. Russell <jrussell2@charter.net> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:37 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DRAFT map of Padgett's Creek...and more > Good morning, all: > > You will find a draft mapping of the identifiable tombstones at Padgett's > Creek Quaker Cemetery, Union County SC, at this link: > http://askgrannyus.posterous.com/draft-map-of-padgetts-creek-with-my-identifie > > This is the surveyor's map with my *preliminary* notes on it. The > transcription of the tombstones is still a work-in-progress, so we welcome > input about the people and families of the Padgett's Creek area. > > We are putting together a report with timeline for the land tenure, > bibliography, photos, tombstone transcriptions, and other details. I > would *very greatly* appreciate any bibliographic citations (especially > with the scanned items!!) or other photos you have. > > Possibly we could also compile a list of families. I've seen bits and > pieces, but never, I don't think, an attempt at a complete listing. I'd > welcome your input there, too. > > What I'd like to do is have everything we can find about Padgett's Creek > in one report for future researchers. > > Thank you! > > Judy Russell > Family lines at Padgett's Creek: Smith, Hibbs, Pearson > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
The earlier report on Padgett's Creek at the map coordinates, but try this in maps.google.com and you should see the map and the "street scene" with the gate to the dirt road to the Cemetery: 1940 Old Buncomb road, Sedalia, Union Co SC It can also be found on the online Nat Geologic Survey maps of Union Co., I think. Also, a DRAFT version of the report, with our current best attempts at matching tombstones with photos and inscriptions is at: http://askgrannyus.posterous.com/padgetts-creek-powerpoint ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cooper" <henspert@yahoo.com> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DRAFT map of Padgett's Creek...and more Hello Everyone, I have looked at this preliminary map several times and have shown it to a few people, I am uncertain though where it would be on an actual map. I am aware of the Bush River site but there are multiple sites targeted for restoration. Is there a map, pdf or picture with targeted sites identified for an overview? If not then maybe the location of the Pagett's Creek site. I would like to look at it on Google maps and also ther relations or distance of sites on Google maps. I am very excited over the work being done here! Robert Henspert Cooper "Little Robert" ________________________________ From: Judith F. Russell <jrussell2@charter.net> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:37 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DRAFT map of Padgett's Creek...and more > Good morning, all: > > You will find a draft mapping of the identifiable tombstones at Padgett's > Creek Quaker Cemetery, Union County SC, at this link: > http://askgrannyus.posterous.com/draft-map-of-padgetts-creek-with-my-identifie > > This is the surveyor's map with my *preliminary* notes on it. The > transcription of the tombstones is still a work-in-progress, so we welcome > input about the people and families of the Padgett's Creek area. > > We are putting together a report with timeline for the land tenure, > bibliography, photos, tombstone transcriptions, and other details. I > would *very greatly* appreciate any bibliographic citations (especially > with the scanned items!!) or other photos you have. > > Possibly we could also compile a list of families. I've seen bits and > pieces, but never, I don't think, an attempt at a complete listing. I'd > welcome your input there, too. > > What I'd like to do is have everything we can find about Padgett's Creek > in one report for future researchers. > > Thank you! > > Judy Russell > Family lines at Padgett's Creek: Smith, Hibbs, Pearson > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
And, keep a close eye out for snakes, especially rattlesnakes. Rattlers are just coming out of their hibernation and are very cranky. Always carry a long stick and use it to beat ahead of you in thick brush. Snakes are shy and will crawl away from you if alerted, but will strike if cornered or suddenly surprised. Never kill a snake, unless bitten, especially non-poisonous ones, because they keep the mouse and rat population under control. If bitten, try to kill the snake to take with you for identification (non-poisonous ones will also bite) at a medical facility. If bitten, never panic and run because your blood flows faster and the venom works more quickly. It's also wise to take a snake bite kit with you, especially if you are far from help.. ************ I Support The Chester District Genealogical Society Richburg, S.C. http://www.compact2.net/chestergenealogical/index.asp ________________________________ From: Judith F. Russell <jrussell2@charter.net> To: Robert Cooper <henspert@yahoo.com>; sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 7:50 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Padgett's Creek...a warning about turkey and deer season Friends: PLEASE USE CAUTION if you plan on visiting any of the old South Carolina Cemeteries!! I believe that turkey season starts April 1 and others follow. If you are unsure about shooting days, check online with Department of Natural Resources (or the SC equivalent) to learn which days it is safe to walk in the National Forest, which surrounds many of the burial grounds. Thank you, Judy Russell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Cooper" <henspert@yahoo.com> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 23, 2012 2:48 AM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DRAFT map of Padgett's Creek...and more Hello Everyone, I have looked at this preliminary map several times and have shown it to a few people, I am uncertain though where it would be on an actual map. I am aware of the Bush River site but there are multiple sites targeted for restoration. Is there a map, pdf or picture with targeted sites identified for an overview? If not then maybe the location of the Pagett's Creek site. I would like to look at it on Google maps and also ther relations or distance of sites on Google maps. I am very excited over the work being done here! Robert Henspert Cooper "Little Robert" ________________________________ From: Judith F. Russell <jrussell2@charter.net> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:37 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DRAFT map of Padgett's Creek...and more > Good morning, all: > > You will find a draft mapping of the identifiable tombstones at Padgett's > Creek Quaker Cemetery, Union County SC, at this link: > http://askgrannyus.posterous.com/draft-map-of-padgetts-creek-with-my-identifie > > This is the surveyor's map with my *preliminary* notes on it. The > transcription of the tombstones is still a work-in-progress, so we welcome > input about the people and families of the Padgett's Creek area. > > We are putting together a report with timeline for the land tenure, > bibliography, photos, tombstone transcriptions, and other details. I > would *very greatly* appreciate any bibliographic citations (especially > with the scanned items!!) or other photos you have. > > Possibly we could also compile a list of families. I've seen bits and > pieces, but never, I don't think, an attempt at a complete listing. I'd > welcome your input there, too. > > What I'd like to do is have everything we can find about Padgett's Creek > in one report for future researchers. > > Thank you! > > Judy Russell > Family lines at Padgett's Creek: Smith, Hibbs, Pearson > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hello Everyone, I have looked at this preliminary map several times and have shown it to a few people, I am uncertain though where it would be on an actual map. I am aware of the Bush River site but there are multiple sites targeted for restoration. Is there a map, pdf or picture with targeted sites identified for an overview? If not then maybe the location of the Pagett's Creek site. I would like to look at it on Google maps and also ther relations or distance of sites on Google maps. I am very excited over the work being done here! Robert Henspert Cooper "Little Robert" ________________________________ From: Judith F. Russell <jrussell2@charter.net> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:37 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DRAFT map of Padgett's Creek...and more > Good morning, all: > > You will find a draft mapping of the identifiable tombstones at Padgett's > Creek Quaker Cemetery, Union County SC, at this link: > http://askgrannyus.posterous.com/draft-map-of-padgetts-creek-with-my-identifie > > This is the surveyor's map with my *preliminary* notes on it. The > transcription of the tombstones is still a work-in-progress, so we welcome > input about the people and families of the Padgett's Creek area. > > We are putting together a report with timeline for the land tenure, > bibliography, photos, tombstone transcriptions, and other details. I > would *very greatly* appreciate any bibliographic citations (especially > with the scanned items!!) or other photos you have. > > Possibly we could also compile a list of families. I've seen bits and > pieces, but never, I don't think, an attempt at a complete listing. I'd > welcome your input there, too. > > What I'd like to do is have everything we can find about Padgett's Creek > in one report for future researchers. > > Thank you! > > Judy Russell > Family lines at Padgett's Creek: Smith, Hibbs, Pearson > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Love the editorial commentary! Sent from my iPhone On Mar 21, 2012, at 10:34 PM, Bob <bobhist@yahoo.com> wrote: > Be careful of what you read in the Woodmason book.. He was an egotistical maniac, an Angelican priest (Church of England) and was critical of any other religion. During his time travels in the S.C. Backcountry, there were no Church of England (Episcopal) churches, so, in his opinion, all others were sinners. He even considered any marriage outside of the COE as illegal, thus the children of those were illegitimate, though he used harsher words, . > > > > > ************ > I Support > The Chester District Genealogical Society > > Richburg, S.C. > > http://www.compact2.net/chestergenealogical/index.asp > > > ________________________________ > From: "kathquilt@aol.com" <kathquilt@aol.com> > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:13 PM > Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Religion in the Backcountry > > There is a fascinating book about religion in the back country of South (and North) Carolina in the decade or so before the Revolutionary War. It is a compilation of sermons, letters and other writings of an Anglican priest, who was a former plantation and slave owner, merchant, elected official, etc. who then became a priest and set out to serve those outside of Charleston, SC as an itinerant minister, going 3000 + miles a year. Speaks of Presbyterians, Baptists, Quakers as well as Anglicans. Wonderful descriptions of life on the frontier. Full of his English, educated, loyalist, political and Anglican sentiments! Talks about Saxe Gotha, 96 District, the uncertain border between North and South Carolina and other places that are frequently mentioned in the Bush River list correspondence, and mentions quite a few people, both ministers and various church members. Lots of documentation. > > > The Carolina Backcountry on the Eve of the Revolution. By Charles Woodmason . Edited and with an Introduction by Richard Hooker. ISBN # 0-8078-4035-1 > > > Published in 1953 by the University of North Carolina Press and multiple printings since then. I do not know if it is still available or if it is just in libraries and used book stores. > > > Kathie Johnston > kathquilt@aol.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
That would be fine. You can go ahead and send to my email address. Lyda Embree ----- Original Message ----- From: "Tina & Bill Swyers" <bswyers@cableone.net> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 12:50 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Embree: Quaker Genealogy > Lyda: > Would like to contact you regarding the Embrey's that lived near our > Williams > land in Cecil Co., Maryland 1736 or earlier. Tina > > -----Original Message----- > From: Judith F. Russell > Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:29 AM > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Embree: Quaker Genealogy > > Just found this in my review of Hinshaw's records for SC: > > Wrightsboro MM, GA > page 1047 Errata and addenda > > 1781, 7, 7. Jesse Embree com [complained of] for bearing arms in a > warlike > manner. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lloyd Embree > To: jrussell2@charter.net > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:51 PM > Subject: Quaker Genealogy > > > My name is Lyda Embree and when I was down at Newberry County Library, a > gentlemen at the library gave me your email address and said that you were > a > connection to the Quaker Genealogy. I am tracing the Embree line for my > husband. I have traced back to the 1600's. I have read some of the papers > on the Embrees, but I still have some questions. I have found the minutes > for Moses Embree III and Margret Elleman. I would like to find Quaker > records for Moses Embree I and the II. Some of their history is in the > Monthly Meeting records for Little Egg Harbor NJ. This is my problem: the > records are not on Ancestry.com or at some of the libraries on line that I > can find. Can you direct me to a place where I can get the information? > I > would appreciate any help. > > Thank you. > Lyda Embree > Simpsonville SC > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Just found this in my review of Hinshaw's records for SC: Wrightsboro MM, GA page 1047 Errata and addenda 1781, 7, 7. Jesse Embree com [complained of] for bearing arms in a warlike manner. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lloyd Embree To: jrussell2@charter.net Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Quaker Genealogy My name is Lyda Embree and when I was down at Newberry County Library, a gentlemen at the library gave me your email address and said that you were a connection to the Quaker Genealogy. I am tracing the Embree line for my husband. I have traced back to the 1600's. I have read some of the papers on the Embrees, but I still have some questions. I have found the minutes for Moses Embree III and Margret Elleman. I would like to find Quaker records for Moses Embree I and the II. Some of their history is in the Monthly Meeting records for Little Egg Harbor NJ. This is my problem: the records are not on Ancestry.com or at some of the libraries on line that I can find. Can you direct me to a place where I can get the information? I would appreciate any help. Thank you. Lyda Embree Simpsonville SC
Lyda: Would like to contact you regarding the Embrey's that lived near our Williams land in Cecil Co., Maryland 1736 or earlier. Tina -----Original Message----- From: Judith F. Russell Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2012 11:29 AM To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Embree: Quaker Genealogy Just found this in my review of Hinshaw's records for SC: Wrightsboro MM, GA page 1047 Errata and addenda 1781, 7, 7. Jesse Embree com [complained of] for bearing arms in a warlike manner. ----- Original Message ----- From: Lloyd Embree To: jrussell2@charter.net Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:51 PM Subject: Quaker Genealogy My name is Lyda Embree and when I was down at Newberry County Library, a gentlemen at the library gave me your email address and said that you were a connection to the Quaker Genealogy. I am tracing the Embree line for my husband. I have traced back to the 1600's. I have read some of the papers on the Embrees, but I still have some questions. I have found the minutes for Moses Embree III and Margret Elleman. I would like to find Quaker records for Moses Embree I and the II. Some of their history is in the Monthly Meeting records for Little Egg Harbor NJ. This is my problem: the records are not on Ancestry.com or at some of the libraries on line that I can find. Can you direct me to a place where I can get the information? I would appreciate any help. Thank you. Lyda Embree Simpsonville SC ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Hi Kathie, thanks for the suggestion. I have bought the book for about five dollars on amazon. there are several copies availble still. ________________________________ From: "kathquilt@aol.com" <kathquilt@aol.com> To: bobhist@yahoo.com; sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 9:01 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Religion in the Backcountry I agree! But, his depiction of backcountry life is still fascinating and I am sure he is representative of a great many clergy of many denominations both 240 years ago and now! Kathie Johnston -----Original Message----- From: Bob <bobhist@yahoo.com> To: sc-bushriverquakers <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:35 pm Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Religion in the Backcountry Be careful of what you read in the Woodmason book.. He was an egotistical maniac, an Angelican priest (Church of England) and was critical of any other religion. During his time travels in the S.C. Backcountry, there were no Church of England (Episcopal) churches, so, in his opinion, all others were sinners. He even considered any marriage outside of the COE as illegal, thus the children of those were illegitimate, though he used harsher words, . ************ I Support The Chester District Genealogical Society Richburg, S.C. http://www.compact2.net/chestergenealogical/index.asp ________________________________ From: "kathquilt@aol.com" <kathquilt@aol.com> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Religion in the Backcountry There is a fascinating book about religion in the back country of South (and North) Carolina in the decade or so before the Revolutionary War. It is a compilation of sermons, letters and other writings of an Anglican priest, who was a former plantation and slave owner, merchant, elected official, etc. who then became a priest and set out to serve those outside of Charleston, SC as an itinerant minister, going 3000 + miles a year. Speaks of Presbyterians, Baptists, Quakers as well as Anglicans. Wonderful descriptions of life on the frontier. Full of his English, educated, loyalist, political and Anglican sentiments! Talks about Saxe Gotha, 96 District, the uncertain border between North and South Carolina and other places that are frequently mentioned in the Bush River list correspondence, and mentions quite a few people, both ministers and various church members. Lots of documentation. The Carolina Backcountry on the Eve of the Revolution. By Charles Woodmason . Edited and with an Introduction by Richard Hooker. ISBN # 0-8078-4035-1 Published in 1953 by the University of North Carolina Press and multiple printings since then. I do not know if it is still available or if it is just in libraries and used book stores. Kathie Johnston kathquilt@aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I agree! But, his depiction of backcountry life is still fascinating and I am sure he is representative of a great many clergy of many denominations both 240 years ago and now! Kathie Johnston -----Original Message----- From: Bob <bobhist@yahoo.com> To: sc-bushriverquakers <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Mar 21, 2012 10:35 pm Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Religion in the Backcountry Be careful of what you read in the Woodmason book.. He was an egotistical maniac, an Angelican priest (Church of England) and was critical of any other religion. During his time travels in the S.C. Backcountry, there were no Church of England (Episcopal) churches, so, in his opinion, all others were sinners. He even considered any marriage outside of the COE as illegal, thus the children of those were illegitimate, though he used harsher words, . ************ I Support The Chester District Genealogical Society Richburg, S.C. http://www.compact2.net/chestergenealogical/index.asp ________________________________ From: "kathquilt@aol.com" <kathquilt@aol.com> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Religion in the Backcountry There is a fascinating book about religion in the back country of South (and North) Carolina in the decade or so before the Revolutionary War. It is a compilation of sermons, letters and other writings of an Anglican priest, who was a former plantation and slave owner, merchant, elected official, etc. who then became a priest and set out to serve those outside of Charleston, SC as an itinerant minister, going 3000 + miles a year. Speaks of Presbyterians, Baptists, Quakers as well as Anglicans. Wonderful descriptions of life on the frontier. Full of his English, educated, loyalist, political and Anglican sentiments! Talks about Saxe Gotha, 96 District, the uncertain border between North and South Carolina and other places that are frequently mentioned in the Bush River list correspondence, and mentions quite a few people, both ministers and various church members. Lots of documentation. The Carolina Backcountry on the Eve of the Revolution. By Charles Woodmason . Edited and with an Introduction by Richard Hooker. ISBN # 0-8078-4035-1 Published in 1953 by the University of North Carolina Press and multiple printings since then. I do not know if it is still available or if it is just in libraries and used book stores. Kathie Johnston kathquilt@aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
I googled this book and found an online site that will allow you to see part of the book. Try here. Again, you can do a search and read some portions of the book. George Bedenbaugh, Newberry SC http://www.amazon.com/Carolina-Backcountry-Eve-Revolution-Woodmason/dp/0807840351#reader_0807840351 ----- Original Message ----- From: <kathquilt@aol.com> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Religion in the Backcountry > There is a fascinating book about religion in the back country of South > (and North) Carolina in the decade or so before the Revolutionary War. It > is a compilation of sermons, letters and other writings of an Anglican > priest, who was a former plantation and slave owner, merchant, elected > official, etc. who then became a priest and set out to serve those outside > of Charleston, SC as an itinerant minister, going 3000 + miles a year. > Speaks of Presbyterians, Baptists, Quakers as well as Anglicans. Wonderful > descriptions of life on the frontier. Full of his English, educated, > loyalist, political and Anglican sentiments! Talks about Saxe Gotha, 96 > District, the uncertain border between North and South Carolina and other > places that are frequently mentioned in the Bush River list > correspondence, and mentions quite a few people, both ministers and > various church members. Lots of documentation. > > > The Carolina Backcountry on the Eve of the Revolution. By Charles > Woodmason . Edited and with an Introduction by Richard Hooker. ISBN # > 0-8078-4035-1 > > > Published in 1953 by the University of North Carolina Press and multiple > printings since then. I do not know if it is still available or if it is > just in libraries and used book stores. > > > Kathie Johnston > kathquilt@aol.com > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
There is a fascinating book about religion in the back country of South (and North) Carolina in the decade or so before the Revolutionary War. It is a compilation of sermons, letters and other writings of an Anglican priest, who was a former plantation and slave owner, merchant, elected official, etc. who then became a priest and set out to serve those outside of Charleston, SC as an itinerant minister, going 3000 + miles a year. Speaks of Presbyterians, Baptists, Quakers as well as Anglicans. Wonderful descriptions of life on the frontier. Full of his English, educated, loyalist, political and Anglican sentiments! Talks about Saxe Gotha, 96 District, the uncertain border between North and South Carolina and other places that are frequently mentioned in the Bush River list correspondence, and mentions quite a few people, both ministers and various church members. Lots of documentation. The Carolina Backcountry on the Eve of the Revolution. By Charles Woodmason . Edited and with an Introduction by Richard Hooker. ISBN # 0-8078-4035-1 Published in 1953 by the University of North Carolina Press and multiple printings since then. I do not know if it is still available or if it is just in libraries and used book stores. Kathie Johnston kathquilt@aol.com
Be careful of what you read in the Woodmason book.. He was an egotistical maniac, an Angelican priest (Church of England) and was critical of any other religion. During his time travels in the S.C. Backcountry, there were no Church of England (Episcopal) churches, so, in his opinion, all others were sinners. He even considered any marriage outside of the COE as illegal, thus the children of those were illegitimate, though he used harsher words, . ************ I Support The Chester District Genealogical Society Richburg, S.C. http://www.compact2.net/chestergenealogical/index.asp ________________________________ From: "kathquilt@aol.com" <kathquilt@aol.com> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2012 11:13 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Religion in the Backcountry There is a fascinating book about religion in the back country of South (and North) Carolina in the decade or so before the Revolutionary War. It is a compilation of sermons, letters and other writings of an Anglican priest, who was a former plantation and slave owner, merchant, elected official, etc. who then became a priest and set out to serve those outside of Charleston, SC as an itinerant minister, going 3000 + miles a year. Speaks of Presbyterians, Baptists, Quakers as well as Anglicans. Wonderful descriptions of life on the frontier. Full of his English, educated, loyalist, political and Anglican sentiments! Talks about Saxe Gotha, 96 District, the uncertain border between North and South Carolina and other places that are frequently mentioned in the Bush River list correspondence, and mentions quite a few people, both ministers and various church members. Lots of documentation. The Carolina Backcountry on the Eve of the Revolution. By Charles Woodmason . Edited and with an Introduction by Richard Hooker. ISBN # 0-8078-4035-1 Published in 1953 by the University of North Carolina Press and multiple printings since then. I do not know if it is still available or if it is just in libraries and used book stores. Kathie Johnston kathquilt@aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Mary Lou, I have read the History of Chester County and have referred to the James Embree family. I am almost positive there are a Moses I, Moses II and Moses III. I am strong on the line from Moses II to present day. Moses III son Jacob is a direct line for us. He is brother to Thomas Embree. I have the info on Moses I and Moses II from the book. I believe that Moses II is the son of Moses I and not Samuel. I also have found the Embree Family Papers by Emilou McDonald, http://www.etsu.edu/cass/archives/Collections/afindaid/a61.html These papers are located at the East Tenn State Univ in Johnson City TN. My husband and I are planning a trip to Johnson City to go to the library and to Embreeville TN. I am having trouble finding the Exeter Church records. What website? I show Robert Embree (father of Moses I) married to Mary Bassett. Documents are good from Mary Bassett's side. Moses Embree I (16 Dec 1652 to 1689) married to Mary Seaman (1672 to 1748) Source Documented Moses Embree II (1675 to 1748) married to Mary ? From trees on line I have connected him to Mary Southard Spragg (1672 to 1749). No real documentation except for Family Data Collection. Moses Embree III (26 Jan 1719 to 14 Feb 1795) married to Margaret Elleman (25 Jun 1731 to 1807) I have alot of documentation on this Moses Embree and his son Jacob and on down the line. I have only found records starting in 1717 connecting Moses Embree II to the Quaker Church. I appreciate any help that you can provide. Lyda Embree ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Lou" <mlspindt@verizon.net> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 7:23 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Embree: Quaker Genealogy > Lydia, > Futhey and Cope's History of Chester County has some information about > the early Embree family. They were French Hugenots and > setled in New York, New Rocelle, and the north side of Long Island. There > is also a book titled "Trail of the Hugenots" by Reman, republished > by the Genealogical Publishing Co. that specifically places one Moses and > a > brother Robert John at Flushing, New York. > I googled New York Quaker records on line, and found that some are > included in Hinshaw, Vol. 3. From pages that were reproduced on line > it would appear that the records are too recent to include the early Moses > I > or II. Whatever New York Quaker records there are are at > Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania. I will look carefully at the New York > Volume of Hinshaw when I am in the library on Saturday. > Moses and Mary (probably Bailey) were married at Exeter in 1745. Check > Exeter Church records. Moses purchased land in Berks in 1737. > I have a good deal of information about Moses and Margaret Elleman > Embree, but I have found very little about the earlier Embrees. This may > be because I have not searched New York records. I wonder when the > Embrees > became Quaker? > Hope this helps a little. I'll be interested in any of the early > information you might wish to share. > Mary Lou Spindt > Allison Park, Pennsylvania > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Judith F. Russell" <jrussell2@charter.net> > To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:09 PM > Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Embree: Quaker Genealogy > > >> Here is a question from our new subscriber Lyda Embree, forwarded with >> her permission. She is now a member of our Bush River list, so you can >> reply to her or to the list. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: Lloyd Embree >> To: jrussell2@charter.net >> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:51 PM >> Subject: Quaker Genealogy >> >> >> My name is Lyda Embree and when I was down at Newberry County Library, a >> gentlemen at the library gave me your email address and said that you >> were >> a connection to the Quaker Genealogy. I am tracing the Embree line for >> my >> husband. I have traced back to the 1600's. I have read some of the >> papers >> on the Embrees, but I still have some questions. I have found the >> minutes >> for Moses Embree III and Margret Elleman. I would like to find Quaker >> records for Moses Embree I and the II. Some of their history is in the >> Monthly Meeting records for Little Egg Harbor NJ. This is my problem: >> the >> records are not on Ancestry.com or at some of the libraries on line that >> I >> can find. Can you direct me to a place where I can get the information? >> I would appreciate any help. >> >> Thank you. >> Lyda Embree >> Simpsonville SC >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Yes. Tom Hamm ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith F. Russell" <jrussell2@charter.net> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Cc: quaker-roots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2012 11:45:27 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] A Question about Hinshaw's transcriptions of Bush River MM As part of our on-going project to gather as much Padgett's Creek MM (Union SC) into one booklet, I'm reading through Hinshaw's transcriptions of the Bush River MM tapes and looking for references to Padgett's Creek, a subsidiary (not sure that's the right term). My question this morning is: if the Bush River meeting records say "of Padgett's Creek," as for example in the Cooper listings on 1028 Vol I, can I list that name as a member of the Padgett's Creek Meeting? Thank you. Judy Russell Bogart, GA ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
As part of our on-going project to gather as much Padgett's Creek MM (Union SC) into one booklet, I'm reading through Hinshaw's transcriptions of the Bush River MM tapes and looking for references to Padgett's Creek, a subsidiary (not sure that's the right term). My question this morning is: if the Bush River meeting records say "of Padgett's Creek," as for example in the Cooper listings on 1028 Vol I, can I list that name as a member of the Padgett's Creek Meeting? Thank you. Judy Russell Bogart, GA
Lydia, Futhey and Cope's History of Chester County has some information about the early Embree family. They were French Hugenots and setled in New York, New Rocelle, and the north side of Long Island. There is also a book titled "Trail of the Hugenots" by Reman, republished by the Genealogical Publishing Co. that specifically places one Moses and a brother Robert John at Flushing, New York. I googled New York Quaker records on line, and found that some are included in Hinshaw, Vol. 3. From pages that were reproduced on line it would appear that the records are too recent to include the early Moses I or II. Whatever New York Quaker records there are are at Swarthmore College in Pennsylvania. I will look carefully at the New York Volume of Hinshaw when I am in the library on Saturday. Moses and Mary (probably Bailey) were married at Exeter in 1745. Check Exeter Church records. Moses purchased land in Berks in 1737. I have a good deal of information about Moses and Margaret Elleman Embree, but I have found very little about the earlier Embrees. This may be because I have not searched New York records. I wonder when the Embrees became Quaker? Hope this helps a little. I'll be interested in any of the early information you might wish to share. Mary Lou Spindt Allison Park, Pennsylvania ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith F. Russell" <jrussell2@charter.net> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 6:09 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Embree: Quaker Genealogy > Here is a question from our new subscriber Lyda Embree, forwarded with > her permission. She is now a member of our Bush River list, so you can > reply to her or to the list. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Lloyd Embree > To: jrussell2@charter.net > Sent: Monday, March 19, 2012 3:51 PM > Subject: Quaker Genealogy > > > My name is Lyda Embree and when I was down at Newberry County Library, a > gentlemen at the library gave me your email address and said that you were > a connection to the Quaker Genealogy. I am tracing the Embree line for my > husband. I have traced back to the 1600's. I have read some of the papers > on the Embrees, but I still have some questions. I have found the minutes > for Moses Embree III and Margret Elleman. I would like to find Quaker > records for Moses Embree I and the II. Some of their history is in the > Monthly Meeting records for Little Egg Harbor NJ. This is my problem: the > records are not on Ancestry.com or at some of the libraries on line that I > can find. Can you direct me to a place where I can get the information? > I would appreciate any help. > > Thank you. > Lyda Embree > Simpsonville SC > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message