Martha, I found this intriguing, so I had to study it a bit this morning. I started by looking at my database and then looking online. I have some Teague connections but not a direct line, so I am always interested in them but never really researched them so a lot of my database on them is marked as "needing confirmed". Since you mentioned Dorothy Gauntt being left out of her parents wills, I finally found wills for Israel and Hannah Spencer and found this as new information that was helpful for me since the Spencer and Abernathy are families that tie into my Stewarts. This Israel Gauntt was disowned from New Garden MM 1758 for marrying out of unity, but I do not see them as parents of your Dorothy. Do you know for sure who her parents were or is that what you are trying to find out? His brother Zebulon is also at New Garden at this time 1760n just listed as "with children" and I have not found a list in Hinshaw for them. ( I think this is your Zebulon but think there is a general difference of opinion about "Dorothy" and " Joshua Teague") Next reference in New Garden is Samuel Kelly and wife Susannah in 1809, 1810 dis of Bush River and 1814 back at New Hope MM in Tenn. Israel and Zebulon both were members of New Burlington MM before New Garden I show the following as children of Zebulon: Maria m Thomas Jenkins; Samuel m Abigail Kelly; Zimri m Sarah Cook; Nebo m Sarah Brooks and Judith Wright; Sarah m Henry Hollingworth. And I have a second wife for Zebulon, Mary Evans. Most all of this needs confirmed but a lot of these end up married to my family. I have a Joshua Teague who married a Dorothy but I have her down as a Caldwell. The Bush River Teague that I do have is an Elijah married Alice Leavell and brother to Joshua. I have their parents as William and Isabell Loftin. They are in my database because of my interest in the McDaniels. (there is a connection that ends in Bush River but not relevant and lengthy). Basically, I am very interested in the Regulators movement and that Jesse Pugh who has hung is not really identified. For years, he was thought to be the Jesse that has since been proven to have died years later in Alabama. My "theory " is that there was two Jesse Pugh's, not that complicated LOL and the one that was hung may not have left descendents and therefore remains not researched. Since your Joshua Teague seems to have survived his "outlaw" status, I have to wonder why. (Yes, I was one of those "why" kids and got the payback with six of my own). Now this is a wild theory... IF Dorothy was a Caldwell and not a Teague and Rev David Caldwell was a big mediator of the trial of the Regulators and a friend of Gov Tyron, maybe she was related and if they "left" the area, he would not get hung! Now I wonder how long it will take on the internet for that to become a fact. Scary! A more sane perspective is that I find no Teagues at New Garden so I would assume that if Joshua Teague had been Quaker it had to before he lived in NC, nor do I find any Gauntt's or Caldwells. (various spellings). Also, some of the very early Quakers in some colonies like Md chose to join the Church of England because if they did not, they could not own land, other chose to migrate to colonies where these English laws were not being enforced. I do think that this "distaste" for English law under which many Quakers were persecuted in England and then had to choose to move to the colonies prevailed for generations and were likely a big factor in the actual Regulator movement. Many had left the Quaker church years before and many still had family members that were still members. Quakers did not shun a person after they were disowned and often allowed them to come back so family ties could remain strong even when they were no longer in the same "church". Quakers came here for "freedom from English persecution" oft times, so I think there was a basic need to resist as best they could the English laws. Here is something I found online that is worth keeping. I think I would start by seeing if I could find just what "church" all of these outlaws attended. Jesse Pugh is not listed so was he really hung? A PROCLAMATION: "Whereas / have been in formed that many persons who have been concerned in the late Rebellion are desirous of submitting themselves to the Government, I do therefore give notice that every person who will come in either to mine or General Waddell's camp, lay down their arms and take the oath of Allegiance and promise to pay all taxes that are now due or may hereafter become due by them respectively and submit to the law of this Country, shall have his Majesty's most gracious and free pardon for all Treasons, Insurrections and Rebellings done or committed, on or before the 16th of May last, provided they make their submission afore said on or before the tenth of July next. The following persons are however excluded from the benefits of this Proclamation, viz, all the outlaws, the prisoners, all those concerned in the blowing up of General Waddell's ammunition in Mecklenburg County, and the undernamed persons, to wit: Samuel Jones *_Joshua Teague_* Samuel Waggoner Simon Dunn, Jr. Abraham Greson Benjamin Merrill <http://www.rootsweb.com/%7Encrevwar/ncrev_story.htm#benjamin> James Wilkerson Edward Smith John Bumpas Joseph Boring William Rankin William Robeson John Winkler John Wilcox Jacob Felton Thomas Persons Given under my hand and the Great Seal of the Province, this 11th day June, A. Dom. 1771. On 6/25/2012 3:44 AM, Martha wrote: > RE: From Quaker to Baptist in Newberry ? > > > While tracing my 5Gr-GP TEAGUE/GAUNTT in NC & SC, a few puzzling questions > arose ... > > > 1. My GAUNTT/TEAGUE family made a transition from Rowan Co, NC to > Newberry/Laurens Co, SC abt.1765. I'm wondering if they changed from Quaker > to Baptist then, or before that in Jersey Settlement, NC? From SC until > today descendants of these branches of my family still remaining in AL are > still predominately Baptist. The religious affiliation isn't really as > important as knowing 'why the change'? It may be the answer as to why my > Dorothy Gauntt, w/o-Joshua Teague, and s/o-Israel Gauntt (1725-1801) of > Newberry, was left out of her mother & her father's wills in 1802 & 1804 > respectively. > > 2. Was this circumstance caused by Joshua Teague's association w/ the > 'Regulator Movement' in NC, whose members were either hanged or chased into > SC a few years before the Battle of Alamance (1771) by Colonial Gov. Tryon > on charges of "...inciting the populace to rebellion" ? Was Dorothy > 'disowned' by her pacifist Quaker family bc/ of Joshua's stand? > > 3. Are any of these GAUNTTs or TEAGUEs buried in the Gauntt cemetery, or > other cemeteries in Newberry that you know of; or could they be buried in > Laurens Co, SC where they also lived by c.1780 ? > > > I'm stumped, having tried many other 'theories'. If anyone has a plausible > theory... > > > Thanks, > Martha > > > > =========================== > > FROM: Peter Gaunt > Hananiah Gauntt > Zebulon Gauntt > Dorothy Gauntt + Joshua Teague > Sophia Teague + John Lyon > Polly Lyon + (James) Carden > JHR Carden + Eliza Dean > William C. Carden + Nancy Fancher > Robert G. Carden + Leila M. Adams > Mary Lois Carden + Ray Sullivan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Listings for the Gauntt Cemetery (and 1000s of others) can be found at www.findagrave.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha" <dixiepeanut@comcast.net> To: <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] From Quaker to Baptist in Newberry ? > RE: From Quaker to Baptist in Newberry ? > > > While tracing my 5Gr-GP TEAGUE/GAUNTT in NC & SC, a few puzzling questions > arose ... > > > 1. My GAUNTT/TEAGUE family made a transition from Rowan Co, NC to > Newberry/Laurens Co, SC abt.1765. I'm wondering if they changed from > Quaker > to Baptist then, or before that in Jersey Settlement, NC? From SC until > today descendants of these branches of my family still remaining in AL are > still predominately Baptist. The religious affiliation isn't really as > important as knowing 'why the change'? It may be the answer as to why my > Dorothy Gauntt, w/o-Joshua Teague, and s/o-Israel Gauntt (1725-1801) of > Newberry, was left out of her mother & her father's wills in 1802 & 1804 > respectively. > > 2. Was this circumstance caused by Joshua Teague's association w/ the > 'Regulator Movement' in NC, whose members were either hanged or chased > into > SC a few years before the Battle of Alamance (1771) by Colonial Gov. Tryon > on charges of "...inciting the populace to rebellion" ? Was Dorothy > 'disowned' by her pacifist Quaker family bc/ of Joshua's stand? > > 3. Are any of these GAUNTTs or TEAGUEs buried in the Gauntt cemetery, or > other cemeteries in Newberry that you know of; or could they be buried in > Laurens Co, SC where they also lived by c.1780 ? > > > I'm stumped, having tried many other 'theories'. If anyone has a plausible > theory... > > > Thanks, > Martha > > > > =========================== > > FROM: Peter Gaunt > Hananiah Gauntt > Zebulon Gauntt > Dorothy Gauntt + Joshua Teague > Sophia Teague + John Lyon > Polly Lyon + (James) Carden > JHR Carden + Eliza Dean > William C. Carden + Nancy Fancher > Robert G. Carden + Leila M. Adams > Mary Lois Carden + Ray Sullivan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

RE: From Quaker to Baptist in Newberry ? While tracing my 5Gr-GP TEAGUE/GAUNTT in NC & SC, a few puzzling questions arose ... 1. My GAUNTT/TEAGUE family made a transition from Rowan Co, NC to Newberry/Laurens Co, SC abt.1765. I'm wondering if they changed from Quaker to Baptist then, or before that in Jersey Settlement, NC? From SC until today descendants of these branches of my family still remaining in AL are still predominately Baptist. The religious affiliation isn't really as important as knowing 'why the change'? It may be the answer as to why my Dorothy Gauntt, w/o-Joshua Teague, and s/o-Israel Gauntt (1725-1801) of Newberry, was left out of her mother & her father's wills in 1802 & 1804 respectively. 2. Was this circumstance caused by Joshua Teague's association w/ the 'Regulator Movement' in NC, whose members were either hanged or chased into SC a few years before the Battle of Alamance (1771) by Colonial Gov. Tryon on charges of "...inciting the populace to rebellion" ? Was Dorothy 'disowned' by her pacifist Quaker family bc/ of Joshua's stand? 3. Are any of these GAUNTTs or TEAGUEs buried in the Gauntt cemetery, or other cemeteries in Newberry that you know of; or could they be buried in Laurens Co, SC where they also lived by c.1780 ? I'm stumped, having tried many other 'theories'. If anyone has a plausible theory... Thanks, Martha =========================== FROM: Peter Gaunt Hananiah Gauntt Zebulon Gauntt Dorothy Gauntt + Joshua Teague Sophia Teague + John Lyon Polly Lyon + (James) Carden JHR Carden + Eliza Dean William C. Carden + Nancy Fancher Robert G. Carden + Leila M. Adams Mary Lois Carden + Ray Sullivan -----Original Message----- From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com

Don't know that I am much help, but I know some children were left out of wills because they had already gotten their inheritance/dowry before the death of the parent.  Many times you would see older sons or married daughters not in wills.  They had already received theirs.  Another time I found some left out, one of the daughter's was disabled of some sort, so the bulk of the will left for her care.  As to the change of Quaker to Baptist, have you looked at whether they had slaves?  Many Quakers were disowned or whatever the term, because they had slaves and were not willing to let them go.  I was reading how some did not move to Ohio with the rest of the Quakers because they refused to give up their slaves.  I know I was reading in the Clinton, Ohio Quakers, that after the older ones passed away, many of the younger ones moved away, leaving the few Quakers behind, younger ones, to mainly now have friends in non Quakers, so the Quakers became non Quakers. I found a few listing of graves when I googled Quaker cemeteries in Union County, I wonder since my ancestors were listed as Fairfield County at one time, could they be there, or at the old site of Camden/Wateree area?  I will have to take time to go visit a bunch as they do not have listings to who are buried there though.  Will keep Gauntt and Teague in mind when goofing off one day and visiting them. Have you checked on findagrave.com?  They have some of the old Quaker burial sites on there. My line is Benson's with marriages to Clark, Campbell, Kelly, Evans and Paty. Brenda ________________________________ From: Martha <dixiepeanut@comcast.net> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, June 25, 2012 3:44 AM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] From Quaker to Baptist in Newberry ? RE: From Quaker to Baptist in Newberry ? While tracing my 5Gr-GP TEAGUE/GAUNTT in NC & SC, a few puzzling questions arose ... 1. My GAUNTT/TEAGUE family made a transition from Rowan Co, NC to Newberry/Laurens Co, SC abt.1765. I'm wondering if they changed from Quaker to Baptist then, or before that in Jersey Settlement, NC? From SC until today descendants of these branches of my family still remaining in AL are still predominately Baptist. The religious affiliation isn't really as important as knowing 'why the change'? It may be the answer as to why my Dorothy Gauntt, w/o-Joshua Teague, and s/o-Israel Gauntt (1725-1801) of Newberry, was left out of her mother & her father's wills in 1802 & 1804 respectively.  2. Was this circumstance caused by Joshua Teague's association w/ the 'Regulator Movement' in NC, whose members were either hanged or chased into SC a few years before the Battle of Alamance (1771) by Colonial Gov. Tryon on charges of "...inciting the populace to rebellion" ? Was Dorothy 'disowned' by her pacifist Quaker family bc/ of Joshua's stand? 3. Are any of these GAUNTTs or TEAGUEs buried in the Gauntt cemetery, or other cemeteries in Newberry that you know of; or could they be buried in Laurens Co, SC where they also lived by c.1780 ? I'm stumped, having tried many other 'theories'. If anyone has a plausible theory... Thanks, Martha =========================== FROM: Peter Gaunt       Hananiah Gauntt         Zebulon Gauntt          Dorothy Gauntt + Joshua Teague           Sophia Teague + John Lyon           Polly Lyon + (James) Carden             JHR Carden + Eliza Dean             William C. Carden + Nancy Fancher               Robert G. Carden + Leila M. Adams               Mary Lois Carden + Ray Sullivan    -----Original Message----- From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, How about Sarah McKinsey - Bush River   Any other McKinsey's would be helpful   All the best, Bruce Locken --- On Fri, 6/22/12, Judith F. Russell <jrussell2@charter.net> wrote: From: Judith F. Russell <jrussell2@charter.net> Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Quaker Burial sites in Union and Newberry, SC? To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Date: Friday, June 22, 2012, 7:18 AM I am developing a list of Quaker Burial sites in Newberry and Union County, SC, as a handout for our spring 2013 Quaker Homecoming Newberry.    I'm including the list that I have so far, below.   Would you help me, please, by sending the names (and location and burial details, if possible) of any other Union and Newberry County cemeteries in which there are Quaker burials?  I'd like to make a fact page for each cemetery and a map.  Thanks so much. If you have a question or comment, not for the general list, please respond to me at jrussell2@charter.net I already have these: Newberry *Bush River *Reagin *Gauntt *White Lick *Rocky Springs Union *Padgett’s Creek *Pearson *Santuc *Cane Creek *Rayborns, Rabons Creek *Tyger Creek/River ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am developing a list of Quaker Burial sites in Newberry and Union County, SC, as a handout for our spring 2013 Quaker Homecoming Newberry. I'm including the list that I have so far, below. Would you help me, please, by sending the names (and location and burial details, if possible) of any other Union and Newberry County cemeteries in which there are Quaker burials? I'd like to make a fact page for each cemetery and a map. Thanks so much. If you have a question or comment, not for the general list, please respond to me at jrussell2@charter.net I already have these: Newberry *Bush River *Reagin *Gauntt *White Lick *Rocky Springs Union *Padgett’s Creek *Pearson *Santuc *Cane Creek *Rayborns, Rabons Creek *Tyger Creek/River

Thank you, Ellen On Jun 13, 2012, at 7:01 PM, Harriet Imrey wrote: > Try starting from this url: > www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx > > If you use NoScript or a similar safeguard, be sure to enable this > site > on it. Otherwise, the search page will just keep on trying to load > forever! > > Harriet > > On 6/13/2012 7:48 PM, Ellen Achenbaugh wrote: >> I tried what Bev said on going to Bureau of Land Management and >> going to their Depart of the Interior's website. I couldn't find >> where to find the state nor but in a name to look up. >> >> Can You help me please. >> >> Thank you, >> >> Ellen >> On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Beverly Rampey wrote: >> >>> see - this is why I stay tuned to this site. You all are so >>> knowledgeable. Thanks for the specifics. >>> >>> Bev >>> >>> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Poldi Tonin<toninroots@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> The land records of the BLM is for federal land grants. Some >>> states such as Texas were state land grants. A portion of some >>> states may contain federal lands and be included in the BLM >>> records. Virginia was a state land grant as were many of the early >>> colonial areas prior to the Revolutionary War and the >>> establishment of the federal government. >>> Poldi >>> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

I forward this query to the Bush River and Union County lists with Carole's permission. Please correspond with her directly about these families at: mott5@comporium.net ----- Original Message ----- From: Carole Moon-Walker To: jrussell2@charter.net Sent: Thursday, June 21, 2012 11:20 AM Subject: CASEY AND PRINCE IN UNION COUNTY Judy, Has anyone corresponded with you in regards to a CASEY and PRINCE families being Quakers? I don't know if they were, but they came through Union County. I know some of my HOLLINGSWORTH came through Newberry on into Pickens County, but would really like to know if the Casey and Prince families were Quakers. Thanks, Carole Sellers Moon-Walker in SC

Hello, I have ancestors who attended those meetings in SC. Are there web sites that have information about about these meetings and the names of those who attended them? I might be able to share information, too, that I have found. Thank you in advance to any help, Sincerely, Susan Davis www.tribalpages.com/tribes/shasta4737 -----Original Message----- From: Judith F. Russell <jrussell2@charter.net> To: sc-bushriverquakers <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Cc: Pearson Descendant Discussion List <Pearson@ohgenweb.net>; SCNEWBER-L <SCNEWBER-L@rootsweb.com>; SMITH-SC-L <SMITH-SC-L@rootsweb.com>; calebgilbert <calebgilbert@yahoogroups.com>; SCUNION-L <SCUNION-L@rootsweb.com>; hollingsworth <hollingsworth@rootsweb.com>; quaker-roots <quaker-roots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thu, Jun 21, 2012 10:45 am Subject: [Q-R] Announcing SC Quaker Researchers and Descendants Homecoming: May 2 - 5, 2013, Newberry and Union, SC [Important: Please don't hit "reply" to this message to write back. Send all thoughts, ideas, comments, and your interests in volunteering on one or more committees to me at jrussell2@charter.net ] To all South Carolina Quaker researchers and descendants: I am very pleased to announce that plans are in the works for a spring 2013 Quaker Homecoming in Newberry and Union Counties, South Carolina. The dates are May 2 - 5, Thurs through Sunday, 2013. Please mark your calendars and make plans to come! Along with our previously known Bush River contacts, we have expanded our mailing list to include many of the Union County Quaker researchers and descendants that we haven't had a chance to meet yet. We hope that they'll join us in planning, implementing, and participating in this Homecoming. Some of the Union County Quaker families (many with Newberry connections also) are Addington, Clark/Clerk, Cook, Cooper, Dodd, Edmundson, Fincher, Gist, Haskit, Hooker, Hunt, Kenworthy, Lamb, Martindell, Milhouse, Minton, Neaderman, Pearson, Randel, Roberts, Smith, Spray,Townsend, Whiston, and Wilson. I've included a tentative agenda for the weekend's activity. YOUR COMMITTEE VERY MUCH NEEDS AND WELCOMES HELP FOR ALL OF THE EVENTS LISTED BELOW!! If you are not able to be there in person, please consider working on one of the committees listed below and communicating with others electronically to submit a report. We hope to have computer projector accessibility at this meeting to view reports. Let Judy Russell ( jrussell2@charter.net ) know of your interest in working on a project, and she'll put those interested in touch with each other. Please forward this email to any person or group that might be interested in joining our activities. We are very excited to have plans in the works for this meeting. Give us your thoughts, comments and ideas! We look forward to hearing from you. With Best wishes! Judy Russell, jrussell2@charter.net https://sites.google.com/site/bushriverquakersorg/ Newberry Hotels at: www.booking.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Preliminary Planned Agenda, 2013 SC Quaker Researchers and Descendants Homecoming Thurs May 2: informal gathering and dinner. Reports on various on-going projects such as Website Development, Ideas for tombstone repair and replacement, future publications, attempts to find the foundations of the old meeting house, National Historic Register nomination, possibility of getting a Ground Penetrating Radar assessment of the Bush River site. Other items as suggested. Friday May 3: Newberry County Activities, including morning visit to Bush River Cemetery with landscaping, clean up activities, and brunch. Afternoon will be visits to other Quaker and revolutionary sites near Newberry. Group dinner (program to be determined) or dinner on your own. Saturday May 4: Union County activities, including visit to newly surveyed and maintained Padgett's Creek Quaker Cemetery. Visits to other Revolutionarily and Quaker sites and cemeteries in and near Union County. Saturday night: banquet and keynote address in Newberry, "The migration of South Carolina Quakers to the MidWest." Sunday May 5 : Friends Meeting in Newberry led by Palmetto Friends, Columbia Friends, and Milton Cook of Waynesville, OH. Brunch picnic and departure. We have money in our treasury given to us last time for the departure brunch, but need some helping hands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Further Homecoming updates will be sent via messages on the free rootsweb Bush River Quakers list. If you are not a subscriber, please subscribe now. To subscribe to the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You can easily unsubscribe later. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to QUAKER-ROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

[Important: Please don't hit "reply" to this message to write back. Send all thoughts, ideas, comments, and your interests in volunteering on one or more committees to me at jrussell2@charter.net ] To all South Carolina Quaker researchers and descendants: I am very pleased to announce that plans are in the works for a spring 2013 Quaker Homecoming in Newberry and Union Counties, South Carolina. The dates are May 2 - 5, Thurs through Sunday, 2013. Please mark your calendars and make plans to come! Along with our previously known Bush River contacts, we have expanded our mailing list to include many of the Union County Quaker researchers and descendants that we haven't had a chance to meet yet. We hope that they'll join us in planning, implementing, and participating in this Homecoming. Some of the Union County Quaker families (many with Newberry connections also) are Addington, Clark/Clerk, Cook, Cooper, Dodd, Edmundson, Fincher, Gist, Haskit, Hooker, Hunt, Kenworthy, Lamb, Martindell, Milhouse, Minton, Neaderman, Pearson, Randel, Roberts, Smith, Spray,Townsend, Whiston, and Wilson. I've included a tentative agenda for the weekend's activity. YOUR COMMITTEE VERY MUCH NEEDS AND WELCOMES HELP FOR ALL OF THE EVENTS LISTED BELOW!! If you are not able to be there in person, please consider working on one of the committees listed below and communicating with others electronically to submit a report. We hope to have computer projector accessibility at this meeting to view reports. Let Judy Russell ( jrussell2@charter.net ) know of your interest in working on a project, and she'll put those interested in touch with each other. Please forward this email to any person or group that might be interested in joining our activities. We are very excited to have plans in the works for this meeting. Give us your thoughts, comments and ideas! We look forward to hearing from you. With Best wishes! Judy Russell, jrussell2@charter.net https://sites.google.com/site/bushriverquakersorg/ Newberry Hotels at: www.booking.com ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Preliminary Planned Agenda, 2013 SC Quaker Researchers and Descendants Homecoming Thurs May 2: informal gathering and dinner. Reports on various on-going projects such as Website Development, Ideas for tombstone repair and replacement, future publications, attempts to find the foundations of the old meeting house, National Historic Register nomination, possibility of getting a Ground Penetrating Radar assessment of the Bush River site. Other items as suggested. Friday May 3: Newberry County Activities, including morning visit to Bush River Cemetery with landscaping, clean up activities, and brunch. Afternoon will be visits to other Quaker and revolutionary sites near Newberry. Group dinner (program to be determined) or dinner on your own. Saturday May 4: Union County activities, including visit to newly surveyed and maintained Padgett's Creek Quaker Cemetery. Visits to other Revolutionarily and Quaker sites and cemeteries in and near Union County. Saturday night: banquet and keynote address in Newberry, "The migration of South Carolina Quakers to the MidWest." Sunday May 5 : Friends Meeting in Newberry led by Palmetto Friends, Columbia Friends, and Milton Cook of Waynesville, OH. Brunch picnic and departure. We have money in our treasury given to us last time for the departure brunch, but need some helping hands. ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Further Homecoming updates will be sent via messages on the free rootsweb Bush River Quakers list. If you are not a subscriber, please subscribe now. To subscribe to the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'subscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message. You can easily unsubscribe later.

I have that file, as a matter of fact, I was the one who sent him the information on Samuel Benson, son of Thomas Benson.  I do appreciate it though, you never know what we may have missed at times.  I would think if the book had any more on the Benson's he would have put it in his tree.  I do know he was more interested in his direct line, so he filed other information I gave him, but not listed in his direct tree.  Thomas is where we split off, not sure which brother was his direct ancestor though. Brenda ________________________________ From: Patty <pattydb@sbcglobal.net> To: "sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com" <sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 18, 2012 1:23 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] James Benson ....  I believe the James Benson Jr you refer to is the one that married Elizabeth Clark dau of John Clark and Mary Campbell. They moved to Ohio. James Benson Sr was married to Martha Quinn, not sure but found a book years ago with this information:   A James Benson in 1779 census Union co., S.C. >From The Benson Family of Ireland and the United States freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jacmac/benson.htm Some taken from "Copeland, Bostick, Patton, and Allied Families". James and Matha Quinn Benson were both born in County Tyrone, Northern Ireland. This is taken from James Benson's great-grandson, Dr. Henry Clark Benson, a Methodist minister, who wrote an autobiographical sketch some years ago. Dr. Benson wrote that the Benson family was of English descent, though residents of Ireland. James Benson, born about 1730 attempted to go to America when about 12 yrs. of age because he could not get along with his stepmother. He packed a few clothes, went to Belfast and booked passage to Richmond, Va. where his uncle resided. He hoped that his uncle would pay for his passage to America. Young Benson decided to remain in Ireland, however, and did not attempt to make the trip until about 2 yrs. later. His ship, instead of going to Va., went instead to Charleston, S.C. and there James was taken over by a man who paid for the passage to America in exchange for James' labor on his farm. James Benson lived in Union district, S.C. where he eventually married and became quite prosperous. James and Martha resided in S.C. for the remainder of their lives. Martha is believed to have died in Union County prior to 1799, while James died there in 1801. His will, which was written on 20 April, 1799, was subsequently probated before the Union County Court on 17 April 1801. >________________________________ > From: Harriet Imrey <hhimrey@gmail.com> >To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:20 PM >Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] James Benson's land purchase >  >Hi, Brenda.  I apologize for giving you incorrect information in my >previous message about a 1773 purchase of 300 acres by James Benson from >Samuel Young.  The purchaser was a different James Benson, a member of >the Spartanburg Co SC family--not the James Benson of Union Co SC. > >The deed abstracts confused me because there were a lot of different >Anson Co NC grants to Samuel Young and to John Gordon, and a lot of >different waterways called Little River at different times.  However, >there was only one NC grant to a Thomas Timmons by 1754, and I know >where that one was.  It's on the south fork of Tyger River (apparently >called Little River in the 1750's, at least in NC), west of I-85, and >south of the town  of Wellford SC in western Spartanburg Co.  The Fort >Prince historic site was described as "near Timmons Old Field", which >adjoined the land purchased by that other James Benson. > >Your James Benson of Union Co owned a 300-acre tract in addition to his >100-acre grant.  The SC provincial and state deeds through 1788 do not >include a record of the purchase.  If he bought land from the state of >SC, there is no longer a record of the plat.  James Benson Jr. inherited >that particular land, and must have sold it before leaving for Ohio in >1805.  The record of that sale would be in the Union Co deed books, and >should describe its location and its chain-of-title. > >Harriet > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

....  I believe the James Benson Jr you refer to is the one that married Elizabeth Clark dau of John Clark and Mary Campbell. They moved to Ohio. James Benson Sr was married to Martha Quinn, not sure but found a book years ago with this information:   A James Benson in 1779 census Union co., S.C. From The Benson Family of Ireland and the United States freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~jacmac/benson.htm Some taken from "Copeland, Bostick, Patton, and Allied Families". James and Matha Quinn Benson were both born in County Tyrone, Northern Ireland. This is taken from James Benson's great-grandson, Dr. Henry Clark Benson, a Methodist minister, who wrote an autobiographical sketch some years ago. Dr. Benson wrote that the Benson family was of English descent, though residents of Ireland. James Benson, born about 1730 attempted to go to America when about 12 yrs. of age because he could not get along with his stepmother. He packed a few clothes, went to Belfast and booked passage to Richmond, Va. where his uncle resided. He hoped that his uncle would pay for his passage to America. Young Benson decided to remain in Ireland, however, and did not attempt to make the trip until about 2 yrs. later. His ship, instead of going to Va., went instead to Charleston, S.C. and there James was taken over by a man who paid for the passage to America in exchange for James' labor on his farm. James Benson lived in Union district, S.C. where he eventually married and became quite prosperous. James and Martha resided in S.C. for the remainder of their lives. Martha is believed to have died in Union County prior to 1799, while James died there in 1801. His will, which was written on 20 April, 1799, was subsequently probated before the Union County Court on 17 April 1801. >________________________________ > From: Harriet Imrey <hhimrey@gmail.com> >To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 9:20 PM >Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] James Benson's land purchase > >Hi, Brenda.  I apologize for giving you incorrect information in my >previous message about a 1773 purchase of 300 acres by James Benson from >Samuel Young.  The purchaser was a different James Benson, a member of >the Spartanburg Co SC family--not the James Benson of Union Co SC. > >The deed abstracts confused me because there were a lot of different >Anson Co NC grants to Samuel Young and to John Gordon, and a lot of >different waterways called Little River at different times.  However, >there was only one NC grant to a Thomas Timmons by 1754, and I know >where that one was.  It's on the south fork of Tyger River (apparently >called Little River in the 1750's, at least in NC), west of I-85, and >south of the town  of Wellford SC in western Spartanburg Co.  The Fort >Prince historic site was described as "near Timmons Old Field", which >adjoined the land purchased by that other James Benson. > >Your James Benson of Union Co owned a 300-acre tract in addition to his >100-acre grant.  The SC provincial and state deeds through 1788 do not >include a record of the purchase.  If he bought land from the state of >SC, there is no longer a record of the plat.  James Benson Jr. inherited >that particular land, and must have sold it before leaving for Ohio in >1805.  The record of that sale would be in the Union Co deed books, and >should describe its location and its chain-of-title. > >Harriet > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Harriet, thanks for being so prompt. that's exactly the website I use. Bev On Wed, Jun 13, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Harriet Imrey <hhimrey@gmail.com> wrote: > Try starting from this url: > www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx > > If you use NoScript or a similar safeguard, be sure to enable this site > on it. Otherwise, the search page will just keep on trying to load > forever! > > Harriet > > On 6/13/2012 7:48 PM, Ellen Achenbaugh wrote: > > I tried what Bev said on going to Bureau of Land Management and going to > their Depart of the Interior's website. I couldn't find where to find the > state nor but in a name to look up. > > > > Can You help me please. > > > > Thank you, > > > > Ellen > > On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Beverly Rampey wrote: > > > >> see - this is why I stay tuned to this site. You all are so > knowledgeable. Thanks for the specifics. > >> > >> Bev > >> > >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Poldi Tonin<toninroots@gmail.com> > >> wrote: > >> The land records of the BLM is for federal land grants. Some states > such as Texas were state land grants. A portion of some states may contain > federal lands and be included in the BLM records. Virginia was a state land > grant as were many of the early colonial areas prior to the Revolutionary > War and the establishment of the federal government. > >> Poldi > >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi, Brenda. I apologize for giving you incorrect information in my previous message about a 1773 purchase of 300 acres by James Benson from Samuel Young. The purchaser was a different James Benson, a member of the Spartanburg Co SC family--not the James Benson of Union Co SC. The deed abstracts confused me because there were a lot of different Anson Co NC grants to Samuel Young and to John Gordon, and a lot of different waterways called Little River at different times. However, there was only one NC grant to a Thomas Timmons by 1754, and I know where that one was. It's on the south fork of Tyger River (apparently called Little River in the 1750's, at least in NC), west of I-85, and south of the town of Wellford SC in western Spartanburg Co. The Fort Prince historic site was described as "near Timmons Old Field", which adjoined the land purchased by that other James Benson. Your James Benson of Union Co owned a 300-acre tract in addition to his 100-acre grant. The SC provincial and state deeds through 1788 do not include a record of the purchase. If he bought land from the state of SC, there is no longer a record of the plat. James Benson Jr. inherited that particular land, and must have sold it before leaving for Ohio in 1805. The record of that sale would be in the Union Co deed books, and should describe its location and its chain-of-title. Harriet

Try starting from this url: www.glorecords.blm.gov/search/default.aspx If you use NoScript or a similar safeguard, be sure to enable this site on it. Otherwise, the search page will just keep on trying to load forever! Harriet On 6/13/2012 7:48 PM, Ellen Achenbaugh wrote: > I tried what Bev said on going to Bureau of Land Management and going to their Depart of the Interior's website. I couldn't find where to find the state nor but in a name to look up. > > Can You help me please. > > Thank you, > > Ellen > On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Beverly Rampey wrote: > >> see - this is why I stay tuned to this site. You all are so knowledgeable. Thanks for the specifics. >> >> Bev >> >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Poldi Tonin<toninroots@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> The land records of the BLM is for federal land grants. Some states such as Texas were state land grants. A portion of some states may contain federal lands and be included in the BLM records. Virginia was a state land grant as were many of the early colonial areas prior to the Revolutionary War and the establishment of the federal government. >> Poldi >>

It is no wonder so many people are confused with so many having the same name.  And you have to wonder since there was a Thomas Benson, around in mid 1700s, if he was the brother of James.  And that would make sense to James naming a son Thomas and Thomas naming a son Thomas.  Has anyone looked at the ACME map of Union county before.  I see Fairforest Creek on it and not far from Evans Branch and Kelly Branch, which Bensons married Evans and Kelly.  Learning a lot here. Thanks, at this point I have most names and dates and now have to find the juicy stuff to go with it, like the wills and deeds, etc. I am new to this, only having done by just plundering on internet at this point. Only information I have on Thomas Benson, is married Mary Kelly and date and where, born abouts for both, census showing lived in Ohio, Indiana and Wisconsin, but no deaths or what after Wisconsin.  Any suggestions on how to find more on him at that point?  Last seen 1855 Census in Wisconsin for him and Mary.   At this point I have all the stuff in boxes and files.  How has everyone put their information in usable format?  Trying to decide how to handle all this information now. Brenda ________________________________ From: Harriet Imrey <hhimrey@gmail.com> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2012 10:20 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] James Benson's land purchase Hi, Brenda.  I apologize for giving you incorrect information in my previous message about a 1773 purchase of 300 acres by James Benson from Samuel Young.  The purchaser was a different James Benson, a member of the Spartanburg Co SC family--not the James Benson of Union Co SC. The deed abstracts confused me because there were a lot of different Anson Co NC grants to Samuel Young and to John Gordon, and a lot of different waterways called Little River at different times.  However, there was only one NC grant to a Thomas Timmons by 1754, and I know where that one was.  It's on the south fork of Tyger River (apparently called Little River in the 1750's, at least in NC), west of I-85, and south of the town  of Wellford SC in western Spartanburg Co.  The Fort Prince historic site was described as "near Timmons Old Field", which adjoined the land purchased by that other James Benson. Your James Benson of Union Co owned a 300-acre tract in addition to his 100-acre grant.  The SC provincial and state deeds through 1788 do not include a record of the purchase.  If he bought land from the state of SC, there is no longer a record of the plat.  James Benson Jr. inherited that particular land, and must have sold it before leaving for Ohio in 1805.  The record of that sale would be in the Union Co deed books, and should describe its location and its chain-of-title. Harriet ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I tried what Bev said on going to Bureau of Land Management and going to their Depart of the Interior's website. I couldn't find where to find the state nor but in a name to look up. Can You help me please. Thank you, Ellen On Jun 12, 2012, at 8:42 PM, Beverly Rampey wrote: > see - this is why I stay tuned to this site. You all are so > knowledgeable. Thanks for the specifics. > > Bev > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Poldi Tonin <toninroots@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> The land records of the BLM is for federal land grants. Some states >> such as >> Texas were state land grants. A portion of some states may contain >> federal >> lands and be included in the BLM records. Virginia was a state land >> grant >> as were many of the early colonial areas prior to the Revolutionary >> War and >> the establishment of the federal government. >> Poldi >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Vivian <vivm2007@woh.rr.com> wrote: >> >>> Virginia land records are available at the Library of Virginia >>> website. >>> http://lva1.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/F >>> Many of the original deeds are online >>> >>> On 6/12/2012 7:39 PM, Nancy Hansen wrote: >>>> Bev, >>>> >>>> When I search on Virginia, Tenn & Texas. I only get 1 or 2 >>>> counties to >>>> choose from. Is that your experience? >>>> >>>> Nan >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com >>>> [mailto:sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of >>>> Beverly >>>> Rampey >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:22 PM >>>> To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com >>>> Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Brenda Brazell's request >>>> >>>> To check on where the land for your ancestor may have been, go to >>>> the >>> Bureau >>>> of Land Management, Department of the Interior's website and look >>>> for >> the >>>> state and then for the name. There are worlds of information >>>> there. >> We >>>> have tracked our ancestors' moves across from Virginia to >>>> Missouri by >> the >>>> land purchases they have made. We have also been able to get >>>> copies of >>> the >>>> actual purchase agreements which show the various Presidents who >>>> were >>>> serving when the purchases were made. It's a great little piece of >>> American >>>> history. >>>> >>>> Bev Rampey >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word >>>> 'unsubscribe' >>> without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania >> for her." >> Hercule Poirot >> >> http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com >> >> http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Langford >> This project includes Lankford spelling also. >> >> "Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will >> eternally prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne >> for a while by violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical." >> --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810 >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message >

For a printout of the plat of James Benson's land, go to the search engine of documents at the SC Dept. of Archives and History at www.archivesindex.sc.gov. Enter <Benson, James> in the Name section, and you can also limit the years to 1760 through 1775. The process for getting a land grant was for the resident to appear before the SC Council in Charleston and petition for it, also swear to one's "headright". That's the number of people in one's household. From 1735 to 1756, land was allocated at 50 acres per person; from mid-1756 until the land office closed in 1773, the amount of land was 100 acres for a head of household (including single ones), plus 50 acres for each additional membe4r. The Council approved the petition, and ordered the Surveyor General to write out a Precept (also called a warrant of survey). The petitioner collected his Precept from the Surveyor General's office, usually on the same day as his land petition, then returned to the region of the province where he wished to settle. He located the local Deputy Surveyor (D.S.) in his area, and usually showed him the vacant land he'd selected for a homestead. The D.S. surveyed the land and drew a plat of it, and carried his plats to the Surveyor General in Charleston. The S.G. forwarded the approved plats to the Governor, who signed a grant for each one. The settler, after receiving his/her grant, made another trip to Charleston to file a Memorial on the land, in order to secure his title to it. He also did that after purchasing land from other individuals. The SCDAH index includes printable copies of the plats, plus index entries for grants and Memorials (among other types of documents). The land petitions are not indexed, but have been published by Brent H. Holcomb in a 7-volume series. James Benson petitioned for a single grant of 100 acres on "Waters of Broad River" on Tuesday 2 Sep 1766. The plat shows that his tract was bordered on its southeast by the Tyger River, a western tributary of the Broad River. The land around him remained vacant until Ralph Hunt got land surveyed adjacent to him in 1772. James Benson's 100-acre land tract was left to his daughter Sarah. She and her husband Alexander Brown were already living on it in 1799 when James Benson wrote his will. He purchased a second tract of 300 acres, and was living on it at the time of his death. The only record of the purchase was the Memorial he filed on it on 19 Feb 1773. The land description says "300 acres on Little River, Anson County, N.C., summarizing a chain of title to a grant to Samuel Young of Sept. 25, 1754", granted by N.C. Governor Matthew Rowan. Other names on the abstract were John Benson, John Gordon, John Latta and Thomas Timings (Timmons). The other names indexed may be either adjacent landowners at the time of the 1754 survey, or intermediate owners of the property between grantee Samuel Young and purchaser James Benson. Much of the northern end of SC, including Union County, was also claimed by NC until a new survey in 1772 settled the boundary dispute between the two provinces. Rivers had different names at different times, or when referenced by different provinces. E.g., the Tyger River was earlier called Woodall River, and the Enoree River was Collins River. The Little River located in Anson Co NC was called Fairforest Creek in SC, so that's where James Benson was living from ~1773. Fairforest Creek originates near the city of Spartanburg, and flows southeastward through Union Co until it empties into the Tyger River. These two tracts of land, a 100-acre grant on the north bank of the Tyger River and a 300-acre purchase on Fairforest Creek, were probably located fairly near one another and just west of where Fairforest enters the Tyger in Union Co. There are other clues that the family lived around Fairforest Creek. James Benson's son-in-law, Jonathan Frost (who lived on Padgett's Creek), was a Major in the Fairforest (Loyalist) Regiment of Militia, under Col. Daniel Plummer. A man named John Benson was a private in the same regiment, in the company of Capt. Shadrach Lantrey/Landtrip. If he were a son of James Benson Sr., he apparently did not survive his father. The 100-acre grant to James Benson in 1766 was surprising, for a couple of reasons. That acreage is the amount for a single head-of-household, although Benson definitely had a wife and at least one child by then. Mary Benson Frost began having children in 1773, so was born well before 1766. So Benson had petitioned for less land than the amount to which he was entitled by headright. The surveying and recording fees varied by acreage, so some people chose to pay the smaller fees for less land. The second surprising thing is that James Benson did not petition for a Bounty grant, just a standard one. If born in Ireland, as reported by family tradition, he would have been eligible for a special grant with no fees attached to it, and no tax due on it for 10 years. Since he did not petition for a Bounty grant, he was most likely born in America (perhaps to Irish-born parents). Harriet Imrey On 6/13/2012 3:30 AM, Brenda Brazell wrote: > I found this site, don't know if anyone has seen it or not > > net.lib.byu.edu/fslab/researchoutlines/US/SouthCarolina.pdf > > It has something (sorry about the change in type, computer changed it when I did the link and I don't know how to get it back), anyway it has something on people having to do Memorials, will do cut and paste for that part, but the document is 58 pages long and has lots more. Correction, one of those pages that cut and paste do not work on. > > Brief summary: In 1741 anyone that had land after 1719 had to do a memorial. Can find at SC Department of Archives and History-copies available 1704-1775. FHL film 00232397-305, index on film 0023297. > > > Some can be found Katie-Prince Ward-Esker SC Memorials, 1732-1776 Abstracts of Selected Land Records from a Collection in the Department of Archives and History. > > 1784-1882 FHL film 022531-580, unclaimed lands when SC became a state. Index film 022531, Partially indexed Ronald Vern Jackson, Index to SC Land grants 1784-1800. > > I have only briefly scanned a few pages of this document. The above says page 9 if looking at the top of document saying page 9 of 58, but when looking at the page numbers at bottom of pages, it says page 8. This is in the right column. Lots more help on where to look for things in SC. > > Now all I have to do is learn how to use this information. Does this mean I have to go to where the records are? > > > Brenda Brazell

I found this site, don't know if anyone has seen it or not net.lib.byu.edu/fslab/researchoutlines/US/SouthCarolina.pdf It has something (sorry about the change in type, computer changed it when I did the link and I don't know how to get it back), anyway it has something on people having to do Memorials, will do cut and paste for that part, but the document is 58 pages long and has lots more.  Correction, one of those pages that cut and paste do not work on. Brief summary:  In 1741 anyone that had land after 1719 had to do a memorial.  Can find  at SC Department of Archives and History-copies available 1704-1775.  FHL film 00232397-305, index on film 0023297.  Some can be found Katie-Prince Ward-Esker SC Memorials, 1732-1776 Abstracts of Selected Land Records from a Collection in the Department of Archives and History. 1784-1882 FHL film 022531-580, unclaimed lands when SC became a state.  Index film 022531, Partially indexed Ronald Vern Jackson, Index to SC Land grants 1784-1800. I have only briefly scanned a few pages of this document. The above says page 9 if looking at the top of document saying page 9 of 58, but when looking at the page numbers at bottom of pages, it says page 8.  This is in the right column.  Lots more help on where to look for things in SC. Now all I have to do is learn how to use this information.  Does this mean I have to go to where the records are?  Brenda Brazell

see - this is why I stay tuned to this site. You all are so knowledgeable. Thanks for the specifics. Bev On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:22 PM, Poldi Tonin <toninroots@gmail.com> wrote: > The land records of the BLM is for federal land grants. Some states such as > Texas were state land grants. A portion of some states may contain federal > lands and be included in the BLM records. Virginia was a state land grant > as were many of the early colonial areas prior to the Revolutionary War and > the establishment of the federal government. > Poldi > > > > > > > On Tue, Jun 12, 2012 at 7:01 PM, Vivian <vivm2007@woh.rr.com> wrote: > > > Virginia land records are available at the Library of Virginia website. > > http://lva1.hosted.exlibrisgroup.com/F > > Many of the original deeds are online > > > > On 6/12/2012 7:39 PM, Nancy Hansen wrote: > > > Bev, > > > > > > When I search on Virginia, Tenn & Texas. I only get 1 or 2 counties to > > > choose from. Is that your experience? > > > > > > Nan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:sc-bushriverquakers-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Beverly > > > Rampey > > > Sent: Tuesday, June 12, 2012 4:22 PM > > > To: sc-bushriverquakers@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Brenda Brazell's request > > > > > > To check on where the land for your ancestor may have been, go to the > > Bureau > > > of Land Management, Department of the Interior's website and look for > the > > > state and then for the name. There are worlds of information there. > We > > > have tracked our ancestors' moves across from Virginia to Missouri by > the > > > land purchases they have made. We have also been able to get copies of > > the > > > actual purchase agreements which show the various Presidents who were > > > serving when the purchases were made. It's a great little piece of > > American > > > history. > > > > > > Bev Rampey > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -- > > "She is insane, of course. The family history has become a mania for her." > Hercule Poirot > > http://www.FrontPorchRockerNews.blogspot.com > > http://www.familytreedna.com/public/Langford > This project includes Lankford spelling also. > > "Truth and reason are eternal. They have prevailed. And they will > eternally prevail; however, in times and places they may be overborne > for a while by violence, military, civil, or ecclesiastical." > --Thomas Jefferson Thomas Jefferson, 1810 > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >