Hi Kay and group: looking at www.mapquest.com ..I see that Columbia SC is about 45 miles from Newberry and Charlotte NC is about 90 miles. I don't know about which would have a better deal for flights for you. Kay: I've sent you a mapquest link to the area so that you can take a look Others may have some thoughts on this.... JudyR ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:34 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Homecoming Preview -- Newberry,SC May 1... > Hi Judy, I'd like to come to South Carolina and meet all those "cousins". > I have a tentative reservation, now I need to know how to get there, where > do I fly how far is it from the airport? Thanks for any help you can give > me. K.Stager (My lines are mainly Inman, Coppock, Sinclair, Wall, > Leavel) > -------------- Original message ---------------------- > From: "Judith F. Russell" <[email protected]> >> As of now, we don't have any group functions planned for Sunday. >> >> Look forward to seeing you. Judy Russell >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:25 AM >> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Homecoming Preview -- >> Newberry,SC May 1... >> >> >> >I am getting ready to make reservations but not sure if there will be >> >things >> > going on Sunday, in which case I should include Sunday night in my >> > reservation. Will there be plans for Sunday? Brenda >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.9/1239 - Release Date: 1/23/2008 > 10:24 AM > >

As of now, we don't have any group functions planned for Sunday. Look forward to seeing you. Judy Russell ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2008 7:25 AM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Homecoming Preview -- Newberry,SC May 1... >I am getting ready to make reservations but not sure if there will be >things > going on Sunday, in which case I should include Sunday night in my > reservation. Will there be plans for Sunday? Brenda

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Excellent information, Frances. Thanks. I'll be using your strategies! Jane On Jan 22, 2008 12:17 PM, Frances J. Freeman <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Friends: > In planning a visit to the Friends Historical Collection at Guilford > College, be certain to ascertain beforehand the hours the Collection will be > open. The Historical Collection has its own staff, and is not always open > when the College Library is open. Their hours differ, and it is important > to check ahead. I checked with the Guilford College library, and planned to > spend two days working in the Friends Historical Collection. On arriving, I > found the Historical Collection was only open 4 hours over the two days, and > these four hours were not in a block. There was some problem with scheduling > of staff that necessitated the reduced hours of operation. > > The Collection was excellent. There were several volunteers who were very > knowledgeable and helpful. Interestingly, some of the staff were less > knowledgeable, and referred me to the volunteers for the guidance I needed. > > > When I go again, I am going to employ three strategies to hopefully > facilitate my research. First, I am going to be absolutely certain of the > hours for the Historical Collection so I can plan accordingly. Second, I am > going to spend time on-line at the collection > (www.guilford.edu/about_guilford/services_and_administration/library/fhc/qua > ker ) so I will be thoroughly familiar with the organization of information. > Third, I am going to correspond by e-mail with staff or volunteers regarding > the materials that are the focus of my research. They suggested that > advance information can help them prepare to assist a researcher. > > Hope my experience will help someone else. > Frances > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [email protected] [mailto:sc- > > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Pugh > > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:27 PM > > To: [email protected] > > Cc: Robert Pugh > > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS Digest, Vol 2, > > Issue 8 > > > > > > > > > It's true that the surviving original Bush River MM minutes are in the > > > Friends Historical Collection at Guilford College in Greensboro, NC. > > > They're also on microfilm there and were also recopied by hand in the > > > mid-twentieth century in an easier script for modern eyes to read. > > > Southern Quaker records-- past, present, and future-- are well cared > > > for there by their excellent archivist. Mr Wolfinger, when you do > > > donate your Bush River marriage document from 1799 for Elizabeth > > > Jenkins and Samuel Russell, I hope you'll gift it to them. (Our > > > Memphis MM send Guilford Library all of our minutes and newsletters on > > > the end of each year.)RLP > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Friends: In planning a visit to the Friends Historical Collection at Guilford College, be certain to ascertain beforehand the hours the Collection will be open. The Historical Collection has its own staff, and is not always open when the College Library is open. Their hours differ, and it is important to check ahead. I checked with the Guilford College library, and planned to spend two days working in the Friends Historical Collection. On arriving, I found the Historical Collection was only open 4 hours over the two days, and these four hours were not in a block. There was some problem with scheduling of staff that necessitated the reduced hours of operation. The Collection was excellent. There were several volunteers who were very knowledgeable and helpful. Interestingly, some of the staff were less knowledgeable, and referred me to the volunteers for the guidance I needed. When I go again, I am going to employ three strategies to hopefully facilitate my research. First, I am going to be absolutely certain of the hours for the Historical Collection so I can plan accordingly. Second, I am going to spend time on-line at the collection (www.guilford.edu/about_guilford/services_and_administration/library/fhc/qua ker ) so I will be thoroughly familiar with the organization of information. Third, I am going to correspond by e-mail with staff or volunteers regarding the materials that are the focus of my research. They suggested that advance information can help them prepare to assist a researcher. Hope my experience will help someone else. Frances > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] [mailto:sc- > [email protected]] On Behalf Of Robert Pugh > Sent: Monday, January 21, 2008 3:27 PM > To: [email protected] > Cc: Robert Pugh > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS Digest, Vol 2, > Issue 8 > > > > > It's true that the surviving original Bush River MM minutes are in the > > Friends Historical Collection at Guilford College in Greensboro, NC. > > They're also on microfilm there and were also recopied by hand in the > > mid-twentieth century in an easier script for modern eyes to read. > > Southern Quaker records-- past, present, and future-- are well cared > > for there by their excellent archivist. Mr Wolfinger, when you do > > donate your Bush River marriage document from 1799 for Elizabeth > > Jenkins and Samuel Russell, I hope you'll gift it to them. (Our > > Memphis MM send Guilford Library all of our minutes and newsletters on > > the end of each year.)RLP > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to SC- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know if this line of Russells has had a modern male Russell volunteer for DNA testing? It would be very interesting to see if this line matches some of the other early American Russells. My own family of Russells came to the USA in the 1870s, but the DNA matches some pre-revolutionary Russells. I've found it so interesting to try to find our common and ancient ancestor. I'm sending this to my Russell friends, also. Judy Russell ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith F. Russell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Marriage Document > John sent this message as an attachment first, then sent it to me as text > for inclusion here: > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > RUSSELL/JENKINS MARRIAGE DOCUMENT > > > > Whereas Samuel Russell (son of Samuel Russell dec'd) of Newburg County and > state of South Carolina and Elizabeth Jenkins daughter of David Jenkins of > the same place having declared their intentions of taking each other in > marriage before several monthly meetings of the Christian people called > Quakers on Bush River in the county and state aforesaid according to the > good order used amongst them. And having consent of parents and relations > concerned; their said proposals of marriage after a deliberate > consideration > thereof (they appearing clear of all others) were approved by said > meeting. > > These therefore may certify whom it may concern that for the full > accomplishing of their said intentions this ninth day of the fifth month > in > the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety nine. They the > sic Samuel Russell and Elizabeth Jenkins appeared in a public meeting of > the > sic people at their public meeting place on Bush River aforesaid and the > sic > Samuel Russell taking the sic Elizabeth Jenkins by the hand did in a > solemn > manner openly declare that he took her the sic Elizabeth Jenkins to be his > wife, promising through divine assistance to be unto her a loving and > faithful husband until it shall please the Lord by death to separate them, > and then and there the sic Elizabeth Jenkins in like manner openly declare > that she took him the sic Samuel Russell to be her husband promising > through > divine assistance to be unto him a loving and faithful wife until it shall > please the Lord by death to separate them, or to this effect. Moreover > they > the said Samuel Russell and Elizabeth Jenkins, she according to the custom > of marriage assuming her husbands name did as a further confirmation then > and there to these presents set their hands as husband and wife. > > And we being present at the solemnization of said marriage and > subscription > in manner aforesaid, do as witness here unto subscribe our names the day > and > year above written > > > Samuel Russell > > > Elizabeth Russell > > Sam Kelly Amos > Jenkins > > Robert ? > Mary > Jenkins > > Moses Evans > Elizabeth > Russell > > Robert Pearson Charity > Harben > > Edward Benbow David > Jenkins > > John Pearson David > Jenkins > > Ann Hollingsworth Ely > Jenkins > > Elizabeth Watson Ann > Russell > > Shelly Garantz David > Jenkins > > Abel Thomas Rosanna > Russell > > Samuel ? > William Jenkins > > Hannah Shelley David > Jenkins > > Isaac Hollingsworth Jesse > Jenkins > > Jemima Wright Mary > Jenkins > > Mary Oneall > Hannah > Kellys > > Abigail Oneall > Hannah > Jenkins > > ? ? > Enoch Jenkins > > ? Steddom > > > +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Wolfinger" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:08 PM > Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Marriage Document > > >> >> >> >> John Wolfinger >> [email protected] >> EarthLink Revolves Around You. >> >> Hello all, >> I would like to share the wording of this Bush River marriage document >> from 1799 for Elizabeth Jenkins and Samuel Russell. My mother, Mary >> Kathryn Pearson Wolfinger, has the original at her home along with >> Samuel's Bible. The document is in perfect condition and after her >> passing I hope to donate it to a Quaker library somewhere. Samuel is my >> maternal 4th great grandfather. He and Elizabeth joined the westward >> migration and settled and died in Miami County, Ohio. Elizabeth is >> buried >> in the Old Concord/Pearson Cemetery in Monroe Township, Miami County. I >> don't have a burial location for Samuel, but assume he is also resting in >> the same place. >> You may see some of the folks in your tree in the list of witnesses to >> their marriage. The handwriting is very difficult to read on some of the >> signatures, so hope I copied down the right names - the question marks >> indicate names I could not decipher at all. >> John Wolfinger - Atlanta, GA >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: >> 1/19/2008 >> 6:37 PM >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1234 - Release Date: 1/20/2008 > 2:15 PM > >

> It's true that the surviving original Bush River MM minutes are in the > Friends Historical Collection at Guilford College in Greensboro, NC. > They're also on microfilm there and were also recopied by hand in the > mid-twentieth century in an easier script for modern eyes to read. > Southern Quaker records-- past, present, and future-- are well cared > for there by their excellent archivist. Mr Wolfinger, when you do > donate your Bush River marriage document from 1799 for Elizabeth > Jenkins and Samuel Russell, I hope you'll gift it to them. (Our > Memphis MM send Guilford Library all of our minutes and newsletters on > the end of each year.)RLP

Vivian, Thanks for the great information! I'll plan accordingly! Jane On Jan 20, 2008 7:30 PM, Vivian Markley <[email protected]> wrote: > I can answer the estate and will records question with an affirmative. Also > the deeds are readily available. I went with a group last spring. It is > best to let them know ahead of time that you are coming. They allowed us to > use the record room alone and it has a copier and a large library table. We > went through the index, they pulled the documents from our list and then > allowed us to copy. We made a surname list for everyone in the group and > there were about six of us in the room working. I would suggest that if you > want duplicates to make them at the same time as that was a problem for us > and then getting them to others after the event did not happen. That was > disappointing. > > The land records are in a separate building but all of these are within a > few blocks of each other. > > At the local library they had a set of government books that I would love to > go back to go through. We did not find them until the day before I had to > leave. The group was there to clean up a cemetery but those of us who had > health issues did the research. > > I was so thrilled as I got to copy the original land deed of my > ggggrandfather Elihu and Ruth Coppock Julian for the sale of their land to > her sister who stayed in SC. > > Our organizer did a great job in letting the local offices and libraries > know that we were coming and I think it really gave us a lot more time to > just plain work. > > Both offices allowed us to copy and then pay but for the public library you > will want to find out how much and have lots of change. We did not use the > University library, I am not sure why not? > They had loads of stuff and we just scratched the surface in five days. I > would suggest that you leave any family histories or printed genealogies > till last and go through the actual records as you can probably get some of > that type of books through interlibrary loan after you get home. > > Here is a link to some of the resources. > http://www.newberry.scgen.org/resources.html > > I wish I could do it again with you all but I don't know if that would be > possible for me this year. If I do not need room reservations how late can > I let you know if I can make it. I might be able to talk my sister into > going down with me (we are in Ohio). Through the internet and genealogy, I > was reunited with a cousin that I had not seen in 40 years. He got > transferred to the south and he is now retired and lives in Newberry. He was > so shocked to find out that he retired to a town that was home to so many of > his grandfathers and he joined the Quaker Church when he was a teenage after > his mother died. He married a Baptist, so that is where they go now. > > Vivian > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jane gilbert > Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 5:35 PM > To: [email protected] > > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] research advice > > Thanks for the responses Judy and Marsha. The pain is subisiding and > I can actually use those fingers now. : ) > > I just dug up an e-mail I had received from the librarian at Guildford > College awhile back. I had forgotten she had including additional > information above and beyond what they had. It sounds as if they > might have the most comprehensive collection of records for Bush > River. Maybe I'll just stop there on my way down. > > "The surviving original Bush River records and use copies are in the Friends > Historical Collection at Guilford College. They are abstracted and indexed > in William Wade Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. > I. Some records (not all and not verified) are available on microfilm > through the LDS. I believe copies of these reels are also at the South > Carolina Archives. Photocopies of some Bush River records are also > available at Earlham College (Richmond, IN) and the Allen County Public > Library. See http://www.quakermeetings.com/meeting_view?anID=TST359L for > more information, including a list of what specific records exist for Bush > River." > > Does anyone know if estate and will information is available at the > courthouse in Newberry? Here in my county in Maryland, the records > are in big books at the Register of Wills in the courthouse. > > Thanks again. > > Jane > > > On Jan 20, 2008 5:13 PM, marsha moses <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jane and all. AFter reading your below message, I took a very quick > > look at the holdings of the LDS FHL using the keyword: Bush River > > Monthly Meeting. There are three entries that appear when one searches: > > > > One seems to be information found by a lady for William Wade Hinshaw: > > > > FHL US/CAN Film > > 255078 > > > > The second is: The Steddom reunion of 1916 (third annual) : with > > sketches of pioneer life, traditions, and incidents of family history in > > South Carolina and Ohio > > > > And the third One seems to be a book about the McDonald family who moved > > to Ohio from Bush River. This one is available digitally online and can > > be searced by surname: > > > > The McDonald family : early settlers in Wayne Township, Darke County, Ohio > > > > It is unclear if the first one is original information or a transcript > > of the original. Often the original records from the Quaker Monthly > > Meetings in the Carolinas are found In Guilford County, NC at Guilford > > College. I have looked at microfilm copies of many original records > > there, but I have never looked to see if there were Bush River MM > > records. And I have not looked at Hinshaw yet either. I'll try to look > > to see what Hinshaw has before the week is over. > > > > The Archives in Columbia are located at an exit from the interstate in > > an area with many motels and restaurants. You should have no trouble > > finding some place to stay. I often stay in the area without even a > > prior reservation. There are some places in Columbia that are a bit > > pricier and more unusual (but not as convenient) if you are looking for > > a more upscale stay. Marsha in WV > > > > > > jane gilbert wrote: > > > > >hi everyone, > > > > > >my apology for lack of caps, but i have bad burns on the fingertips of > > >my left hand so proper typing is a challenge right now. > > > > > >when i come down to newberry in may, it will be my first trip down > > >there. i'll be spending a lot of time doing research and could use > > >some advice on where the best resources are for what i need. i assume > > >the archives in columbia might in order. i'm going to want to > > >research records for newberry and surrounding counties (lexington, > > >edgefield, union) if that makes a difference. estate and will > > >records will be key, and i'd also like to see films of the bush river > > >mm records too (not abstracts). it seems the newberry family history > > >center is closed, so that doesn't appear to be an option. are the > > >bush river films permanently located at another nearby center? > > > > > >any input appreciated including maybe places to stay in columbia. > > > > > >thanks! > > > > > >jane > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John sent this message as an attachment first, then sent it to me as text for inclusion here: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ RUSSELL/JENKINS MARRIAGE DOCUMENT Whereas Samuel Russell (son of Samuel Russell dec'd) of Newburg County and state of South Carolina and Elizabeth Jenkins daughter of David Jenkins of the same place having declared their intentions of taking each other in marriage before several monthly meetings of the Christian people called Quakers on Bush River in the county and state aforesaid according to the good order used amongst them. And having consent of parents and relations concerned; their said proposals of marriage after a deliberate consideration thereof (they appearing clear of all others) were approved by said meeting. These therefore may certify whom it may concern that for the full accomplishing of their said intentions this ninth day of the fifth month in the year of our Lord one thousand seven hundred and ninety nine. They the sic Samuel Russell and Elizabeth Jenkins appeared in a public meeting of the sic people at their public meeting place on Bush River aforesaid and the sic Samuel Russell taking the sic Elizabeth Jenkins by the hand did in a solemn manner openly declare that he took her the sic Elizabeth Jenkins to be his wife, promising through divine assistance to be unto her a loving and faithful husband until it shall please the Lord by death to separate them, and then and there the sic Elizabeth Jenkins in like manner openly declare that she took him the sic Samuel Russell to be her husband promising through divine assistance to be unto him a loving and faithful wife until it shall please the Lord by death to separate them, or to this effect. Moreover they the said Samuel Russell and Elizabeth Jenkins, she according to the custom of marriage assuming her husbands name did as a further confirmation then and there to these presents set their hands as husband and wife. And we being present at the solemnization of said marriage and subscription in manner aforesaid, do as witness here unto subscribe our names the day and year above written Samuel Russell Elizabeth Russell Sam Kelly Amos Jenkins Robert ? Mary Jenkins Moses Evans Elizabeth Russell Robert Pearson Charity Harben Edward Benbow David Jenkins John Pearson David Jenkins Ann Hollingsworth Ely Jenkins Elizabeth Watson Ann Russell Shelly Garantz David Jenkins Abel Thomas Rosanna Russell Samuel ? William Jenkins Hannah Shelley David Jenkins Isaac Hollingsworth Jesse Jenkins Jemima Wright Mary Jenkins Mary Oneall Hannah Kellys Abigail Oneall Hannah Jenkins ? ? Enoch Jenkins ? Steddom +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Wolfinger" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 8:08 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Bush River Marriage Document > > > > John Wolfinger > [email protected] > EarthLink Revolves Around You. > > Hello all, > I would like to share the wording of this Bush River marriage document > from 1799 for Elizabeth Jenkins and Samuel Russell. My mother, Mary > Kathryn Pearson Wolfinger, has the original at her home along with > Samuel's Bible. The document is in perfect condition and after her > passing I hope to donate it to a Quaker library somewhere. Samuel is my > maternal 4th great grandfather. He and Elizabeth joined the westward > migration and settled and died in Miami County, Ohio. Elizabeth is buried > in the Old Concord/Pearson Cemetery in Monroe Township, Miami County. I > don't have a burial location for Samuel, but assume he is also resting in > the same place. > You may see some of the folks in your tree in the list of witnesses to > their marriage. The handwriting is very difficult to read on some of the > signatures, so hope I copied down the right names - the question marks > indicate names I could not decipher at all. > John Wolfinger - Atlanta, GA > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 > 6:37 PM > >

John Wolfinger [email protected] EarthLink Revolves Around You. Hello all, I would like to share the wording of this Bush River marriage document from 1799 for Elizabeth Jenkins and Samuel Russell. My mother, Mary Kathryn Pearson Wolfinger, has the original at her home along with Samuel's Bible. The document is in perfect condition and after her passing I hope to donate it to a Quaker library somewhere. Samuel is my maternal 4th great grandfather. He and Elizabeth joined the westward migration and settled and died in Miami County, Ohio. Elizabeth is buried in the Old Concord/Pearson Cemetery in Monroe Township, Miami County. I don't have a burial location for Samuel, but assume he is also resting in the same place. You may see some of the folks in your tree in the list of witnesses to their marriage. The handwriting is very difficult to read on some of the signatures, so hope I copied down the right names - the question marks indicate names I could not decipher at all. John Wolfinger - Atlanta, GA

I can answer the estate and will records question with an affirmative. Also the deeds are readily available. I went with a group last spring. It is best to let them know ahead of time that you are coming. They allowed us to use the record room alone and it has a copier and a large library table. We went through the index, they pulled the documents from our list and then allowed us to copy. We made a surname list for everyone in the group and there were about six of us in the room working. I would suggest that if you want duplicates to make them at the same time as that was a problem for us and then getting them to others after the event did not happen. That was disappointing. The land records are in a separate building but all of these are within a few blocks of each other. At the local library they had a set of government books that I would love to go back to go through. We did not find them until the day before I had to leave. The group was there to clean up a cemetery but those of us who had health issues did the research. I was so thrilled as I got to copy the original land deed of my ggggrandfather Elihu and Ruth Coppock Julian for the sale of their land to her sister who stayed in SC. Our organizer did a great job in letting the local offices and libraries know that we were coming and I think it really gave us a lot more time to just plain work. Both offices allowed us to copy and then pay but for the public library you will want to find out how much and have lots of change. We did not use the University library, I am not sure why not? They had loads of stuff and we just scratched the surface in five days. I would suggest that you leave any family histories or printed genealogies till last and go through the actual records as you can probably get some of that type of books through interlibrary loan after you get home. Here is a link to some of the resources. http://www.newberry.scgen.org/resources.html I wish I could do it again with you all but I don't know if that would be possible for me this year. If I do not need room reservations how late can I let you know if I can make it. I might be able to talk my sister into going down with me (we are in Ohio). Through the internet and genealogy, I was reunited with a cousin that I had not seen in 40 years. He got transferred to the south and he is now retired and lives in Newberry. He was so shocked to find out that he retired to a town that was home to so many of his grandfathers and he joined the Quaker Church when he was a teenage after his mother died. He married a Baptist, so that is where they go now. Vivian -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of jane gilbert Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 5:35 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] research advice Thanks for the responses Judy and Marsha. The pain is subisiding and I can actually use those fingers now. : ) I just dug up an e-mail I had received from the librarian at Guildford College awhile back. I had forgotten she had including additional information above and beyond what they had. It sounds as if they might have the most comprehensive collection of records for Bush River. Maybe I'll just stop there on my way down. "The surviving original Bush River records and use copies are in the Friends Historical Collection at Guilford College. They are abstracted and indexed in William Wade Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. I. Some records (not all and not verified) are available on microfilm through the LDS. I believe copies of these reels are also at the South Carolina Archives. Photocopies of some Bush River records are also available at Earlham College (Richmond, IN) and the Allen County Public Library. See http://www.quakermeetings.com/meeting_view?anID=TST359L for more information, including a list of what specific records exist for Bush River." Does anyone know if estate and will information is available at the courthouse in Newberry? Here in my county in Maryland, the records are in big books at the Register of Wills in the courthouse. Thanks again. Jane On Jan 20, 2008 5:13 PM, marsha moses <[email protected]> wrote: > Jane and all. AFter reading your below message, I took a very quick > look at the holdings of the LDS FHL using the keyword: Bush River > Monthly Meeting. There are three entries that appear when one searches: > > One seems to be information found by a lady for William Wade Hinshaw: > > FHL US/CAN Film > 255078 > > The second is: The Steddom reunion of 1916 (third annual) : with > sketches of pioneer life, traditions, and incidents of family history in > South Carolina and Ohio > > And the third One seems to be a book about the McDonald family who moved > to Ohio from Bush River. This one is available digitally online and can > be searced by surname: > > The McDonald family : early settlers in Wayne Township, Darke County, Ohio > > It is unclear if the first one is original information or a transcript > of the original. Often the original records from the Quaker Monthly > Meetings in the Carolinas are found In Guilford County, NC at Guilford > College. I have looked at microfilm copies of many original records > there, but I have never looked to see if there were Bush River MM > records. And I have not looked at Hinshaw yet either. I'll try to look > to see what Hinshaw has before the week is over. > > The Archives in Columbia are located at an exit from the interstate in > an area with many motels and restaurants. You should have no trouble > finding some place to stay. I often stay in the area without even a > prior reservation. There are some places in Columbia that are a bit > pricier and more unusual (but not as convenient) if you are looking for > a more upscale stay. Marsha in WV > > > jane gilbert wrote: > > >hi everyone, > > > >my apology for lack of caps, but i have bad burns on the fingertips of > >my left hand so proper typing is a challenge right now. > > > >when i come down to newberry in may, it will be my first trip down > >there. i'll be spending a lot of time doing research and could use > >some advice on where the best resources are for what i need. i assume > >the archives in columbia might in order. i'm going to want to > >research records for newberry and surrounding counties (lexington, > >edgefield, union) if that makes a difference. estate and will > >records will be key, and i'd also like to see films of the bush river > >mm records too (not abstracts). it seems the newberry family history > >center is closed, so that doesn't appear to be an option. are the > >bush river films permanently located at another nearby center? > > > >any input appreciated including maybe places to stay in columbia. > > > >thanks! > > > >jane > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks for the responses Judy and Marsha. The pain is subisiding and I can actually use those fingers now. : ) I just dug up an e-mail I had received from the librarian at Guildford College awhile back. I had forgotten she had including additional information above and beyond what they had. It sounds as if they might have the most comprehensive collection of records for Bush River. Maybe I'll just stop there on my way down. "The surviving original Bush River records and use copies are in the Friends Historical Collection at Guilford College. They are abstracted and indexed in William Wade Hinshaw's Encyclopedia of American Quaker Genealogy, Vol. I. Some records (not all and not verified) are available on microfilm through the LDS. I believe copies of these reels are also at the South Carolina Archives. Photocopies of some Bush River records are also available at Earlham College (Richmond, IN) and the Allen County Public Library. See http://www.quakermeetings.com/meeting_view?anID=TST359L for more information, including a list of what specific records exist for Bush River." Does anyone know if estate and will information is available at the courthouse in Newberry? Here in my county in Maryland, the records are in big books at the Register of Wills in the courthouse. Thanks again. Jane On Jan 20, 2008 5:13 PM, marsha moses <[email protected]> wrote: > Jane and all. AFter reading your below message, I took a very quick > look at the holdings of the LDS FHL using the keyword: Bush River > Monthly Meeting. There are three entries that appear when one searches: > > One seems to be information found by a lady for William Wade Hinshaw: > > FHL US/CAN Film > 255078 > > The second is: The Steddom reunion of 1916 (third annual) : with > sketches of pioneer life, traditions, and incidents of family history in > South Carolina and Ohio > > And the third One seems to be a book about the McDonald family who moved > to Ohio from Bush River. This one is available digitally online and can > be searced by surname: > > The McDonald family : early settlers in Wayne Township, Darke County, Ohio > > It is unclear if the first one is original information or a transcript > of the original. Often the original records from the Quaker Monthly > Meetings in the Carolinas are found In Guilford County, NC at Guilford > College. I have looked at microfilm copies of many original records > there, but I have never looked to see if there were Bush River MM > records. And I have not looked at Hinshaw yet either. I'll try to look > to see what Hinshaw has before the week is over. > > The Archives in Columbia are located at an exit from the interstate in > an area with many motels and restaurants. You should have no trouble > finding some place to stay. I often stay in the area without even a > prior reservation. There are some places in Columbia that are a bit > pricier and more unusual (but not as convenient) if you are looking for > a more upscale stay. Marsha in WV > > > jane gilbert wrote: > > >hi everyone, > > > >my apology for lack of caps, but i have bad burns on the fingertips of > >my left hand so proper typing is a challenge right now. > > > >when i come down to newberry in may, it will be my first trip down > >there. i'll be spending a lot of time doing research and could use > >some advice on where the best resources are for what i need. i assume > >the archives in columbia might in order. i'm going to want to > >research records for newberry and surrounding counties (lexington, > >edgefield, union) if that makes a difference. estate and will > >records will be key, and i'd also like to see films of the bush river > >mm records too (not abstracts). it seems the newberry family history > >center is closed, so that doesn't appear to be an option. are the > >bush river films permanently located at another nearby center? > > > >any input appreciated including maybe places to stay in columbia. > > > >thanks! > > > >jane > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jane and all. AFter reading your below message, I took a very quick look at the holdings of the LDS FHL using the keyword: Bush River Monthly Meeting. There are three entries that appear when one searches: One seems to be information found by a lady for William Wade Hinshaw: FHL US/CAN Film 255078 The second is: The Steddom reunion of 1916 (third annual) : with sketches of pioneer life, traditions, and incidents of family history in South Carolina and Ohio And the third One seems to be a book about the McDonald family who moved to Ohio from Bush River. This one is available digitally online and can be searced by surname: The McDonald family : early settlers in Wayne Township, Darke County, Ohio It is unclear if the first one is original information or a transcript of the original. Often the original records from the Quaker Monthly Meetings in the Carolinas are found In Guilford County, NC at Guilford College. I have looked at microfilm copies of many original records there, but I have never looked to see if there were Bush River MM records. And I have not looked at Hinshaw yet either. I'll try to look to see what Hinshaw has before the week is over. The Archives in Columbia are located at an exit from the interstate in an area with many motels and restaurants. You should have no trouble finding some place to stay. I often stay in the area without even a prior reservation. There are some places in Columbia that are a bit pricier and more unusual (but not as convenient) if you are looking for a more upscale stay. Marsha in WV jane gilbert wrote: >hi everyone, > >my apology for lack of caps, but i have bad burns on the fingertips of >my left hand so proper typing is a challenge right now. > >when i come down to newberry in may, it will be my first trip down >there. i'll be spending a lot of time doing research and could use >some advice on where the best resources are for what i need. i assume >the archives in columbia might in order. i'm going to want to >research records for newberry and surrounding counties (lexington, >edgefield, union) if that makes a difference. estate and will >records will be key, and i'd also like to see films of the bush river >mm records too (not abstracts). it seems the newberry family history >center is closed, so that doesn't appear to be an option. are the >bush river films permanently located at another nearby center? > >any input appreciated including maybe places to stay in columbia. > >thanks! > >jane > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

The Archives in Columbia is listed in our Bush River Cemetery book as among the places that have the Bush River Films. Check operating hours, since a while back that had to cut back on days/hours because of lack of funding. The Archives are a great place to do work for several different counties...Especially be prepared with the items you'll want to see. Things have to be ordered from the stacks and, also, you must order what pages you want to be zeroxed and sent to you. Most if not all of the holdings of the South Caroliniana collection at the Univ of SC are listed online, so you can be prepared in advance to request things from their stacks, also. Last time I was there, you had to fill out individual forms for each item you wanted...quite time consuming even though I had the printout in hand. jr ----- Original Message ----- From: "jane gilbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 20, 2008 4:38 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] research advice > hi everyone, > > my apology for lack of caps, but i have bad burns on the fingertips of > my left hand so proper typing is a challenge right now. > > when i come down to newberry in may, it will be my first trip down > there. i'll be spending a lot of time doing research and could use > some advice on where the best resources are for what i need. i assume > the archives in columbia might in order. i'm going to want to > research records for newberry and surrounding counties (lexington, > edgefield, union) if that makes a difference. estate and will > records will be key, and i'd also like to see films of the bush river > mm records too (not abstracts). it seems the newberry family history > center is closed, so that doesn't appear to be an option. are the > bush river films permanently located at another nearby center? > > any input appreciated including maybe places to stay in columbia. > > thanks! > > jane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.7/1233 - Release Date: 1/19/2008 > 6:37 PM > >

hi everyone, my apology for lack of caps, but i have bad burns on the fingertips of my left hand so proper typing is a challenge right now. when i come down to newberry in may, it will be my first trip down there. i'll be spending a lot of time doing research and could use some advice on where the best resources are for what i need. i assume the archives in columbia might in order. i'm going to want to research records for newberry and surrounding counties (lexington, edgefield, union) if that makes a difference. estate and will records will be key, and i'd also like to see films of the bush river mm records too (not abstracts). it seems the newberry family history center is closed, so that doesn't appear to be an option. are the bush river films permanently located at another nearby center? any input appreciated including maybe places to stay in columbia. thanks! jane

I've been reading all of the posts about the Coppock families. Just FYI, there are many Coppocks buried in Rosemont Cemetery in Newberry, SC. Right next to the Newberry College. I have NO OTHER info but this. These families are no relation to me. (at least not that I know of) Michael R. Sawyer, CST Researching: SAWYER/HALSTEAD/GRIFFIN/HOWELL/WILKES/LIGHTSEY and ABRAMS/POWELL/BLEDSOE/HOLMES/HILL E-mail is "Certified Virally CLEAN" using "Norton's Internet Security 2007

Your Homecoming Committee wants to let you know the things we are planning for the Bush River Cemetery Descendants and Friends Homecoming, scheduled for May 16th through 18th in Newberry, SC. All of the details are still being firmed up, but here's the tentative plans as they stand right now. First, we are excited to report that we have reserved the Dewalt House in downtown Newberry as our Homecoming Headquarters for the weekend. www.thedewalthouse.com We think this will give us a great place to meet, get acquainted, swap info, or just sit on the porch all weekend. We can use the common rooms for registration and registration materials, displays, etc. In addition to our lunch and dinner on Saturday, we have three group activities being planned: a reception at the Gauntt House on Friday evening, a trip to the remnants of the Great Wagon Road on Saturday morning and, of course, a visit to the Bush River Quaker Cemetery early Saturday afternoon. Later on Saturday afternoon, we are thinking that some of us will want to visit the Padgett's Creek Quaker Cemetery in Union County and the nearby RoseHill Plantation. Other activities for Saturday afternoon (or for any time you don't want to join in the scheduled group activity) could be visits to the Star Fort in Ninety Six SC, to the Library in Newberry, to the Carter and Holmes nursery, to the Archives in Columbia, to the Bush River Baptist Church and Cemetery. We also include sitting on the porch and swapping information, and looking for the Gauntt Cemetery under the power lines on the north side of town. We haven't had a chance to do this yet, so please check times for SC Archives and Newberry Library if you are planning on doing some research at those places. There are copy places in town if you find that you have lots of info you want to swap with fellow researchers on your families. At dinner on Saturday, we will have a presentation by three of our members about the Great Wagon Road and how our ancestors traveled to Newberry, plus a brief report from the Cemetery Committee. (And on a lighter note: Ann Crowley also reports that there is an 8:00 pm show at the Opera House on Saturday night...check the listings -- 50s music and Elvis impersonator.) We still need your feedback as we finalize the plans...let us hear from you. We hope to have the registration materials out in about a month. Judy Russell, Ann Crowley, Susan Webber Planning Committee

I am sorry to say that is all that I have. I will try to do you one better. My sister and her husband are Snowbirds in Florida right now but when they get back I will ask them to go over and take a picture for you. My brother in law loves to do this sort of thing and my sister will email it to us. It will most likely be quicker than waiting till I get over there. I am going through a bit of bad health with my kidneys right now but am expecting the best outcome. They come home in April which is getting closer everyday. May I ask where you live? The Coppocks are a confusing bunch. I am not sure why but I do not have Nathan in my data. I looked it up online and found parents as Isaac B Coppock and Hannah Baker, next generation Moses William and Martha Lester. I have Moses William and Martha Lester but I am very uncertain to their children. Do you know if there is a list of their children that is documented? Seems to be a lot of speculation that over the years is now appearing as fact. I descend from Rhoda Coppock daughter of Joseph Coppock and Esther Patterson who married Elihu Julian who is the son of Peter Julian Jr. and Ruth Pugh who descends from Ellis Pugh and Sinah. There are more Coppock marriages involving other descendents of this Ellis Pugh, so I am always on the lookout for new information from others that might solve some of the theoretical connections. Vivian Springfield, Ohio -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Forrest Plumstead Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 11:23 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Coppocks On Jan 18, 2008 9:05 PM, Vivian Markley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi again, > > I just went back to read the families buried in the cemetery and thought > this might interest someone > > " The first burial in this place, according to the inscriptions on the > grave-stones, was Lydia Hoover who died 14 April 1843, and the second was > Nathan Coppock, who died 18 June 1843." > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hi Vivian! Nathan A COPPOCK is my 2C5X. The information that I have on him is that he was born 15 Dec 1801 Place unknown Died 18 June 1843 Miami Co., OH thank you for that piece of information. Could you send me the rest of the inscription? -- Forrest Plumstead [email protected] PLUMSTEAD-L List master http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/p/plumstead.html Plumstead and Associated Families: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/ Military Kool Lynx: http://geocities.com/fplum/ Ham Radio WB5HQO http://forrest.3h.com/main.html Photos: http://myspace.com/fplum7755 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you for that information, Vivian. Nathan Coppock was my 2nd Great-Grandfather. He married Beulah May Waters on July 6th, 1823 and had five children that I know of: Philemon, Rosannah, Isaac, Jacob and Nathan, Jr. Nathan Jr. was my great-grandfather. Beulah May was born in Newberry S.C. and was from the well-known Waters family of South Carolina. Nathan and Beulah moved to Covington Ohio where (at least some of)their children were born. Roberta Coppock Keller -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vivian Markley Sent: Friday, January 18, 2008 7:06 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Coppocks Hi again, I just went back to read the families buried in the cemetery and thought this might interest someone " The first burial in this place, according to the inscriptions on the grave-stones, was Lydia Hoover who died 14 April 1843, and the second was Nathan Coppock, who died 18 June 1843." ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

On Jan 18, 2008 9:05 PM, Vivian Markley <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hi again, > > I just went back to read the families buried in the cemetery and thought > this might interest someone > > " The first burial in this place, according to the inscriptions on the > grave-stones, was Lydia Hoover who died 14 April 1843, and the second was > Nathan Coppock, who died 18 June 1843." > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > Hi Vivian! Nathan A COPPOCK is my 2C5X. The information that I have on him is that he was born 15 Dec 1801 Place unknown Died 18 June 1843 Miami Co., OH thank you for that piece of information. Could you send me the rest of the inscription? -- Forrest Plumstead [email protected] PLUMSTEAD-L List master http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/surname/p/plumstead.html Plumstead and Associated Families: http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~fplum/ Military Kool Lynx: http://geocities.com/fplum/ Ham Radio WB5HQO http://forrest.3h.com/main.html Photos: http://myspace.com/fplum7755