Thanks Marsha! I didn't know about this site either but it is a gold mine for those of us with South Carolina ancestors. Enjoy the granddaughters. You can rest up later. Been there, done that. Burnis Argo **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

Thanks to Harriet, I have become acquainted with the South Carolina Archives website. I thought that others might like to have the link to the will of Nehemiah Thomas in Newberry SC 1796. When I get time, I will also send the link for that of Abel Thomas if someone does not beat me to it. I am keeping my three year old and one year old granddaughters for five days....and am having limited time on the computer....but lots of fun! marsha moses

I have noticed several people talking about Timothy Thomas. I am trying to connect my Timothy Thomas to anyone else. My Timothy was born in 1780 and died on March 30, 1851 in Columbia, Richland Co. South Carolina. He was the grandfather to Mary Ann Hodge who married Daniel Muhlinghaus in Columbia on 1-16-1838. I am actually missing a generation. I found a short death notice about Timothy stating that he was staying with his grandson Daniel Muhlinghaus at the time of his death. It also states that he was formally from Newberry. He was actually Mary Ann's grandfather because I do have names for Daniel's grandparents and Timothy is not one of them. Also, Timothy is only 25 years older than Daniel but 38 years older than Mary Ann. He is also buried in the Ebenezer Lutheran Church Cem. beside two of Daniel and Mary Ann's children. I figure that Timothy had to be the father to Mary Ann's mother but I do not have her name. If anyone can help with this ten year puzzle of mine I would be greatful. Thanks, Pam [email protected] wrote: Marsha, I do not have proof unfortunately. The folks in Newberry have shared their family legends and thoughts. A gentleman named Bart Birkenbach (I think that is how to spell his name) is a descendant of Timothy Thomas who is buried in Giles Chapman cemetery. In 1784, John Dobbins received a land grant in Newberry County, 96 District, South Carolina. This land grant was located along both sides of Hall's Branch of the Bush River. Other land transfers also refer to Beaver Dam Creek which is to the south and west of Hall's Branch. {On a deed of Abel Thomas and his wife Mary, dated 23 & 24 aug 1774 of Craven County to John Millhous of St. Batholomew Parish, John Dobbins' land served as a boundary. Abel Thomas served as witness to will of Enoch Pearson, uncle of Phebe Pearson Dobbins.} Land records and wills located in the Newberry County courthouse show this land was sold to numerous individuals following John's death in 1818. In John's will probated in November, 1818, John's three sons, their wives, and his wife Sarah are mentioned and also signed as witnesses. Jesse Dobbins married Mary Mourning Mills, dau. of Rebecca and Aaron Mills John Dobbins married Phebe Pearson, dau. of Elizabeth Everington and William Pearson William Dobbins married Sarah--we have lost him in Newberry--no other info available I have seen a list of Isaac Thomas's children and no Dobbins marriage is listed. The only connection is the will of Nehemiah. However, John Dobbins, Jr. was born about 1785. That makes me think his parents were born 1750-1765. On a related note. The James Dobbins mentioned in will of Nehemiah is the brother of John, Sr. WILL BOOK L Pages 581-585 James Dobbins 13 Oct 1831/4 Jan 1833 1) Exc. to sell whole of my property as soon as possible after my death. 2) After payment of debts.. set aside $400 which shall pay to my daughter Dorothy Coate wife of John Coate. 3) All my wearing aparel before sale to my son John A. Dobbins except my second set of clothes to Thomas Dalrymple. 4) Money to be divided into 4 shares-wife Jennet Dobbins, son- John A., daughter Elizabeth Jenkins, and Dorothy Coate. 5) This present will is in agreement with a verbal contract made between me and my present wife Jennet Dobbins before our marriage. Exc; Thomas Dalrymple, George neall, Hugh K. Boyd Wit; Benjamin Neel, T.T. Sheppard, James C. Boyd Appr; John Harp, Israel Chandler, J. W. Summers. Buyers included John A. Dobbins and Mary Coat. Annual Returns of 41-90....1834...Jennett Dobbins, John A. Dobbins, Elizabeth wife of Zebulon Jenkins, Dorothy wife of John Coate Ruth **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Our POOLS went to Perry Co, AL, as well as Jefferson, Sumter, Hale/Bibb Counties, AL, etc. I am trying hard to make connections beyond the Rev Sol, John POOL, b. ca 1758...signed up for Rev War in Newberry. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Tucker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Lagrone-Leverett SC & AL I am a direct descendant of the Lagrone family of South Carolina and Perry Co., Alabama and would like to share my personal Lagrone family research. Chesley Leverett my g g grandfather of Anderson, SC moved to Perry County, AL ca1839. Chesley married Delilah Lagrone in Marion, Perry Co., AL in 1841.[1] By 1839 he is living in or near Marion as his signature as a bondsman is found on Daniel Dobbins' January 3, 1839, marriage bond reflecting Daniel's marriage to Anny Lagrone. Chesley's signature as bondsman is also on the August 24, 1839, marriage bond for Wesley J. Worell and Catharine Dunkin.[2] Chesley was 37 years old when he married Delilah Lagrone in 1841 in Marion.[3] He had come to Marion about 1839 from South Carolina and settled in the Old Town District. Many years later he was located in the Marion Beat. Chesley Livert [Leverett] and family are listed on the 1860 Alabama Federal Census for Perry County in the Western Division, page 118, Marion Beat, Marion Post Office. Along with Chesley, Delilah and the children, was Polly Lagrone age 70. Selected land ownership research was done in Perry County in an effort to determine if Henry and Mary/Polly Lagrone were the parents of Delilah. Henry Lagrone owns land in Perry County in 1835 and by 1860 he has 80 acres.[4] Mary Legrone, age 62, is listed as wife of Henry on the 1850 Alabama U.S. Federal Census for Perry County. Polly's age on the 1860 census schedule "fits" the Mary with Henry Lagrone on the 1850 Census. Research findings have shown that Polly is a nickname for Mary.[5] This research has lead me to the conclusion the named wife in each case is probably the same female. In an effort to prove Delilah's parent's names, and to locate the initial purchase of land by Chesley; another visit to the court house was needed. As a result of one of my 2002 research trips to the courthouse in Marion, I found a deed created by the heirs of Henry Lagrone, deceased, which read ". our beloved father ." this document left no doubt that Henry was Delilah's father.[6] This deed was recorded 30 years later in 1903![7] I sincerely hope this will help some of you Lagrone/Dobbins researchers. Charlotte -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Marriage Record Book 1840-1857. Certificate #1252. Office of Probate Court, Perry County Court House, Marion, Alabama. [2]. Original marriage bonds for Perry County, Alabama are held in Montgomery, Alabama Department of Archives and History. [3]. Marriage Record Book 1840-1857. Certificate #1252. Office of Probate Court, Perry County Court House, Marion, Alabama. [4]. Bureau of Land Management Internet Web Site. http/www.glorecords.blm.gov/ [5].Barbara Jean Evans, A TO ZAX A Comprehensive Dictionary for Genealogists & Historians. Alexandria, VA, Hearthside Press, 1995. Page 298. [6] Mortgage and Deed Record Book 125, page 80. "4th December 1874: . between the legatees of our beloved father Henry Lagrone, deceased, we the legatees . to . Washington Dobbins all of Perry County, Alabama, . sum of 68 dollars . 40 acres . SE ¼ SE ¼ S 30 T20 R8E and 10 acres of the SE of the NE ¼ of SE ¼ S30 T 20 R8E . Greenville . "Signed Chesley Leverett, Delilah Leverett, G. M. Lagrone, Martha, X her mark, Lagrone and William Taylor." Deed recorded July 13, 1903. William Taylor married Mary Lagrone on July 28, 1846. See Marriage Record #1835 in the 1840-1857 marriage book located in the courthouse in Marion. [7] Ibid. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have a paper file showing our connections to the LaGrones of Newberry District, but have to go to a celebration at 5:00 p. m. today. I would like to share if you are interested. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Tucker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 12:42 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Lagrone-Leverett SC & AL I am a direct descendant of the Lagrone family of South Carolina and Perry Co., Alabama and would like to share my personal Lagrone family research. Chesley Leverett my g g grandfather of Anderson, SC moved to Perry County, AL ca1839. Chesley married Delilah Lagrone in Marion, Perry Co., AL in 1841.[1] By 1839 he is living in or near Marion as his signature as a bondsman is found on Daniel Dobbins' January 3, 1839, marriage bond reflecting Daniel's marriage to Anny Lagrone. Chesley's signature as bondsman is also on the August 24, 1839, marriage bond for Wesley J. Worell and Catharine Dunkin.[2] Chesley was 37 years old when he married Delilah Lagrone in 1841 in Marion.[3] He had come to Marion about 1839 from South Carolina and settled in the Old Town District. Many years later he was located in the Marion Beat. Chesley Livert [Leverett] and family are listed on the 1860 Alabama Federal Census for Perry County in the Western Division, page 118, Marion Beat, Marion Post Office. Along with Chesley, Delilah and the children, was Polly Lagrone age 70. Selected land ownership research was done in Perry County in an effort to determine if Henry and Mary/Polly Lagrone were the parents of Delilah. Henry Lagrone owns land in Perry County in 1835 and by 1860 he has 80 acres.[4] Mary Legrone, age 62, is listed as wife of Henry on the 1850 Alabama U.S. Federal Census for Perry County. Polly's age on the 1860 census schedule "fits" the Mary with Henry Lagrone on the 1850 Census. Research findings have shown that Polly is a nickname for Mary.[5] This research has lead me to the conclusion the named wife in each case is probably the same female. In an effort to prove Delilah's parent's names, and to locate the initial purchase of land by Chesley; another visit to the court house was needed. As a result of one of my 2002 research trips to the courthouse in Marion, I found a deed created by the heirs of Henry Lagrone, deceased, which read ". our beloved father ." this document left no doubt that Henry was Delilah's father.[6] This deed was recorded 30 years later in 1903![7] I sincerely hope this will help some of you Lagrone/Dobbins researchers. Charlotte -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Marriage Record Book 1840-1857. Certificate #1252. Office of Probate Court, Perry County Court House, Marion, Alabama. [2]. Original marriage bonds for Perry County, Alabama are held in Montgomery, Alabama Department of Archives and History. [3]. Marriage Record Book 1840-1857. Certificate #1252. Office of Probate Court, Perry County Court House, Marion, Alabama. [4]. Bureau of Land Management Internet Web Site. http/www.glorecords.blm.gov/ [5].Barbara Jean Evans, A TO ZAX A Comprehensive Dictionary for Genealogists & Historians. Alexandria, VA, Hearthside Press, 1995. Page 298. [6] Mortgage and Deed Record Book 125, page 80. "4th December 1874: . between the legatees of our beloved father Henry Lagrone, deceased, we the legatees . to . Washington Dobbins all of Perry County, Alabama, . sum of 68 dollars . 40 acres . SE ¼ SE ¼ S 30 T20 R8E and 10 acres of the SE of the NE ¼ of SE ¼ S30 T 20 R8E . Greenville . "Signed Chesley Leverett, Delilah Leverett, G. M. Lagrone, Martha, X her mark, Lagrone and William Taylor." Deed recorded July 13, 1903. William Taylor married Mary Lagrone on July 28, 1846. See Marriage Record #1835 in the 1840-1857 marriage book located in the courthouse in Marion. [7] Ibid. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

You'll find a well-documented history of the Lagrone family of Newberry Co SC (including the Henry who moved to Perry Co AL) at www.dutchforkchapter.org/html/lagrone.html. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charlotte Tucker" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 14, 2008 3:42 PM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Lagrone-Leverett SC & AL I am a direct descendant of the Lagrone family of South Carolina and Perry Co., Alabama and would like to share my personal Lagrone family research. Chesley Leverett my g g grandfather of Anderson, SC moved to Perry County, AL ca1839. Chesley married Delilah Lagrone in Marion, Perry Co., AL in 1841.[1] By 1839 he is living in or near Marion as his signature as a bondsman is found on Daniel Dobbins' January 3, 1839, marriage bond reflecting Daniel's marriage to Anny Lagrone. Chesley's signature as bondsman is also on the August 24, 1839, marriage bond for Wesley J. Worell and Catharine Dunkin.[2] Chesley was 37 years old when he married Delilah Lagrone in 1841 in Marion.[3] He had come to Marion about 1839 from South Carolina and settled in the Old Town District. Many years later he was located in the Marion Beat. Chesley Livert [Leverett] and family are listed on the 1860 Alabama Federal Census for Perry County in the Western Division, page 118, Marion Beat, Marion Post Office. Along with Chesley, Delilah and the children, was Polly Lagrone age 70. Selected land ownership research was done in Perry County in an effort to determine if Henry and Mary/Polly Lagrone were the parents of Delilah. Henry Lagrone owns land in Perry County in 1835 and by 1860 he has 80 acres.[4] Mary Legrone, age 62, is listed as wife of Henry on the 1850 Alabama U.S. Federal Census for Perry County. Polly's age on the 1860 census schedule "fits" the Mary with Henry Lagrone on the 1850 Census. Research findings have shown that Polly is a nickname for Mary.[5] This research has lead me to the conclusion the named wife in each case is probably the same female. In an effort to prove Delilah's parent's names, and to locate the initial purchase of land by Chesley; another visit to the court house was needed. As a result of one of my 2002 research trips to the courthouse in Marion, I found a deed created by the heirs of Henry Lagrone, deceased, which read ". our beloved father ." this document left no doubt that Henry was Delilah's father.[6] This deed was recorded 30 years later in 1903![7] I sincerely hope this will help some of you Lagrone/Dobbins researchers. Charlotte -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Marriage Record Book 1840-1857. Certificate #1252. Office of Probate Court, Perry County Court House, Marion, Alabama. [2]. Original marriage bonds for Perry County, Alabama are held in Montgomery, Alabama Department of Archives and History. [3]. Marriage Record Book 1840-1857. Certificate #1252. Office of Probate Court, Perry County Court House, Marion, Alabama. [4]. Bureau of Land Management Internet Web Site. http/www.glorecords.blm.gov/ [5].Barbara Jean Evans, A TO ZAX A Comprehensive Dictionary for Genealogists & Historians. Alexandria, VA, Hearthside Press, 1995. Page 298. [6] Mortgage and Deed Record Book 125, page 80. "4th December 1874: . between the legatees of our beloved father Henry Lagrone, deceased, we the legatees . to . Washington Dobbins all of Perry County, Alabama, . sum of 68 dollars . 40 acres . SE ¼ SE ¼ S 30 T20 R8E and 10 acres of the SE of the NE ¼ of SE ¼ S30 T 20 R8E . Greenville . "Signed Chesley Leverett, Delilah Leverett, G. M. Lagrone, Martha, X her mark, Lagrone and William Taylor." Deed recorded July 13, 1903. William Taylor married Mary Lagrone on July 28, 1846. See Marriage Record #1835 in the 1840-1857 marriage book located in the courthouse in Marion. [7] Ibid. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 8.0.100 / Virus Database: 270.3.0/1502 - Release Date: 6/13/2008 7:25 PM

I am a direct descendant of the Lagrone family of South Carolina and Perry Co., Alabama and would like to share my personal Lagrone family research. Chesley Leverett my g g grandfather of Anderson, SC moved to Perry County, AL ca1839. Chesley married Delilah Lagrone in Marion, Perry Co., AL in 1841.[1] By 1839 he is living in or near Marion as his signature as a bondsman is found on Daniel Dobbins' January 3, 1839, marriage bond reflecting Daniel's marriage to Anny Lagrone. Chesley's signature as bondsman is also on the August 24, 1839, marriage bond for Wesley J. Worell and Catharine Dunkin.[2] Chesley was 37 years old when he married Delilah Lagrone in 1841 in Marion.[3] He had come to Marion about 1839 from South Carolina and settled in the Old Town District. Many years later he was located in the Marion Beat. Chesley Livert [Leverett] and family are listed on the 1860 Alabama Federal Census for Perry County in the Western Division, page 118, Marion Beat, Marion Post Office. Along with Chesley, Delilah and the children, was Polly Lagrone age 70. Selected land ownership research was done in Perry County in an effort to determine if Henry and Mary/Polly Lagrone were the parents of Delilah. Henry Lagrone owns land in Perry County in 1835 and by 1860 he has 80 acres.[4] Mary Legrone, age 62, is listed as wife of Henry on the 1850 Alabama U.S. Federal Census for Perry County. Polly's age on the 1860 census schedule "fits" the Mary with Henry Lagrone on the 1850 Census. Research findings have shown that Polly is a nickname for Mary.[5] This research has lead me to the conclusion the named wife in each case is probably the same female. In an effort to prove Delilah's parent's names, and to locate the initial purchase of land by Chesley; another visit to the court house was needed. As a result of one of my 2002 research trips to the courthouse in Marion, I found a deed created by the heirs of Henry Lagrone, deceased, which read ". our beloved father ." this document left no doubt that Henry was Delilah's father.[6] This deed was recorded 30 years later in 1903![7] I sincerely hope this will help some of you Lagrone/Dobbins researchers. Charlotte -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- [1] Marriage Record Book 1840-1857. Certificate #1252. Office of Probate Court, Perry County Court House, Marion, Alabama. [2]. Original marriage bonds for Perry County, Alabama are held in Montgomery, Alabama Department of Archives and History. [3]. Marriage Record Book 1840-1857. Certificate #1252. Office of Probate Court, Perry County Court House, Marion, Alabama. [4]. Bureau of Land Management Internet Web Site. http/www.glorecords.blm.gov/ [5].Barbara Jean Evans, A TO ZAX A Comprehensive Dictionary for Genealogists & Historians. Alexandria, VA, Hearthside Press, 1995. Page 298. [6] Mortgage and Deed Record Book 125, page 80. "4th December 1874: . between the legatees of our beloved father Henry Lagrone, deceased, we the legatees . to . Washington Dobbins all of Perry County, Alabama, . sum of 68 dollars . 40 acres . SE ¼ SE ¼ S 30 T20 R8E and 10 acres of the SE of the NE ¼ of SE ¼ S30 T 20 R8E . Greenville . "Signed Chesley Leverett, Delilah Leverett, G. M. Lagrone, Martha, X her mark, Lagrone and William Taylor." Deed recorded July 13, 1903. William Taylor married Mary Lagrone on July 28, 1846. See Marriage Record #1835 in the 1840-1857 marriage book located in the courthouse in Marion. [7] Ibid.

Marsha, I do not have proof unfortunately. The folks in Newberry have shared their family legends and thoughts. A gentleman named Bart Birkenbach (I think that is how to spell his name) is a descendant of Timothy Thomas who is buried in Giles Chapman cemetery. In 1784, John Dobbins received a land grant in Newberry County, 96 District, South Carolina. This land grant was located along both sides of Hall's Branch of the Bush River. Other land transfers also refer to Beaver Dam Creek which is to the south and west of Hall's Branch. {On a deed of Abel Thomas and his wife Mary, dated 23 & 24 aug 1774 of Craven County to John Millhous of St. Batholomew Parish, John Dobbins' land served as a boundary. Abel Thomas served as witness to will of Enoch Pearson, uncle of Phebe Pearson Dobbins.} Land records and wills located in the Newberry County courthouse show this land was sold to numerous individuals following John's death in 1818. In John's will probated in November, 1818, John's three sons, their wives, and his wife Sarah are mentioned and also signed as witnesses. Jesse Dobbins married Mary Mourning Mills, dau. of Rebecca and Aaron Mills John Dobbins married Phebe Pearson, dau. of Elizabeth Everington and William Pearson William Dobbins married Sarah--we have lost him in Newberry--no other info available I have seen a list of Isaac Thomas's children and no Dobbins marriage is listed. The only connection is the will of Nehemiah. However, John Dobbins, Jr. was born about 1785. That makes me think his parents were born 1750-1765. On a related note. The James Dobbins mentioned in will of Nehemiah is the brother of John, Sr. WILL BOOK L Pages 581-585 James Dobbins 13 Oct 1831/4 Jan 1833 1) Exc. to sell whole of my property as soon as possible after my death. 2) After payment of debts.. set aside $400 which shall pay to my daughter Dorothy Coate wife of John Coate. 3) All my wearing aparel before sale to my son John A. Dobbins except my second set of clothes to Thomas Dalrymple. 4) Money to be divided into 4 shares-wife Jennet Dobbins, son- John A., daughter Elizabeth Jenkins, and Dorothy Coate. 5) This present will is in agreement with a verbal contract made between me and my present wife Jennet Dobbins before our marriage. Exc; Thomas Dalrymple, George neall, Hugh K. Boyd Wit; Benjamin Neel, T.T. Sheppard, James C. Boyd Appr; John Harp, Israel Chandler, J. W. Summers. Buyers included John A. Dobbins and Mary Coat. Annual Returns of 41-90....1834...Jennett Dobbins, John A. Dobbins, Elizabeth wife of Zebulon Jenkins, Dorothy wife of John Coate Ruth **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

Are we talking about the Sarah who is a twin to Prudence? Do you have documentation on this? I descend from the Nehemiah McKinsey who is mentioned in the same will. I have tried and tried to connect the legatees mentioned in Abel Thomas's will with those named in Nehemiah Thomas's will. If what you are saying is true, it gives me hope that I have not been looking at unrelated families. This would be my first connection between the two. Abel Thomas mentions Sarah's twin sister, Prudence Hawkins, in his will. Oh, phooey....I see in the second paragraph that it is not positive that John Dobbins' wife is Sarah Thomas. I have a small data base that is VERY iffy. In it I have Abel, Isaac, Nehemiah, and Timothy Thomas as siblings.....I would be very happy to have someone prove me right or wrong. I'll add what you have mentioned. Do you mind sharing the names of the sons and wives mentioned in John' will? Marsha [email protected] wrote: >Sarah Thomas married John Dobbins--parents of James and John mentioned in >Nehemiah's will. The son of Sarah and John--also named John married Phebe >Pearson. John, Jr. and Phebe moved to Alabama. There are many Lagrone/Dobbins >marriages in the children and grandchildren of John and Phebe. > >Definite proof of Sarah and John has not been made. John's will dated Nov >1818 names his wife Sarah, their 3 sons and wives of the sons. > >Ruth > > > >**************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best >2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Sarah Thomas married John Dobbins--parents of James and John mentioned in Nehemiah's will. The son of Sarah and John--also named John married Phebe Pearson. John, Jr. and Phebe moved to Alabama. There are many Lagrone/Dobbins marriages in the children and grandchildren of John and Phebe. Definite proof of Sarah and John has not been made. John's will dated Nov 1818 names his wife Sarah, their 3 sons and wives of the sons. Ruth **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

Ruth, do you know which daughter of Isaac Thomas married Dobbins? And are you saying in this that the Dobbins son married a Pearson daughter? Thanks for your help. Marsha Moses [email protected] wrote: >I am not a Lagrone descendant but many of them married into the Dobbins >family. Dobbins married daughter of Issac Thomas and his son married daughter of >William Pearson. Another son married daughter of Hiram Keller. Dobbins, >Lagrone, Leverett and other families migrated to Perry County, AL about 1835. > >Ruth Dobbins Bennett > > > >**************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best >2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

I am not a Lagrone descendant but many of them married into the Dobbins family. Dobbins married daughter of Issac Thomas and his son married daughter of William Pearson. Another son married daughter of Hiram Keller. Dobbins, Lagrone, Leverett and other families migrated to Perry County, AL about 1835. Ruth Dobbins Bennett **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

Thanks Jane. I see Caleb GILBERT on deeds in Newberry District with PEARSONS, or rather, lives near them. In the Quaker book there is a Jonathan GILBERT, wife Hanameel......children: Cary, Benjamin, Beulah, Hepsbah, Achsah, Jonathan GILBERT, Mary PEARSON and Thomas GILBERT. Did your Jonathan stay with the Quakers? We also have PEARSONS in our families from Brunswick Co, VA, but I don't think they were Quakers. So many familiar names. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "jane gilbert" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 3:53 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] JANNEY/POOLE families of Bucks Co, PA > Audrey, > > For what it's worth, Caleb Gilbert was not a practicing Quaker as far > as I know. The only Quaker record I've found that even mentions him > is his birth record in Bucks County. Jonathan remained a Quaker into > his adult life, although he ran into some troubles with them in > Pennsylvania for bad debts. Even though he was never disowned in > records, only his wife's movements can be tracked from PA to SC. And > Jonathan certainly must have been disowned in SC if he hadn't been > already as he ran a tavern in what is now Gilbert, SC. > > Here's something I'll give you to chew on since I've gone nowhere with > it. You mentioned the name Dempsey Pool. There was a Dempsey > Gilbert in Newberry at one point, and I have no clue who he is. I > THINK he had a brother Thomas, and the two of them and their families > landed in Ohio. I have no source for them being brothers other than > geography, but I've entered them in FTM like that for convenience. > > Dempsey had a son Carey, so I'm sure he fits into our line somehow. > Dempsey was not a Gilbert family name, though, and I have no idea > where it came from. Perhaps it's indicative of a Pool/Gilbert > connection? > > Jane > > > 1 Unknown Gilbert > ...2 Dempsey Gilbert b: Abt. 1790 in SC > .......+Mibray Lester > ........3 Isaac Kirk Gilbert b: Abt. 1823 in South Carolina > ............ +Martha b: Abt. 1834 in OH > ........3 Asbury A. Gilbert b: Abt. 1826 in South Carolina > ........3 Carey F. Gilbert b: Abt. 1833 in South Carolina > ............ +Eve b: Abt. 1840 in Ohio > ...2 Thomas Gilbert b: Abt. 1793 in SC d: 12 Aug 1869 in Newberry > Twp, Miami Co., OH > .......+Edna Coppock b: Abt. 1798 in SC d: 09 Sep 1861 in Newberry > Twp., Miami Co., OH > ........3 John Gilbert b: Abt. 1824 in Ohio > ............ +Lucinda Unknown > ........3 Rachael Gilbert b: Abt. 1835 > ........3 Mary Gilbert b: Abt. 1837 > ............ +Peter Hartle > ........3 Margaret Gilbert b: Abt. 1842 > > > > On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Audrey E Pool <[email protected]> wrote: >> Jane, I see Caleb and Jonathan GILBERT in my little book of QUAKERS IN >> SOUTH CAROLINA, Wateree and Bush River, Cane Creek, Pine Grove and >> Charleston Meetings, BUT, notes are taken from Annals of Newberry, of >> which >> I have both books. James Holloway POOL, brother to Dempsey and Mitchell >> POOL, m. Mary ROWE, d/o Benjamin ROWE and Ruth O'NEALL, d/o one of the >> Hugh >> O'NEALLS...so, we definitely have marriage connections to the Quaker >> O'NEALLS. Because of these ties, I am guessing it is possible we could >> be >> part of the Quaker POOLES of Bucks Co, PA. I can't go beyond John POOL >> (RS). Thanks for sharing. Audrey >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "jane gilbert" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:48 PM >> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] JANNEY/POOLE families of Bucks Co, PA >> >> >>> Audrey, >>> >>> This won't help you any, but just to let you know, we Gilbert >>> descendants descend from a Janney line of Pownall Fee, Chester Co., >>> England. I've not started digging into them much yet, but Elizabeth >>> Janney married Lawrence Pierson/Pearson, and at least one of their >>> children (Edward) settled in Bucks County. >>> >>> The Pearsons and Gilberts you find Bush River records are from this >>> line. >>> >>> Jane >>> >>> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Audrey E Pool <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> I have to take part again. Is there anyone on this List who is a >>>> descendant of the JANNEY/POOLE families? Only recently I've been >>>> taking >>>> a >>>> renewed interest in this POOLE family of Bucks Co, PA. >>>> Does this information say the JANNEYS moved to Delaware from PA? >>>> If >>>> so, did the POOLES likewise? If anyone is familiar with these >>>> families, >>>> please share. >>>> There is another family of Bucks County, PA that is seen on deeds >>>> with >>>> these POOLES. That name is GRAYDON/GRADON/GRADEN. >>>> I am really INTERESTED to learn more if someone knows more than I >>>> do. >>>> Thanks ahead of time, Audrey >>>> >>>> >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "marsha moses" <[email protected]> >>>> To: <[email protected]> >>>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:40 PM >>>> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Louden County, VA >>>> >>>> >>>>> Oh, that is interesting. Thanks Phil! Here is what I found on a >>>>> http://www.waterfordhistory.org/ >>>>> >>>>>> It was in 1733 that Amos Janney with his wife Mary left their home at >>>>>> the falls of the Delaware in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, and came to >>>>>> live in the almost uninhabited neighborhood of Waterford. Other >>>>>> Friends, learning of the good land "at the Pertomock" came in with >>>>>> Amos, or soon thereafter, and an "indulged" meeting for worship was >>>>>> held at his house. >>>>>> The first Friends, or Quaker, meeting house was built of logs at >>>>>> Waterford in 1741. However, it was not allowed to become a monthly >>>>>> meeting - and thus was on its own, until it had shown 11 >>>>>> satisfaction" >>>>>> to a committee from its various quarterly meetings. >>>>>> All tests were passed eventually and, in 1744, a monthly meeting was >>>>>> begun named Fairfax, taking this name from the county which had just >>>>>> been formed from Prince William. Just in time too, for six couples >>>>>> requested permission to marry at the first monthly meeting. >>>>>> Waterford was known as "The Town" in our early days and the distance >>>>>> members would travel to go to meeting was astonishing. All Loudoun >>>>>> Quakers at that time belonged to Fairfax Meeting and people from what >>>>>> are now the towns of Hillsboro, Hamilton, Lincoln, and Philomont were >>>>>> members of the meeting at Waterford. Like folks of today, however, >>>>>> they had to be prodded occasionally for nonattendance. The minutes of >>>>>> 1762 state that a committee was sent "to visit (them) to excite them >>>>>> to more diligence." >>>>>> To us of the meeting, these historical records are of use in >>>>>> acquiring >>>>>> information on the mores of the day and for genealogical data. >>>>>> Fairfax >>>>>> Meeting members were cautioned against "joining in light company for >>>>>> dancing;" "delt with" for drunkenness; "disowned" for adultery and >>>>>> fornication; a man was "reproved for taking off his hat at a court >>>>>> martial to gain favor with officer in charge;" another, attended to" >>>>>> for encouraging the visit of a man "not in our Society in Courtship >>>>>> of >>>>>> his daughter." A committee on "Spirituous Liquors" kept demon rum >>>>>> away >>>>>> from the door and by 1809 there were no Friends selling spirits. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> There was also a photo. But your family information would fit well >>>>> with >>>>> the above. I have forgotten where your Hawkins family was living in >>>>> SC. Marsha >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Phil Hawkins wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>"So I am interested in knowing how many of our Bush River Quakers >>>>>>moved >>>>>>there from Louden County." >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>My Loudoun County, Fairfax MM, Hawkins (James & Martha (Hollowell) >>>>>>Hawkins >>>>>>and family were associated with Bush River for a short time until Cane >>>>>>Creek, SC was organized. They left VA about 1767. It would seem that >>>>>>maybe >>>>>>his brothers, William, John, Joseph, and Isaac, and sisters Mary and >>>>>>Hannah >>>>>>Hilton might have been located there in VA, but we have not found any >>>>>>records for them. They were all born in Bucks County PA. >>>>>> >>>>>>"It is said that James and family lived in Loudoun Co., VA, long >>>>>>enough >>>>>>to >>>>>>find that it was a good place to starve, this was by the records about >>>>>>12 >>>>>>years." >>>>>> >>>>>>Phil Hawkins, Administrator 10 June 2008 >>>>>>Hawkins Worldwide DNA Project >>>>>>Family Site: >>>>>>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hawkinsdnaproject/tree_g-1.html >>>>>> >>>>>>*** A 'Veteran' -- one who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a >>>>>>blank >>>>>>check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of >>>>>>'up >>>>>>to, and including their life.' *** >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Audrey, For what it's worth, Caleb Gilbert was not a practicing Quaker as far as I know. The only Quaker record I've found that even mentions him is his birth record in Bucks County. Jonathan remained a Quaker into his adult life, although he ran into some troubles with them in Pennsylvania for bad debts. Even though he was never disowned in records, only his wife's movements can be tracked from PA to SC. And Jonathan certainly must have been disowned in SC if he hadn't been already as he ran a tavern in what is now Gilbert, SC. Here's something I'll give you to chew on since I've gone nowhere with it. You mentioned the name Dempsey Pool. There was a Dempsey Gilbert in Newberry at one point, and I have no clue who he is. I THINK he had a brother Thomas, and the two of them and their families landed in Ohio. I have no source for them being brothers other than geography, but I've entered them in FTM like that for convenience. Dempsey had a son Carey, so I'm sure he fits into our line somehow. Dempsey was not a Gilbert family name, though, and I have no idea where it came from. Perhaps it's indicative of a Pool/Gilbert connection? Jane 1 Unknown Gilbert ...2 Dempsey Gilbert b: Abt. 1790 in SC .......+Mibray Lester ........3 Isaac Kirk Gilbert b: Abt. 1823 in South Carolina ............ +Martha b: Abt. 1834 in OH ........3 Asbury A. Gilbert b: Abt. 1826 in South Carolina ........3 Carey F. Gilbert b: Abt. 1833 in South Carolina ............ +Eve b: Abt. 1840 in Ohio ...2 Thomas Gilbert b: Abt. 1793 in SC d: 12 Aug 1869 in Newberry Twp, Miami Co., OH .......+Edna Coppock b: Abt. 1798 in SC d: 09 Sep 1861 in Newberry Twp., Miami Co., OH ........3 John Gilbert b: Abt. 1824 in Ohio ............ +Lucinda Unknown ........3 Rachael Gilbert b: Abt. 1835 ........3 Mary Gilbert b: Abt. 1837 ............ +Peter Hartle ........3 Margaret Gilbert b: Abt. 1842 On Thu, Jun 12, 2008 at 1:14 AM, Audrey E Pool <[email protected]> wrote: > Jane, I see Caleb and Jonathan GILBERT in my little book of QUAKERS IN > SOUTH CAROLINA, Wateree and Bush River, Cane Creek, Pine Grove and > Charleston Meetings, BUT, notes are taken from Annals of Newberry, of which > I have both books. James Holloway POOL, brother to Dempsey and Mitchell > POOL, m. Mary ROWE, d/o Benjamin ROWE and Ruth O'NEALL, d/o one of the Hugh > O'NEALLS...so, we definitely have marriage connections to the Quaker > O'NEALLS. Because of these ties, I am guessing it is possible we could be > part of the Quaker POOLES of Bucks Co, PA. I can't go beyond John POOL > (RS). Thanks for sharing. Audrey > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jane gilbert" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2008 12:48 PM > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] JANNEY/POOLE families of Bucks Co, PA > > >> Audrey, >> >> This won't help you any, but just to let you know, we Gilbert >> descendants descend from a Janney line of Pownall Fee, Chester Co., >> England. I've not started digging into them much yet, but Elizabeth >> Janney married Lawrence Pierson/Pearson, and at least one of their >> children (Edward) settled in Bucks County. >> >> The Pearsons and Gilberts you find Bush River records are from this line. >> >> Jane >> >> On Wed, Jun 11, 2008 at 12:37 AM, Audrey E Pool <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I have to take part again. Is there anyone on this List who is a >>> descendant of the JANNEY/POOLE families? Only recently I've been taking >>> a >>> renewed interest in this POOLE family of Bucks Co, PA. >>> Does this information say the JANNEYS moved to Delaware from PA? If >>> so, did the POOLES likewise? If anyone is familiar with these families, >>> please share. >>> There is another family of Bucks County, PA that is seen on deeds >>> with >>> these POOLES. That name is GRAYDON/GRADON/GRADEN. >>> I am really INTERESTED to learn more if someone knows more than I do. >>> Thanks ahead of time, Audrey >>> >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "marsha moses" <[email protected]> >>> To: <[email protected]> >>> Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 2:40 PM >>> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Louden County, VA >>> >>> >>>> Oh, that is interesting. Thanks Phil! Here is what I found on a >>>> http://www.waterfordhistory.org/ >>>> >>>>> It was in 1733 that Amos Janney with his wife Mary left their home at >>>>> the falls of the Delaware in Bucks County, Pennsylvania, and came to >>>>> live in the almost uninhabited neighborhood of Waterford. Other >>>>> Friends, learning of the good land "at the Pertomock" came in with >>>>> Amos, or soon thereafter, and an "indulged" meeting for worship was >>>>> held at his house. >>>>> The first Friends, or Quaker, meeting house was built of logs at >>>>> Waterford in 1741. However, it was not allowed to become a monthly >>>>> meeting - and thus was on its own, until it had shown 11 satisfaction" >>>>> to a committee from its various quarterly meetings. >>>>> All tests were passed eventually and, in 1744, a monthly meeting was >>>>> begun named Fairfax, taking this name from the county which had just >>>>> been formed from Prince William. Just in time too, for six couples >>>>> requested permission to marry at the first monthly meeting. >>>>> Waterford was known as "The Town" in our early days and the distance >>>>> members would travel to go to meeting was astonishing. All Loudoun >>>>> Quakers at that time belonged to Fairfax Meeting and people from what >>>>> are now the towns of Hillsboro, Hamilton, Lincoln, and Philomont were >>>>> members of the meeting at Waterford. Like folks of today, however, >>>>> they had to be prodded occasionally for nonattendance. The minutes of >>>>> 1762 state that a committee was sent "to visit (them) to excite them >>>>> to more diligence." >>>>> To us of the meeting, these historical records are of use in acquiring >>>>> information on the mores of the day and for genealogical data. Fairfax >>>>> Meeting members were cautioned against "joining in light company for >>>>> dancing;" "delt with" for drunkenness; "disowned" for adultery and >>>>> fornication; a man was "reproved for taking off his hat at a court >>>>> martial to gain favor with officer in charge;" another, attended to" >>>>> for encouraging the visit of a man "not in our Society in Courtship of >>>>> his daughter." A committee on "Spirituous Liquors" kept demon rum away >>>>> from the door and by 1809 there were no Friends selling spirits. >>>> >>>> >>>> There was also a photo. But your family information would fit well with >>>> the above. I have forgotten where your Hawkins family was living in >>>> SC. Marsha >>>> >>>> >>>> Phil Hawkins wrote: >>>> >>>>>"So I am interested in knowing how many of our Bush River Quakers moved >>>>>there from Louden County." >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>My Loudoun County, Fairfax MM, Hawkins (James & Martha (Hollowell) >>>>>Hawkins >>>>>and family were associated with Bush River for a short time until Cane >>>>>Creek, SC was organized. They left VA about 1767. It would seem that >>>>>maybe >>>>>his brothers, William, John, Joseph, and Isaac, and sisters Mary and >>>>>Hannah >>>>>Hilton might have been located there in VA, but we have not found any >>>>>records for them. They were all born in Bucks County PA. >>>>> >>>>>"It is said that James and family lived in Loudoun Co., VA, long enough >>>>>to >>>>>find that it was a good place to starve, this was by the records about >>>>>12 >>>>>years." >>>>> >>>>>Phil Hawkins, Administrator 10 June 2008 >>>>>Hawkins Worldwide DNA Project >>>>>Family Site: >>>>>http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~hawkinsdnaproject/tree_g-1.html >>>>> >>>>>*** A 'Veteran' -- one who, at one point in his or her life, wrote a >>>>>blank >>>>>check made payable to 'The United States of America,' for an amount of >>>>>'up >>>>>to, and including their life.' *** >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>------------------------------- >>>>>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>>[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>>>without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Judy, You have a JANNEY connection...? I am most interested. One of the members of the POOLE/JANNEY family of Bucks Co, PA, Benjamin POOL{E}(went to Loudon Co, VA MM), had a dau, Elizabeth POOL{E, who m. an Asa HOLLOWAY. This Asa was definitely a Quaker from a NJ to VA HOLLOWAY family. It is my belief that our Mahulda HOLLOWAY who m. John POOL (RS) may have a brother, Asa HOLLOWAY, but for sure one of the sons of Wm HOLLOWAY, d. 1784 Brunswick Co, VA. The fact that you too make a connection to the same HOLLOWAYS we do in SC may have some interest to me. I realize that all these families may not make a direct connection, but how far away from VA is PA? "Across the river and down the road!" So to speak. A lot of PAXSONS & GRIFFITHS in my Deed Book of Bucks Co, PA. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Judith F. Russell" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:52 AM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] JANNEY-POOLE families of Bucks Co.,PA >I see this web site which seems to be derived from the Miles book. >http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~paxson/griffith/Janney.html > > It seems as if it might be in conflict with the info that Jane Gilbert and > I have about our Janney connection, but I cannot access my notes right > now. > > > Judy Russell > ---- [email protected] wrote: >> This relates to a mailing dated 6/10/2008 from Audrey seeking >> information >> about the Janney and Poole families. >> >> I can trace my relationship to the Janney family in Cheshire, but I do >> not >> believe that I am a direct descendant of any of the Janneys who came to >> America. I have done a considerable amount of work in abstracting the >> early >> records of Friends in northern Delaware, particularly the records of >> Wilmington >> Monthly Meeting. >> >> There was a William Poole, b l728, d. 4 mo..6, 1779, son of Joseph >> Poole >> and Rebecca Janney, who brought his Friends membership certificate to >> Wilmington Monthly Meeting from Middletown MM (Bucks County) about 11 mo. >> 1st, 1753. >> He first married Martha Roberts at Wilmington MM on 6 mo. 27th, 1754. >> Following Martha's death on 2 mo. 26, 17 60, William married 2nd on 12 >> mo. 3, 1761 >> under Wilmington MM, Elizabeth Shipley Canby, daughter of William >> Shipley and >> Ann Tatnall and widow of Oliver Canby. >> Descendants of this William Poole were active in Wilmington Monthly >> Meeting >> affairs and in the affairs of Wilmington, Delaware for many years. >> However, >> they appear to have been city people and not inclined to wander off to >> the >> American frontier. This William Poole's father, Joseph Poole, was born >> in 1704 >> in Bromfield, Cumberland, England. He died in 1766 in Newtown, Bucks >> County, PA, son of William & Jeanette (Twentyman) Poole. ------ Rebecca >> Janney was >> a daughter of Abel and Elizabet Janney. Abel Janney was a son of Thomas >> Janney. My Poole family data seems to have been derived from _Colonial >> and >> Revolutionary Families of Colonial Pennsylvania_. There must be other >> Poole >> family genealogies. >> >> There seem to have been no members with the Janney name listed in Newark >> (Kennett) MM or Wilmington MM records in early northern Delaware, except >> for two >> boys, Abel and Levis Janney, probably both sons of Jacob Janney, who >> came up >> to Wilmington as apprentices in the later 1760's and early 1770-'s, >> returning with Friends minutes to Duck Creek Monthly Meeting, centered in >> Kent >> County, Delaware. ------- Many years ago, while I was employed in >> Washington, >> D.C., I attended a Friends Quarterly Meeting at Goose Creek Meeting near >> Lincoln >> in Loudon County, VA, the only surviving Meeting of the old Meetings in >> Loudoun County. I seem to recall many Janney names in the burial ground >> a few >> rods from the meetinghouse------ >> There is a small genealogy by Miles White, Jr, _The Quaker Janneys of >> Cheshire_, from which I derived much of my Janney data. >> >> ----- Herbert Standing. >> >> >> >> **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best >> 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Well, that was a very nice post on my query. I have a lot of this genealogy and one time even purchased some Quarterlies on the JANNEYS to see if I could find out more on the POOLES. I discounted them as ours, but when DNA was done on my husband, that took me back to Bucks Co, PA to the GRAYDONS (variant spellings) there. We are DNA matched with a marriage between a James POOL line whose son, Gabriel, m. an Elizabeth GRADON of Laurens District, SC. The very first record in my deed book for Bucks County, PA showing a James POOLE and Lawrence GROWDON (sic). Question: I wonder if this James POOLE was a member of the POOLE/JANNEY families...? I won't take more space now here now, but I sure appreciate your information. Thanks Judy, for allowing posts when I'm not sure, other than O'NEALLS, whether our POOLS connect with Quakers...but, getting closer to this idea. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 9:31 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] JANNEY-POOLE families of Bucks Co.,PA > This relates to a mailing dated 6/10/2008 from Audrey seeking information > about the Janney and Poole families. > > I can trace my relationship to the Janney family in Cheshire, but I do > not > believe that I am a direct descendant of any of the Janneys who came to > America. I have done a considerable amount of work in abstracting the > early > records of Friends in northern Delaware, particularly the records of > Wilmington > Monthly Meeting. > > There was a William Poole, b l728, d. 4 mo..6, 1779, son of Joseph Poole > and Rebecca Janney, who brought his Friends membership certificate to > Wilmington Monthly Meeting from Middletown MM (Bucks County) about 11 mo. > 1st, 1753. > He first married Martha Roberts at Wilmington MM on 6 mo. 27th, 1754. > Following Martha's death on 2 mo. 26, 17 60, William married 2nd on 12 > mo. 3, 1761 > under Wilmington MM, Elizabeth Shipley Canby, daughter of William Shipley > and > Ann Tatnall and widow of Oliver Canby. > Descendants of this William Poole were active in Wilmington Monthly > Meeting > affairs and in the affairs of Wilmington, Delaware for many years. > However, > they appear to have been city people and not inclined to wander off to > the > American frontier. This William Poole's father, Joseph Poole, was born > in 1704 > in Bromfield, Cumberland, England. He died in 1766 in Newtown, Bucks > County, PA, son of William & Jeanette (Twentyman) Poole. ------ Rebecca > Janney was > a daughter of Abel and Elizabet Janney. Abel Janney was a son of Thomas > Janney. My Poole family data seems to have been derived from _Colonial > and > Revolutionary Families of Colonial Pennsylvania_. There must be other > Poole > family genealogies. > > There seem to have been no members with the Janney name listed in Newark > (Kennett) MM or Wilmington MM records in early northern Delaware, except > for two > boys, Abel and Levis Janney, probably both sons of Jacob Janney, who came > up > to Wilmington as apprentices in the later 1760's and early 1770-'s, > returning with Friends minutes to Duck Creek Monthly Meeting, centered in > Kent > County, Delaware. ------- Many years ago, while I was employed in > Washington, > D.C., I attended a Friends Quarterly Meeting at Goose Creek Meeting near > Lincoln > in Loudon County, VA, the only surviving Meeting of the old Meetings in > Loudoun County. I seem to recall many Janney names in the burial ground > a few > rods from the meetinghouse------ > There is a small genealogy by Miles White, Jr, _The Quaker Janneys of > Cheshire_, from which I derived much of my Janney data. > > ----- Herbert Standing. > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Mark & List, According to several sources the number of children Isaac Cook & Mary Houghton had was 9. Dinah, b. 1737; Rebeccah, b. 1739; Eli, b. 1741; Ann, b. abt. 1743; Martha, b. abt. 1745; Isaac, Jr., b. abt. 1747; Mary, b. abt. 1749; John, b. 1751 & Amos, b. abt. 1753. The first 7 were born in London Grove twp., Chester Co., and the last two in Washington/Warrington twp., York Co., Pa. Washington and Warrington are adjoining townships. I believe Isaac lived long enough to aquire land in York Co., but soon after (1750-1751) died suddenly in Chester Co. and then Mary and her children removed to York Co., and later to South Carolina. Isaac had certainly died by 1759 as he is recorded deceased in Dinah Cook & John Wilson's marriage record from London Grove MM. I think the fact that he is recorded deceased here in Chester Co., shows direct knowledge of his death, that he died here. By 1750 two brothers, Peter & Thomas Cook, had already established themselves in Warrington twp., York Co., where both were founding members of Warrington Meeting in 1745. It is not a stretch to think Isaac wanted to join them. It sounds like the plan was in the works, when Isaac unexpectedly fell ill or was killed in an accident. According to land records, on June 11, 1750, Isaac Cook was warranted 50 acres in Washington twp., York Co., and according to New Garden MM, (Chester Co.) records (Hinshaw): 3mo. 25, 1751, "Mary (Cooke) & ch gct Warrington MM." >From Gilbert Cope's 1877 transcription of Warrington Monthly Meeting minutes comes the following: 3mo. 25, 1751 "Mary Cook produced cert. from Newgarden for self & children." pg. 23. 9mo. 21, 1754 "This meeting appoints James Treveler to assist the woman friends, Ann Collins & Mary Garretson, to draw a certificate for Mary Cook (wife of Isaac Cook, who intends to remove to some part of Carolina) and her nine children to New Garden Monthly Meeting, North Carolina." pg. 42 10mo. 19, 1754 "Cert. signed for Mary Cook & children" pg. 43 ------------------------------------------- Elizabeth & James Townsend were brother and sister, the children of John & Elizabeth Townsend. Notes by Albert Cook Myers show that James Townsend married Martha Cook, "at Cane Creek Mtg., SC, 4mo. 6, 1775, James s/o John and Elizabeth all of District 96, SC." The will of James Townsend written Jan. 26, 1797; proven Sept. 3, 1798 (Union Co., S.C. - W.B. A) leaves his wife, Martha, and 7 children, 5 daughters and 2 sons, the plantation. Eli Cook, John Cook & John Townsend execs. Hinshaw's EAQG vol. 1 - Cane Creek MM, S.C., under "Townsend": 10mo. 20, 1804, "Martha & ch gct Miami MM, Ohio" Hinshaw's EAQG vol. 5 - Miami MM, Oh., under "Townsend": 1mo. 10, 1805, "Martha & ch, John, Eli, Mary, Dinah & Ruth rocf Cane Creek MM, S.C., dated 11mo. 30, 1804" 12mo. 10, 1807 "Martha m James Coldwell" Hinshaw's EAQG vol. 5, pg. 42 - Miami MM, Oh., under "Coldwell" 12mo. 10, 1807 "James, s Joseph & Mary, Montgomery Co., O.; m at Elk Creek, Martha Townsend, dt Isaac & Mary Cook, Butlar Co., O." ------------------------------------------------ Elizabeth Townsend married Amos Cook at Bush River MM, N.C., 4mo. 12, 1775. Caesars Creek MM, Ohio records list 8 children of Amos & Elizabeth Cook, as follows. ----, --, --. Amos & Elizabeth Levi b 1776, 11, 16 Mary " 1779, 5, 11 John " 1781, 1, 28 Dinah " 1783, 2, 6 Amos " 1785, 10, 13 Stephen " 1787, 11, 14 Abraham " 1792, 4, 19 Ruth " 1794, 11, 12 Hinshaw's EAQG vol. 4, pg. 26 - Westland MM, Pa. 5mo. 28, 1803 "Amos Cook & w, Elizabeth, & ch, John, Dinah, Amos, Stephen, Abraham & Ruth, also Sarah Pennel, their cousin, rocf Cane Creek MM, S. C., dtd 1803, 2, 19." In "Cook Family News" 1904 by Allen M. Cook, lists 9 children of Amos & Elizabeth with the oldest shown as Ann. Caesars Creek MM records do not list an Ann Cook born of Amos & Elizabeth. I don't know if this is an error or if Ann died young and wasn't recorded. There isn't a gap between the marriage date and the birth date of their first child, Levi. I believe Ann not to be a child of Amos and Elizabeth. I hope this is helpful. Bob Cooke On Jun 11, 2008, at 8:54 AM, Mark E. Dixon wrote: > >>> My John and Elvira Cain Townsend left South Carolina and moved to >>> Warren >>> County Ohio, and later, Wayne County, Indiana. >> >> Not to go too far off on a tangent, but these messages reminded me >> that my >> Bush River "Cook" family intermarried with the Townsends. These >> marriages >> included two of the 11 children of Isaac Cook (1702-1773) and his >> wife, Mary >> Houghton (ca. 1712-1773), who seem to have moved to South Carolina >> about >> 1746. Their seventh child, Martha, was born in Chester County, PA, >> about >> 1745 and their eighth child, Mary, about 1747 in South Carolina. >> >> These Cook-Townsend marriages include: >> >> 1. Martha Cook to James Townsend, 6 April, 1775, at Cane Creek >> 2. Amos Cook (ca. 1749-aft. 1803) to Elizabeth Townsend, 12 April, >> 1775, at >> Bush River >> >> I'm interested in details of both these marriages. >> >> Mark >> >> P.S. I'm descended from Martha's and Amos' older brother, Eli Cook >> (ca. >> 1741-1828), who married Martha Hawkins at Bush River in 1772. **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

This relates to a mailing dated 6/10/2008 from Audrey seeking information about the Janney and Poole families. I can trace my relationship to the Janney family in Cheshire, but I do not believe that I am a direct descendant of any of the Janneys who came to America. I have done a considerable amount of work in abstracting the early records of Friends in northern Delaware, particularly the records of Wilmington Monthly Meeting. There was a William Poole, b l728, d. 4 mo..6, 1779, son of Joseph Poole and Rebecca Janney, who brought his Friends membership certificate to Wilmington Monthly Meeting from Middletown MM (Bucks County) about 11 mo. 1st, 1753. He first married Martha Roberts at Wilmington MM on 6 mo. 27th, 1754. Following Martha's death on 2 mo. 26, 17 60, William married 2nd on 12 mo. 3, 1761 under Wilmington MM, Elizabeth Shipley Canby, daughter of William Shipley and Ann Tatnall and widow of Oliver Canby. Descendants of this William Poole were active in Wilmington Monthly Meeting affairs and in the affairs of Wilmington, Delaware for many years. However, they appear to have been city people and not inclined to wander off to the American frontier. This William Poole's father, Joseph Poole, was born in 1704 in Bromfield, Cumberland, England. He died in 1766 in Newtown, Bucks County, PA, son of William & Jeanette (Twentyman) Poole. ------ Rebecca Janney was a daughter of Abel and Elizabet Janney. Abel Janney was a son of Thomas Janney. My Poole family data seems to have been derived from _Colonial and Revolutionary Families of Colonial Pennsylvania_. There must be other Poole family genealogies. There seem to have been no members with the Janney name listed in Newark (Kennett) MM or Wilmington MM records in early northern Delaware, except for two boys, Abel and Levis Janney, probably both sons of Jacob Janney, who came up to Wilmington as apprentices in the later 1760's and early 1770-'s, returning with Friends minutes to Duck Creek Monthly Meeting, centered in Kent County, Delaware. ------- Many years ago, while I was employed in Washington, D.C., I attended a Friends Quarterly Meeting at Goose Creek Meeting near Lincoln in Loudon County, VA, the only surviving Meeting of the old Meetings in Loudoun County. I seem to recall many Janney names in the burial ground a few rods from the meetinghouse------ There is a small genealogy by Miles White, Jr, _The Quaker Janneys of Cheshire_, from which I derived much of my Janney data. ----- Herbert Standing. **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102)

I see this web site which seems to be derived from the Miles book. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~paxson/griffith/Janney.html It seems as if it might be in conflict with the info that Jane Gilbert and I have about our Janney connection, but I cannot access my notes right now. Judy Russell ---- [email protected] wrote: > This relates to a mailing dated 6/10/2008 from Audrey seeking information > about the Janney and Poole families. > > I can trace my relationship to the Janney family in Cheshire, but I do not > believe that I am a direct descendant of any of the Janneys who came to > America. I have done a considerable amount of work in abstracting the early > records of Friends in northern Delaware, particularly the records of Wilmington > Monthly Meeting. > > There was a William Poole, b l728, d. 4 mo..6, 1779, son of Joseph Poole > and Rebecca Janney, who brought his Friends membership certificate to > Wilmington Monthly Meeting from Middletown MM (Bucks County) about 11 mo. 1st, 1753. > He first married Martha Roberts at Wilmington MM on 6 mo. 27th, 1754. > Following Martha's death on 2 mo. 26, 17 60, William married 2nd on 12 mo. 3, 1761 > under Wilmington MM, Elizabeth Shipley Canby, daughter of William Shipley and > Ann Tatnall and widow of Oliver Canby. > Descendants of this William Poole were active in Wilmington Monthly Meeting > affairs and in the affairs of Wilmington, Delaware for many years. However, > they appear to have been city people and not inclined to wander off to the > American frontier. This William Poole's father, Joseph Poole, was born in 1704 > in Bromfield, Cumberland, England. He died in 1766 in Newtown, Bucks > County, PA, son of William & Jeanette (Twentyman) Poole. ------ Rebecca Janney was > a daughter of Abel and Elizabet Janney. Abel Janney was a son of Thomas > Janney. My Poole family data seems to have been derived from _Colonial and > Revolutionary Families of Colonial Pennsylvania_. There must be other Poole > family genealogies. > > There seem to have been no members with the Janney name listed in Newark > (Kennett) MM or Wilmington MM records in early northern Delaware, except for two > boys, Abel and Levis Janney, probably both sons of Jacob Janney, who came up > to Wilmington as apprentices in the later 1760's and early 1770-'s, > returning with Friends minutes to Duck Creek Monthly Meeting, centered in Kent > County, Delaware. ------- Many years ago, while I was employed in Washington, > D.C., I attended a Friends Quarterly Meeting at Goose Creek Meeting near Lincoln > in Loudon County, VA, the only surviving Meeting of the old Meetings in > Loudoun County. I seem to recall many Janney names in the burial ground a few > rods from the meetinghouse------ > There is a small genealogy by Miles White, Jr, _The Quaker Janneys of > Cheshire_, from which I derived much of my Janney data. > > ----- Herbert Standing. > > > > **************Vote for your city's best dining and nightlife. City's Best > 2008. (http://citysbest.aol.com?ncid=aolacg00050000000102) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE Hello all, I have been looking through my grandfather's old genealogy stuff and found a reference to an old Herbert family bible. He said that the bible was held by someone named Walter I. Herbert in or around Newberry. There is also a transcripted family history that I only have the first page of, done by a D. O. Herbert from Orangeburg, SC in December 1929. I hope you don't mind me attaching it. Hopefully you can all read it. Does anyone know of these people and the bible that my grandfather was talking about? Mark Herbert Classification: UNCLASSIFIED Caveats: NONE