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    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] GILLIAMS
    2. Audrey E Pool
    3. The GILLIAMS were from Surry Co, VA. "Hinchy" GILLIAM is really Henshaw/Hinshaw GILLIAM. Most researchers are familiar with the Hinshaw Quaker genealogy. You may know this already - just passing along a bit of information. Audrey ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen Summers" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Keren Happuch > Ah! Thank you. This is all very interesting. I have, of course, found > many different spellings and originally I thought that > Happuch/Hoppoch/Coppock was a surname but then found it attached to other > surnames also so I began to wonder "Who was this Karen Happuch." Good to > know the story and the correct spelling. It might just help me track down > my Newberry families of Thomas/Justis/Gilliam. One family was supposed to > be Quaker but it might be that Gilliam was a second wife so there is a > mystery as to where the Quaker actually came in. > > Thanks for taking the time to answer my question. > > Kathy > > > On 9/25/08 6:28 PM, "Harriet Imrey" <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Keren Happuch is one of those rare names that identifies the family's >> religion. Every girl with the name was born to a practicing-Quaker >> family >> or named for a Quaker grandmother. Nobody used it except Quakers. >> You'll >> find the name in the Book of Job, Chapter 42, Verse 14. The three >> "replacement daughters" of Job, after all his first family had died, were >> called Jemima, Kezia and Kerenhappuch. >> >> The older established-religions required formal education prior to >> ordination and expected the seminary studies to include Greek, Latin and >> Hebrew. The ministers who read Biblical Hebrew knew that the names were >> part of a parable, and that people did not actually give their daughters >> those names in Old Testament times. Jemima means "warm and >> affectionate", >> Kezia(h) means cassia bark (an expensive medicinal spice, so >> health-promoting). Both of those names were used frequently--by all >> religions--in the 18th century. Keren-Happuch means cosmetic-horn, >> specifically a jewel-encrusted container made of ivory or precious metal >> to >> hold extremely luxurious eye makeup such as kohl or malachite. The >> Puritans >> and other denominations with seminary-trained ministers drew the line at >> that one: painted-up women were frowned upon, probably no better than >> Jezebels. Seminary education for ministers was neither required nor >> welcomed among the Friends of the day. Had they known that the word had >> connotations of "worldly, extravagant and ostentatious", they would >> certainly have avoided giving the name to their daughters! >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kathleen Summers" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, September 25, 2008 4:55 PM >> Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects >> >> >> Can you explain to me the proliferation of the name "karen Coppock?" I >> have found it in many parts of NC and SC and it's almost like a surname >> sometimes. I know it was connected with the Bush River Quaker meeting >> but I >> have never been able to determine the origin or how this name was carried >> through other families. >> >> Kathy Summers >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    09/25/2008 11:28:28
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. Kathleen Summers
    3. Can you explain to me the proliferation of the name "karen Coppock?" I have found it in many parts of NC and SC and it's almost like a surname sometimes. I know it was connected with the Bush River Quaker meeting but I have never been able to determine the origin or how this name was carried through other families. Kathy Summers On 9/24/08 8:58 PM, "Susan Rosine" <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have added the names INMAN and MARTINDALE to the British Quakers DNA surname > list (I already had Coppock). > > To all--Your surname does NOT have to be on the list in order to join. I doubt > I'll ever get every single British Quaker surname listed! But as I find them, > I add them!! You are always welcome to contact me directly with Quaker > surnames for me to add to the list. > > https://www.familytreedna.com/public/britishquakers > > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:07:01 +0000 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects > > Yes, I'd like to know where to go for the DNA test. I'm a descendant of the > Coppocks, Inman's, Martindale and who knows, they all intermarried a lot back > then. K. Stager > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/25/2008 10:55:30
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] One more day of DNA discussion
    2. jane gilbert
    3. Here's a link where you can see all the DNA mailing lists currently at available at Rootsweb: http://lists.rootsweb.ancestry.com/index/other/DNA/ On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 9:08 PM, Susan Rosine <[email protected]> wrote: > > Judy, thanks for letting us all discuss it! For those who want to continue to discuss QUAKER-DNA (any and all Quaker names from all over the world), there is a Rootsweb List where you can continue the discussion! > For those of you interested in genetic genealogy (DNA) in general, there is a Genealogy-DNA Rootsweb list. I warn you, it's really hard to follow for a LONG time if you're brand new to the world of genetic genealogy!! But after awhile it's great to read all the comments people make. I recommend the digest version as there are thousands of postings each month (really!!!) > A beginner's one is DNA-Newbie. > Many surnames have their own DNA discussion mailing list. Just do a search on Rootsweb Mailing list for DNA and whatever surname you're interested in. > Susan > > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:23:55 -0400From: "Judith F. Russell" <[email protected]>Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Only one more day of DNA? Maybe we should limit our general DNA discussions to correspondence between those who are interested? Let's have one more day (Wedsn, Sept 24) of general DNA discussion on the Bush River list. Thanks so much, JudyR > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    09/24/2008 04:51:47
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. Steve Pearson
    3. Susan, Is Pearson included? Steve Pearson ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Rosine" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 8:58 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects > > I have added the names INMAN and MARTINDALE to the British Quakers DNA > surname list (I already had Coppock). > > To all--Your surname does NOT have to be on the list in order to join. I > doubt I'll ever get every single British Quaker surname listed! But as I > find them, I add them!! You are always welcome to contact me directly > with Quaker surnames for me to add to the list. > > https://www.familytreedna.com/public/britishquakers > > Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:07:01 +0000 > From: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects > > Yes, I'd like to know where to go for the DNA test. I'm a descendant of > the Coppocks, Inman's, Martindale and who knows, they all intermarried a > lot back then. K. Stager > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    09/24/2008 03:00:57
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. Yes, I'd like to know where to go for the DNA test. I'm a descendant of the Coppocks, Inman's, Martindale and who knows, they all intermarried a lot back then. K. Stager -------------- Original message ---------------------- From: "john kennedy" <[email protected]> > re;DNA test. where is location to have test done?? > john k > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "marsha moses" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:56 AM > Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects > > > > I'll chime in here on the DNA projects....because I find them to be so > > much fun. I did my mtDNA (mitochondrial----mother to children--that is > > female line) in the early summer. It was very disappointing at first > > for me. I don't know what I expected. But what you get is hundreds of > > matches with such a variety of surnames that it is mind boggling. Then > > I bought Bryan Sykes' The Seven Daughters of Eve. And now I am > > absolutely fascinated! I descend from Helena. And now I am devouring > > Bryan Sykes' book on the Y-DNA called Adam's Curse. Honestly, > > run...don't walk to your local library or bookstore and get his books. > > They are an extremely entertaining read....if you don't get hung up with > > trying to understand every single detail. Then man is a scientist, but > > he writes like a storyteller. Now, that said, I have to admit that I am > > VERY interested in his subject matter. > > > > I have paid for many DNA participants for my various lines. I only wish > > that I could find a few more before the sale ends on Sept 30th. I am > > still working on a possible McKinsey for my Newberry County line. I > > actually have someone who knows that they descend from my McKinsey line > > who has cousins and uncles....but it is hard to convince someone not > > interested in genealogy to take the test even when they are not paying. > > Just thought that I would add my 2cents. marsha moses > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/24/2008 02:07:01
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] One more day of DNA discussion
    2. Susan Rosine
    3. Judy, thanks for letting us all discuss it! For those who want to continue to discuss QUAKER-DNA (any and all Quaker names from all over the world), there is a Rootsweb List where you can continue the discussion! For those of you interested in genetic genealogy (DNA) in general, there is a Genealogy-DNA Rootsweb list. I warn you, it's really hard to follow for a LONG time if you're brand new to the world of genetic genealogy!! But after awhile it's great to read all the comments people make. I recommend the digest version as there are thousands of postings each month (really!!!) A beginner's one is DNA-Newbie. Many surnames have their own DNA discussion mailing list. Just do a search on Rootsweb Mailing list for DNA and whatever surname you're interested in. Susan Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 12:23:55 -0400From: "Judith F. Russell" <[email protected]>Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Only one more day of DNA? Maybe we should limit our general DNA discussions to correspondence between those who are interested? Let's have one more day (Wedsn, Sept 24) of general DNA discussion on the Bush River list. Thanks so much, JudyR

    09/24/2008 01:08:41
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. Susan Rosine
    3. I have added the names INMAN and MARTINDALE to the British Quakers DNA surname list (I already had Coppock). To all--Your surname does NOT have to be on the list in order to join. I doubt I'll ever get every single British Quaker surname listed! But as I find them, I add them!! You are always welcome to contact me directly with Quaker surnames for me to add to the list. https://www.familytreedna.com/public/britishquakers Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 20:07:01 +0000 From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects Yes, I'd like to know where to go for the DNA test. I'm a descendant of the Coppocks, Inman's, Martindale and who knows, they all intermarried a lot back then. K. Stager

    09/24/2008 12:58:54
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA tests & Quakers
    2. Susan Rosine
    3. Sue, I'm hoping to answer YES to that question in the future. Right now the system will only allow me to input FTDNA test info. I am thinking of eventually using Worldfamilies to input my data. The project will still use FTDNA as its testing company, but I will be able to input results from all other testing companies. I will definitely post to this List and other Quaker related lists when and if I switch over to using the Worlfamilies site instead of the FTDNA site. The FTDNA site would still exist for viewing, but there would be the additional site with results from other companies. Susan Date: Wed, 24 Sep 2008 10:35:50 -0400 From: "Wyatt, Susan D." Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA tests & Quakers If one obtains their DNA report from another source, are we able to donate the resulting information to the British Quakers DNA project? Thanks, Sue Wyatt

    09/24/2008 12:50:13
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. I manage the Clan Donnachaidh/Duncan DNA project with Family Tree DNA. One Duncan project we are working on is testing the Duncan lines from Bush River. We are looking for proven male line decedents from Samuel and Nelson Duncan who were at Bush River. The new tool of DNA testing has been a very powerful addition to our genealogy research. A lot of progress has been made within the names of the Clan Donnachaidh/Duncan DNA Project. Tim Duncan Administrator Donnachaidh DNA Project ____________________________________________________________________ In a message dated 9/24/2008 1:23:14 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Before selecting a company to test with, I'd suggest you look at FTDNA: http://www.familytreedna.com Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Wyatt, Susan D. To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects Ancestry.com is having a special this month. You can go to www.Ancestry.com and you will see their advertisement for it, usually on the right side of the page. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

    09/24/2008 12:46:39
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. I agree. Most people recommend FamilyTree DNA group. Not only are responsible, but helpful! I would not use anything else! **************Looking for simple solutions to your real-life financial challenges? Check out WalletPop for the latest news and information, tips and calculators. (http://www.walletpop.com/?NCID=emlcntuswall00000001)

    09/24/2008 12:20:52
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects -where?
    2. Anne Crocker
    3. Go to the link for familytreedna.com below and plug in your surname to see if a surname project already exists. Or do a bit of googling to see if there's already a project underway with another company. If not, join the BritishQuakers project below to get the project discount rates and support from like-minded researchers. https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=N55947&special=true FamilyTreeDNA.com is also having a special rate reduction through the end of September. It may possibly be extended, since the head office (not the labs) is in Houston, but I wouldn't count on it. The best kit to order is the Y-DNA 37 marker kit for your oldest generation living (of course!) male who bears the targeted surname. You can see the rates by going to the link for BritishQuakers above, scroll down into the application section of the page and look at the TYPE OF TEST menu. Anne Dodd/Dodds project administrator at FamilyTreeDNA.com On Sep 24, 2008, at 4:21 PM, Joy King wrote: > Before selecting a company to test with, I'd suggest you look at > FTDNA: > http://www.familytreedna.com > > Joy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wyatt, Susan D. > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:20 PM > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects > > > Ancestry.com is having a special this month. You can go to > www.Ancestry.com and you will see their advertisement for it, > usually on > the right side of the page. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

    09/24/2008 10:52:16
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] mtDNA, Surname, Welsh, and Quaker projects
    2. jane gilbert
    3. Hi Susan, I'm afraid all my Quaker lines are on my dad's side, but I think I have them all in the British Quakers which probably isn't too meaningful. I have seven exact matches at HVR1 and HVR2. People always contact me when they see the match, but of course our maternal lines are all over Europe. Good luck with your FGS! Jane On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 10:30 AM, Susan Rosine <[email protected]> wrote: > > Jane, I agree with you about 99.9%!! I have had the FGS (full genome sequence) of my uncle's mtDNA done (which should match mine; I'm still waiting for my results), and he matches one other man's mtDNA exactly. FTDNA says this is roughly equal to a 37/37 Y-DNA match and we should be able to find our common ancestor. We DON'T have common mutations for this haplogroup. The other man and I have been in correspondence, and we are both stuck in our research around the same time/same place....so probably we connect within a generation or two in there someplace....we just need more research to find our link. However, I would say until many more people do the complete FGS for their mtDNA, it is useless for genealogical purposes. However, like you, I find it fascinating to know more about my ancient ancestors from this test. By the way, if your direct MATERNAL line is Quaker, you are also welcome to join the British Quaker project. We have quite a few mtDNA results posted there, bu! t ! > of course the surname on there are useless since they change each generation. I'm hoping to improve the mtDNA part of the site to make it more useful to everyone. > > > Susan > > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 13:44:34 -0400 > From: "jane gilbert" > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Surname, welsh, and Quaker > projects! > > If I can just comment on the mtDNA issue a little... > > mtDNA is all but useless for genealogy except in very specific > circumstances where a maternal relationship is suspected, but can't be > proven, and qualified donor descendants have been identified. > > mtDNA doesn't mutate anywhere nearly as readily as Y-DNA, so an exact > match with mtDNA even at the high resolution level could mean you have > a common maternal ancestor dating back thousands of years. From the > Family Tree DNA website on this subject: > > "A high resolution match occurs when two individuals have exactly the > same sequence in both the HVR1 and HVR2. High resolution matches are > the ones which are more likely to be related within a genealogical > time frame. A high resolution match has about a 50% chance of sharing > a common ancestor within the last 28 generations (about 700 years)." > > That's only a 50/50 chance that you have a common maternal ancestor in > 28 generations! I don't know about you, but I'm nowhere close to have > my maternal line back 700 years. > > To make matters worse in my case, I've had the Full Genome Sequence > done on my mtDNA (the absolute highest resolution possible), and my > mtDNA has not incurred any mutations in an estimated 6000 years. My > mtDNA reflects (unchanged) the mtDNA of the H1a "clan mother" who > lived about that long ago somewhere in Europe. Her ancestor Helena, > the clan mother of the entire H clan, lived about 20,000 years ago in > south central France. > > Bottom line, mtDNA should be considered more of a test to satisfy your > curiosity of your deep maternal ancestral roots versus being of any > genealogical significance. > > Jane > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    09/24/2008 10:46:17
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. jane gilbert
    3. Ancestry.com web support for DNA is very poor for administrators and users in my opinion. I've been pulling my hair out trying to round up stragglers who tested through them not knowing about the "big" Gilbert DNA project. In my opinion, if you're a male, the best bang for the buck right now is the 37 marker test from Family Tree DNA that's discounted through the end of the month. A man's Y-DNA is ONLY applicable to a surname project for his last name (in theory), so you'd want to go to the Family Tree DNA website and see if there's a surname project running for the surname. If there's no project, that complicates things a little, but there are ways around it. If anyone wants to have a Y-DNA test performed on themselves or a male in the family, I'll be happy to help you through the process, including letting you test through the Gilbert project to get the project discount if no surname project exists for your surname. Feel free to contact me offline. Jane Gilbert Admin of three Y-DNA projects... On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:21 PM, Joy King <[email protected]> wrote: > Before selecting a company to test with, I'd suggest you look at FTDNA: > http://www.familytreedna.com > > Joy > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Wyatt, Susan D. > To: [email protected] > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:20 PM > Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects > > > Ancestry.com is having a special this month. You can go to > www.Ancestry.com and you will see their advertisement for it, usually on > the right side of the page. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    09/24/2008 10:41:23
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. Joy King
    3. Before selecting a company to test with, I'd suggest you look at FTDNA: http://www.familytreedna.com Joy ----- Original Message ----- From: Wyatt, Susan D. To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:20 PM Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects Ancestry.com is having a special this month. You can go to www.Ancestry.com and you will see their advertisement for it, usually on the right side of the page.

    09/24/2008 10:21:51
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] List of DNA projects--Bush River Quaker related
    2. Susan Rosine
    3. Anne, I will add the surname DODD to the BritishQuakers project list. Would you be able to have at least one of the Dodd men join my project? It's free to them and they could still stay with the Dodd project. That's assuming it's a project through FTDNA of course. Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:51:17 -0400From: Anne Crocker <[email protected]>Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] List of DNA projects--Bush riverQuakerrelated Dodd:Patriarch William came from Kennett, Chester, PA, to northern neck, VA, ca 1741 where he joined Fairfax MM.We have DNA from descendants of William's four sonsEdward of Hopewell MM, VA (to Greene Co., TN);John of Loudoun, VA;Thomas and Jesse of Bush River MM (Padgett's Creek), SC.Thomas had land in Newberry ca 1766 then brought father (probably) and 3 siblings down to settle in Union, SC, around Padgett's Creek MM An Elleman bought Thomas Dodd's Newberry land. Anne Crockernow living in Concord, NC

    09/24/2008 09:06:42
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. Susan Rosine
    3. First you have to decide which DNA testing company you want to use!! I've always used FamilyTreeDNA (FTDNA) so that's all I know about. With them, first see if they have a project set up for your surname. If they do, order your kit through the project, and you'll get their best price. If there is not a surname project, you can order a kit anyway, but it will cost more. IF YOUR DIRECT MATERNAL OR PATERNAL LINE WAS QUAKER, YOU CAN GO TO THIS PAGE TO ORDER YOUR TEST, AND GET THE BEST FTDNA PRICE (AND A SPECIAL PRICE GOING ON THRU SEPT 30): https://www.familytreedna.com/surname_join.aspx?code=N55947&special=true To look up your surname, go to: http://www.familytreedna.com/default.aspx? I'm sure others will tell you about the other testing companies. I administer the BritishQuaker DNA project, by the way, so feel free to contact me offlist with questions. If you've traced your family back to the South Carolina Quakers, but are not sure if they came from the British Isles or not, you can still join the project, and I will add your results under "British Colonies". That applies to any State that was a British Colony!!! Susan

    09/24/2008 08:35:31
    1. [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] Only one more day of DNA?
    2. Judith F. Russell
    3. Maybe we should limit our general DNA discussions to correspondence between those who are interested? Let's have one more day (Wedsn, Sept 24) of general DNA discussion on the Bush River list. Thanks so much, JudyR

    09/24/2008 06:23:55
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. Wyatt, Susan D.
    3. Ancestry.com is having a special this month. You can go to www.Ancestry.com and you will see their advertisement for it, usually on the right side of the page. Sue Wyatt North Carolina -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of john kennedy Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 12:13 PM To: [email protected]; [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects re;DNA test. where is location to have test done?? john k ----- Original Message ----- From: "marsha moses" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects > I'll chime in here on the DNA projects....because I find them to be so > much fun. I did my mtDNA (mitochondrial----mother to children--that is > female line) in the early summer. It was very disappointing at first > for me. I don't know what I expected. But what you get is hundreds of > matches with such a variety of surnames that it is mind boggling. Then > I bought Bryan Sykes' The Seven Daughters of Eve. And now I am > absolutely fascinated! I descend from Helena. And now I am devouring > Bryan Sykes' book on the Y-DNA called Adam's Curse. Honestly, > run...don't walk to your local library or bookstore and get his books. > They are an extremely entertaining read....if you don't get hung up with > trying to understand every single detail. Then man is a scientist, but > he writes like a storyteller. Now, that said, I have to admit that I am > VERY interested in his subject matter. > > I have paid for many DNA participants for my various lines. I only wish > that I could find a few more before the sale ends on Sept 30th. I am > still working on a possible McKinsey for my Newberry County line. I > actually have someone who knows that they descend from my McKinsey line > who has cousins and uncles....but it is hard to convince someone not > interested in genealogy to take the test even when they are not paying. > Just thought that I would add my 2cents. marsha moses > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/24/2008 06:20:37
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects
    2. john kennedy
    3. re;DNA test. where is location to have test done?? john k ----- Original Message ----- From: "marsha moses" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 7:56 AM Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA projects > I'll chime in here on the DNA projects....because I find them to be so > much fun. I did my mtDNA (mitochondrial----mother to children--that is > female line) in the early summer. It was very disappointing at first > for me. I don't know what I expected. But what you get is hundreds of > matches with such a variety of surnames that it is mind boggling. Then > I bought Bryan Sykes' The Seven Daughters of Eve. And now I am > absolutely fascinated! I descend from Helena. And now I am devouring > Bryan Sykes' book on the Y-DNA called Adam's Curse. Honestly, > run...don't walk to your local library or bookstore and get his books. > They are an extremely entertaining read....if you don't get hung up with > trying to understand every single detail. Then man is a scientist, but > he writes like a storyteller. Now, that said, I have to admit that I am > VERY interested in his subject matter. > > I have paid for many DNA participants for my various lines. I only wish > that I could find a few more before the sale ends on Sept 30th. I am > still working on a possible McKinsey for my Newberry County line. I > actually have someone who knows that they descend from my McKinsey line > who has cousins and uncles....but it is hard to convince someone not > interested in genealogy to take the test even when they are not paying. > Just thought that I would add my 2cents. marsha moses > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    09/24/2008 05:13:27
    1. Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA tests & Quakers
    2. Wyatt, Susan D.
    3. If one obtains their DNA report from another source, are we able to donate the resulting information to the British Quakers DNA project? Thanks, Sue Wyatt ZC Sterling Cash Processing Dept Direct Dial (919) 297-3599 Fax (866)667-3450 -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Susan Rosine Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:03 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA tests & Quakers Hi Everyone, One of the purposes of the British Quakers DNA project is to gather all Quaker names together in one location. That way, instead of searching Ysearch (which I also like, by the way) and FTDNA's site by each of the surnames you are interested in, you can just go to the British Quakers DNA site. Of course, it is a relatively new project, so it will take time to add more names. But be sure and check it out! And more importantly, if you contact someone from one of the surname projects, please tell them to add themselves to the British Quaker DNA site (free to add yourself if you've already taken the test with FTDNA). As long as they've traced their Quaker line back to Colonial America or anywhere in the British Isles, they can join up. I also welcome Quaker surnames to add to the project list. My list is FAR FROM COMPLETE!!! So please check out the site: http://www.familytreedna.com/public/britishquakers Susan > Date: Tue, 23 Sep 2008 14:27:31 -0400 > From: "Vivian Markley" > Subject: [SC-BUSHRIVERQUAKERS] DNA tests > > If you want to see if there is a project on any of your family names there > are several places that you can research. > Familytreedna.com has a searchable database and sometimes the admin has > websites that you can contact for more information and results. > > I like Ysearch.org > http://www.ysearch.org/ > > You can just enter your surname and it will give you matches. Some people > put out their pedigree which really helps but there is usually an email > address for each record and some info on the most distance Patrilineal > ancestor. > > It is completely voluntary to put your results in this database, so most > people are very receptive to exchanging info with you. > > Vivian ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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