Food for thought- From: Don Nooner Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 1997 10:40 PM To: Don Sasser Subject: Re: De Sasseur / de DeNune from Scotland? Don, Thank you for responding...I felt so badly when I sent it, and it just came back. It is from the book,"REGISTER OF MARYLAND'S HERALDIC FAMILIES" period from 1634, March 25th to March 25th, 1935 by Alice Norris Parran, sponsored by the Southern Maryland Society Colonial Dames. "DENUNE: Ethel Denune, now, Mrs. Norville Finley Young. 1968 Denune Ave., Columbus, Ohio. (I won't go into lineage or registrants) The name, Denune was assumed by the proprietors of the land and barony of Denune in Argyleshire, Scotland, as early as names became hereditary in the country. The name is local and the first two letters probably had a prepositional or designative use before they, together with the place name, became a single word. Once the honor of knighthood had been conferred on a member of this family the name became 'de Denune'. In a charter of James, Lord High Steward of Scotland, confirming the donation of his predecessors to the monastery of Paisley the witness are Robert, Bishop of Glasgow; John, brother of the Lord High Steward; Sir Arthur de Denune, Sir Nicholas Campbell and Sir Reginald Crawford, Knights William de Schow, Alexander de Monneville, Esquire, Anno 1294. Douglass further states that members of this family have been free barons in different counties of Scotland for some centuries. Sir Arthur de Denune and Guy de Denune were among the barons of Scotland forced to swear fealty to King Edward 1st of England in 1296. The lands and castle of Denune through feud and throug intermarriage became at last the property of the family of Argyle, and when in 1594, a quarrel arose between brothers of the house of Argyle, Duncan the Governor and Donald his brother, settled in the north of Scotland, assuming their maternal name Denune and retaining their ancestral arms. From Duncan the Governor descends a line of Denunes, Barons of Cathole, men "of parts and learning." John Denune, 5th Baron of Cathole, a man of singular merit, a faithful and loyal subject of king Charles 1st, spent the greater part of his paternal estate in his Majesty's service and died without redress. Contemporary with Andrew, Baron of Cathole, son of Duncan the Governor, and also in the north country lived Sir David Denune, likewise possessed of considerable estate which appears by two charters under the great seal domina Willielmo de Denune of the lands and barony of Pittigothy, the village and lands of Pettnellsi Ballancouth, in the shires of Ross and Inverness, one charter dated 1538, another 1540. That commissions of the highest importance were entrusted to the loyalty and dependable judgment of members of the Denune family is evidenced by the following from Collens' Peerage of the English Vol. 8, pg. 388," Edward IIIrd, he with William de Denune were commissioned to treat at New Castle with Sir Robert de Loweden, Knight, and others deputed by the Scotch on such matters as then shall be offered by them: From such historical records we learn that the Denune family has long played an important part in the drama of our race and civilization. The old castle of Denune was of such antiquity that no date or period was ever assigned to its construction. the present castle was built by the late Duke of Argyle. (the rest is about the Denunes in America, Dr. William Denune, who was born in Scotland and received his education in Paris, France and came here to America, a Huguenot, who married Elizabeth Duvall, also a Huguenot, dau. of Maren Duvall, of the Marsh. It is very interesting, but I did not wish to bore you, but only to show that the DENUNE name, really did start with a DE., as the question was if the 'de Sasseur' could possibly be the origin of the name, determing nationality...as it does with our Nuners and Nooner families. We have not yet proved it, but it has many strong ties and facts that I believe we are on the verge of proving a name change in America) Hope this helps a little.. Let me know when you find out.. LaRee Nooner >dnooner@sisna.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- > ---------------- > > Yes I would like to have a copy > > dlsasser@msn.com >