Dear Earl and others, About the location of the family record at the end of the old Testamanet... actually, this is one of the most common locations for the family record sections. I searched for one particular bible for more than 25 years and when I finally located it, found that the first 30 pages or so had been lost. LUCKILY, that particular bible had a SECOND title page -- located between the old and new Testaments, where the family record pages were also. Had they been in the front, they would have been torn out also. The lady said she had no idea of what had happened to the missing pages. The title page showed it had been printed in 1815. The handwriting changed after the year 1820, when the ancestor died and his son and others assumed the task of entering info. Mama bought three huge, expensive bibles because she wanted "big" ones for family info. They were the large, fancy ones that folks display on their coffee tables. Mama ruined one that cost a fortune by putting obituaries, dried flowers from kinfolk's graves, hair clippings of the kids, news articles, wedding notices, etc. in it to the point it finally broke the back. Now the pages can come out. This is one of the primary causes of book bindings being broken on bibles--from folks putting their mementoes in them. The date of publication of a bible is one thing to always check on -- when a bible was printed. It will help you determine who might have done the writing initially. And if you find the title page has been lost, then check between the old and new Testaments and you might find a second one. Robert Earl