Glad some of you guys were able to get PAF 4.0, they are supposed to have it on CD's sometime next year, the program will still be free, but you have to pay for the S & H. I don't use it, but I had just purchased a copy of PAF 3.0, because some of you use it and to make sure that I can trade data with you, when we have info to exchange. I use Family Origins, but I do like the new PAF. I also have FTM 6.0, for the same reason, can't miss any chances. I only had a problem with one file, and that was with FTM, so I got a copy of that. Usually there is not any problem exchanging files with Gedcom, but some of us aren't as good with exchanging data, and you can be surprised with what you get sometime. It is very hard to be compatible with everyone, my wife continually reminds me of that.:>)-Bill