Hi, Bill I am a recent subscriber to this mail list. I caught your John SAPP line and was happy to see it. Betty Siros BURNS is my mother. I know a couple of additions to the bottom part of your list --- We had slightly differing dates -- generally indicating uncertainty, but a couple of different death dates. I imagine most of that data (for Forsyth B. Sapp's family) came from my mom. If you have different information, please let me know. Mostly I just have some ramblings and musings at the bottom of this. F. The wife of Forsyth B. SAPP (born 1811 in Burke Co., GA.) was Julia A. BRYANT. My mom had she was born in 1826-1830 in Lowndes Co., Al. and that she died in Montgomery Co., TX after 1890. ( I imagine your information for her was mainly from my mom - - I imagine the gedcom file could only tolerate one date, correct?) Forsyth B. SAPP and Julia A. BRYANT had the following children: 1. Forsyth Hartwell SAPP. I have a question about this one but I'll list it below. 2. Wyatt A. SAPP was born in 1846-7 in Muscogee Co., GA. He died in TX. (Montgomery County??) (again just a little more uncertainty in the date...likely location of death) Sarah A. FELKER (Sallie) was born 1850. Wyatt and Sallie were married 29 April, 1870 in Montgomery Co., TX. (Montgomery Co. TX Bk.2:229 ) She died in 1886/7 in Montgomery/Grimes Co. TX. (dates differed quite a bit here) He married again after she died, but I can't put my hands on the info right now. Wyatt A. SAPP and Sarah FELKER had the following children: a. Emma Julia SAPP. (Commonly went by Julia Emma SAPP) born 15 February, 1871 In Montgomery Co. TX She died 5 January, 1935 in Houston, TX. She married James Eugene SIROS/SIROT, born 20 December, 1859 in Houston ,TX. He died 24 August, 1937 in Houston, TX. They had 7 children. They divorced and she married two more times. b. Maud SAPP. (She went to Forsythe's second wedding as Maud SAPP --- so maybe she never married or married later. Like I said, I can't find the info right now). 13. Ella SAPP was born in 1867 in Montgomery Co., TX. (just included here because I mentioned her below) QUESTIONS & COMMENTS: 1. Do you know who Phillip F. SAPP is in 1830 Randolph Co. GA Census? 2. The searchable web site for the Confederate Pension list of the Texas State Archives has 2 applications for a Confederate pension in Texas for Hartwell Thomas SAPP -- one by himself (Pension Number: 26614) and one by Mrs. L. A. SAPP (listed as his wife). Her request lists two pension numbers (35939 presumably for her request, and the original one 26614) Both of these were for Harris county, Texas... presumably this is Madison and Martha's son -- 3. This Confederate Pension site also has the following - Ella Sapp as a Claimant for --- Husband: Forsyth H. SAPP in Mclennan Co. TX for Confederate Pension; Pension Number, 19950 -- Texas State Archives --- Since there are 2 Forsyth H. SAPPs... one the son of Madison and one the son of Forsyth B. above... Ideas? Ella is also supposed to be the name of the younger Forsyth's H. --(the one that's the son of Forsyth B.'s) -- youngest sister. ( There are other Sapps on that pension list as well. Maybe some from your list. ) Hope some of this helps. I'll be curious to hear what you or anyone thinks. Laurel Burns